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    PeterPancake reacted to Rabbitearsblog in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Glad you enjoyed the movie! I really enjoyed this movie too and I hope that the sequel will be just as good, if not better than this movie!
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    PeterPancake reacted to Rabbitearsblog in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I also think that Sonic and Tails won't get along with each other at first, due to Tails wanting Sonic to come back to their home planet and Sonic not wanting to go because he just made a home with Tom and Maddie.  I can see them slowly bonding with each other throughout the film as they start to realize that they have a lot in common.
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    PeterPancake reacted to CaptainRobo in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Oh wow! Iizuka just watch the movie on his birthday.:
     
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Dr Ryan in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sonic crossed 300m! Let's go blue blur!
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sonic crossed 300m! Let's go blue blur!
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from SonicLegends in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sonic crossed 300m! Let's go blue blur!
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    PeterPancake reacted to Wildcat in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Oh I really like the idea of needing the rings to stay transformed. We don’t know how many he had in the first but they were definitely limited.
    In the games it’s 1 ring per second but that can change since he can’t carry a bunch on him. Maybe 1 minute per ring. 10 rings equals 10 minutes. Another character could give him their last few if he’s about run out to create tension.
    Not sure about working around needing 7. I’d have to think about it.
     
     
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    PeterPancake reacted to Big Panda in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I got my hands on the official novelisation. First of all, the opening reveals a couple details about Longclaw and the echidnas that I don’t recall being in the movie:


