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@Myst aside from the surplus of desperate nostalgia pandering to the vintage section of their fanbases, not much.

Happy 1-year anniversary to IDW Sonic!

Adventure 2 Battle Heroes Shadow Rush Rush Adventure Chronicles Riders Riders:Zero Gravity Unleashed *if we including mobile games, Forces: Speed Battle I would include the Advance games but I’d never played them but from what I’ve seen looks to be enjoyable. The reasons I like these games is due to the various characters, how they interact with each other and the rising tension that comes for the storylines.

Or it could have been handled better than what we got. So on another subject; I’m looking forward to when we get an antagonist that’s independent from Eggman with the occasional collaborations. My favorites from the Archie days were the Iron Queen and Breezie.

That’s not what I meant. I feel that if they were to emulate the games they would be so dependent on Sonic for everything. Like how Tails became inactive when Sonic was captured in Forces until Sonic #2 showed up. Despite when he watched Sonic “die” in Adventure 2 he steps up to the plate and faces Eggman head on.

The fact that they haven’t seen much action is one reason why I’m hesitant on the comics being “more like the games”.

At least they were able to handle themselves on their own with to a certain extent with stage bosses as opposed to sitting on their asses watching Sonic doing everything little thing for them.

Because it’s been established since Colors; anyone who isn’t Sonic are incapable of doing anything for themselves, despite being shown they’re capable enough prior to that.

I find the idea that “fans don’t know what they want” to be a huge lie. Because fans generally have a good idea about what they like about their favorite franchise. The issue comes from the expectation of the fandom’s desire to be strictly uniform with no variance. You pick out 10 random fans and ask them about what they like about Power Rangers or Star Trek there a good chance you’re gonna get 10 different answers. And I’m sure the same can be said about the people on this very forum when it comes to Sonic.

I also miss the 3D, and not the half and half crap we have now.

The only gameplay I'd consider crap is the super easy boost 2 win 2.5D that they try to pass off as 3D games. Really hard to say they would cave in prematurely when they have been pulling the bare minimum crap for 11 years. Also from my perspective the games are a bigger joke now than ever. The "3D" games spend half of the time in 2D sections. The storylines are so bland and uninteresting it makes stuff like Breadwinners look like Citizen Cane in comparison. Their big budget games that are supposedly worth $40 can be completed in less than a day. Eggman went from an actual threat to the heroes (I'm sorry HERO because apparently we can only care about one person in this damn series), to Bulk and Skull level of intimation. They never shut the hell up about the how "amazing" the Classic era is, whether it be from the deliberate bright imagery people thought represented that period or just putting Green Hill Zone at every opportunity. And Characters who has shown be able to step up to the challenge to fulfill their own goals, had all been regressed to spineless cheerleaders who can't anything without the title character.

@UpCDownCLeftCRightC We’ve discussed this many times with each other but it’s been over a decade since anyone but Sonic been playable in a 3D game, the games have become stale since Colors for me. I’ve been asking for for actual characters to be playable in the 3D games since being disappointed with Generation and I’m gonna keep asking for them because there’s nothing you or anyone else can say that’ll dissuade me.

For someone who views Forces as another solo-Sonic game, having Classic and the Fan Insert swapped for Tails and Knuckles or any pre-existing character that hasn’t been used in a long time would had change my stance on it. Sure the Shadow DLC is there, but it feels like a last minute thing they added on to soothe the people who were pissed off they got duped for actual characters being playable. Given how playthroughs I’ve seen gone through it in less than 20 minutes I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case. As for arguments saying “they need to take baby steps” or “they need to get Sonic right before bringing in anyone else”, I see it as a huge load of crap since this isn’t some indie company were talking about. Despite their recent years SEGA is still one of the big developers in the gaming industry and yet I’m suppose to believe they need more than a decade’s time how to make one character work in 3D. No I’m not buying it and we need to stop giving them that excuse because that grace period should had ended with Generations.

I don’t know which is more insulting. That countdown or having Classic Sonic show up right after the line “But even heroes need help” in the initial Forces trailer.

Why not? Colors and Generations exist, and those games show the issue I have with the current games. Anyone else involed has regressed from capable individuals who can take care of themselves into helpless civilians planted to stroke Sonic’s ego because god forbid fans care about anyone else but the blue hedgehog. Going back to why I think Classic Sonic as a character unnecessary, it fueled the aminosity between the Classic and Modern fandoms. As if we weren’t divided enough. That doesn’t mean I want CS to go away. I’m fine with the two co-existing as long as MS gets his own identity that isn’t bogged down by going back to his roots all the time and he stands on his own without interference from his retro counterpart.