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TheOcelot last won the day on April 14 2019

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  1. Just viewed Mania's topic on NeoGaf and read this post:

    "Remember all those people who make fun of Sonic Adventure for having Sonic with real people? Well, who's laughing now?"

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    1. azoo


      Death, he cometh.

    2. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      I mean in Mario we're supposed to laugh at how jarring it is.

      In Sonic we're supposed to take it seriously.

    3. Wraith


      I hate to say it's okay when Mario does it but it's okay when mario does it guys seriously he was playing jump rope with them and dancing to the jukebox it was so cute I 

    4. azoo


      tbh its part of one big dumb double standard. 

      let me tell you this, my dudes: if Sonic never had his 2003-2007 downward spiral, OVER HALF of the things people scapegoated onto the sonic series wouldn't even be issues. I swear this to you in complete earnest

    5. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      You're telling me it wouldn't be cute if Sonic played jump rope and danced to jukebox as well?

    6. Wraith


      It would have been if he had ever done those things instead of talking about military conspiracies with the president yeah

    7. azoo


      he did stuff of similar ilk in unleashed, and it definitely wouldn't have been out of place in the first sonic adventure either so

      yeah pretty much

    8. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @Azoo That is also true, it doesn't help that anything present in 06 became taboo for Sonic games, which sucks because 06 had elements that were part of Sonic's identity, albeit done wrong.

      And again, it doesn't help Mario makes it clear it's a different world and we're supposed to find it jarring, but Sonic tries to make us believe this cartoon hedgehog and his friends are ACTUALLY living in a real world styled planet with normal humans and we're not supposed to find anything weird about this.

    9. azoo


      I don't even think it's supposed to be seen as a different world. The game claims it takes place outside of the mushroom kingdom; but not that it's outside of Mario's planet. In fact, it goes right against that altogether because there's a world map.

      So yeah Mario lives in the same world as realistically proportioned humans. Is it weird? Hell yeah! But it's also supposed to be weird. According to Yuji Naka himself, Adventure was supposed to be a little strange at first because it was about Sonic and co leaving the islands and coming to the "mainland" where humans thrive and populate, so I find that to be very similar.

      I don't really want humans as realistic as Odyssey's in Sonic (I prefer them to either be like Unleashed's or slightly more anime esque), but I think this validates that there's nothing wrong with putting Sonic in those environments or around designs that intentionally look far removed from him. The only difference is that games like 06 did it in the absolute worst ways; in ways unbecoming of the regular Sonic cast.

      But yeah if it was always done like SA-era (though not continuously as over the top as SA2 lol) and in consistently good games, no one would even consider it an issue. Just like many things about this series.

    10. Wraith


      I'll be honest

      seeing that Mario game warmed me up to the concept immensely

      So maybe I am biased or something idk, or maybe I just needed to see it done really well

    11. azoo


      i feel like adventure 1 was an example of it being done really well





      ...by 1999 vidya standards lol

    12. Wraith


      There's nothing wrong with how SA1 did it but there's no denying the bad examples outnumbered the good ones. 

      I think instead of being bitter Sonic fans should be grateful Nintendo is selling people on this whole thing lol

    13. azoo


      I'm VERY grateful Mario Odyssey is doing what it is, because it's the Mario game of my dreams. It's literally doing EVERY SINGLE THING I wanted from a 3D Mario game. EVERYTHING AND I AM SO EXCITED AND HAPPY SDHJFHDSHJK

      but at the same time.. it's hard not to be salty that Sonic Team is getting their game played by Nintendo, and much better than they've done in over a decade. Kinda sad that the greatest 3D Sonic game in eons is a Mario game lmao.

    14. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      To be fair that's not something new.

      Remember, the best Sonic game on the Wii U is Super Smash Bros.

    15. azoo


      excuse me but you're wrong

      that OBVIOUSLY goes to Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed :v

    16. Wraith


      i heard the new Mario & Sonic is alright

    17. JosepHenry


      I prefer Mario in New York over SMB 3 Version 6.0 anyday. That applies to NSMB, NSMB2, SMR, 3D Land and 3D World.

      I prefer Mario in New York over SMB 3 Version 6.0 anyday. That applies to NSMB, NSMB2, SMR, 3D Land and 3D World.

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