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    PeterPancake got a reaction from tailsBOOM! in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Here's the thing though - Paramount bought the Movie RIGHTS from Sega. That means they have a license to make Sonic movies. This is nothing like the Big Red Button situation (An inexperienced Studio developing a game that is still being published by Sega) This is not Sonic Boom we're talking about - this is a live action blockbuster adaption of the series that strives to become a major franchise not only for Sega but for Paramount as well. Sega has the most veto power but Paramount does too because legally they own the rights to make Sonic movies. They are the ones making it. A box-office bomb will have a very bad affect on their already declining box-office profits hence why they picked up the movie rights in the first place. 
     
    Sega wants to branch out, they have to have realized that going the route they've chosen to take with the Sonic film, certain elements will need to be reinvented to appeal to a wider audience.. Do you know why Bugs Bunny's design didn't change in Space Jam? Because that was the ENTIRE POINT of the movie. Cartoon characters co-existing with human beings. The point of humor; the gimmick was the absurdity of the concept. This movie isn't doing that. Sonic can NOT show up looking like Mickey Mouse's brother-in-law pulled straight out of the games if they want this movie to be more than a parody of the franchise like Space Jam or Sponge out of Water. His design won't necessarily be changed as drastically as the Bay Turtles or Transformers but it will need more than just realistic fur on the blue sections of his body. The only thing that will be necessary is keeping the key elements of his design intact.
     
    It's insane to think that the design aesthetic of the movie will look like this:

    If the movie tried to sell Sonic as a PG-13, action adventure film looking like that - NOBODY besides fans would even take the movie seriously. In fact, I'm willing to bet it would become a meme. There's a reason why the guys who made Fast & Furous, Deadpool and Battle Los Angeles are the ones behind this movie.
    And Marza is not doing the animation, Blur Studios is whom have a long history of working on blockbusters and realistic CG trailers for video games. 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Paramount also made this:
    And this 
    And this

    The Sponge out of Water film looked the way it did because it was PG-Rated film aimed strictly at 7-11 year old children much like a animated Sonic movie would be. Sonic isn't going to look like a CG model ripped out of the game and put into a movie like those examples. If this movie has any chance of being taken seriously by the GA, Sonic's design will inevitably require some changes to appeal to the Blockbuster crowd. Even Van admitted in the past that Sonic's design WILL change although not as radical as Bayturtles or Transformers. But it's going to change; it's just the nature of the beast. The examples you cited are what Sonic would look like in a Space Jam sequel not a PG-13 Action adventure adaptation of the Sonic franchise.
    My bet is Sonic gets more realistic textures (and not just on his fur like that pic), his cartoon-ish proportions get toned down and his shoes look more Alien - Like they did in Sonic Adventure 2. He will need to look like something that could feasibly exist biologically much like how Marvel Studios adapted Groot, Rocket, Thanos, Howard the Duck and other cartoony characters and it will need to look badass while not straying too far from the iconic image of Sonic which basically boils down to blue fur. quills, peach colored arms, muzzle and belly and green eyes. The aesthetics around those traits will probably be changed.
    Even in the new Power Rangers movie, the Rangers got a design update because the Sentai suits would have been laughed out of theaters:

     
    And Marza being involved does not dictate Sonic's design. The director will send a design patent out to different concept artists and they will have to collaborate with the director, producers, Sega AND Paramount  (the latter of whom who are actually making the movie in studio) to create Sonic's look. Blur is doing the animation and they've worked on live action films in the past.
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    The general audience that will make up 90%. Of the Box-office gross will have no knowledge of Sonic's "reputation" from past games like Boom, Forces or 06. Most people are going to be like "Oh wow, I played that game as a kid!" Exactly like the first Transformers movie, the Bayturtles, Smurfs movie etc. 
    And it's only cringey if you're going by the currrent games aimed strictly at 8 year olds (aka Forces, Colors, Generations etc) if you go back to the Sonic Adventure series, those games lend themselves EXTREMELY well to a blockbuster action films. Then there's Sonic Unleashed, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic X, SATAM, the Archie Comics all of which lend themselves well to live action, blockbuster material. Sonic is no different from the Ninja Turtles or the Transformers. If you look at the massive franchise potential of the series and Paramount's current situation- you'll see a clearer picture of why going the PG-13 action film route makes wayyy more sense than creating an animated film aimed squarely at children. Sonic can be a Sci-Fi franchise just like Marvel Films. The Mythology of Sonic being from Mobius/Dimension X and coming to Earth is so plainly layed out for the writers, it's insane. This can be really awesome if done right.
     