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    PeterPancake got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sounds good! They played their cards right and now they gotta open up the Sonic universe 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Dr Ryan in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    There are several versions of Spider-Man, Batman, X-Men, Superman that all exist at the same time right now. Why can't Sonic have multiple versions as well? 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from PandaChao in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    There are several versions of Spider-Man, Batman, X-Men, Superman that all exist at the same time right now. Why can't Sonic have multiple versions as well? 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Jack at Home in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Am I the only one who'd prefer Metal over Shadow? I've seen a lot of Shadow posts but i think Metal has already been set up perfectly. I'm also partial to them mainly taking inspiration from the Genesis era but who knows. 
    I do think we should at least get Tails, Amy and Knuckles in Sonic 2 as they are the OG core 3
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    PeterPancake reacted to Dr. Detective Mike in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I just saw the Sonic movie and my mind is a massive jumble of things I want to talk about and say but I think the most important thing I need to get out is how happy I am that I was wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie from top to bottom and I feel jazzed about being Sonic fan today.
    This entire situation is something I've never heard of before and seeing it play out with my favorite series on the planet is quite the surreal experience
    After all the harsh things I had to say about the premise of the film (rightfully so considering how things started) about the direction they were taking, the general way things tend to go with video game movies, and the usual, expected way things tend to go for Sonic in general I was not looking forward to this movie. The last thing I wanted was another strike against Sonic's record on THIS huge a scale. The idea of Sonic baring his ass before everyone in a theatre off the heels of being promoted far more than anything that's been promoted recently thanks to a movie that started out looking as though it was going to be a disaster was worrisome to the nth degree. 
    When that original design came out, everything I feared felt as though it had been confirmed all at once and all I could do was laugh, seeing as how I had given up on the movie before the initial trailer was even released. The first thing that threw me for a loop was finding out how much mainstream attention that horrid design got. It was the first trigger in the pit of my soul that clued me into the fact that there was indeed a lot more people out there who loved Sonic than I thought. After seeing the movie I have no idea how this film could have even worked with that original design.
    However, even when the new trailer came out, I remained a bit cynical. Not as cynical as before as the way the internet was coming together to be POSITIVE about something eventually rubbed off on me and I started to have fun but I wasn't too certain that a design change meant that the movie itself was going to be anything fun. 
    However, the movie came out and for an entire week I looked at my subscription box on Youtube and saw thumbnails with people clearly happy as well as talk all over twitter about it having been a GOOD thing. Even still, I was skeptical. I was thinking it may have just been enjoyed by virtue of it being better than we thought it was going to be but I wasn't convinced the elements it had were going to jell.
    It did though. It works. As its own interpretation of Sonic the Hedgehog it actually works and it still kind of astonishes me.
    Sonic was endearing and charming as a character. The interpretation was significantly more on the younger side to sell some of the emotional bits a bit more but the very fact that there were emotional bits connected to him and his dilemma was something I'm not all too used to for him. At least, not in this manner. I did genuinely feel sad for him when he kept going on about wanting to do as much as he could on Earth before he had to leave for the lonely Mushroom planet. I do feel that the film's reliance on that cheap, sad piano music was a bit of a disservice though. The scenes could have sold themselves on just his expressions alone as far as I'm concerned. That isn't to say there weren't parts where he could be a bit annoying, because there were a few times, but it helps when the movie is able to both acknowledge and run with it when it does happen.
    Jim Robotnik was fantastic and I'd probably say he's the one who stole the movie had I not felt that it was a group effort between the four main characters. I will say that, out of the four of them, Robotnik was definitely the one that I enjoyed watching the most. I remember seeing the trailer and how much I was bothered by the dancing scene but seeing it in context and how surprisingly creative it was (especially the simulations of him running from things and pretending his head was bitten off by a dinosaur while his machine calibrated what it needed to do, literally just so he could have something to do while it did that) really charmed me. 
    I loved how they incorporated the "Eggman" thing into the movie. I honestly didn't expect them to even bother with it due to how Robotnik looked BUT because of the design of his robots (little flying eggs, which I didn't catch until Sonic literally said it) they managed to get the name in there. I also really like his look at the end of the film. Skinny Robotnik with the red suit and the crazy stache and bald head works shockingly well. A part of me almost doesn't want him to be fat just yet. 
    Then there were the characters I was certain I wouldn't give a shit about, Tom and Maddie. Naw, I really liked them too. Again, I'm not one for hatred against human characters in Sonic. I like the majority of the human characters in Sonic X after all, if only because of how wacky their personalities were. These two were just really fun and endearing people. I liked watching them interact and it was adorable how genuine their relationship felt. I also liked the sister that didn't like Tom. The line she had about telling her daughter to put on her walking device so she could cheat in some steps on it got me. And the adorable daughter who gave Sonic his first present. It's all so sweet.
    Honestly, the thing I was worried about the most was the dialogue and (for the most part) it was all done really well. Even the stuff that looked bad in the trailer was recontextualized or delivered in a manner that made it come off entirely different that I was cool with. The one line about Sonic saying he was doing things to protect his friends and Tom saying the same thing wasn't this awkward spew of overly done, hammy nonsense like the trailer made it seem like it was going to be. There was an actual conversation that led up to that point and the way the actors delivered their lines felt more natural in the movie than in the out of context clips I saw. This should be expected of any movie, but it's hard to see past that when you're expecting the movie to be garbage.
    Robotnik's lines were the best. Yes, some were hammy and over the top but Jim Carrey does it really well. "You just go back to being U(You)... seless" caught me off guard the most. They also got in a "Hell". Le Gasp!
    Despite enjoying it the whole way through, I think the final act was by far the strongest. It was chalk full of stuff I do kind of wish to see more of from the series. A nice emotional core balanced with a back and forth between the hero and villain that pushes both of them to having the upperhand at the appropriate moments. The freeze-frame fast movement thing Sonic does in the film was very much an overconfident kind of ability of his so it was really great seeing how when Robotnik finally pressed the button to utilize Sonic's quill energy so that he could move as fast as Sonic did Sonic's plan of pushing them off the roof turned into something that had a genuine danger spike to it. The race around the world was great and seeing Sonic get so thoroughly demolished until his inevitable come back made Robotnik's banishment a satisfying end. 
    Then there's the big thing that happened in the mid-credits that I was, unfortunately, spoiled on. It didn't take away from the moment of seeing it on the big screen though. I felt the giddiness of sheer happiness well up in my heart when I heard the voice accompanying the special surprise too. It was such a lovely treat and I'll cherish it even if there isn't a sequel. I'm REALLY interested in seeing how this particular meeting is going to go down though so I really hope there is one.
    I also thought that the predictable troupes would bother me a lot more but the more films I watch, the more I realize that the mere presence of these troupes matters a lot less than how the troupes are handled. If the way it was handled endears you than there's no point in complaining about their existence as far as your own personal enjoyment goes. It's perfectly fine to sometimes sit back and enjoy something wholesome and fun even if it isn't the most original thing out there. So long as it's not embarrassing and infuriating like Rise of Skywalker was, it doesn't have to be on the level of an Oscar movie or even Pixar film (when Pixar is good).
    As an interpretation of Sonic, it stands on its own well. I can't agree with any remark that says it isn't anything like a Sonic movie would or could be. There's so many different iterations of Sonic at this point. Like with Batman or anything else with a long shelf-life, when different people get their hands on it different things arise from it that are their own flavor of Sonic. Sonic Boom was more of a departure from traditional Sonic than this movie was. 
    More so than anything though, I'm just really happy I was proven wrong about this. Even though this movie isn't a masterpiece by any stretch, I can't help but look at this and consider what happened here a cosmic miracle. How the hell do you start out with such an intense amount of bad blood and so much going against you and turn it around THIS much to the point where not only is everyone enjoying it but it's a big enough success that it's opening weekend surpassed a Pokemon movie? I'm still kind of in shock. 
    I'm so happy. 
    I can't believe I'm saying this but I think this incredibly unlikely situation may have restored a bit of hope in me that it might actually be possible to fix what's going wrong with the main 3D games. At the very least, I don't think I'm as close minded to the possibility of it one day happening anymore. I've witnessed something that's truly one in a million here. It feels great that I can say that the Sonic movie was one of the good ones as far as video game movie adaptations go. I can't wait to get the Blu Ray for this.
    I love Sonic and I love being a Sonic fan. It's nice that there's a lot of stuff coming out to remind me of that despite my frustration with the 3D games. It just feels really awesome being a fan of Sonic.
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Am I the only one who'd prefer Metal over Shadow? I've seen a lot of Shadow posts but i think Metal has already been set up perfectly. I'm also partial to them mainly taking inspiration from the Genesis era but who knows. 
    I do think we should at least get Tails, Amy and Knuckles in Sonic 2 as they are the OG core 3
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from dbzfan7 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I'd argue Jason Griffith is the most iconic voice for Sonic. At least for my generation that grew up in the early to late 2000s. Craig Smith is relatively unremarkable as Sonic and he really sounds like Sonic going through a mid-life crisis trying to sound like a teenager
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Gabz Girl in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I wouldn't mind Schwartz replacing Smith as the offical voice actor of Sonic. He was a welcome refreshment and imo fits Sonic a lot better. 
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    PeterPancake reacted to CrownSlayer’s Shadow in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Okay, time out dude.
    This movie, from the very moment it was rumored, confirmed, and previewed, was anything but safe.

