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  1. Soooooooo, has your Mania hype worn off now? What would you like to see next (after Sonic Forces)?

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    2. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      Sonic Mania 2

      Sonic Mania should be at least a trilogy imo

    3. Pelvic WOO! engine

      Pelvic WOO! engine

      Speaking of mania 2, I'd like to see the guy that worked on the graphics for mania do something new to the sprites like in this style:59ce9b01274bc_imageproxy(13).thumb.png.59df452faf5deb2627fb413b11a7a8c0.png DJOBAoxVAAA06WB.thumb.png.c4bab175d97bc913b479f17a7ed5ffa2.png

      What's his name? This is not mine like totally not mine.

      I would nut a cold brick if this happened.59ce9bab1d9cd_imageproxy(11).thumb.png.ca6154965d374a9487b5fcf40a8827a0.png

    4. Mad Convoy

      Mad Convoy

      Lost interest in Mania the moment I realized it was more of the same Classic stuff I don't really like.

      Next game, I'd love to see Sonic Team not do the usual Sonic Team thing of ditching everything related to a heavily criticized game. Instead, try to learn from Forces's, Lost World's, etc. mistakes and do better next time. I swear, all Sonic games have at least some good ideas that can be built off of! That and what I don't want to see is Sonic Team just removing the boosters and springs in the next title but barely if at all improving the physics and level design problems.

      As for spinoffs, I would quite like a game in the vein of Sonic R. I'm surprised that a franchise like Sonic (whose main character's gimmick is running fast) doesn't have a lot of on foot racing game.

    5. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      I pretty much agree entirely with Mad Convoy, McGroose, Bobnik and Hyper King Heavy.

    6. goku262002


      mania 2, but I don't want it for awhile. thats what got us burned out on classic in the 90s, too many of the games being back to back. from 1991 to 1994 sonic's 1-3 and knuckles plus scd all came out. no wonder why people got burned out.

    7. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      People got burned out...? Those games all sold and reviewed really well.

    8. Strickerx5


      Yeah, it wore off for me the week it came out honestly. Once I got all the medals and mastered the special stages... I didn't really have a reasons to go back.

      After Forces, I'd like the series to move forward in a number of ways. I'd like a Mania 2 to come and make host to a new spin off series of classic themed games for those who love that stuff and I want ST to really analyze Forces, take what worked, leave what didn't, and move on from it. If they want to continue with the boost (which I'd absolutely be down for), I hope they go back to the designs Unleashed and Generations had and not Colors. Then I'd want them to stick to that one gameplay style and incorporate other characters into it. I personally don't give a fuck how short the game ends up being because of it. Plus, add some proper online play and drop the damn wisp.

      If they want to drop the boost, then most of what I said still applies but they better make what comes next at least interesting and not just a slightly faster Mario. Level design is important but this series, from its inception, sold itself partly on spectacle. It'd be a damn shame to lose that now with the tech we're getting.

      also, give me my fucking pc port of unleashed already. damn

    9. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Forces 2: Infinite's revenge

      In seriousness, what Waveshock said, I don't want a "good" Sonic game, I want a fun one.

      That's what matters to me most.

      I would say the obvious and hope for a 3D Adventure styled game but I'm not getting my hopes up for that.

      It's too early for a Mania 2 but there was another game like it, I'd rather it'd be a Modern Advance version of it to those who've grew up with those games like me.

      Whatever ST makes will be "good" in my book as long as it's fun, playable, has good content, and gives more emphasis on 3D than 2D.

    10. McGroose


      Forces is currently my favorite Sonic game for taking everything that worked from the franchise before and just making it 10X better. Thinking of a Mania 2 that's all original just makes my mouth drool.

    11. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      The 3D Sonic game that I truly want is too far removed from how Sonic Team operates and what the fanbase seems to want so I've kiiinda given up on 3D Sonic for the time being. I'll always be interested in what they have to show but I haven't been excited since 2011-ish

    12. Milo


      2D Sonic: I'm fine with Taxman and co. taking the next three to five years taking a break and then getting the band back together for another Genesis Sonic game. Preferably one that's light on recycled content.

      3D Sonic: I'd like to see a 3D Sonic made by almost any studio/division/group not called Sonic Team. There's tons of things I'd like to see for a new Sonic game, but if it's Sonic Team making it I know I'd be wasting my time in hoping it will have anything I'd like to see from it, let alone turn out good.

    13. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      @Josh I agree. The sort of 3D Sonic game that I want to see doesn't seem to be the sort of Sonic game that SEGA wants to make anymore. The closest they came to it in the past ten years was Lost World, and they did a really bad job of it. After that failed, they went straight back to the least bad thing they did, which was to redo Generations but with added horrible fan characters. Sadly, 3D Sonic isn't even exciting at the moment. Lost World was something new, but Forces categorically isn't. I kind of miss the spin-offs and side titles (everything from Advance to Rush to Rivals to Riders to the storybooks) that game me new things to look forward to, even if a lot of them were of questionable quality.

    14. Diogenes


      i'm still loving mania, and I'd love to see a sequel announced (made by the same team, of course)

      as for 3d games, I'm waiting on the next demo for Utopia. and any other fan games that look worthwhile i guess. fuck forces and whatever sonic team does next.

    15. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      I mean, I like the boost games, but I don't really have any desire for more of that. If that's what they want to do, that's fine and all and I'm glad they found something people. There's just not gonna be much in it for me.

    16. ThePrinceOfSaiyans


      Yeah, I'd say it's worn off by now. As for what I'd like to see next, a fully 3D game, god dammit. I'm so tired of the 2D. Just design the levels with the boost in mind as opposed to designing the levels around the boost. That'll cut down on stage length, which is why the Boost games have to rely on crutches like the Werehog, 2D, Wisps, and Classic Sonic.

    17. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Oh wait, Hyper King said that, not Waveshocker, my bad lol.

    18. Kiah


      My hype for Sonic Mania hasn't waned in the slightest. It's just too good and this is coming from someone that isn't big on the Classic Sonic games. 

      As for what I want to see next, while I'm all for a Sonic Mania 2, I want to see Sonic Team put a together a game that isn't a convoluted mess and has evident effort and dedication with it that is of course satisfying and fun to play and doesn't have me questioning if I got my money's worth out of it or not. 

    19. Milo


      e: Just remembered, I was actually planning to post a thread about this very topic. I have some of it written, but I've been sitting on it since earlier this week.

    20. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      Can I get another Sonic and Sega racing game? Please? Those games were stupid fun.

    21. McGroose


      I'd like to apologize for the worst type of my life when I said that "Forces is currently my favorite Sonic game". I meant Mania. Holy shit that doesn't even make sense.

    22. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      I was a little confused but I was like "you do you man" LOL

    23. McGroose


      Ya, I want Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed Beyond Uber Edition

    24. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      @McGroose Oh.......well that makes sense.

      Eh, it's still the best Boost game to me so far.

    25. TCB


      I've been burnt out like, after a week.

      Other games held my interest far better.

      As for what I want I don't even know anymore I guess something that will keep my attentand enjoyment longer idk.

