TheOcelot

All I'm really interested in when it comes to multiple playable characters is that they follow the S3K model - everyone plays like Sonic, with slightly varying stats and moves. Shadow is a good place to start because he's already so similar to Sonic and, unlike Knuckles and Tails, doesn't have and signature abilities that would just break the game.

I have no reason to get my hopes up.

I have that to look forward to I guess. Shadow was grossly underutilized in Forces, if they renove him in the next I will be kind of upset.

That would be cool. At this point  hopefully it will be someone in the cast playable other than Sonic and Sonic...

i could see them interpreting people happy about shadow being brought back as a playable character in forces meaning people want him to ride vehicles and use guns/weapons/chaos powers again; and shoehorning all of that into the next game

Honestly I'm fine with Chaos powers as long as they provide interesting platforming experiences.  The idea of a Chaos Control that freezes time can lend itself to that, or one that lets you warp across a space kinda like a teleport special move from Smash Bros.

Not sure about Chaos Blast... hard to think of any way to make that one useful unless they're gonna arbitrarily start using enemy hordes again which just aren't fun.  And if they exist simply to use Chaos Blast on, doing so has no meaning.  But Blast isn't really necessary anyway, it isn't a signature move of his like Control is.

Never thought I'd see people wanting things to be the Sonic and Shadow show again

Hey, it's working for Super :V

Depending on who you ask lol

I'm sure they'll do it in a way that nobody asked for.

I suppose, lol.

The Sonic and Tails show aint shit so I'll take anyone else

The Sonic and Knuckles show is where it's at, fam.

At least Shadow is independent and can handle himself unlike Tails.

*Perfect Dark Gaia

how are we supposed to help?

Prey for me!

Moral support, I guess.

YOU CAN DO IT SOIC! WATCH OUT FOOR THAT HOMING SHOT!

Prepare to break both your thumb and the Square button.

Don't fuck up.

Dammit, Komodin. On the plus side, we now know the thought process behind how the Generations boss fight was created.

stop playing

Left jab, right jab, left upper cut, right dodge. BOOOOSH!!!!! Skadoosh!!! WATCH OUT FOR THAT HOMING SHOT!!!! QTE Mayhem!!!! In all seriousness though...I'll tell you later ;D

Whatever you do, don't think about losing...or failing...or the fact that if you screw up then you'll have to start all over...and ESPECIALLY don't think about your fingers moving too slow out of panic on the Press the button 60 times QTE!

Be fucking quick on the shield part or Chip dies. You'll probably die too though, as the controls are so terrible.

@Jubei: IKR. My fingers always stiffen up, causing me to not move as quickly and mess up the QTEs. And that is why I've never played enough of Unleashed to get to the final boss.

HD? Hit those snake things but be careful for Dark gaia's lazers! Then get ready for a big QTE!

...Crash Bandicoot?

But if that doesn't count, then Gex.

Crash Bandicoot.

Star Fox, F-Zero, Crash bandicoot, Spyro Te Dragon (in proper, non-Skylanders form), Mega Man....the list goes on.

*The

Startropics?

Sonic

^ha

Bubsy

Dark Forces, Knights of the Old Republic, Battlefront...

Damn it bring back all of the old Star Wars game series.

Crash Bandicoot

Gex Gecko, Crash Bandicoot, Ecco The Dolphin, Micro Machines.

powerstone, viewtiful joe, starfox,guntar heroes

SimCity.

vectorman

Lost World

unleashed

Lost World

Probably Lost World.

Colours

Unleashed but LW is a close second. I actually played LW at SoS and it left a highly positive impression

Yeah LW for me as well.

Lost World.

Lost World is marred by too many subjective quibbles I have with the series to impress me as much as Unleashed did, but damn that Parkour.

unleashed and lost world are tied right now

For me, Colours and Lost World.

sonic adventure.. no wonder I didn't get any work done in my last year of high school

Adventure or Adventure 2

Generations, Lost World, and Unleashed to an extent (though I wasn't following Sonic as closely back in 2008.)

&knuckles

If only

When did &Knuckles became some stupid meme?

If it makes you feel better, at least it'll always be the Knuckles Stadium in your heart.

&RipeFIN

But then noone would chuckle.