    It's very premise was risky—it’s a live action Sonic movie, basically outdoing Sonic 06 in realism. And given that comparison, it should have failed by that measure alone even with the redesign. The thought of a live action film of a series that had been struggling sounds like suicide for Sonic, yet against all odds and expectations, it succeeded.
    People aren’t onboard with an okay film. They’re onboard with a film that defied expecitations and became a hit despite everything in this franchise’s history telling people, and the fans especially, that this shouldn’t work. And more to that, they’re onboard with something out of this franchise actually doing well given its up and down history with success and failure.
    I’m not a fan of the direction this movie took, but I can appreciate that this movie shows that opinions and expectations aren’t set in stone, that it shows a high risk move that pulled off a decent reward, and that in spite of everything this franchise has been through better or worse that people still love Sonic even after years of being the butt of jokes.
    That’s not sometimes to take for granted.
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from UpCDownCLeftCRightC in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I wouldn't mind Schwartz replacing Smith as the offical voice actor of Sonic. He was a welcome refreshment and imo fits Sonic a lot better. 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from dbzfan7 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I wouldn't mind Schwartz replacing Smith as the offical voice actor of Sonic. He was a welcome refreshment and imo fits Sonic a lot better. 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Austroid in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I wouldn't mind Schwartz replacing Smith as the offical voice actor of Sonic. He was a welcome refreshment and imo fits Sonic a lot better. 
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    PeterPancake reacted to Steve993 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    So showing up in this forum again feels like a blast from the past. Been nearly 8 years since I posted my half assed and now pretty laughably bad looking attempts at a Sonic movie series back when one was said to be coming out but still uncertain. I sounded serious about my attempt but really it was my earliest attempt at fancasting and fan script ideas and while these days I only do such an idea if I think I've got a good one (and I hope by this point I've gotten better I'm my own worst critic but even if I wasn't my old ideas were pretty bad anyone could tell you) thinking back I do owe Sonic weirdly for getting me my start in attempting that kind of writing. Again looking back the plots and casting felt very of the times and generic and while I had a good laugh at my own expense tracking down the old post I think it's best to be left in the past.
     
