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    StaticMania got a reaction from CrownSlayer’s Shadow in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    This isn't ironic...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Silvereyes in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    This isn't ironic...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    If he's not fighting every time there's a threat to stop, it doesn't matter is basically all I'm getting from this...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Razule in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    If he's not fighting every time there's a threat to stop, it doesn't matter is basically all I'm getting from this...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from SBR2 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    If he's not fighting every time there's a threat to stop, it doesn't matter is basically all I'm getting from this...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from thumbs13 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    If he's not fighting every time there's a threat to stop, it doesn't matter is basically all I'm getting from this...
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    StaticMania reacted to Stay at Home Ultima in Sonic Channel   
    July's wallpaper is Cream!
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    StaticMania got a reaction from TransPirate in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Two Worlds means no humans, but since there have only ever been...6 actual human "characters" in this series, it means absolutely nothing that humans can't be used in this comic series.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Legendary Emerald in Weird Official Sonic Art   
    That's not a corndog...
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    StaticMania got a reaction from RadicalLaRuby in Paper Mario: The Origami King   
    It was called paper Mario in English because they were just flat.
    It's now called paper Mario all over because...they are actually meant to be paper now.
    Acknowledging themselves in universe as being made of paper is clearly an issue with the writing's "self awareness".
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    StaticMania got a reaction from thumbs13 in Popular and unpopular Sonic opinions you agree and disagree with!   
    Yeah, at that point they won.
    No need to keep rebuilding and rescuing people.
    Right?
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    StaticMania got a reaction from DabigRG in Popular and unpopular Sonic opinions you agree and disagree with!   
    Yeah, at that point they won.
    No need to keep rebuilding and rescuing people.
    Right?
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    StaticMania got a reaction from SBR2 in Was Amy ever THAT bad?   
    I'm all for this line of thinking when people aren't actually addressing what they dislike about a character.
    It's a good thing to do. Do it more.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from SBR2 in Was Amy ever THAT bad?   
    No one's ignoring the context of those scenes, Amy's goal/contrived reasoning just is the most disliked.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from DabigRG in Was Amy ever THAT bad?   
    No one's ignoring the context of those scenes, Amy's goal/contrived reasoning just is the most disliked.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Blacklightning in Sonic Adventure 2, Style, and Scoring.   
    All that means is that time score is capped so that it's not the only thing that matters...
    Which is a problem the other games run into.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from DabigRG in Was Amy ever THAT bad?   
    Cream becoming a super hero who resents how weak the rest of the world is...is just ripe parody material.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from RadicalLaRuby in How old is Sonic?   
    His bio age is 15.
    Any person who says otherwise is wrong, like thinking Amy is 14 or Tails is 11...
    Just random numbers that they got off the internet from other people who also didn't actually know.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Cayenne in Paper Mario: The Origami King   
    They aren't.
    The standardization Mario was going through has been pretty non-existent recently and Paper Mario's direction is only happening due to its current director.
    But...leniency is never gonna happen again.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from batson in How old is Sonic?   
    His bio age is 15.
    Any person who says otherwise is wrong, like thinking Amy is 14 or Tails is 11...
    Just random numbers that they got off the internet from other people who also didn't actually know.
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    StaticMania reacted to Sonic Fan J in Popular and unpopular Sonic opinions you agree and disagree with!   
    So to start off what you are describing here is a reset, not a static character. Resets are typically things that happen in most long running narratives, and usually to adapt to the story to the times. A static character does in fact, not change. that's kind of why people complain about it with Sonic despite his static nature being a point of reference to show how the rest of the world changes. It's a problem that stems from investing in Sonic as a person when he is typically presented as larger than life. Nothing wrong with that, but it will create a lot of disappointment.