    26. The Master

      The Master

      Got bored of it after a week. Certainly didn't live up to the hype for me sadly. No idea what I want next.

  2. Games like SA & SA2 have some memorable dialogue between characters. Can you name some memorable dialogue in the more recent games?

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    2. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      "I think that's the wrong chip."


      Mike Pollock's delivery of the "really" line is fantastic.

    3. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      @Vertekins Really, that's what I'd say about the lines from the pre-Unleashed era.

    4. FriendBot


      Mike Pollock in general is fantastic!

    5. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      Speaking of Unleashed, there are very few good lines in that game. I remember Eggman calling Sonic festive, the bit where Sonic goes "lets get moving" because it reminded me of that infamous 06 line, and Sonic's abysmal "do I need a reason to help out a friend?" line which is awful. In fact, Sonic and Chip being all gushy "best mates omg friendddd" after 2 seconds is cringey all round.

    6. Dr. Crusher

      Dr. Crusher

      To be fair, roughly half or more of the lines in the older games are also memorable for the wrong reasons. Practically half of the whole scripts in the games are memes at this point.

    7. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      @Semi-colon e I have to disagree, I honestly think that's one of the sweetest lines in the series, and Sonic and Chip's friendship is just really heartwarming all around.

    8. FriendBot


      Yeah, I'm with HE. That moment was just a very sweet moment for the two, it just shows that outside of the cool guy and 90s edge, Sonic is a very caring and is pretty selfless.

    9. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      Sonic and Chip just become besties out of nowhere though. And the whole "high five after everything and giggle like schoolgirls" thing was also shit. I cringe every time I see those segments.

      I mean, the parts where they interact trying to figure out what's going on or when Chip notices that Sonic is bummed out by being not recognised by Amy are good, but the overly cheesy friendship thing doesn't gel well with me.

    10. Rey Skywalker-Ren

      Rey Skywalker-Ren

      it's no use

    11. Briraka


      "You can never have too many rings!"

    12. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      @Semi-colon e They didn't become "besties" right away, though. Sonic was just being kind and helpful, like he is supposed to be. Their friendship developed over the course of the game.

    13. TheOcelot


      Can't think of any memorable dialogue from Rise of Lyric.

    14. Vertekins


      Pre-Unleashed and Black Kniht had instances of terrible dialogue, of course. But a lot of better lines from that era were pretty much exactly what I expect the characters to say. The vast majority of post-Colours dialogue is just inane, annoying uncharacteristic tosh and a lot of the time I don't feel as if I'm listening to Sonic and Tails.

    15. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      What I mean is, okay, Sonic and Chip didn't go through the traditional Pixar/Dreamworks "they don't get along at first but become close over the course of the story" development, but it's not like they acted like they'd been friends forever right after having met, and, by the end of the game, you can tell they'd been through a lot together.

    16. Rey Skywalker-Ren

      Rey Skywalker-Ren

      @BenderBR I'm a snake, snakes dont have butts

    17. FriendBot


      Hey Amy! There IS a hammer bigger than yours!

      It's not the size that matter, it's how you swing it, care to find out?

      itznawtdehsizethatmatterssitssjkdksdhsajdajdjakjd yeah, yeah whatever.

    18. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      I don't mind them getting on well at first, it's just it comes across as forced. They feel unnaturally close instantly, and Tails barely exists in the game either except as transport.

    19. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      Rise of Lyric is full of great lines, honestly, and not just of the memetic variety.

    20. FriendBot


      Mik, that's from Shattered Crystal. AND GET SOME REST DAMMIT HOLY SHIT!

    21. Briraka
    22. Dr. Crusher

      Dr. Crusher

      @Vertekins: The characters have been so inconsistent throughout the years that practically anything and everything will count as uncharacteristic to one person or another person by this point.

    23. FriendBot


      There's no denying that Unleashed's story could've benefit greatly with fleshing out its world a lot more but I still find it a nice story just very underdeveloped.

    24. Hyper Enesephus

      Hyper Enesephus

      @Semi-colon e Well, Sonic and Tails' established friendship wasn't really the point of the story, it was Sonic and Chip's developing friendship. Anyway, right after Unleashed, we got Colors, which featured lots of Sonic and Tails' wonderful bromance.

      Okay, I realize not everyone likes the writing in Colors, but you know what I mean, it's still a whole game of Sonic and Tails interacting and acting like friends.

    25. Rey Skywalker-Ren

      Rey Skywalker-Ren

      i do like "a hedgehog's gotta do what a hedgehog's gotta do".

    26. WakanoBaka


      "So you say, if the world chooses to become my enemy, I will fight like I always have!" - Shadow The Hedgehog(Sonic 06)

      "My third wish! Erazor Djinn, you shall live out the rest of your days trapped inside your lamp as you were in days of old!" - Sonic The Hedgehog(Sonic TSRS)


      "If this is your world, then it's a world that I don't want any part of!" - Darkspine Sonic I


      "It was never about chivalry with me, I just gotta do what I gotta do!" - Sonic SnBK


      Now if you mean anything after Unleashed, go luck with that.


  3. SEGA has Sonic, Nintendo has Mario.What is Sony and Microsoft's offiicial mascots?

    1. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Sackboy and Master Chief, I guess

    2. -Robin-


      Master Chief for MS. Blu-Ray logo for Sony.

    3. FourCartridge


      Toro for Sony, MC for MS.

    4. FourCartridge


      Drake/Sackboy MAY be poised to take that though.

    5. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      Eddie Riggs and Eddie Riggs.

    6. Crash


      Generic Space Guy for Microsoft and Furry Animal for Sony.

    7. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      In a perfect world, Spyro for Sony.

    8. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      Seriously though, video games are a minuscule part of both companies and you can understand why they wouldn't pick a game character to be their official mascot.

    9. Crash


      @Homem - Nah, Crash.

    10. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      Why not both?

      (oh and Crash, Halo is anything but generic. It's one of the most lore-intensive, creative IPs of today)

    11. Tracker_TD


      Microsoft almost got a mascot for the original Xbox - to design him, they brought in a man called Naoto Ōshima - you MAY have heard of him. :P

    12. KHCast


      Microsofts gaming division seems like a pretty big deal for them homem.

    13. Tracker_TD


      ...unlike Naoto Ōshima's other mascot creation, however, Blinx the Time Sweeper failed miserably.

    14. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      Kratos and DRM

    15. Crash


      @Homem - I said nothing about the gameplay. Master Cheif just looks like any other space man.

    16. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      @Xehanort: Ha, it really isn't, compared to the rest. It's certainly large, I don't doubt that, but you underestimate how much of a massive company they are. Same for Sony.

    17. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      @Crash: Ah, sure.

    18. Jetronic


      hopes and dreams

    19. KHCast


      Eliminating microsofts or Sony's game division wouldn't cause a dent is what you're saying?

    20. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      Playstation is one of the only Sony divisions that's actually doing well at the moment. Not sure about Microsoft.