SSMB would rather flex its muscles

Try asking that to the official Sonic twitter account, fin.

@RipeFIN

When we realised calling a game Sonic 3 "& Knuckles" is stupid becaause the name should simply be Sonic The Hedgehog 3 (the full 14 zones). That game should never have been split in half.

@BenderBR Ok...?

But with the name thing I do agree.

But then how would we chuckle?

Not like it stopped Sega from including two zones in Sonic Generations from the '& Knuckles' half and labeling it as such, funnily enough.

How bout a Bean stadium!? 

Eh, eh Who's with me?!

No one? Oh well okay then...

@Dan-Dude It'd make for a nice April Fool's joke, at least.

Parts of it are good, but I don't really remember it otherwise.

Compared to most 3D Sonics it doesn't really shine or stand out. It's not a bad OST and it has some great moments (Dragon Dance)

Seriously Dragon Dance is so awesome it's right up there with most of Colours and Unleashed's music for me.

On the whole it's a strong soundtrack but yeah, it is a tad forgettable

ew

Highly forgettable and unremarkable.

it's just... there for me mostly

Desert Ruins 1 may actually be my favourite song from this entire era of Unleashed ~ present, but that's the most I give the soundtrack as a whole lol

It's alright.

It has some good tracks, some bad tracks, and a ton of unmemorable ones.

Competent but overall eh. I love Wonder World especially, tho.

Sky Road 1 <3

Pretty swell. Not nearly on Colours or Heroes' music level, but still really enjoy it. Midnight Owl, Hidden World and Special Stage are some of the biggest earworms in recent years. Also has the best final boss music in years; thank god for not being a theme remix.

What Felix said pretty much sums it up. Just add on to that that it's all wrong for Sonic.

I still like it, but it's not the best Sonic has had

Pretty great imo. Doesn't have many fast-paced "Sonic-y" tracks, but it fits the game well, much like Sonic 1's music.

way too many

I've never finished Uncharted 3.

Played and never finished by completed one playthrough... So finished?

Never finished but completed a playthrough? Isn't that finishing?

@Bender: Consider yourself lucky then.

Sorry to confuse. I mean never finished the game.

Every Pokémon game after Black.

I can't muster up the will to give a shit anymore.

I haven't beaten:

LA Noire

Borderlands 1 and 2

Kingdom Hearts 1.5

Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories

Mirror's Edge

Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction

Rayman Origins and Tomb Raider Anniversary.

Sonic Advance 2. Getting the Emeralds was way too hard. Getting all 7 rings to get to the special stage THEN you had one chance. If you blew it, you had to go back and try getting the 7 rings again..

Crash, finish L.A. Noire. Now.

Too many to count.

@ImPantsAtThis

I was about to (I have around 3 cases left) and then Watch_Dogs came in the mail and... yeah.

InFamous 2

You need to feel dat ending tho. Powerful stuff.

Sonic Mega Collection

*Shot*

Sonic Generations

Sonic Colors.

LOL @Patticus

I say Sonic Heroes.

Wait... I misread the question...

Wait... I misread the question...

ITS: People can't read

Dynamite Headdy.

Favorite Genesis game period.

Pfft, I mis-read the question! Ristar or Alex Kidd probably.

Shit, i misread the question as well!

Shit, i misread the question as well!

Ristar BITCH

Mine is Decap Attack

I love how everyone misread the question. =P

I haven't played many Genesis games aside from Sonic, so I'd probably say Ristar.

C:

C:

C:

C:

C:

no

That's not how you spell CD. :3

also I prefer SA1 to SA2, personally.

No love for the classic games?

you have them mixed up

I disagree. Sonic Adventure 2 is meh.

I love how nobody got the joke.

What's the joke then, Homem?

*laughs* No.

Look at Bender's profile. Those are not his favorite games, he's just being rather sarcastic.

I think only me and Homem got that.

They are my favourite 3d Sonic games.

In terms of my all time favourite Sonic games, SA2 is 3rd and SA1 is 6th.

One third of SA2 is good and the other two are meh.

Eh, it's definitely up there. In my top 5 probably.

