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  1. There are some who are against having humans at all and there are some who are against the photorealistic Final Fantasy-esque humans. Humans are okay, as long as they look like the ones from Unleashed.

    As for the question itself, many of those people grew playing the classic games (where storytelling/worldbuilding was minimal) or watching the SATAM cartoon (where Robotnik and Snivley were the only humans).


  2. 16 hours ago, MainJP said:

    Shadow isn't as strong as knuckles, though. Throwing a bus does not make him as strong as a guy who induces volcanic eruptions just by striking the ground hard enough.

    Have we actually ever seen Knuckles cause volcanic eruptions by punching the ground aside from the Sonic Boom opening?

    9 hours ago, Kuzu the Boloedge said:

    The entire point of the character is to be "Dark Sonic", which kind of necessitates he be as fast as him. 

    That would be a fair point, if ridiculous chaos powers weren't add on top of that. Shadow is (or at least was) basically a DBZ-esque character.


  3. 8 hours ago, Dr. Mechano said:

    You'll be happy to know those characters are already in the games! Witchcart (whom Wendy was based on) along with Bearenger, Falke, and Carrotia were the baddies of Tails Sky Patrol.

    So while unlikely, these are Sega characters and could potentially reappear - if Sega ever changes their mind about the embargo on certain classic characters anyway.

    Oh yeah! I totally forgot about Tails' Sky Patrol. If only they could appear in a modern game. And Team Hooligan, too. I wonder what would happen if they were to collide. Bark and Bearenger could bear knuckle box.


  4. Decisions, decisions, decisions. So many to list, but I'll keep it concise.

    • Archie's story arcs (Post-SGW)
    • More independent females i.e. Tangle
    • Not having Sonic be the Goku of the series (What I loved most about Archie is that it allowed other characters to have their moments to shine)
    • Tension/adversity that feels natural
    • One world where humans and mobians coexist
    • More character interaction
    • Bean and Bark appearing as antagonists alongside Fang (cause I can't see them any other way)
    • Fleetway Sonic or Dark Sonic
    • Tiara Boobowski (I know. This is a scrapped concept rather than different continuity but I couldn't resist)
    • Mammoth Mogul (Yes!)
    • Ixis/Walter Naugus
    • Wendy Naugus and her witchcarters
    • The eclipse saga

    There's more, but I wanted to keep this as short as possible.


  5. 1 hour ago, Nintenboi said:

    Got some more weird Sonic art.

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    This was from Sega World Sydney.

    A trend that I've noticed with Sega World Sydney Sonic stuff is that they give him blue arms.

    They even did it with the mascot costume:

    The blue arms in this particular artwork makes Sonic look like he has on sleeves.

     


  6. 2 hours ago, knuckles20 said:

    You can never convince me that the non-Sonic characters can’t be independent heroes kicking ass. Because I’ve seen what they’re capable of in previous games and the comics and to reduce them to helpless infants who can’t do anything without Sonic is just irritating. 

    This is basically what I'm trying to get at. In past games (mainly the Sonic Adventure series), the supporting cast were capable and competent, but not in a way that drew attention away from Sonic.


  7. 44 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

    I think too often people write off the contributions of characters just because they aren't as flashy or narratively impactful or centered in the story's focus as what Sonic does. The resistance in Forces doesn't win the war on their own but they're responsible for or integral to inspiring and supplying the avatar, breaking Sonic out of space jail, and holding back the army of villain copies while the playable characters do their business. They don't just sit around helplessly all game.

    Fair enough.


  8. 7 minutes ago, G-Force said:

    I mean, it's not even a question.  Sonic's friends shouldn't be defenseless without him.

    I know. It's just that in the past, I've read posts from people who justify the "defenselessness" with the "eponymous character" notion, claiming that Sonic is the titular character and that any feats from another less important character would shift attention from Sonic to said character. I probably should've used a different title.