    And now you are talking out of context. The zombot situation did not exist when Shadow wanted to off Eggman. Sonic saw Mr. Tinker. He did not see the future calamity that Shadow's actions would have solved. He saw an innocent man who he believed deserved the right to try and live what life he had in peace. So when you say he was dealing with the zombot scenario Eggman hadn't even engaged that plan yet as Eggman's psyche and memories were not present in his conscious mind and that is what Sonic was responding too. Hence why I say Sonic lives in the moment, and he is described as a shortsighted character so it really shouldn't be a surprise that he does.
    What you are advocating as the solution to future problems is kill an innocent man who happens to share the same body as that of the madman. But as the madman was not present, Sonic chose to protect the innocent man as befits his sense of right and wrong. He acted on his personal justice as he typically does.
    And sure, Eggman is the long term problem but that isn't how Sonic thinks. He thinks in the moment and the moment only. The problem he was faced with Eggman was letting an innocent man be killed because he shared the same body as a villain. Sonic acted on his sense of justice and prevented that murder.
    And regretting things isn't in Sonic's character. It's taking actions when something does happen based on his values which you seem to be ignoring in this entire debate. Sonic is an act on what he sees type of character. Not on what happened or what could happen, but what he sees happening. this is why I say you want to change him as you don't want him being like this. That is advocating for a change.
    Wanting to solve the problem is how Sonic reacts to mistakes or bad things happening. You are putting the story before the character and not considering at all how Sonic functions. That's why I said you want Sonic to dwell on it. But that isn't in Sonic's character. you want it to be and that is why you are frustrated with him. Something bad happened because of an action he took, but he didn't stop and think about it, which is part of his character to begin with. Sonic's reaction to a problem is to address it, not prevent it. he's very immature in that way and again, shortsighted. This is where Sonic being a static character becomes a problem if you are trying to tell the story from his point of view because him being a larger than life figure rather than a humanized character conflict here. It is rarely a good idea to tell the story from Sonic's point of view unless you are trying to establish his character so you know what to expect from him. As it turns out, you're appalled by him because he actually isn't the good-two-shoes you think he is. He's actually rather passive unless his sense of Justice is triggered. But just because you are appalled by that doesn't mean that basic story telling is being ignored. Respecting Sonic's character and telling the story based on that is what needs to happen and what Flynn actually has done regardless of execution. So no, I'm noyt ignoring basic story telling or saying Sonic should either, I'm saying Sonic's character has to be respected while writing the story and the two have to work together harmoniously. If the story being told doesn't work with Sonic's character and vice versa then it should not be an officially written story.
    But we are also talking about this in a vacuum now and not considering that with a static character, and one who only lives in the moment, it is important to make use of the supporting cast and the world itself to create pathos and disdain. This is where I would argue that too much of the cast has been being used and that Shadow was a waste and is even the actual problem narratively. If you remove Shadow from this whole mess then the question was never even presented. Further, asking it all when it does not fit the setting was a grave error on Ian Flynn in the first part. Yet, he still respected Sonic's character to write him as he would be in that situation. Shortsighted, in the moment, and not looking back at the past. the results speak for themselves and are actually required for the story to function at all. So when you accuse me of letting Sonic slide by basic story telling, to me you are talking a bout a character growth arc, which a static character like Sonic who has a flat arc will not have. As Sonic will not have a growth arc it is not basic story telling in regards to his character.
    Outside of Chaos flooding Station Square I have to disagree that Sonic causes death and destruction. typically he prevents most Eggman situations from being worse and that is what most people in universe see. Eggman is mucking things up and Sonic stops him before things get even worse. That's where most people consider him a hero. They look to him about as much as they do Batman to clean up afterwards. They don't expect him to partake in the clean up and he doesn't. But he did stop things from getting worse. And they expect him to do so again.
