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  1. Tarnish

    Well, thank you mods for not even being able to answer basic Yes/No questions and ignoring every point I made. Really useful to have you around.

    1. Sean

      Sean

      please stop

      edit: actually I changed my mind bye

    2. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      And this, folks, is why when we say "go to the admins if you have an issue" you should actually do it instead of making a fucking spectacle.

    3. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      but the diss track 😿

  2. Tarnish

    @Blacklightning @Celestia @Diz @Kiah @Legosi (Tani Coyote) @Patticus @Pawn @Remy @Sean @Strickerx5 @Tara @Zaysho

    I'd just like the moderation team to clear up some things for me:

    1: Are the 'Guidelines' and 'Registration Terms' equally applied to ALL users?

    2: Do moderators still have to abide by the rules in said 'Guidelines' and 'Registration Terms', or are they above them?

    Genuine questions, because there are quite a few things on this site that suggests the answer to both of these are 'No'.

    Let's look at for example my 1 week suspension. These are the posts that were deemed to be against the rules:
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    My posts were:
    - In a calm tone
    - Snarky at best
    - Only a mild criticizm of exaggeration that shouldn't have garnered more than a 'Politician bending the truth? What else is new?' comment or two
    - Based on proven facts:
          - AOC was not in direct danger, since turns out she was in a different building than the rioters that wasn't breached, and was soon evacuated (being afraid doesn't mean you're near to death)
          - it's pretty safe to assume it's safer being in the vicinity of a riot than being in the middle of it
          - Marcello is clearly not exactly a fan of Trump, based on his own posts, so you can't even say I just assumed what I told him

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    And this was the response from one of the mods:

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    His post is:
    - Right off the bat started by him admitting holding a personal grudge/resentment from months ago regarding a totally unrelated topic, a topic which I already long forgot about (and held no grudge against him)
    - Agressive and insulting in tone
    - Goes into personal insults multiple times
    - Goes on a tangent when what my whole argument came down to is: Which is safer: being in a separate building from where a riot is happening, or being in the middle of the riot?

    Then there was the message about the suspension:

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    Where he:
    - Claims I said, and I quote "saying death threats againt someone aren't a big deal"...which I not only never said in those posts I was suspended for, I never said on this site, if ever at all. Not only have I never said that, I never implied it, and it absolutely boggles my mind how can someone read a snarky comment implying a politician exaggerated and come to the conclusion that means "death threats againt someone aren't a big deal"

    - Threatens to "personally call the FBI" and give them my IP address...For what exactly? Not believing everything a politician says when evidence suggests otherwise? For mild criticism/a snarky comment? With that logic, I could just as easily make the case that Tornado's comment towards me was online harrassment.

    - Says my suspension was for "Abusive Behaviour". What was exactly abusive about it? And abusive against who?

    Let's look at what the actual rules say, shall we?

    Registration Terms

    Forum Terms & Rules

    Please take a moment to review these rules detailed below. If you agree with them and wish to proceed with the registration, simply click the "Register" button below. To cancel this registration, simply hit the 'back' button on your browser.

    Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message.

    The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this bulletin board. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.

    You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

    You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this bulletin board.

    Guidelines

    Welcome to the SSMB Rules, these rules and guidelines will help the forum run nice and smooth and all that shizzle, so make sure you read and follow them, yeah? Note that these rules also apply everywhere on the board, so that includes status updates.