    21. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      That's quite obviously not what I'm saying. You can't eliminate a section of a corporation without causing a dent. What I'm saying is that, when you see their entire size, and compare it to the size of their gaming subsidiary, you would understand why they wouldn't associate the whole company with the mascot of a game character, because it would look like their primary section is video games - which it's not.

    22. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      @Chili: Correct; both of them are doing very well at the time.

    23. KHCast


      Well then the mascot of the game division would be....?

    24. Dr. Homem

      Dr. Homem

      That's the point. You wouldn't give a mascot the the gaming division to avoid associating it with the whole company. Simple as that.

  4. Which Sonic games deserve the title of being a 'bad' game?

    1. Senator NinjaShark

      Senator NinjaShark

      your favourite sonic game

    2. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      a good chunk of the 3d ones

    3. Spin Attaxx

      Spin Attaxx

      Aside from the obvious ones, Sonic Blast?

    4. Enderwoman


      shadow and 06 and secret rings and black knight

    5. Alexander


      It would be easier to list the ones that are considered good

    6. Spinneret


      Sonic Colors, and Sonic Unleashed.

    7. TheOcelot


      I wouldn't class Sonic 4 Ep2 as a bad game.

    8. Komodin


      Sonic '06.

      Shadow the Hedgehog.

      Sonic Labyrinth.

      Sonic Blast.

      Sonic Chronicles.

      That's it for me.

    9. Tornado


      Sonic sucks.

    10. Vertekins


      '06, Shadow, Spinball, CHRONICLES, G-Sonic.

    11. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      SA2, Shadow, 06, Unleashed and Labrynth.

    12. spinny


      SA2, 06 and Secret Rings for me.

    13. Abominal SnowTaz

      Abominal SnowTaz

      D. All of the Above?

    14. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      Oh and Secret Rings

    15. -Ace-


      Why has anyone answered this yet WTF iz a Sonic

    16. Soniman


      Unleashed, Unleashed, Unleashed, Unleashed, and Unleashed

    17. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      You forgot Unleashed

    18. Komodin


      Oh, I almost forgot:

      Sonic Colors

    19. Place


      Game.com Sonic Jam, 06, Chronicles, S4: E1

    20. spinny


      Oh yeah, I forgot. Episode I as well for me.

    21. Solkia


      all of them circa 1996 - present

    22. Enderwoman



    23. Aero


      sonics schoolhouse

  5. Reaction: You lose a bet and must not play any Sonic game for a whole year.

    1. Senator NinjaShark
    2. Soniman


      How is that a loss?

    3. Diz


      Plays them anyway. XD

    4. Ferno


      >literally hasn't played a console sonic game in over a year since my 360 is in storage in another state and all i've had has been my 3DS...with no gaems pretty much

    5. XD375
    6. Nepenthe
    7. buba


      Like I have been doing for years now?

    8. Jack / Joker

      Jack / Joker

      ... I last played a Sonic game 11 months ago.

    9. Nix
    10. Doc



      I'll play Mario instead :P

      But I would struggle

    11. Legosi (Tani Coyote)

      Legosi (Tani Coyote)

      I HAVE LOST MY WILL TO LI- *plays Ratchet and Clank instead*

    12. Place


      love sonic? who cares

    13. Soniman


      I don't know wether these comments are funny or really depressing

    14. WarioBone


      I haven't played Sonic (besides the few days I played SLW) since Generations release.

      I'll be okay.

    15. Wrapped in Black
    16. -Ace-


      this is kinda sad lol

    17. Doc


      It's weird for a person to be on a sonic forum and not play sonic in a few months, nevermind a whole year, or even more!

    18. Doc


      I mean if people said that they wouldn't mind and play other games, then I wouldn't be so shocked.

    19. Ferno


      this has pretty much been the suckiest move ever for me yeah. longest "two weeks" ever

    20. KHCast


      I already haven't played sonic all that much recently. And I'm gonna be leaving for 2 years next year.....so yeah I'll be fine.:P

    21. super saiyan weegee

      super saiyan weegee

      That would be quite a let down.

  6. What in your opinion is the worst 2d Sonic soundtrack?

    1. Gregzilla


      Probably one of the Game Gear titles.

      If we're talkin' consoles, then CD US, but that was still good.

    2. Nix


      Sonic CD US. Can't stand it.

    3. Urban Flow

      Urban Flow

      None, they are all epic

    4. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      Does Rivals count?

    5. Jix Hedgehog

      Jix Hedgehog

      Agree with Greg, the US CD tracks were really uninspiring. The only track worth mentioning is one of the Tidal Tempests ones

    6. Chili Dawg
    7. Pixel Brain

      Pixel Brain

      The original's. It wasn't bad, just weak.

    8. Rinzler
    9. Celestia


      Everyone has forgotten Sonic 4 apparently.

    10. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      @ eoc: And you just had to go and remind us of it...

    11. Blue Wisp

      Blue Wisp

      Sonic CD




    12. Celestia


      I actually don't mind S4's soundtrack too much but I'm so used to people hating it that I was shocked it didn't come up within the first four comments on this status. XP

    13. Jix Hedgehog

      Jix Hedgehog

      I enjoyed the Ep1 soundtrack.. Sounded very retro-ish and it fit the stages well. . the special stage music thou.....seemed to go on and on

    14. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      Probably Ep1 I guess.

    15. goku262002


      Are you guys honestly forgetting the worst sonic soundtrack of all time?!

    16. KrazyBean


      Nobody said Sonic Rush? ...Good.

    17. Carbo


      Sonic Rush

    18. sonfan1984


      does Chronicles counts?

    19. KrazyBean



    20. TheOcelot


      Sonic 4 Ep3.

    21. SuperLink
  7. Whilst Mania/Mania Plus is a great game, what improvements would you like to see if Team Mania/Evening Star made another new 2d game?

    1. PC the Hedgehog

      PC the Hedgehog

      All new levels. All of them.

    2. Patticus


      A better balance of new and old levels, not just in numbers of each but also their placement in the level order.

    3. Sean


      I actually wouldn't mind more old levels in the new game but I would like the ratio to be reversed. 3 new levels for every 1 old level would be the sweet spot for me.

      Other than that I'd like playable Amy and Metal. Having more levels means that there will be more creative level gimmicks to make so I'm not worried about the gameplay itself growing stale

    4. Forte-Metallix


      More character-specific areas. Give Tails, Mighty, and Ray their own routes, Acts- heck, maybe even exclusive bosses.

    5. Patticus


      @Forte-Metallix Mania did that, but at times it didn't feel like the alt routes were divergent or numerous enough (mainly the new levels, I think). Other times, though, it felt like there were so many different ways to go. So, yeah, I'd really like that to be expanded upon a bit more. Good shout, my dude!


    6. Diogenes


      no lives system, per-act saves and level select, a bit more storytelling (and a more coherent story, though i think that'd come naturally as long as it's not trying to be another nostalgic retread of existing levels), playable amy and maybe metal sonic, let players pair any two characters rather than just sonic and tails (at least as an unlockable, if they don't want it to interfere with the story) and switch between them as in encore mode, put the super sonic music toggle in the options menu rather than hidden behind a cheat code, if you could still unlock the instashield and peel out make them separate toggles rather than having to pick only one special move, and smooth out tails and knuckles' special abilities so they play more fluidly.