    Now cut to 8 years later and I've had a few changes in life most of them not great: I did graduate from school but I don't have a job and am looking for one and my mom got sick and eventually died 2 years ago. Difficult times but still striving on. Which in some ways is something Sonic himself does and something I can learn from him which this film also sort of addresses as well. I didn't think 10 years after I first came up with ideas for Sonic movie which was when the MCU was still in it's infancy we would get a film let alone the fact that the film while not perfect turned out as good as it did was an achievement so seeing this come out in my lifetime is kind of a surreal but cool feeling that everyone else shares I'm sure. 
     
     
    The movie won't change hearts and minds but it was a fun time and is something that'll connect with audiences old and new plenty of kids and families have been enjoying this and I think are going to in the long run.
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from 188Eternal in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    The movie was AMAZING. Can't wait for Sonic 2 and 3! 
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    PeterPancake reacted to JezMM in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Yeah you've kind of only gone halfway with the "3D is expensive" logic.  With animation, every single unique element has to have some work put into it, nothing comes for free.  They didn't make a big open video game environment, they created geometry for the exact shots they had planned out, they lit those shots exactly for what the shots needed, etc.  You'd probably be surprised at what limitations there are to what they created under the hood.
    Plus, to be honest, people who aren't satisfied with the glimpse we got are probably those who never really cared for the live action angle in the first place.  No amount of time spent in Sonic's world would satisfy such people, they'd always want just a bit more, and it would only serve to delay the film's main identity as "Sonic on Earth". Spending more time before going to Earth would be really weird for the pacing, you'd have the in media res opening, then an introduction to Sonic's once normal life... then a bunch of stuff... then Sonic goes to earth, and then we have ANOTHER period of introduction as we now show you Sonic's current normal life and introduce the human cast too.  It'd just really clutter things up.  This movie isn't about Sonic in his own world - the film's pacing should embrace it.
    This is cool but I have to admit it felt like a no brainer to at least include a Crush 40 song on a radio in the background of a scene or something, a real shame that they didn't (though at least Friends showed up from Sonic Mania, I really wasn't expecting that).
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Razule in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Anyway, I'm thinking Metal Sonic is the logical progression to this movie. Hopefully we get Amy and Knuckles too, possibly the Death Egg? 
     
    My theater was PACKED and the audience applaued three separate times! Kids were running out of the theater acting like Sonic and people were quoting him. It makes me soooo happy! this is exactly what I wanted! Sonic is about to become the next Transformers for Paramount and I can't fucking wait for it!
    I'm ready for round 2 with the blue 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from CaptainRobo in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sounds good! They played their cards right and now they gotta open up the Sonic universe 
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