This one:

they're all pretty good imo (though i like wii!4's theme more than hd/ios!4)

Mania >>>> CD (US) >> Sonic 3 >>>>> Sonic 4.

Sonic 1/2 are still GOAT for classic-based invincibility themes IMO.

also since apparently we can submit our own i'd like to bring this to the table

Wait hold on

This one is my 'runner' up.

@Boomer

Definitely SA1/2

SA1 has the best soundtrack in the entire series. Name me one bad song from SA1.

SA1

inb4mysweetpassion

Can't name any song, there so forgettable.

I really like Gamma's theme.

SA1 BE WILD BE GROOVY YEAA

Oh, and the Egg Carrier music. It's awesome.

SA1, SA2 had its share of greats, but SA1 just has more of that Sonic feel to it.

Only joking. SA1 has some great tracks, no doubt.

SA1 all the way. Knux rap was too much for me.

the only memorable song from sa2 (aside from main themes) is pumpkin hill

and it's not memorable for good reasons

I think the SA2 tracks fit the levels better than SA1.

SA1 by a longshot. SA2's wasn't as memorable.

CD can't be above any of them.

Depending on how Tails and Knuckles play and how the levels progress and such... I might put it on equal footing with 3&K. 

I just wanna see more.

Put Sonic 2 where CD is and CD where 1 is and this'll make a LOT more sense.

@BenderMania 

The ;level design is top-notch.

To borrow a "ShayMay" word; in terms of the "fluidity" it's got some big shoes to feel to live up to 3&K.

In terms of the animation naturally it should surpass 3&K, but it will be difficult to do a better story.

Sonic 2 after Sonic 1, you fahnny

Sonic R is superior to all of those games listed.

I've never been much of a fan of Sonic 2 (it's a good game of course), but I just have more fun with Sonic CD & Sonic 1.

I find they suit me for different moods. I play Sonic 2 the most on my phone as it's a bit more consistently fast-paced than the rest of them and it's sometimes really nice to have a quick rush, I dip into Sonic CD on rarer occasions for when I want to muck around in the levels and see things, and I start up Sonic 1 when I want to practice the mechanics and work on my skills.

Sonic 1 being the platformer, Sonic 2 being the speedster, and Sonic CD being the explorer, to be precise.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles I play when I want the best experience possible, when I can have a little bit of everything, but not too much of everything. Best of all worlds, but not too extreme in any of them. I'm still bummed out that it's not mobile, and still extremely peeved that people would refuse to join in the Sonic 3 Remastered campaign just because it was going to be for mobile only, at least at first.

Sonic 4 >>>>>> everything

Idk in terms of speediness I think Sonic 1 gets rather shit later on.

I like Sonic 2 for the fact that it doesn't give you a 'bad' ending for not getting all the Chaos Emeralds - they're completely optional, which helps considering I typically have a tough time with its special stages. I honestly find S2 easier to just pick up and play than S3K, even though S3K's stages are really easy.

@Indigo Rush

Sonic 3&K being the "adventurer"

Too early.

And I'd prefer it to be Wii Only.

You have Unleashed HD.

I'm not sure it would work, it was made for the Wii's control scheme.

Motion controls wise, anyways.

@ Jin: What difference does it make if PS3 and 360 users have Unleashed HD and Generations? Colours is another game entirely that people have to miss out on.

Oh boy. Here we go again.

@Shrek Considering you could use the Gamecube controller, you don't need to edit it much from that. Not that they would do it, though.

Because it's unfair.

I have to miss out on Unleashed HD too. All the Wii users do.

All we got was the shitty PS2/Wii version. I think it's completely justified if we got to keep Colours while you have Unleashed HD.

Unfair? Someone call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.

@Tornado, How mature. I think I hear the sound of butthurt incoming.

Until they release Unleashed HD for something like PC, then Colours remains ours, suck it. The Wii is cheaper then a PS3 or Xbox 360. Go buy it.

Oh? Since when was the typical Nintendo entitlement you've expressed so far the mature point of view?

"Sonic Stadium: Bastion of Maturity since 2000."

'06. Easily.

Generations or 06.

06.

Shadow the Hedgehog

SONIC '06 or Chronicles.

06

S3&K.

06. I like the general idea I guess, but they executed it so horribly. Same with Shadow.

Shadow the Hedgehog.