    Now for this situation we don't even know if anyone will even affiliate Sonic with it beyond those aware of the decision he made, which was made without knowing the future, and not looking back at the past as is true to his character. But it is a mess he's trying to clean up and failing miserably at. But even despite that he is trying and giving it everything he has to solve it. He isn't dwelling on it because that isn't like him. But this mess isn't even 100% on him. He didn't even instigate it. He protected an innocent. That did not create the mess. It allowed Starline to create the mess. Even if Rouge had not found Eggman Starline was still going to find him there, still restore his memory even without Metal Sonic, and Eggman still would have initiated the Metal Virus. Yet you are blaming Sonic for Starline's actions when Sonic had no interaction with him before Eggman was restored.
    And that's the thing, you say Sonic never cleans up his messes, but most of the messes in the games are not his. He's usually stopping other people's messes from getting worse. The biggest mess he is directly responsible for he solves, and that is in Unleashed when his compassion and shortsightedness got the planet split apart. But you know what Sonic did as soon as he knew there was a solution? He went and put the planet back together again. And even the zombot arc he keeps trying even appealing to Eggman to fix it. He's looking for a solution and trying to support possible solutions and coming up short. It's not from a lack of trying or not caring that he isn't succeeding, but the plot dictating that he doesn't.
    I would never expect Sonic to be a better hero because he is only a hero in the perspective of others based on the consequences of his involvement. And yeah, he isn't proactive. He doesn't try to stop things before the could happen. People do praise him as a hero because of what they experience. But Sonic does not call himself a hero. He allows bad things to happen unless he sees them about to happen and acts on his own sense of justice. I don't know how many times I have to say it, but Sonic is not a hero. Everything your saying makes him a horrible hero is because he isn't one. As you say, he's an asshole, and the only thing that keeps people from realizing that is that he is charming which makes him come across as cheeky instead of as a straight asshole. And that his actions do save people when he does get involved in a short term perspective is why people paint him a hero. Should he be considered one? depends on the situation. If his actions just saved your life and could have gotten him hurt or worse in the process more often than not you'd consider him a hero in that situation. And hat's all hero really is is someone who risks their life to protect the life of another. Sonic doesn't make a career out of that or try to be the Justice League, rather following  a live and let live mentality only acting when he sees something that triggers his sense of justice.
    So feel free to find that boring, but I actually find it refreshing and it keeps Sonic from becoming an authoritarian figure like Batman, the Justice League and SHIELD, and any other superhero force who forces their will and way of life onto everyone. As a character who represents  freedom, Sonic has to allow Eggman the chance to make the decision to be evil or not. And that again is respecting the character which I find to be very interesting. Seeing how Sonic's unchanging approach to life affects his world is extremely interesting to me and makes Sonic himself an extremely interesting and engaging story. That's why I advocate for seeing him adventuring and not fighting villains as it will show more of his character.
    Flaws also matter when they set the story in motion. A character who is clumsy can set a story in motion by not hanging up a phone properly causing an important phone call to be missed resulting in a full story where the character's clumsiness never needs to addressed or the character hit over the head with it. Saying they only matter in one instance is a very closedminded approach to the application and use of flaws in a narrative. Again you are describing and sticking solely to a growth arc which Sonic as a character will not have. And you keep using what happened after Sonic's action which is so vastly outside of the realm of anything any character knew was going to happen. The zombot arc does not matter. The argument Shadow had was Eggman hurts people so kill him. The argument Sonic had was Mr. Tinker is innocent, let him live his life. The Zombot Arc doesn't matter in that context of Sonic's decision just whether or not he believes Eggman will hurt people again. His character flaw being that he lives in the moment and is shortsighted doesn't see that looking at Mr. Tinker so he acts on what he sees. And acting on his sense of Justice does not make him a career hero at all. As you said, Shadow is a career hero, but Sonic is someone who acts on his own sense of Justice and would never allow someone who is fearful for their wellbeing and has done nothing wrong to be attacked. That goes against his values and does not require being a career hero. If you saw someone being bullied and stepped in would that make you a career hero? No, it just means you acted on your own sense of Justice which is exactly what Sonic did here.
