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While the topic is gone, I will just say that I kinda have a theory in how SEGA wants IDW Shadow to be portrayed, and how he will grow from it. It is not perfect, but I do feel this Shadow could be one of the best versions of the character if it is done well. Because so far he is just doing what he thinks is right, he is not being selfish, he is focused on a mission... however he is messing up, and that might be a door for shadow to see how he is not invincible and needs help from others. It will be a long process, but is what I feel what will happend. We might say is character development "regression" but did we ever saw shadow be super nice to rouge and omega in the games? To me what we know of the future of idw feels like a slow character arc for shadow himself.
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You see, I could see this being a thing, IIRC - it was said the main mindset of SEGA rn is quite literally they want Shadow to be Vegeta.
Vegeta also had to undergo a similar arc of putting pride to one side and accepting help from, and fighting for others. If Shadow did a similar thing, it could be quite good.
But the problem is it’s also SEGA, and they’re incredibly short sighted, and tend to miss the point on why things were done well. Instead of realising Vegeta’s strength was his arc and development, they could easily just think “Oh, he’s angry, competitive, and doesn’t like people, let’s do that!” and let that be the end of it, leading to the shit portrayals of Shadow we’ve seen so far.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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The topic will be back in short order.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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I will post it here for now to save it for later.
I really get that pessimism surrounding Shadow, but also he is gonna be very important in the future, Evan even teased a Sonic and Shadow arc about them teaming up. You know... the person Shadow said that wanted to get taken by the virus (out of anger) And also we shouldn't forget that Shadow doesn't do things for himself at all, he does things for the sake the mission. He wants to kill eggman not because of himself, but he wants to make the world itself free from him.
Also let's not forget about Issue 6 and in that Shadow showed a lot of mercy, he didn't throw hands with sonic right away, he had no choice, eggman was right there, and sonic was stopping him. And he even made the excuse of eggman making sonic suffer as a reason (you know cuz maaaaaybe he cares for sonic a bit)
The infamous "cowards run, I win" issue to me makes sense as Shadow being incredibly angry, and trying to do the job on his own, because he doesn't need sonic, who in his eyes, is a total coward for not letting eggman die at that point, causing a goddamn zombie apocalipse. You know... letting his mission of protecting the world fail quiiiite a bit.
But also he knows he is powerful, so he is all about doing things on his own cuz weaker people would just get in the way of his mission, but after screwing up a lot, he is gonna learn that he is not invincible.
He is not egotistical in the way of
"Haha i am powerful you are nothing to me"
And more like
"I am powerful so i don't need friends or help"
He is egotistical cuz he is the ultimate life form, that how he was created, the name says it all, and when he has a life mission of protecting the world, he wants no interruptions. It is not something that makes himself happy. He is NOT happy. I'm pretty sure he doesn't treat himself as a person, He had a bit of fun before, he had slight bonding with rouge, omega and even sonic, but now after eggman taking over the world, and soon after sonic of all people letting a zombie apocalipse happen in his opinion,no wonder his trust in others might be extremely damaged. Showing Shadow screwing up so much in this comic to me gives me so much hope that soon he will need help from others, and with that, he will start bonding, and then having a bit of self care treatment. (Maybe adopting cats, donating to charity, doing karaoke)
Right now in IDW he is the absolute contrast to Sonic, who might have to go through a character arc himself about morality. Maybe they will start becoming more like eachother, who knows! Sonic might question if letting eggman alive was a good idea and shadow will question if it is worthwhile to kill him.
After all, if sega wants shadow to be one note, why does he keep messing up? Why this version of Shadow is the most flawed version we ever had? Food for thought.
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PublicEnemy1 reacted to this
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I honestly like the idea of him developing a complex and a sense of pride out of his heroism, and it causes him to just do reckless and irresponsible things.
As usual, its a matter of execution. I think it's got people up in arms so much because there was really no transitional period of it; so from many perspective, it just comes out of nowhere with no forethought.
The cynical part of me though says that its just easier for them to write him like this since it doesn't require much effort on the writers part.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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I tend to like Ian’s direction of the character. So as far as his portrayal in the comics go, if I don’t like it, 9 times out of 10 it has more to do with Sega strongarming him over the character.
I’d love to see them top his Archie characterization where he was at his best.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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Man I can't believe that with a simple mod moving the filler stages, Colors goes to not even on my top 10 to better than sonic 1 and 2 imo. I do not care if it was 1 hour long it was a fantastic one hour experience that I will replay again and again.
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Man not to be jackass, but I am glad I am an all around sonic fan instead of being so against one thing over the other. I might prefer the 2000s era of sonic, but at this point, sonic is sonic to me if people wanna use one design over the other I do not care. Round belly, oval belly, they are both Sonic. I like Sonic.
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Pictured: That other Sonic
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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True. Everyone can agree that the Green Sonic with the cape is definitely a separate Sonic from the Sonic. Right?
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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Man i forget how consistantly great the sonic x comic was.
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It's amazing. It's a Sonic series that has nonstop fun and doesn't take itself too seriously.
It also has the single best Eggman.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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Anything with el gran gordo in it has the best eggman.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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If Shadow has to suck, I am glad the trade is the complete redemption of Silver. I love him so much in TSR and IDW.
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heh we all knew but that was to be expected. shame about the writers losing the battle, but who cares, she gay.
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Sorry I meant "who cares" in the way of the "kiss needed to happen to make it canon" excuse, but when the writers themselves say they wants to put it in, to me that means it is canon that Lara is in love with Sam.
It was a bad choice of word but I was worked up about the many people who said "but is not canon cuz it didn't happen".
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SEGA missing that JSRF money.
Like I get that JSR is as clunky as Shenmue, but JSRF by just looking at it it looks MILES better gameplay wise. COME ON SEGA TAKE IT OFF THE XBOX.
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Nah with JSR that's the game people have played and is considered one of the best games on the dreamcast so I can understand their mindset with that. Now porting Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz as the testing grounds for a revival when that's the one people straight up hated instead of the first 2.....nah that was dumb
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JosepHenry and Misty Milo reacted to this
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When you do multiple surveys about game revivals, with JSR getting to the top or near the top, people consistently screaming at you whenever you post about JSR that you want JSRF, maybe, just maybe, you should stop looking at a decade old re-release and consider what people really want
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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What's that? You guys want another poorly emulated version of Sonic 1?
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Misty Milo reacted to this
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... Paper Mario Origami King is giving me more appreciation to ttyd and sonic forces
Ttyd cuz every npc has a name and role
Sonic forces cuz despite being shit the people who worked on it enjoyed what sonic is to begin with
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There's a reason why despite so many spiritual succesors of Sonic like Freedom Planet and Spark the Jester being made, we fans stuck with the original: It's still Sonic. It doesn't need a real replacement despite what some may beleive.
You know something's amidst when Paper Mario got replaced with it's mere first spritual succesor.
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JosepHenry reacted to this
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No matter what happens the main thing I want Sonic to retain, regardless of the quality, is considering itself and it’s past worth returning to and celebrating. Even if they do end up being garbage, if you can look back and give the likable parts of your legacy a solid thumbs up, you’re doing right by all the people who did end up enjoying those games, and that’s awesome.
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https://twitter.com/CalebArtBoy1/status/1277148418788425729?s=19
This is the cutest shit i ever seen