    7. JosepHenry


      All new levels, at the cost for fewer of them, like 6 in total. 

      All characters back, Amy as newcomer and Honey cameo.

      Hooligans as recurring bosses using Eggman's robots.

      Return of Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles.

      A change of scenario like SA2 to Sonic and Tails, Mighty and Ray, and Knuckles and Amy. Or the same classic playthrough of each but with some levels swapped around.

    8. Strickerx5


      90% new levels (possibly 1 returning stage for #nostalgia sakes).

      New moves/ utilizing other moves from across the series like a wall jump.

      Give it an actual narrative.

      Get rid of the time limit.

      Add in Amy.

      Online multiplayer.


      And I'd like a new art-style that give the game a better sense of flare and visually removes itself from simply being a classic 90s game but that shit is subjective. I also don't really mind the sprites due to how good they're often animated so meh, whatever I guess.

    9. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      I think the level design is top notch with the approach they take now. Can't think of any real complaints there except maybe avoid bits like the tornado next time.

      I thought the bosses were a bit lacking. It felt like they wore themselves a little thin trying to make so many. I think I'd be okay with one Boss per zone instead of one per act. 

      I also want an entirely new set of levels. I'd accept a game that has more returning levels but I'd prefer a new set.

      If they plan on introducing a couple of new characters to play with Amy is the obvious choice but I'd like the Chaotix too. 

      The last thing I want is for them to reign in the self referential aspect and the comedy and make a game that's more akin to Sonic CD in atmosphere. This isn't the biggest deal overall but it's something I'd like to see. 

    10. Sonictrainer


      Plot Idea: After the ending of Encore Mode, peace returned to Sonic's world for sometime.

      However, one day, portals started appearing around the world and armies of Badniks (or specifically Egg Robos) would come through them, attack areas, and capture animals around the world.

      Our heroes realize that the Phantom Ruby created an alternate dimension, where Eggman was able to create his own planet, with each region ruled by a member of the Phantom Royals, stronger, tougher, and crazier versions of the HBH.

      Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Mighty, Ray, and newcomers, Amy & Honey, join forces to stop Eggman, the Phantom Royals, and figure out a solution to take care of the Phantom Ruby.

    11. JosepHenry


      @Wraithsorry to say that but... The Chaotix are Modern exclusive now accoring to the two dimension crap.

    12. Ferno


      More expansions to the moveset like the Drop Dash

    13. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      The chaotix being modern exclusive is one of those things I feel like they wouldn't commit that hard to if the concept was fun enough.

    14. Diogenes


      let the drop dash climb walls

    15. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      Another thing I'd like to see is some kind of collectable that gave us neat little bonuses like concept art or something. If Lives are going I want something tangible to replace them and incentive exploring.

    16. JosepHenry


      Oh yeah, I would love that, like Unleashed's records. Concept art, music, "lore" and even character bios.

    17. Sonictrainer


      Yeah, maybe something like a museum?

    18. JosepHenry


      Yeah a museum side thing which you can complete by finding those things on levels.

    19. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      Give it a record player and some of that melancholy music that was all over the Sonic collections for some reason and you got yourself a winner. 

    20. Ferno


      Mega Collection's main theme and menu themes sound like what nostalgia feels like, and I'm not sure how they pulled that off

    21. Adamabba


      A cool new setting like Angel Island, and a better story

      All new levels

      Brand new artstyle

      I'd like it to be more like CD in atmosphere too

      Maybe a new gameplay mechanic that shakes things up a bit

  8. Here's a fun question. How long have you been a member on SSMB?

    1. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      Too many years to count.

    2. TheOcelot


      1 year and 3 months.

    3. azoo


      2005. *explosions*

    4. Jango



    5. azoo


      No wait, 2003. Started posting in 2005 though.

    6. GEO1452


      A few months

    7. Detective Shadzter

      Detective Shadzter

      Can't remember XD Several years at least. I was visiting TSS a for a while before I joined SSMB, too.

    8. Chaos Warp

      Chaos Warp

      Been here since June 8th 2011, so almost 2 years

    9. NGw00d


      Just reached a year about a month ago.

    10. spinny


      Totally not only 3 months.

      I was browsing around here as early as 2011, though.

    11. Speederino


      A little over three years now.

    12. Phantomime


      I've been lurking since 2009, and made this account in... early 2011? I think.

    13. Semi-colon e

      Semi-colon e

      Maybe late 2008? I don't recall being active until 2011 though.

    14. SkyLlama


      Several months, after someone on ASRT told me of this place's existence.

    15. Chooch


      Since Sonic Heroes was relevant.

    16. Space☆Tomoki


      About 2 years. I joined during the hype for Generations.

    17. Klinsy


      Since late 2011.

    18. Dr. Crusher

      Dr. Crusher

      Three years, five months (including this May).

    19. #AR


      A little over a year.

    20. Ichigo Storm

      Ichigo Storm

      Visiting since 05 member since 06

    21. \gunther
  9. Who here owns more than two Wii U games? SLW & 3d World are my only Wii U games (I also have 3 Wii games).

    1. WhoWhatMan


      I got Wind Waker and Lost World.

    2. Biggs


      Currently have NSMBU, SLW, Legends, SM3DW, Arkham Origins and ASRT.

      It's got some pretty good platformers if I say so myself.

    3. Thigolf


      I own Tekken, SLW, 3d World, W101, Rayman Legends and Racing Transformed.

    4. Dejimon11


      Does new super luigi u count?

    5. Biggs


      ^I'd say so

    6. Speederino


      Wind Waker, Lost World, 3D World, Assassins Creed IV. And there's definitely more coming out this year that I'm interested in.

    7. Enderwoman


      I got Rayman Legends, LW, Nintendoland, 3D World, W101, Wind Waker HD, SASRT, NSMBU and Pikmin 3.

    8. Detective Shadzter

      Detective Shadzter

      I have Wind Waker (came with the system), Sonic Lost World, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Super Mario 3D World.

    9. Conando


      I have 3D World, Sanic, Nintendo Land, Scribblenauts Unmasked, Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate, NSMB U, Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends, LEGO City, SASRT, Wind Waker HD, and probably more but I can't remember.

    10. Marcello


      I have NSMBU, Nintendoland, SASASRT, Wind Waker, Lost World and 3D World.

    11. Conando


      Oh right, I also have the Wonderful 101.

    12. Octarine


      Mario 3D World, The Wind Waker, The Wonderful 101, Tekken Tag 2... oh, I guess that's it.

    13. Octarine


      Oh, and NSMBU. Duh.

    14. Sixth-Rate Soma

      Sixth-Rate Soma

      I think we've got four now

    15. YoshiUnity


      SASRT, Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate, ZombiU, Wonderful 101, Nintendoland and Super Mario 3D World. I also have DuckTales: Remastered, Art Academy and Dr. Luigi downloaded.