    • One account per member. If you make multiple accounts you won't be respected for it. You will also be banned by the staff. If you are making another account to evade a ban your chances of ever being allowed back will rapidly diminish like a weed in the face of Roundup®.
    • Post quality is important for your reputation and the reading pleasure of other members. Type in understandable, decent English. Be sure to check your grammar and punctuation so people don't think you're an idiot. If you can't think of anything to post that's at least a sentence then we'd rather you didn't post at all. Making a post that's just one word is really lame and we'll strike you if you do it.
    • Spamming will put you on the staff shit list and will ensure a swift trip to banville. The staff care about SSMB, you know, so if you spam it with image macros, videos and other idiotic messages you will end up striked very quickly. Then banned if you don't quit it. This also includes acting like a moderator yourself and posting in bad topics about the fact that it will end up being locked. 
    • Trolling is done by terrible people. If you see trolling make sure you report it to staff. If you troll someone yourself by deliberately trying to make them angry or upset, you're not welcome here. There are other places online if you want to tease others like a preschooler. The staff have a zero tolerance policy towards trolling. You will be banned for it.
    • Make meaningful topics. Before you make a topic, search the forum to see if someone already beat you to it. Put some effort into your topic so other people are more likely to want to respond in it. Forum game threads, request threads and list threads are prone to spam so don't go making any of those bloody things. Also, please don't make advertising topics; if you want to get attention for something, put it in your signature.
    • Feel free to be friendly and understanding towards other members. Because it's awesome. It's great when people aren't ignorant (like refusing to acknowledge when you've lost an argument), stirring drama or flaming other members. It's also great when people use the report button for bad posts and topics instead of publicly being hostile to someone else. If you see rules being broken then report it, don't address it yourself; it makes the forum look like a horrible place to hang out and it makes you look like a douchebag as well. 
    • No adult material. If you post porn or highly offensive content you will be out of here quicker than rabbits can go at it.
    • Banned means Banned. Trying to evade bans or getting others to post on your behalf will never be welcomed by the staff. Be an adult, if you've behaved crappily enough to get banned then take it on the chin and stay away. 
    • Don't make everyone's eyes bleed. Follow signature limits. Signature limitation rules are there for everyone, to make SSMB a nicer place to read and a better place to browse. Your signature and avatar should not exceed 400kb combined. Your signature should not stretch the page. Your signature should not be higher than 600 pixels. People want to scroll through forum posts, not your huge sig.
    • Be nice to the staff. Staff give up their free time to run the forums, so if you treat them like crap it will not end well for you. Use your head.

     

    "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."

    Tornado's comment definitely ticks a LOT of those boxes: vulgar, hateful, obscene, threatening, knowingly false/defamatory (since I never said what he claims I said).

    Does implying AOC exaggerated fall into the "knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate" category? If it does, then so do these:

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    Implies/Claims someone is insane.

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    Calls people "fucking stupid" based on a political candidate.

     

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    Implies/Claims Trump belongs in Russia, another user claims he'll "run Amecica into the ground."

    Or how about one that definitely goes into the 'hateful' and 'obscene' category?

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    Had way more, but couldn't fit them all in this post. But it's easy to see that Tornado's comment was way more vile and all of these posts go against at least 1 rule, but none of them recieved even a warning, let alone a ban and getting locked.

    I can already hear the "OMG, you're gonna defend Trump?!" posts. Well, the rules NEVER state or imply there is an exception to them. If the rules are not applied equally, what is the point to having them? Or at least state there is a heavy bias going on. Or just not allow politics at all.

    I'm well aware I'm probably gonna get banned for daring to say all this, but if I feel I've been mistreated, I'm not just gonna be quiet about it, and if THIS is how this site is run, I'd rather not be on it anyway.

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    1. Tracker_TD

      Tracker_TD

      Image result for cope sonic

    2. DanJ86

      DanJ86

      Pardon my interference. I thought I should suggest that perhaps this matter would be better discussed in a PM with the mods or admins?

    3. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Maybe instead of being a prima donna trying to get attention you either take the L and reflect or go directly to the admins. 

    4. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      I believe @Tornado's ban message for you made it quite clear as to why you had a week suspension. You were spreading lies and being snarky about real life deadly events. When actual evidence was brought to you, you dismissed it and wheeled back into a “whatabout” stance which both verifies you knew what happened at the capital was horrific for the political figures stuck there and that you simply don’t care due to the people it was against. I’ll admit that this isn’t reflected directly in the forum guidelines because, quite frankly, I don’t think anyone in their right minds would’ve thought that needed to be said on a Sonic forum when they were written years ago.

      The notion that you spent the last week thinking up this shit show of a status instead of reflecting is staggeringly stupid. You expected to make some great point about how unfair the staff here are to certain political views when you A. don’t know shit about us and B. can’t even be bothered to do some fucking research outside of, again, a god damn Sonic forum. If you truly believed that your post was nothing more than a snarky retort then I fail to see why you’d stand behind it so adamantly. Especially when you’re not even from here.