  9. With Sonic Force coming close to its 2nd Anniversary, I thought I'd go on a friendly rant about what irked me the most about the game: Sonic's friends being shown as defenseless or incompetent without him around. Yes, I know Sonic is the titular character and he is ultimately the one who saves the day, however, that shouldn't come at the expense of other characters' competence. In Forces we have Vector mentioning how without Sonic there is no hope, Knuckles failing a raid or something (only mentioned IIRC), Silver getting thrashed by Infinite (though in his defense, Sonic did too), and last but not least, Tails cowering before Chaos 0 (when he defeated Chaos 4) and crying for Sonic to save him. So, we're really just making the other characters defenseless now, Sega? Not surprising, considering the series has become like DBZ in the fact that characters such as Knuckles, Tails, etc. have taken a backseat while Sonic, Shadow, and Silver hog (no pun intended) all the glory. Now that I think about it, the only one's who directly fought Infinite were Sonic, Shadow, and Silver. The others just fought a bunch of clones.


  10. On 11/24/2017 at 8:09 PM, MainJP said:

    These designs are all 100 times better than the ones in-game. The side mouth and shorter bodies really help.

    Agreed. However, I do have one problem. The Sonic body shapes. I understand that would require more animation and designs, but an anthropomorphic dragon, gorilla, horse, deer, cow, or bear should not share the scrawny 3'3 body type. They should at least be the size of Vector.


  11. Unpopular: Classic and modern timelines now being "separate universes/dimensions" makes a tad bit of sense, and I say that cautiously, only if chaos emeralds are involved (we haven't seen those in a while). With their infinite power, they should be capable of allowing interdimensional travel. Also, aren't the special stages in the Classic era different dimensions anyway? If so, dimension hopping should be nothing new.


  12. 6 hours ago, Conquering Storm’s Servant said:

    How??

    If anything, Sonic X fits that far more than SATam, and that’s not saying much either.

    Setting wise of course, as well as character design. Instead of the checkerboard style settings from the games, we got Knothole. And since Sonic is blue, he stuck out like a sore thumb among the cast, who all have the colors of their real life species (excluding Rotor).


  13. I've only really seen like...four of the animated Sonic television shows so I'll just stick to those four.

    Satam- Despite trying to be serious is actually quite lackluster compared to the games. Whereas the games feel surreal and sort of alien, Satam is just too realistic and there is nothing special about the world/setting.

    Sonic X- Liked it as a kid, but eventually grew to hate it when I got older. I loathed how they treated the characters. Knuckles was a bonehead, Amy was basically Chi-chi from DBZ, we're not even gonna talk about Chris, and last but not least, Sonic. Never took anything seriously before the Metarex saga. I really hated how other characters basically couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag until Sonic shows up (this seems to have carried over into the games as well *cough* Forces *cough*) just for the sake of some type of cool entrance. Too much filler, unnecessary characters, etc. I remember when I first saw this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7AqlIp5evA

    ...and then compared it to what we got.

    Sonic Boom- Actually not that bad. Could use some more development of characters. I just don't like how it gave in to the notion that Knuckles is some bumbling idiot who couldn't think his way out of a cardboard box. I love what they did with Amy, though and Sticks is... interesting.

    Sonic Underground-  *throws up in mouth* Horrible! Moving on.

     

    As for the new series, I am interested to see how they develop the characters and utilize them to their full potential. I am also excited to see the settings incorporated in the series. I hope to god, it does not revolve around classic sonic. We've been seeing to much of him. It's just nostalgia pandering at this point.

     

     


  14. The "obscure" characters from the Classic era are in the main universe, but don't appear for the following reasons:

    • Because Fang is a wanted criminal, he believes that if he is in a popular game, someone will recognize him and call the authorities. He's keeping a low profile.
    • Bean is deemed to be too crazy to appear in anything and might cause unnecessary problems (such as trying to make himself the main star as well as threatening everyone with bombs), so he is kept in an institution.
    • Bark doesn't enjoy the publicity and will punch anyone who comes near him with a camera.
    • Mighty and Ray are camera shy and prefer to not even be mentioned.

    • Terminate that "two worlds" shit. Is it really that hard to have the anthro and human population exist in one world? Haven't they watched Looney Tunes?
    • Not base it on the games continuity. I feel like Sonic X could've been the next Satam, just with the game chracters (even obscure ones) instead. I would keep the game characters but not base it solely off the games.
    • No sagas (I'm looking at you Metarex). Yeah the Metarex saga was kinda cool and all but I feel that sagas wouldn't work just because they just drag on and that's how you get filler episodes.