Oh yeah, a tie between Shadow,06 or chronicles.

Can't decide between '06 and Shadow.

@Nep You don't like S3&K's story? Why?

Preaching to the choir here, but tie between 06 and Shadow.

Does the demo count?

 Last month IIRC

I haven’t played Mania since last year either lol.

Last month I think. Uninstalled it pretty soon after. 

The day before Super Sonic was supposed to stop being free

Today actually. Had to kill 10 minutes.

Just now. I use the Switch version and collect Red Rings during my subway commutes, and I already platted the PS4 version.

why yes, i own this game twice

A week ago.

Fuck you, Ring King.

day before yesterday

November

never

man I don't even remember lol who gives af

Iunno

Last night I just earned my hundredth red ring

*not

All of them.

I haven't played any Sonic games in quite some time.

Shadow the Hedgehog. Have no desire to go back to it after A-ranking all of it and clearing it's expert mode.

Rush.

My DS has been broken for some time.

Crow ninjaed my response.

Sonic Heroes, if a single year is a long time.

heroes

Haven't played any of the Riders games for a good while.

Unleashed

all of them

...All of them really, apart from Unleashed since I'm doing a playthrough of it.

Generations.

You're playing a Sonic Game!

Sonic CD?

Tails And The Music Maker.

Sonic 4 Ep 2? oh and nice name change.

A game with fucking amazing music.

DDR?

You're playing a Sonic game, stop denying it.

Thanks Neez. No, not Ep2.

Nep, DDR, Dance Dance Revolution?

A game with amazing music? So that narrows it down to pretty much EVERYTHING.

Hm. SA1?

Sonic Generations?

Not SA1.

Greg-eneezer your so close. I just A ranked a city stage...

Sonic Adventure 2.

Yep SA2.

I really like it. One of my favorites.

Least favorite of the classic trilogy.

I'll still think that it is a good game. Really like Chemical Plant, Casino Night, Mystic Cave but found Sky Chase really boring and there are parts that need a bit more time to polish such as Metropolis (really like the stage but the enemy placement needs a tweak), Death Egg and the Special Stages however has better flow of speed compared to Sonic 1. The spin dash is a great move for Sonic and makes it easier to go up curves. Music's great.

Not my favourite Sonic game but would be in my Top 5, my favorite of the Genesis games.

Up there with sonic 3 for me.

Still like it. After all, it’s the game that Tails debuted in! ?

There's just too much about the game I dislike. Emerald Hill's level design has really awkward slopes and terrain and Coconuts is an annoying motherfucker, easily the worst Badnik in the game (Even more so to me than the Metropolis ones), Casino Night is too blocky, aquatic ruin and Hill Top look really pretty, but are boring and feel uninspired, Mystic Cave is OK and I always loved Oil Ocean. Metropolis just sucks and Sky Chase is a chore. Wing Fortress is actually a really fun level in the game. The Death Egg's bosses are very creatively designed, but the lack of an actual level always underwhelmed me.

The special stages are my least favorite in the series, probably the worst in my opinion 2nd only to 3D Blast on the Genesis. 
It's ironic that my favorite level in the game is that was scrapped and redesigned for the mobile port.

I want to love it, but something about it rubs me the wrong way and turns me off from it whenever I try to play it.

Least favourite here too.  It's so bad for unpredictable hazards from very early on in the game.  Sonic CD is TECHNICALLY worse for "punishing the player for going fast without knowing the level" but for some reason I find the non-damaging/lethal hazards of that game far less annoying than the Grounders and Slicers of Sonic 2.

There are even some spots, like the Shellcrackers in corridors with no room to jump over them, or the cluster of Whisps above the springboard near the end of of Act 1(?) in Aquatic Ruin that to this day I don't understand how it's possible to not take damage from them.

I still play it FAIRLY often on mobile if I'm burned out on my other choices there - 1 and CD, but I'd play S3&K so much more if I could.

It's one of the best Sonic games ever made.

It's up there with some of my most favorite in the franchise and is also the first Sonic game I ever played.

Although I've spent so much time playing it over the years my general feelings towards it are a bit numb at this point.