    And this is a fully fundamental misunderstanding of having one's own sense of justice. Sonic did not want to be a hero. He saw an innocent man under attack and that triggered his sense of justice and he acted on it. He thought it was wrong and intervened. Saying he should have just left is ignoring an entire facet of Sonic's character which is his inability to ignore those who he sees in need. He saw Mr. Tinker in need and had to act on it because his sense of justice demanded it, not because he wanted to be a hero. Sonic is vain and an egotist, don't get me wrong there, bit he already knows he is viewed as a hero and plays it down in most cases because that isn't who he is. He's just a guy that loves adventure who also as t so happens can't ignore what he perceives as injustice that he is actively bearing witness too. That has nothing to do with heroics but is rather a different angle of Sonic's ego. And though it is a different angle of his ego, it also shows that he does care even when you try to dismiss it because he doesn't care in a big picture way like you think he and everyone else should. As it turns out though, not all characters are like that.
    Sonic won't criticize himself as that isn't in his character, and the world doesn't criticize him as it doesn't react to every detail of how he goes about doing what he does. Most of the world only notices what they perceive as the good he has done. Just like most people don't have a clue who Shadow is, most people react to Sonic based only on what they know. His friends trust him to save the day because that is their experience with him. The rest of the world only sees that he stops bigger messes from happening and helps out nigh everyone he meets with their problems. What you are advocating for is for the world to actually learn who he is as a person and the decisions that he makes and to punish him for it. The problem is, that actually won't happen because Sonic typically doesn't engage with people. For as outgoing as he is, he is very much an introvert who stays outside and away from everyone, putting on a show when he is present. And the funny thing about the show he puts on is it's one that inspires confidence and the desire to step up and give it your all. When you look at that it's little wonder people in universe and out  don't see the sociopathic world ender you do. If anything, most fan content of Shadow that I've seen calls Sonic out best, he is an idiot if anything who is really just skilled enough and caring enough to fudge his way through and get good enough results. It's honestly why Shadow and Knuckles are ideal foils to Sonic because they have the sense of duty that he lacks and are capable of calling him out on being the idiot that he is.
    And I'm afraid I disagree. Your entire argument has been that plot, the plot, the plot, and how it should be. You have yet to actual explore Sonic's use or the data available about him to actually look at why things happen the way they do and how Sonic gets offs scot-free. You call him a sociopath who will let the world burn despite the fact that the evidence against that is directly in front of you showing he wont. You say he doesn't care despite everything he does for people and the anger he feels when he does see people put in danger. You ignore every aspect of his character at every opportunity to sell him as sociopath more dangerous to the world than Infinite was, simply because he isn't a proactive hero when he never was to begin with. Your complete and total ignoring of his character for the plot, plot, plot, with no regard to how his character and the plot should work harmoniously. You ignore what his world sees of him and only go off what you see and say everyone else should feel the same. You demonstrate zero understanding of his character and then limit yourself to only seeing growth arcs as valid storytelling. When you do all of that I'm afraid I find it impossible to believe that you have any understanding of Sonic as a character. He flies right over you with every level of depth, nuance, and detail completely going unseen, simply because he doesn't have a growth arc. I'm sorry, but that isn't understanding the character at all.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in Paper Mario: The Origami King   
    They aren't.
    The standardization Mario was going through has been pretty non-existent recently and Paper Mario's direction is only happening due to its current director.
    But...leniency is never gonna happen again.
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    StaticMania got a reaction from Drisaac in Paper Mario: The Origami King   
    It was called paper Mario in English because they were just flat.
    It's now called paper Mario all over because...they are actually meant to be paper now.
    Acknowledging themselves in universe as being made of paper is clearly an issue with the writing's "self awareness".
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    StaticMania got a reaction from FFWF in Paper Mario: The Origami King   
    They aren't.
    The standardization Mario was going through has been pretty non-existent recently and Paper Mario's direction is only happening due to its current director.
    But...leniency is never gonna happen again.
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