    I think you are all looking at this from too negative of a standpoint. If this movie is a success, it could breath new life into the franchise and make Sonic a global icon. Do you remember what happened when Transformers was a box-office smash? It rejuvenated the franchise, everybody had Transformers mania. New shows were being greenlit, animated movies were being made, new toylines, merch galore. If this movie does well - the same thing will happen with Sonic. Sequels galore will be a for sure thing 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Miragnarok in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    The general audience that will make up 90%. Of the Box-office gross will have no knowledge of Sonic's "reputation" from past games like Boom, Forces or 06. Most people are going to be like "Oh wow, I played that game as a kid!" Exactly like the first Transformers movie, the Bayturtles, Smurfs movie etc. 
    And it's only cringey if you're going by the currrent games aimed strictly at 8 year olds (aka Forces, Colors, Generations etc) if you go back to the Sonic Adventure series, those games lend themselves EXTREMELY well to a blockbuster action films. Then there's Sonic Unleashed, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic X, SATAM, the Archie Comics all of which lend themselves well to live action, blockbuster material. Sonic is no different from the Ninja Turtles or the Transformers. If you look at the massive franchise potential of the series and Paramount's current situation- you'll see a clearer picture of why going the PG-13 action film route makes wayyy more sense than creating an animated film aimed squarely at children. Sonic can be a Sci-Fi franchise just like Marvel Films. The Mythology of Sonic being from Mobius/Dimension X and coming to Earth is so plainly layed out for the writers, it's insane. This can be really awesome if done right.
     
    I think you are all looking at this from too negative of a standpoint. If this movie is a success, it could breath new life into the franchise and make Sonic a global icon. Do you remember what happened when Transformers was a box-office smash? It rejuvenated the franchise, everybody had Transformers mania. New shows were being greenlit, animated movies were being made, new toylines, merch galore. If this movie does well - the same thing will happen with Sonic. Sequels galore will be a for sure thing 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from GuyWithThePie in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It's most likely a placeholder logo like the Terminator one. And the road is there to represent Sonic running. Just glad this movie is actually happening this time, it's been almost 4 years since it was announced. Wonder if they'll show a sizzle reel/Proof of concept trailer at Cinemacon 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It's most likely a placeholder logo like the Terminator one. And the road is there to represent Sonic running. Just glad this movie is actually happening this time, it's been almost 4 years since it was announced. Wonder if they'll show a sizzle reel/Proof of concept trailer at Cinemacon 
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It' very possible that Junkie could do the score. He's really good friends with Tim Miller. Part of the reason he bowed out of doing Deadpool 2 was because of Tim.
    Junkie XL would be a HUGE get for this movie. His Deadpool score and Need For Speed would be a great template for Sonic. I could see him composing orchestra versions of classic Sonic music (i.e Green Hill Zone, Death Egg etc) 
    And yes, most MCU movies shoot in Atanta because the cost of filming is cheaper there. We should start getting casting news within the next few months.
    Really pulling for John Goodman as Eggman.  
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from Polkadi~☆ in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It' very possible that Junkie could do the score. He's really good friends with Tim Miller. Part of the reason he bowed out of doing Deadpool 2 was because of Tim.
    Junkie XL would be a HUGE get for this movie. His Deadpool score and Need For Speed would be a great template for Sonic. I could see him composing orchestra versions of classic Sonic music (i.e Green Hill Zone, Death Egg etc) 
    And yes, most MCU movies shoot in Atanta because the cost of filming is cheaper there. We should start getting casting news within the next few months.
    Really pulling for John Goodman as Eggman.  
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It' very possible that Junkie could do the score. He's really good friends with Tim Miller. Part of the reason he bowed out of doing Deadpool 2 was because of Tim.
    Junkie XL would be a HUGE get for this movie. His Deadpool score and Need For Speed would be a great template for Sonic. I could see him composing orchestra versions of classic Sonic music (i.e Green Hill Zone, Death Egg etc) 
    And yes, most MCU movies shoot in Atanta because the cost of filming is cheaper there. We should start getting casting news within the next few months.
    Really pulling for John Goodman as Eggman.  
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    PeterPancake got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I don't see Sonic getting a radical redesign onpar with the Bayformers - from G1 or Bay Turtles. But I do think he'll get a "Blockbuster" update. I.e Realistic fur texture on arms and muzzle, slightly toned down proportions. I could see them giving his shoes and gloves a slighty more high tech/sleeker alien design. General aesthetic modifications. A more blockbuster friendly design.
     
    Tails I could see getting more techy: 
    Also these propotions for the characters
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