I remember being super excited about it when I was 4. Even back then Sonic meant a lot to me

It's pretty good. 7/10 tho' cuz Tails can't fly (...in the official versions I've played, anyway)

Despite cheap enemy placement and a high difficulty spike 2/3rds in (starting with Oil Ocean), it's still easily among the best Sonic games. Really amazing how it tightens up and streamlines a lot of the weaker elements from the first game (level design especially) to positive effect; and adds stuff like multiplayer and Super Sonic. And the music is among the series' best.

The level design also has a stronger playground mentality to it in regards to its physics that you don't really see in the other classic games. There's few and far places in the old games where you can do something like this Bouncing Challenge:

Absolutely.

I'm big Sonic fan but I have been that only a few years. Crash fan? Well, last 15 years.

only if the sonic game looks mediocre as always

i honestly think that if the Crash thing happens, it'll eclipse whatever sega's doing in the eyes of the public

Isn't Wrath of Cortex technically Crash 4?

@Forte-Metallix

Wrath of Cortex is more of a rehash of Crash 3. It's design is similar to Crash 3 in a lot of ways.

Any game > Sonic 25th anniversary game

@Ferno Crash hasn't seen a new game since the late 2000s, so I wouldn't be surprised if a new Crash game (especially one that follows the style of the ND games) gets much more attention that whatever Sonic has for his 25th anniversary.

(It also helps that this year is the 20th anniversary of the original Crash Bandicoot, so that's another factor in favor of a new Crash game.)

But it's considered Crash 4 in Japan:

And a fourth installment blatantly rehashing older ideas? Where have I heard that before...?

Forte-Metallix  You win! haha.

Wrath of Cortex re-uses a lot of ideas from Crash 3 and thus feels like they played it safe by copy that game. The abilities which Crash unlocks in Crash make a return in Wrath of Cortex. and the stage do have a lot of similarities. I think the graphics in Wrath are pretty nice.

Wrath is good game in parts. 

*Crash unlocks in Crash 3

*the stages do

Crash wouldn't get more attention than Sonic. Crash is nothing compared to Sonic.

And Crash Twinsanity is Crash 5 for reference. 

@Marcello I wouldn't say too quick to say that to be honest...

*wouldn't be too quick

It'll probably be something more than just a mere sequel. Crash has been out of the picture long enough for a full-blown reboot to not be shocking to anyone. It's not like the story was ever integral to the experience. I would go with a reboot if only because the continuity has become really messed up. As long as the characters we love are there, that's all that really matters.

I dont.

Because they hate Shadow the Hedgehog.

He was the original "rival" character. Plus, he's got sweet dreads and an awesome design.

AND he can glide, climb walls and tear through solid rock as if it were cotton candy.

He's awesome. Duh.

Because he's Knuckles the Echidna.

He's so socially awkward, he's adorable.

Really guys? No unlike Sonic he doesn't chuckle comment?

Cuz unlike Sonic, he doesn't chuckle. He'd rather flex his muscles.

because he was in Sonic 3

because he was in Sonic 3

Because he glides, climbs, and is red..O-Oh! You prefer Shadow/Blaze/Rouge/ANYONE !? Well you don't see me asking why people like *insert* character! >:U

Because I can.

Heroes? without a doubt?

Sonic Heroes is better in literaly everyway.

Heroes.

The one without guns, swearing and shark jumping.

Heroes.

Heroes is better, Shadow has a lot of similar problems though. Controls are less slippery but level design and missions are still problematic, and there are other problems like the stuff Indigo said and bland level tropes.

i now wish that SHtH had a shark-jumping scene, taken as seriously as possible

I've always felt that ShTH's controls were much better than Heroes, personally.

Eh, I'd say they're equal. They both have their pros and cons.

How could you tell with the shit cluastraphobic level design?

ShtH controls better.

That is literally the only thing it does better.

> Implying I said anything different.

no comparison, Heroes is a good game

Forces Minus

It's basically Sonic Forces, except now all of the cutscenes are just white text on a black background and additional boost pads have been added to balance out the those pesky areas of boring gameplay. Super Sonic is paid DLC again.

Sonic Manic

A spinoff featuring your favourite OC from Sonic Underground

mania sequel or a proper sonic 4 pls.