  15. Back in 2006, Sega released Sonic 06. We all know that in that game, the male hedgehogs were basically the Saiyans of the franchise. Sonic, being the main character, always gets the best feats. Shadow has a lot of feats under his belt, and Silver does have a somewhat fair amount, but what about the other characters who aren't male hedgehogs? I know Knuckles has some gameplay feats but outside of that I have yet to see anything impressive in the cutscenes. What feats do other characters have?


  16. On 4/19/2019 at 1:37 PM, Skull Leader said:

    Tails, Amy and Knuckles. And for different reasons.

    Tails: I feel Tails is largely limited because of how the whole "Sonic's best friend" thing eclipsed everything about him (similar to Amy's crush for Sonic in the 2000's) to the point that right now, Tails is more a role than a character. He is no longer the kid that wants to be like Sonic, neither is he allowed to branch out into becoming his own thing nor interacts with anyone unless it is a Sonic because of the rather extremist interpretation from ST of what his role is, which apparently consists on being someone who only exists so that Sonic has someone to talk to. Frankly, this is not what we were shown in Sonic Adventure where Tails goes on a quest of character growth where he realizes that he can achieve heroic deeds on his own, something that in no moment goes against him being Sonic's lil bro nor most trusted friend, which is why his entire character regression is just utter non-sense.

    Amy: Out of the three, I think Amy had the most potential and versatility as she is much more independent than Tails while still being a team player and on top, is making her very own path as a hero instead of following a mentor figure. However, the fact that she was not introduced in the Genesis trilogy seems to be a things that stills haunts her to this very day, and which has been used as excuse to ignore/overlook her in games/stories where her participation is painfully obvious (often in favor of the S3&K trio pandering). How can this character continue to grow as a heroine if she is constantly pushed to the sidelines in such an unfair manner?

    Knuckles: I stay by my words when I said that Knuckles entire character was wasted the moment ST brute-forced him as a friend of Sonic, since not only is there no build-up to this change, but also puts Knuckles in a position where he can't do what he was created for: rival Sonic. I think Knuckles is to Sonic what Daffy is to Bugs: a character who wants to prove to be better than the more popular and favored protagonist, and with good reason since Knuckles' pride was greatly hurt during the events of S3&K and while he is smart enough to recognize that Sonic is not a bad guy by any stretch, he probably feels jealous and sees in besting Sonic as the better hero his chance to heal his pride. Sadly, all ST seems to see him as is just for nostalgia bait, which I feel is such a disservice to this character.

    As for how to rectify this, it's all about giving each character their own rightful place and stick with it.

    The most recent example is Forces, where the theme of "even heroes need help" is central, and a very obvious opportunity for these characters to be made justice and shine. Instead the focus went to the "Rookie", a bloody blank slate that can barely be called a character as well as Classic Sonic, who feels shoehorned as fuck just so his game style can be used as filler.

    In this game, Tails is turned into a useless coward, Amy is just there and Knuckles is made commander or something against all logic. In fact, all three characters are handled in such a dumbass way that doesn't even start to make any sense...

    Tails just fucking stood there with his discount Ipad instead of helping Sonic fight against the combined forces of Eggman, Kylo Ren and copies from previous villains that ganged up on the hedgehog. And even if they got separated, he would still try to do something about it like joining forces with the others instead of praying to heavens for a Sonic to drop by to make him believe that there is hope.

    Amy should had taken more innitiative, from being the leader of the Resistance (thank you IDW for showing who really led) to even rescuing Sonic herself, much like in SA2 and maybe even try to reason with Kylo Ren (and discover that sometimes, there are those who don't want to be saved from themselves)

    Knuckles should had been better used... I dunno, like at first him wanting to stay neutral in all this mess, but eventually being brought to reason by Tails and Amy who convince that once Eggman takes over the world, he'll go after angel island next. Knux would not only join the fight, but offer shelter to the civvies on his floating island (the one place Eggman would have a really though time trying to conquer) and as they fight for a common cause, Knuckles would realize the true reason he guards the ME in the innocent lives that depend on it not being taken for Eggman's ambitions, especially after seeing them too fight to keep this from happening, and once the battle is won, find himself receiving the gratitude and admiration he long wished to experience, knowing he finally bested Sonic.

    If the characters are not used in ways that fit their roles and provide something to reward their fans, then they're not being used to their potential... They're just being wasted.

    I couldn't have said it better myself.

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