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  1. I mean, his bio in Sonic Technical Files combined with his Sonic Jam guide bio says he's not a bad man but one who just wants to mechanize the world since he sees machines as beautiful while not realizing the harm he's doing (too childish and self-centered). Not hard to figure that he sees a Mecha Earth as a better Earth.
  2. The characters only speak of two worlds merging, not three. And Eggman himself calls Sonic's world HIS world. Backed by Eggman Nega calling Blaze's world HIS world.
  3. I'm also sure Sonic Team/Sega doesn't really want to acknowledge the lore in Adventure 2 (as in more than just throwing in Team Dark) since it doesn't really fit the direction of the franchise from Colors at the latest.
  4. Honestly, Riders is a weird game to try and fit in Current Sonic Lore. It was made at a time when Sonic didn't have the mandates they do now. We have obvious human presence on the same planet as bird aliens with environments like cities with flying cars in them. I'm sure under Current Sonic Rules all of the humans would have to be furries. Not just from the obvious Two-Worlds thing, but also how the games violate the idea that humans live on a "Real Earth" (as in, has the same countries, landmarks etc as here or at least obvious stand-in) with the fauna and building and overall style as much like here as possible while the furries live on some zany world with floating donuts.
  5. He also only launched the missile as a last resort. Eggman more than not isn't shown as reveling in pain and destruction. Like he's fine with killing, but only as a means to an end. He'd be just as fine with not killing if he can still get his way. Gerald on the other-hand not only blamed all of mankind for Maria's death but arranged for them to all die in despair. Not from just Shadow blowing up Earth with the Eclipse Cannon, he has to make the colony fall to Earth with the humans all watching it.
  6. The Riders games had to have happened on the Human World/Earth since G.U.N.'s in them and we see crowds of humans.
  7. re: Adventure 2. I'll doubt they're do more with Sonic Adventure 2 than the broad idea of Sonic having a doppelganger who frames him and works with Eggman. The first movie was careful to not vilify the US government/military since they had legit grounds not to trust Sonic, Eggman was abusing his power, lastly the general made it clear that they were both glad to see Eggman gone and that they suspected Sonic was being hidden in Green Hills by one of the locals (hence him poking around Tom and Maddy's house) but were leaving him be for now. Compare with G.U.N. who are much nastier in their intro game. The first movie also established that it happens on the Current Year Earth with the tech the same as here outside of Eggman's inventions. Meaning no space colonies since we certainly never achieved such today, let alone 50 years ago. No no, if we do get a Movie Adventure 2 I'm sure it'd just be Eggman or Stone or the US government cloning Sonic using one of his quills.
  8. https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Technical_Files Says he's supposed to be clever but just ignorant of the world outside his island: He is very clever and smart, but had lived his life in solitude and was not accustomed to dealing with characters from the outer world, much less such a cunning one as Dr. Robotnik. This is why he was easily deceived by Robotnik into thinking that Sonic was a bad guy trying to steal the Chaos Emeralds. This deception allowed Robotnik to pit Knuckles against Sonic as a powerful adversary.
  9. And Canon Sonic doesn't expect his enemies to change from his sheer niceness/crying or act notably merciful to them (in Erazor's case, condemning him to an eternal prison). If they're repentant then fine, if not then he'll at least beat them until they're just laying there like Metal. As this puts it: Metal Sonic: I shall become the ultimate overlord! Sonic: *cries* Be true to yourself! Metal Sonic: Okay nevermind, I’m good now. — Erazor: Yes, I manipulated and abused Shahra, and I have no remorse for any of it! Sonic: *cries* You’re beautiful! Erazor: Okay nevermind, I’m good now. — Black Doom: I have destroyed a city, and I am literally going to destroy humanity by letting my babies eat them all one by one. Shadow: *cries* I am all of me… Black Doom: Okay nevermind, I’m good now. — Sonic: Shadow!? Metal Sonic!? Zavok!? Chaos!? Infinite: Hello. I’m responsible for helping Eggman reduce this planet to a hellhole, and with my friends here, we’re gonna kill everyone that gets in our way. Sonic: *cries* All of Them: Okay nevermind- Eggman: STOP DOING THAT See also: https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/90862914314/if-sonic-had-to-kill-someone-to-save-the-world-do https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/157197588384/is-sonic-a-very-forgiving-character-i-do-think https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/172452884099/so-whats-the-difference-between-gamesonic https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/189476247194/yeah-honestly-seeing-sonic-be-merciless-towards It's a suitable conclusion of what Sonic's character is now supposed to be according to IDW. And he's never done such in the games. Be nice to someone like Merlina yeah, since she was repentant and already spent the game helping him (if only to use him as a pawn). Even in the OVA where Sonic tries to save Metal Sonic, Sonic knew that Metal rescued some of Sonic's friends with no prodding from Eggman. Canon Sonic isn't some "FRIENDSHIP FRIENDSHIP EVERYONE CAN CHANGE FORGIVE EVERYONE NO MATTER HOW THEY ACT" character, he's a punk teen who also happens to save the world from a fat scientist. >de-powered He was down for the count. Sonic didn't let him go flying away just so he could change one day whether you admit it or not.
