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Someone asked the question; "Why isn't Angel Island floating Sonic Mania?"
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So Generations happened after S3&K in the classic timeline?
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It seems like it. So we have:
Sonic 1 > Sonic CD (?) > Sonic 2 > Sonic 3&K > Sonic Generations > Sonic Mania > Sonic ForcesAs far as CW's reasoning, I guess this affirms that the Phantom Ruby is a bit of a plothole scapegoat if something doesn't make immediate sense. Why is "X" like this, why are they suddenly here? Phantom Ruby doin' weird things.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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I'm certain this was explained before back around Mania's release, but here is a bit more in depth. It also does suggest that despite looking different from the rubies in Forces, this one is not native to the Classic dimension. Which now brings up the question on how it got there, which again could be handwaved by it being a tear in the space-time continuum thing.
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So basically....
Sonic Generations
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Sonic Mania Sonic 4
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Sonic Forces Sonic Adventure*deep sigh* cool
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What people forget is that Angel Island was grounded BEFORE the Master Emerald was taken in Sonic 3. The Japanese manual made quite clear that the force of the Death Egg landing on it sent the island down onto the surface of the ocean, this is what leads to Sonic and Tails exploring this new island that had appeared.
The Master Emerald DOES keep the island afloat but other forces of nature can overpower its energy and force Angel Island down. It needed both it and to be rid of Death Egg's weight to be airborne again.
The bigger question for me is where exactly is Sky Sanctuary located since it is airborne and separate from Angel Island in both cases it loses altitude.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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Sort of. Sonic Forces isn't really part of the "new classic" timeline, rather Classic Sonic crosses over into the Modern timeline again.
So it's more like:
ORIGINAL DIMENSION OTHER DIMENSION
Sonic 1 -> S3&K Sonic 1 -> S3&K
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Sonic 4 *Time Eater sends
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SA1 -> Colours Dimension*
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Sonic Generations (Takes place in Original Dimension)
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Lost World Sonic Mania
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Sonic Forces (Takes place in Original Dimension)
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IDW Comics TSR Encore Mode Sonic Mania Adventures
Yeah we got that nice bit of spin-off media at the end just to confuse things further - spin-off media that takes all the games before them as canon but is not actually canon to the games lol.
The key point is that in the original timeline, Sonic, Tails and Eggman were NOT whisked away by the Time Eater after S3&K, Eggman did not learn anything from his future self, and Sonic 4 was his next scheme after S3&K (well, and 3D/Chaotix/R).
In the other dimension, they ARE whisked away and Eggman learns from his future self, and during his change of plans, discovers the Phantom Ruby.The only thorny parts of this theory are hypothetical questions like "does the phantom ruby remain dormant in the original dimension somewhere?" and/or "Did events long before the franchise's beginning, such as the Space Colony ARK incident, still happen in the other dimension if everything else is exactly the same until the Generations whisk-away?"
Fortunately these questions have a couple of potential definitive answers:
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@JezMM I’d leave IDW out of it, personally. We’ve been getting implications that it’s past history is not 1:1 with the games.
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