    16. Kiah


      I have SLW, Nintendoland and another game that came with the console that I don't recall what the title is as I'm not interested in playing it. It have a ton of Wii games though : )

    17. Doctor MK

      Doctor MK

      NintendoLand, NSMBU, NSLU, 3D World, ASR Transformed, Sonic Lost World, Scribblenauts Unlimited, Wind Waker HD, Wonderful 101

    18. Doctor MK

      Doctor MK

      Oh and Rayman Legends

    19. KrazyBean


      SLW, 3D World, Wonderful 101 & Wind Waker HD.

    20. TheOcelot


      Oh yeah I forgot. I also have Wind Waker HD. It came with the console.

    21. Mr Loopone

      Mr Loopone

      Let's see: NSMBU, NSLU, Super Mario 3D World, Sonic Lost World, Deus Ex: Human Revolution DC, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Mario & Sonic and the pack in Nintendo Land. Oh two eShop games and some Wii games.

  10. What is your member number? Mine is 3991.

  11. How about the Sonic Remastered trilogy: 1, 2 & CD with modern graphics. Oh yes. 

    1. Nepenthe
    2. Wrapped in Black
    3. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      where is sonic 3 & knuckles

    4. Shikushi


      That'd be cool but I think 3&K should be there too

    5. Forte-Metallix


      What about Tails Adventure and Knuckles Chaotix?

    6. Celestia


      I assume 3&K isn't here for the same reason(s) there still isn't a Taxman remaster.

    7. Indigo Rush
    8. TheOcelot
    9. Diogenes


      how about new games instead

      I'm tired of remakes

    10. Monkey Destruction Switch

      Monkey Destruction Switch

      Why bother? The games still look good today. It's not a bad idea exactly but it feels a bit pointless.

    11. FriendBot



    12. Wrapped in Black

      Wrapped in Black

      They'd honestly only lose charm if they weren't sprite based unless you had some Rayman Origins tier shit going on for the art

    13. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      remaster S3K ala the current mobile remasters and compile it with 1,2 CD into a Platinum Hits collection, homogenize the GUI, release it on everything and call it Bob.

      oh and add a nes remix mode because fffffffffffffff

    14. Celestia


      I'm not sure why they'd call it Bob

      Is that an acronym for something

    15. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Bob is shorthand for 'celestia is cute pls dont ban'

    16. FriendBot



      because it says right here, that Bob is short for "Celestia is trash plz ban me"

    17. Celestia


      I am cute, thank you.

      *bans Indigo*

    18. Indigo Rush
    19. TheOcelot


      @Indigo Rush

      Coming in Christmas 2017; The Sonic Mania Collection feature Sonic 1, 2, CD remasters & Sonic Mania.


      I really think SEGA might do this.

    20. Celestia


      I hope I never learn the context of that image.

    21. TheOcelot
  12. With all the apparent legal-issues regarding the soundtrack it's satisfying seeing 3&K tracks getting remixed.

    If you include the 3&K tracks from Mania, SEGA have clearly avoided remixing any tracks (which the fanbase firmly believes) have legal issues, such as; Carnival Night, Ice Cap & Launch Base, and seems more than happy to allow remixes of the "safe" tracks. 

    Because SEGA are so willing to allow remixs of the 3&K, it gives me the impression that a re-release of 3&K would be possible if they just replace the dispute tracks with new music. If this wasn't the case then surely SEGA wouldn't allow tracks like Angel Island, Hydrocity, Flying Battery and Sandopolis to be remixed. 


    1. Polkadi~☆


      Introduce yourself to Sonic 3 PC, an offical release by SEGA which has all the "legal issues" tracks all replaced by new music.

    2. Forte-Metallix


      They could use the Lego Dimensions versions of Carnival Night and Ice Cap:


    3. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      They've been making remixes of Sonic 3 tracks for yonks, in case people have forgotten the Angel Island remix from Brawl. If they haven't resolved the issue in ten years, it's more complex than a simple replacement. 

    4. TheOcelot


      The PC & Lego Dimensions tracks for CN & IC may be less than stellar, but if their inclusion would allow for a new release of the game, then I'd be happy.

    5. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Angel Island, Hydrocity and Marble Garden in particular are not under any legal dispute, and are fair game for remixing and reuse. Carnival Night, Ice Cap and Launch Base are the tracks in question. They are the three main level themes that were replaced in the PC version, and are levels that have yet to see a proper remix in an official Sonic game; in fact, the only level themes ever re-used are Angel Island and Hydrocity. No one likes Marble Garden for some reason, but it had that "TARGET" remix in Generations, at least. 


    6. superman43


      For the same reason no one likes Marble Garden, no one likes Marble Zone, Aquatic Ruin or (up to this point) no one liked Sandopolis, from SEGA. It seems like they don´t wanna touch the "ancient" theme much.

      Seriously, where was a time that an ancient theme was used and was not a remixed zone ? Sonic Heroes ? (I don´t count Unleashed, if anyone says that)

    7. Patticus


      S3&K with new music isn't S3&K. It's just not the same game I grew up loving.

    8. Mr Loopone

      Mr Loopone

      If it is to do with the music it might not be as simple as we think. The Sonic 3&K PC release probably lost its source code and I can't see Sega doing a blooming MIDI emulator/player for one game. While Sega does still have the original source code for 3&K or at least in Yuji Naka's hands, they would have to reprogram the music and I think only M2 have the capability to do that since Yuji Naka didn't handle the sound engine (it was an altered one of the standard Sega Z80 I believe) and most of the old sound team left. Taxman version would have been option 3 of course.

      It might even be Sega policy to only release the game as least altered as they can. It is easier to change a sprite or a texture like what happened to Out Run, Shenmue collection and the Yakuza 4 PS4 remaster but harder to change the music especially one that takes a 1/4 of the game. Probably had it been one track like what happened to the Taxman version of Sonic CD, it might have been different.

      Besides what other legal issue could there be?

    9. Polkadi~☆


      There’s also the credits music that has to get replaced.

      Who would’ve thought the song would be the demo to a Michael Jackson song that came out about a year later?

    10. Dejimon11


      Just replace Ice Cap Zones music with the one from SA1 

    11. Patticus


      Y'all are advocating for the replacement of iconic music with... well, stuff that just isn't.

      What the hell is going on here.

    12. Forte-Metallix



      If that's the price we gotta pay to get a proper remake, then it's best to just cut our losses.

    13. Patticus


      That cannot possibly be their only option. No way.

    14. TheOcelot



      The reality is that 3&K will never be released again in it's original state. 

      Something has got to change, and it's gonna have to be the music.

      Yes 3&K's soundtrack is amazing, iconic, but if the game is never going to be re-released again then I would accept changes to the music to allow for a new release. What about hiring Tee Lopes to do replacement music? I know he'd do it justice.


      I can't stand this "if they're gonna change music then I don't want the game released" attitude from some of the fanbase, which helps no one.

    15. Patticus


      Why can Sega not just pay for the music?

    16. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      I don't think they see a net profit in ponying up to Michael Jackson's estate for a Sega Genesis port.

    17. Patticus


      So they'd rather ruin a childhood classic instead. Great.