Hopefully a sequel happens, it's great, all original zones and not rushed. Early 2020 maybe. 

hopefuly. i cant even stand modern sonic anymore.. 😕

Dream scenario: A good 3D Sonic game. Taking all the previous feedback and making a good Modern game. Also Sonic Mania 2 under a different name with original zones, good if they kept the previous graphics and tweaked them (ala Sonic 1 -> 2/CD) but even better if there was an art evolution.

Likely scenario: Sonic Forces 2 in everything but name, just like Sonic Forces was Sonic Generations 2. An okay game but worse than the previous games. A Sonic Mania sequel done by different people but more zone recycling and not getting what made the original great.

Oh and don't forget Mario & Sonic 2020.

When it comes to mainline games, I have absolutely no idea. What I want ST to do is the game that they want to do instead of making a checklist of surface-level things people want, like Forces was.

Like, after Unleashed SEGA/Sonic Team became outright scared of having their own ambition and their own creativity and instead just make the games by the checklist on what the community wants. Even Mania, while it still has a lot of returning levels, still felt like devs themselves wanted to make this game, unlike Forces, which was just another poor attempt at appeasing everyone.

So yeah, I don't know what to expect, but I want Sonic Team to just go nuts and make what they themselves want.

In terms of everything else - TSR is a thing this year, the movie is a thing next year, and maaaaybe another 2D title in 2 years or so.

Play other games. Octopath Traveler is getting a lot of positive buzz. The Mega Man X legacy collection is coming out in a couple of days.

I gots Yakuza, Shenmue, Spyro, Pokemon, SMASH it'll be good for the next number of months 

Play more Mania

Waiting for Team Sonic Racing and Mega Man 11.

mega man x legacy collection

Team Sonic Racing. Trust in Sumo.

DANKEY DICK DONG KONGS

Yoshi's New Island

I don't have one yet.

Nothing yet

Infamous Second Son

Konkey Tropical Dong Freeze. Its also my only game of 2014 so far :|

Does Left Behind count?

Haven't played enough game to form an opinion yet.

Will likely be either Driveclub or Uncharted 4.

South Park: The Stick of Truth

@Lamor.

Yes. It's small but awesome. Just like MGS: Ground Zeroes.

'Never fart on man's balls'

Killer Instinct.

It's too early for me to have bought any games from this year (plus a lot of them are for next-gen consoles, and I don't have anything 8th-gen hardware yet.)

06's definitely.

Easily Heroes.

Heroes'.

I don't really like any tracks from '06 besides Wave Ocean act 2, Crisis City (for obvious reasons) and White Acropolis act 1, while I love every Heroes stage's theme besides Lost Jungle.

Easily Heroes'.

Heroes.

whoops I am the odd one out D: (I guess 06's music, while nice, isn't really Sonicy)

I like 06 better.

Heroes.

06 easily wins.

highest of fives!

This is actually a tough one. Heores definitely has more tracks I like, but the ones I like in 06 I find to be REALLY, REALLY awesome. I guess I'll go with Heroes due to it having more gems, but some of the ones in 06 might shine brighter.

Let's see...

(not counting vocal tracks)

Tracks from 06 I like: Wave Ocean ~ The Inlet, Crisis City (all four parts), White Acropolis ~ The Peak, Kingdom Valley (all parts), Egg Dragoon, Iblis Phase 2, Solaris Phase 2, and End of the World.

Tracks from Heroes I like: Ocean Palace, System Screen: Menu, Grand Metropolis, Power Plant, Bingo Highway, Rail Canyon, Hang Castle, Mystic Mansion, Egg Fleet, Final Fortress, Metal Madness, Egg Hawk, Egg Albatross...

....

...Heroes I guess.

One more bad Sonic game.

HL3 confirmed?

???

A game I desperately hope is still coming and has become Half-Life 3. A Sonic sequel I actually wouldn't mind. The point where Sonic X gets a bit boring for a while. The Star Wars movie where Darth Vader goes Noooooooo.

zoro joined the crew

One of the Star Wars movies.

Skulker's first episode.

Half Life! D;

Valve.

Revenge of the Sith.

Worth the weight

The best of the 3 star wars prequels.

^Winner