  10. He left Eggman there to get blown up. Not saving him. Don't call them irrelevancies just from how you can't address what I'm saying. That machines like Metal Sonic do not actually "change" willy-nilly. And Metal's never shown such. Read the gallery. You can even see him as a baby: If he was Steven Universe like he's made out to be here now then he wouldn't have been on the offense.
  11. When did Game Sonic show he wants him to change or not blow him up whenever he can? Sonic Mania even has him leave Eggman inside his exploding base on the ground with no Eggmobile to escape in.
  12. Doesn't matter. He was down and out. Not flying away. And he made no demands for him to change since he's not Steven Universe. How can you get the idea that Canon Sonic is Steven Universe? Omega has never done anything to threaten Sonic, his friends, or the world to a notable amount. That's not what happened with Emerl (his original programming returned so Sonic had to kill him) or Gemerl (had to be beaten down and altered). Sonic doesn't show any demands for him to change either. And has blown him up enough times or let him get blown up enough times. He was much of one as Metal Sonic. His backstory established him as being made as a baby and so he aged, became king, and got corrupted. Sonic still agreed to kill him. He also charged at Merlina when she made no moves to attack him (making her actual attack self-defense).
  13. So? Sonic, in the games, is not yelling that everyone can change or letting obvious villains fly away for it. He's a punk teen hedgehog with attitude, not Jesus of Nazareth. Even in Heroes, he's not yelling that Metal Sonic can change just saying he's welcome to fight him again since he's a thrill seeker who digs a good challenge. Not the goodest good boy who ever gooded.
  14. And Metal Sonic is a killer robot who's shown no problem with both trying to kill Sonic and threatening others (including his friends) while also never showning anything like compassion or pity. Metal Sonic was knocked offline (hence his eyes going dark). Not hard for him to figure that he'd be accounted for one way or another if not by himself. Still didn't just let him fly away even after threatening his friend's home. Gamma needed the Flickie he was built around to reassert his personality/memories and Sonic was still about to finish him before Amy vouched for him. Omega is apparently just carrying out his programming to be the #1 Eggman Bot in an eccentric way. Metal has never been shown to be built around an animal and he's shown nothing like remorse or pity. And again, he's had plenty of time to leave Eggman but hasn't, meaning he either can't or won't. King Arthur. I don't recall Sonic going "EVERYONE CAN CHANGE" against Captain Whisker, Eggman Nega, Black Doom, etc. Name a single example where Sonic let an unrepent villain go (not knocked offline, not beaten and made to see the error of her ways like Merlina was) just so said villain can change one day. In-Character Sonic isn't supposed to be Jesus or Steven Universe.
  15. Since when did Sonic care about helping Metal Sonic or want him to change? Metal Sonic has had plenty of time to stop serving Eggman if he could but hasn't unless you count Heroes as that. Meaning he won't or can't. Again, in-character Sonic isn't some "FRIENDSHIP SOLVES EVERYTHING EVERYONE CAN CHANGE SO IMA LET THE JOKER BREAK OUTTA GOTHAM TO EAT A KINDERGARTEN" parody you'd seen in Sonic Shorts. Even in Heroes he left Metal Sonic in Team Dark's custody and just said he could challenge him again. Show me in Heroes where Sonic just Metal Sonic fly away after he threatened one of his friend's home just so he could "Change" somehow (even though he's a machine, not a living being with free will). And Sonic repeatedly didn't show mercy to villains like Erazor and only acted how he did with Merlina since: A. He already befriended her. B. She was sincerely trying to do good. C. WAS REPENTANT. See: https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/616109239961812992/re-idw-sonic-i-think-the-big-problem-with-his https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/190041175329/it-shows-sonics-level-of-compassion-but-i-find https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/189476247194/yeah-honestly-seeing-sonic-be-merciless-towards https://greenyvertekins.tumblr.com/post/90862914314/if-sonic-had-to-kill-someone-to-save-the-world-do
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