    18. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      That's business. They ultimately care more about their bottom line. 

    19. Dejimon11


      @Indigo Rush Thank you. This is pretty much what I tell my friends every time they keep saying "why can't they just pay for it?" the games won't sell enough to justify it. 

    20. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      My suggested compromise is to make new compositions for the problematic tracks, but add a feature to replace any track you want with a custom mp3 or ogg file. You could swap the BGM with whatever you want, including the original tracks.

      Also, PC mods. 

    21. Patticus


      Fair enough, but I listened to the PC version of 3's replacement music. Plinky plonky generic chip-tune garbage. I wouldn't pay for more of that, so if they do insist on replacing those tracks, it needs to be in just the same style as the originals (Jackson-esque, pretty much) and it needs to be every bit as good.

      I'm not spending money on what, for me, is a nostalgia trip, if they're going to disrespect that for the sake of $$$.

  13. Sonic Unleashed is a........................

    1. spinny


      Decent game.

    2. #AR


      Polarizing game.

    3. Kamakai


      Good game.

    4. super saiyan weegee
    5. Nepenthe


      Good game.

    6. Soniman



    7. -Ace-


      Sonic game

    8. Wrapped in Black
    9. TheOcelot


      game I don't hate but find difficult to like.

    10. RosaRosaRosalina


      ...Video Game created by Sonic Team of SEGA. The game is out on the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii consoles.

    11. Carbo


      Terrible game

    12. Strickerx5


      ...great game with questionable gameplay that has a level of presentation that has yet to be matched in the sonic series.

    13. McGroose


      Good Game.

    14. C4k3


      Half good game.

    15. Shrek


      A game that nobody on SSMB will stop talking about.

    16. Chibinuva
    17. Nepenthe


      No Shrek, that's Sonic 06.

    18. Old dead account
    19. Nix


      shitty game

    20. KHCast


      game that is either good to some or shit to others.

    21. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      half kinda good with some really bad moments, half kinda okayish but horrendously unfitting for the series, with poor progression between the two that leads to an overall very meh package

  14. If SEGA/Christian Whitehead did a S3&K re-release (the full lock on) with HD & Widescreen (like Sonic CD), would you buy it?

    1. Stritix
    2. Stritix
    3. Sion-Ta


      Yeah... but I'd prefer a Sonic 2 re-release. =P

    4. HUNTER297


      I don't want any more re-relases of classic trilogy and CD. I have my Genesis for this. They should finally re-relase SA2 though

    5. frokenok3



      and any fantastic re-release i'm going to buy it!

    6. Your Vest Friend
    7. Marcello
    8. Big Boss (legendsneverdie)

      Big Boss (legendsneverdie)

      Instead of re releasing putrid shit like SA2, they should instead re release more obscure games like Knuckles Chaotix and that Sonic Patrol Car game.

    9. BlueTidalGamer
    10. Stritix


      Sonic Adventure 2 receiving 9/10's out of practically all reviewers, the upgraded port was one of the best sellers on the Gamecube, and also claimed as the best 3D Sonic game is 'putrid shit'? Yeah, ok.

    11. Stritix


      Sonic Adventure 2 receiving 9/10's out of practically all reviewers, the upgraded port was one of the best sellers on the Gamecube, and also claimed as the best 3D Sonic game is 'putrid shit'? Yeah, ok.

    12. HUNTER297


      I think Chaotix is purid shit. And I am one of those who played it on X32!

    13. HUNTER297


      I think Chaotix is purid shit. And I am one of those who played it on X32!

    14. Big Boss (legendsneverdie)

      Big Boss (legendsneverdie)

      Reviews from 10+ years ago don't mean shit today.

    15. HUNTER297


      And Chaotix was shit and is shit. And I still like SA2

    16. Stritix


      I love how you completely dismissed my other two points, and made an illogical statement on just one of them. Nice argument.

    17. Stritix


      I love how you completely dismissed my other two points, and made an illogical statement on just one of them. Nice argument.

    18. family guy

      family guy

      Sonic Adventure 2 Battle selling so well was due to OMG WAT SONIC'S ON A NINTENDO CONSOLE THIS IS SO ODD I HAVE TO GET THIS, Reviews from 10 years ago don't mean anything today and Nostalgia makes people claim it's the best 3D Sonic of all time

    19. HUNTER297


      How do you think SEGA feels about it huh? I don't think re-release of Chaotix would sell because it's so obscure (even you stated it) it's just an example. It's like releasing Sonic Labyrinth. SA2 will sell. No question about it.

    20. Stritix


      Erm, no. Sonic Heroes and Sonic Adventure DX came out just a year later, and still Sonic Adventure 2 Battle outsold them on the Gamecube. Also you can use the 'nostalgia' card for practically anything. It doesn't work, sorry.

    21. Stritix


      Erm, no. Sonic Heroes and Sonic Adventure DX came out just a year later, and still Sonic Adventure 2 Battle outsold them on the Gamecube. Also you can use the 'nostalgia' card for practically anything. It doesn't work, sorry.

  15. Coke vs Pepsi, which do you prefer?

    1. The drunkard from space!
    2. Marcello
    3. Pawn
    4. KHCast


      What do you think I like?

    5. Thigolf


      Schwipp Schwapp.

    6. Shrek


      I like them both equally.

    7. Nepenthe


      It's illegal in Georgia to say Pepsi when asked this question.

    8. Clades Jin
    9. Alex2Beta


      I like all form of liquid.

      Okay, that was wrong.

    10. KHCast


      @Nepenthe so you would say Pepsi if you could is what your saying!

    11. Komodin
    12. Nepenthe


      Fuck no, it's illegal for a reason, like saying you're going to kill the president. Pepsi is vile compared to Coke. :3

    13. KHCast


      You are being brainwashed to believe that my friend! PEPSI IS DELICIOUS IN ALL IT'S FORMS!!! DRINK IT NOW!!!*Forces pepsi down Nepenthes throat.*

    14. Dark Qiviut

      Dark Qiviut

      Neither. *drinks water*

    15. Nepenthe


      *shoots Pepsiman* Your second mistake was trying to get me to drink Pepsi.

      Your first was praising Pepsi Next. I'd take regular Pepsi over that diet crud. D:

    16. KHCast


      guns have no harm on a being like me. Foolish civilian. Well as long as you like Pepsi in one form or another, I'm fine with you.:D And I'm pepsiman, I must praise all forms of pepsi!

    17. Marcello


      Yes, water is definitely my favorite drink.

    18. Nepenthe


      D: I'd take Pepsi over Pepsi Next like I'd take getting punched over getting raped. One is clearly less bad than the other.

      And dammit, we need a Cokeman in this bitch.... WHERE'S COLA?! WE NEED TO CO-OPT HIM!

    19. Jango
    20. KHCast


      ......BRING ME YOUR COKEMAN! I WILL BATTLE HIM!! Ehh, I guess where you live you were raised like this. Oh well. Can't change you in a heartbeat i guess.

