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  1. Month_____Issue #______Sales [Additional sales]
  2. Sales estimates to comic shops for May have been released. The numbers in brackets are copies that shipped in May so those are probably the additional printings. Sonic the Hedgehog 2018 04______1______21362 [3331] 04______2______14684 [1804] 04______3______13779 [1589] 04______4______13225 [2027] 05______5______12561 A modest drop. Next month might be more interesting. #6 is the first month orders will have been done after those first issues came out in shops so retailers had a better idea of the demand for the book with it.
  3. Best selling ever is over stating it. It's within specific parameters: The best selling post-1996 to comic shops and ignoring Sonic Worlds Battle Unite #1. IDW #1 is outsold by a typical Archie issue when you factor in the latter's newsstand sales and subs. Boom had a larger than usual debut because it had four variant covers. Those have always given the books a boost in comic shops. It did. After #4 at 13K, the next IDW books are Star Wars Adventures #9 at 12K, TMNT #81 at 11K and My Little Pony #65 at 8K and TMNT's companion series, TMNT Universe #21 at 7K. It's way too early to make a comparison when Sonic only has a month of sales, but some data points: Most IDW books are selling in the 4K - 7K range. Star Wars Adventures #1 and TMNT Universe #1 started at 49K and 34K respectively before falling to where they are now.
  4. I agree. A drop larger than 2K for #5 would be both surprising and worrying. I do think within a few months sales will land just above Archie's upper range before settling into standard attrition, though. Sonic has just always had a ceiling in the direct market. Between that, the gentle freefall the book was in during its last year at Archie and these initial sales, I'm not convinced keeping everything the same except the publisher on the cover will change much. But's that's obviously a gut feeling guess. They're sales estimates to comic shops. So they don't actually reflect sales to print readers either, just what was shipped to shops.
  5. These are okay. Neither bad nor great. With all the promotion they were doing, I was expecting them to be higher. 30K debut, 20K for the weekly issues, trickling down from 15K to 8K over the first year. The Boom comparison doesn't entirely work due to the weekly release. The drops between IDW's #2 - 4 are relatively conservative because retailers ordered them all at the same time and they were collectively treated like Boom's #2 was. There's probably going to be a more substantial drop with #5. Print runs are determined from pre-orders. If #132 or whatever has pre-orders of 7500, you're going to print close to that. If #1 has pre-orders of 30500, you might go higher on the print run because you know a jumping on point like that will have re-order activity. Or you might still keep it close to the pre-order number and instead just do additional printings if the demand is there. This is why it's relatively easy to game the system and you've gotta take the whole "#X sold out!" with a grain of salt. An issue selling out could just mean "We successfully shipped every pre-order." These sales also don't include the additional printings. Those haven't shipped yet. I mean, this was a highly promoted reboot and #1. The biggest special event and milestone a comic can do. Also Sonic Worlds Battle Unite had 43K sales because it was included in one of those Loot Crate-like things.
  6. Given his popularity, I would be surprised if there hadn't been a discussion of him writing the new comic.
  7. That was never stressed by anyone because the opposite is true. Mega Drive didn't have subs or newsstand distribution and it was only sold through the direct market. plus whatever business it did through digital and the Archie shop. That's why the social media campaign for the book was centered around having fans pre-order it through their comic shop.
  8. No, it isn't. "This does not mark the end of Sonic in comics" means they want a new publisher for the comic, but it doesn't mean they've found/will find one.
  9. My point being that if another publisher picked up the license, an existing relationship with Archie would be irrelevant. There's no scenario where Archie would be involved.
  10. Archie doesn't have any ownership of TMNT Adventures. That's done through Nickelodeon and Mirage before them. When Archie did a trade back in 2009, they had to re-license the issues from Mirage. The same applies to Sonic, too. The rights for trades of old issues would be picked up through Sega without any involvement with Archie and would probably be included with the license for new issues. Although digital seems to be a different deal. Through all of this, Archie's Sonic section has never left Comixology.
  11. If Archie keeps the license, a relaunch will need to happen. Not necessarily a renumbering and/or a reboot, but they can't pick up where they left off and continue like nothing happened. Direct market sales were already going down in part because of the first hiatus. They'll have been gone for nearly a year in a medium built around creating habitual buyers. A lot of people were just broken of their Sonic buying habit and they won't be picking up new readers with part four of a flashback arc. If they don't return with something they can promote as a jumping on point for new and lapsed readers, something like Genesis, the book will have come back just to get cancelled. If a different publisher has picked up the license, no more subs and magazine/digest reprints. The book will live or die entirely by its direct market sales for better or worse.
  12. Ian didn't say anything about SDCC.
  13. This seems pretty straight forward. Jughead was quietly cancelled and #16 is the last issue. They don't have to mention that in solicitations. It was probably canned when there wasn't a boost from attaching Waid (and Flynn) to the book. For comparison, Ryan North's last issue sold 5864; Waid (and Flynn)'s first issue sold 5805. It looks like the same thing happened to Josie & the Pussycats which 1) wraps its current arc in August; 2) is missing from September; 3) is selling a little below Jughead. In the case of Betty & Veronica, #3 was Adam Hughes' last issue. That they're still offering subs could mean it's going to continue, either with #4 or a new #1, with a new creative team.
  14. Two of three books getting cut off mid-arc is more worst case scenario than I expected, but the nature of the comic meant a whimper was its inevitable ending. There was never a possibility of a planned narrative conclusion or a celebratory send-off. It was going to drop off into unprofitability and have a hastily thrown together wrap-up like Mega Man or Archie was going to lose the license and it was just going to stop.
  15. The Sonic books were Archie's lowest selling titles following the relaunch of the Archie books.* Not by a huge margin in some cases. Jughead was typically 2K ahead of Sonic. *Lowest selling monthlies. The sporadically shipping and quickly cancelled Black Circle books were usually 2 or 3K below Sonic.
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