  16. All games with '4' in the name suck.

    1. Your Vest Friend
    2. GreatAndPowerful


      Resident Evil 4? I've never played it myself, but I heard it was good.

    3. Milo


      Super Mario Bros. 4 (aka Super Mario World)

    4. AlphaRuby


      Sonic 4 wasn't THAT bad.

    5. AlphaRuby


      I know some who would agree with Command and Conquer 4.

    6. spinny


      super mario advance 4, that fucking phenomenal remake of smb3?

      and dwibs, yes it was

    7. DocAzure


      Yeah, RE4.

    8. Milo


      @dwibs Yeah, it's that bad.

    9. Enderwoman


      super mario 64

    10. Kiah


      Spinny, that's your opinion that Sonic 4 sucked. dwibs doesn't think so and neither do I. And that's our opinion :P

    11. AlphaRuby


      I don't think it's as bad as other games I've played.

    12. spinny


      hey hey hey hold on why was i the only one who got that

    13. Athena Cykes

      Athena Cykes

      @Azure, no. No. No.

    14. Spin Attaxx

      Spin Attaxx

      >mega man 4

      I'd honestly say it (and 5) are good "gateway" games to get into the series :U

    15. DocAzure


      @Apollo Opinion all you want, it was so insanely well received.

    16. AlphaRuby


      @Kiah Yeah, Gabe said it too, so why only comment on Spinny?

    17. Milo


      I'm willing to argue Sonic 4 is a bad game.

    18. Kiah


      @dwibs: Because Gabe's comment wasn't there when I was typing mine yet. I had no idea he even said that until you brought it to my attention. Otherwise I would of mentioned him too.

    19. AlphaRuby
    20. Milo


      i got stealth >:D

  17. The SSMB verdict on Sonic Boom? Yay or nah?

  18. If Forces features a stage from Unleashed, which one would you like to see?

    1. Balding Spider
    2. JosepHenry


      Jungle Joyride


      Funny, the Forest looks like Jungle Joyride with Lost World art style



    3. KHCast


      Eggmanland or Dragon Road

    4. Strickerx5


      Holaska with dem Northern Lights.

    5. Diogenes


      let's just go to spagonia again

    6. MegasonicZX


      Seconding holoska, would be nice to see a new rendition of that stage.

    7. Celestia
    8. Forte-Metallix


      The haunted mansion from Night of the Werehog.

      I need my ghost waifu back!

    9. Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      The most fitting of them all for the scenario. Eggmanland of course!

    10. JezMM


      Dragon Road would probably be my first choice, though Windmill Isle is pretty iconic as long as they put a big twist on it.

    11. Adamabba


      I love Spagonia enough to want to see it again...


    12. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      i'll take any excuse to hear dragon road again

    13. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      Definitely Eggmanland.

    14. Clewis



      A lot of Unleashed's stages are pretty boring conceptually, even though they look really nice.

    15. Pelvic WOO! engine

      Pelvic WOO! engine

      Lets throw some Arid sands in there while were at it...


      Oh um.....

      In a sandstorm!!...

      Uh.... with lots of....




      no......Add meteors!!

    16. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma


      Welp, better not let Elliot play it.

    17. PaddyFancy


      Rooftop Run x Final Chase

    18. Strickerx5


      @A Hyper KING heavy engineActually, having a sandstorm roll in through the background would be pretty sick!

    19. KHCast


      @Clewis Apotos and Dragon Road boring??? Also savannah citedal would be pretty to see again.

    20. Clewis


      @KHCast One is a Greek city and the other is the Great Wall with some admittedly cool dragon structures everywhere.

      Again the environments are really nice looking, but I prefer the level of creativity featured in Colors' environments instead. Unleashed's just feel a bit one-note in comparison.

  19. Which Sonic games did you get rid of because you hated them?

    1. Gregzilla


      Shadow the Hedgehog. I didn't HATE it, but it's the only game I disliked enough to sell.

    2. Space☆Tomoki
    3. Marcello
    4. Urban Flow

      Urban Flow

      yeah, I still have them all.

    5. Felix


      I'm gonna do this to Sonic Rush soon.

    6. Vertekins


      Sonic Chronicles.

    7. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      Mario and Sonic at the Olympics and Unleashed Wii.

    8. Chibinuva


      None, because I know if I sell them I'm going to regret it later, even though I have a ton of new games I'd like to get. And either way, most of them are so old I couldn't make much of a profit on them anyways.

    9. Wentos


      Secret Rings and Black Knight.

      I'm starting to miss Secret Rings.

    10. Soniman
    11. Felix


      @Hatsune Get it back.

    12. Carbo


      All of them except pre-Heroes and Generations.

      Oh no wait, I did keep 06 as a fallback when I don't have a good comedy movie for nights with friends.

    13. TheOcelot
    14. Ferno


      None, except Chronicles. and Generations 3DS...and Colors DS

    15. Ekaje


      Heroes and Colors DS.

      I really regret getting Colors DS. I got and beat it on the same day.

    16. Pawn


      I don't get rid of my games.

    17. Old dead account

      Old dead account

      All except for colors and generations. I regret most

    18. sonfan1984


      None of them. But from time to time I I still feel regret and ashamed for keeping Shadow in my Sonic/Gaming collection. :\

    19. Steve


      06, Unleashed, Secret rings, and Shadow

  20. Favourite Doctor Who episode?

    1. Debug Ring

      Debug Ring

      Oh you-

      Give me some time. But Blink os excellent.

    2. Celestia


      Pfft, easy choice. There's only hundreds of them!

      Okay, let's see ... for Nine it's probably his last episode, for Ten I'm not too sure, and for Eleven it's probably The Big Bang.

    3. The KKM

      The KKM

      Serial, really. But either The Aztecs or The Edge of Destruction. Talons of Weng-Chiang is close by.

    4. Jeffhog


      Hit the end of Series 3, so as of now... Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks. Never thought I'd end up liking a single member of their kind.

    5. Clades Jin

      Clades Jin

      I... Don't watch Doctor Who...

    6. Jeffhog



    7. Clades Jin

      Clades Jin


      I'M SO SORRY

    8. Celestia


      Oh wait, there's also "Dalek" from New Series 1, that episode doesn't get enough love.

    9. TheOcelot


      Blink (first appearance of the Weeping Angels) is a very good one.

    10. Jeffhog


      @EoC: OH AGREED

    11. Debug Ring

      Debug Ring

      Out of modern:

      9: Dalek or The Empty Child

      10: Blink or Utopia's Three parts

      11: The God Complex, The Doctor's Wife or Vincent and the Doctor.

    12. Speederino


      This question is pure evil >:0

      I'd say the one that has stuck with me the most is Pyramids of Mars. I'd still have to stare at a big list for a few hours to say anything definitive though.

    13. The KKM

      The KKM


    14. Jeffhog


      Once I'm caught up in the Revival series, I'll check out the Classics.

    15. Celestia


      Oh fak, I somehow forgot about The Doctor's Wife. D8

    16. Debug Ring

      Debug Ring

      Out of Classic:


    17. Celestia



      Not impossible if you have enough *shades* /time/.


    18. Debug Ring

      Debug Ring

      EoC: You heartless bastard! Nobody forgets The Doctor's Wife.

      And trust me, I've got the time. no I really do.

    19. Speederino


      So do I, though I'm still surprised to learn that I make it to my eleventh persona.

  21. Unleashed. Sigh...the music, graphics and story is so good.

    1. Victoes


      Don't let soniman see this.

    2. neezTHEhuman


      and the werehog platforming is great too

    3. JAiRO


      I know man, gameplay is a bit lacking in some areas though.

    4. Enderwoman
    5. MamboCat
    6. Soniman



      have I reached a status as the Unleashed ball-buster already?

    7. VGamer


      Best Sonic OST to-date imo, and graphics... and story.

    8. Chooch


      Since Unleashed the only Sonic game that has had a comparable amount of ambition behind it is.. Boom, hahaha.

    9. SuperLink


      I don't understand why people like the story, it's as generic as generic can be besides the Eggman bits.

    10. MamboCat


      If Boom has the same scope and aesthetics as Unleashed, I will be a happy chappy... who can't play it. >:(

    11. KHCast


      @link I could say the same for LW and Colors. Different tastes.

    12. JAiRO



      A anthropomorphic blue hedgehog turns into a werewolf and uses single handedly puts the world back together, while discovering there are threats greater than the mere fat, genius doctor who continues to harass him.

      Geez this concept is soooo tired. ;)

    13. Soniman



      But those stories were actually about Sonic...

    14. Milo


      @SuperLink It's probably on the sole merit that it's miles better than what came before it for the past seven years. And for some it's better than what has come afterwards (Storybook games notwithstanding).

    15. Dr. Crusher

      Dr. Crusher

      "while discovering there are threats greater than the mere fat, genius doctor"

      That part certainly is.

    16. JAiRO




    17. KHCast


      So because there about Sonic, that makes the quality 10 times better? Cause I still think they were lacking in many areas I like(although I do like LW sonics personality.)

    18. SuperLink


      @KHCast: I never said LW or Colours had good stories either.

      Sonic becoming a wolf is neat but you could tell that story in a party game just as easily.

    19. Soniman


      Nothing happens in Unleashed's middle, things happen in SLW. Colors had the same issues as Unleashed but at least it had some writing with energy to carry it.

  22. Since Mania is Saturn-esque, then Mania 2 should be Dreamcast-eque :P


    1. Briraka


      Low-poly 2.5D classic Sonic action.

    2. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      ....is it... is it wrong for me to say that I'd actually like that

    3. AngelSlayerN64


      I'll be damned if Sonic Mania 2 gets revealed on Sonic's 30th Anniversary.

    4. Celestia


      Were there any 2D platformers on the Dreamcast? Would be interesting to look at those and maybe get an idea of what that would be like.

    5. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Outside of Marvel vs Capcom 2 and a few bullet hell shooters, I can't think of anything ._.

    6. FriendBot


      Mania 2 is most certainly going to be a thing, there's no way this is going to be a one-off.

      Just like how we thought Modern and Classic teaming up for Generations was going to be one-off deal yet we see both in Project 2017.

    7. AngelSlayerN64
    8. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Depending on how things turn out, I can see Mania being an evergreen type of game where it gets new DLC every so often; in this case it'd be another few remixes of old levels and some new ones altogether, enough to double the content of the original each pack. Dont' know how that would affect the story, though.

    9. AngelSlayerN64


      Amy and Metal Sonic as DLC would be nice.

    10. Celestia


      I feel like whether or not sequels happen depends largely on how well the game does. I know, stating the obvious, but yeah.

      I like the idea of Mania getting DLC updates every once in a while ala Smash. Seems like something they could have a lot of fun with, and maybe even use it to promote new games. Like, say, a classic take on a level appearing in Sonic '17, for (a very wild) example. XP

    11. TheOcelot


      I don't think Mania will get any DLC. It's a small budget game being developed by a small team.

      A sequel with a bigger budget? Then we can talk DLC.

    12. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      Well.. how much work would it take to remix an already existing level? Green Hill, while it has some great graphical touch-ups, may have been one of the least taxing tasks for the team to do. They aren't necessarily starting totally from scratch for all of it, is what I mean. Adding a handful of other level remixes wouldn't be terribly difficult as opposed to creating level geometry from scratch for a big budget like Sonic Generations, for instance. 

      Besides which, we don't actually know what Mania's budget is. I can't imagine it's massive, though. 


    13. E-van


      omfg please i would actually love this a lot

    14. TheOcelot


      On NeoGaf Taxman said something along the lines of "going the 32-bit Saturn allows to them to make a more complete game rather than 4 zones with forgettable HD graphics". So, yeah it sounds like Mania probably has a similar budget to Sonic 4.


    15. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      I wonder if making Tails playable alone cost the team millions of dollars



      #Ken Balough


    16. AngelSlayerN64
    17. Milo


      @BenderMania That's not true. Sonic 4 has Sonic and Tails together in co-op; and Ken Balough said having Tails playable on his own would cost millions of dollars.

      Mania has Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, all independently playable, so it clearly costs way more than Sonic 4 does. =p

    18. FriendBot


      Considering how much effort Mania has, Mania might actually have a bigger budget than Sonic 4. XD

  23. Aside from Mania & Forces which other games are you going to buy this year?

    1. Diogenes


      lol, forces, nice one

    2. Strickerx5


      That new Uncharted game, Odyssey, and probably that new Battlefront if the reviews hold up.

    3. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      I'm not buying Mania, what the hell. 

      Replace it with Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon, I'll get that. 

    4. Bobnik


      >Aside from Mania & Forces
      I ain't buying that, at least this year.


      I don't think I'll have money to buy any other game tbh. Unless the game is nearly perfect that is.

    5. Sega DogTagz

      Sega DogTagz

      Destiny 2. That's another 1000+ hours down the drain for me.

      Might be tempted to get Sun/Moon Ultra if the post-game content is new and worth it. If not I'll skip that.

      Aside from that I might get a Switch toward the end of the year. Zelda would be a nice grab around the holidays.

    6. Marcello


      What makes you think I'm buying Mania and Forces this year?

      Other than Metroid Samus Returns, I don't know what I'll be buying this year.

    7. Dejimon11


      Super Mario Odyssey duh.

    8. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      Probably nothing. I've gotta start looking for a consistent source of income since I'll have to fend for myself soon, so I'll be penny pinching. Besides, Breath of the Wild and my stuff on my computer will tide me over just fine.

    9. McGroose


      Anything for free on PSN my dude

    10. Kiah


      Nothing. Sonic all the way, baby! :D

      Although that might change if I end up getting a Switch this year. 


    11. The Deleter

      The Deleter


      Splatoon 2


      Metroid: Samus Returns

      N. Sane trilogy

      And of course...




    12. Diogenes


      anyway seriously once I get a switch i plan on getting Splats2 and MariOddy, and I'll probably pick up Metriod 3ds before the end of the year

    13. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      @Diogenes Marioddy sounds like a weird bastardization of Marrietty.

    14. Penny