      And that’s all without even going into how we have taken action against members on the completely opposite end for also spouting bs. So even your cherrypicked plater of statuses is tainted. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since that’s what your guy Donny is known for doing but jfc.

    5. Remy

      Remy

      Can you rephrase this status in the form of a diss track?

       

      Last time someone tagged me in something like this it was a diss track.

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  10. Tarnish

    Only a politician can have a 'near death experience' while not even being close to the people who are supposed to harm her.

    1. Marcello

      Marcello

      Oh, fuck right off with this disingenuous bullshit.

    2. Tarnish

      Tarnish

      @Marcello Bet you would quickly change your tune if it was Trump claiming the exact same thing and it turned out to be a lie.

    3. Nix

      Nix

      *everyone gets evacuated from a building because terrorists wanted to kill them*

      "their lives were never in danger"

    4. Sapphirine Wind

      Sapphirine Wind

      https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9953835664

    5. Tarnish

      Tarnish

      I just wonder who had a more genuine 'near death experience'. AOC, who was in a building that wasn't even breached by the rioters, or the police officers and everyday citizens who had to deal with the BLM riots over the summer.

    6. Sapphirine Wind

      Sapphirine Wind

      Did you even read my link, or are you happy being misinformed to suit your own biases? You do know people used the "violent protests!!" rhetoric on Martin Luther King Jr., right? Especially since less than 10% of protests were violent, and not to mention that there were factors like police officers escalating the tensions.

    7. Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon

      Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon

      Yeah, trying to justify what happened at the Capital by any means, let alone trying to equate it to BLM is one if the most foolhardy takes I've seen.

    8. Tornado

      Tornado

      Only a politician can have a 'near death experience' while not even being close to the people who are supposed to harm her.

      I just wonder who had a more genuine 'near death experience'. AOC, who was in a building that wasn't even breached by the rioters, or the police officers and everyday citizens who had to deal with the BLM riots over the summer.

      Look, I know you're an idiot and basically incapable of arguing anything in good faith. The Streets of Rage topic alone clued me in on that.

       

       

       

       

      But even I am taken aback by just how colossally fucking stupid of a take it is from you to post the hypothetical of "Who was really in more danger: The cops with riot gear, mace, guns and SWAT vehicles who showed up to overwhelmingly peaceful protests over the summer in order to piledrive old men into the pavement, teargas protestors out of a square for a Trump photo op, and abduct US citizens into unmarked black cars without cause; or the US Representative who has been a lightning rod of hate and death threats by the Right when she was evacuated from an attempted insurrection at the Capitol building where a not-insignificant number of people who were involved were looking to kidnap US Congressmen and the Vice President of the United States to put on a mock trial and execute them for not overturning the election due to imaginary reasoning fabricated entirely because Trump was blown out in the election? HMMMMM????"

       

      Fucking cops were beaten and murdered at the Capitol riots, and I suspect their families won't think that it was no big deal compared to what happened when protestors were forcefully thrown out of Lafayette Square so Trump could stage a photo op with a bible he found somewhere, you callous partisan hack asshole shithead.

       

       

      Bet you would quickly change your tune if it was Trump claiming the exact same thing and it turned out to be a lie.

      Usually Trump is too fucking stupid to tell the truth about something that people watched happen live on television. Stuff that's public knowledge and videotaped is instead usually the kind of thing he instead tries to lie about.

       

       

       

      Be glad you're only getting banned for a week for this.

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  15. Tarnish
    I'm surprised Ryan is still willing to put up with SEGA's bullshit to begin with. From previous interviews, it sounded quite like he wasn't exactly treated the best by SEGA.
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  17. Tarnish
    'Being in talks' to me means there is a two-way communication to come to an agreement. As far as I know, merely Ryan's agent contacted SEGA. For all we know, SEGA might not even respond or just promptly say NO if they already have their own candidate in mind, so it's hardly 'being in talks'.
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  19. Tarnish
    Here's one from a game I didn't expect to have a kickass soundtrack.
  20. Tarnish
    And this, kids, is why social media and the Internet in general is a terrible place. You can be a saint your entire life, but if you make 1 mistake (which doesn't even have to be related to your profession or career), the whole world will come after you and want your whole life ruined. You might as well be dead at that point. Because for many people, having your career, livelihood and reputation ruined, deplatformed so you can't say anything, is totally a reasonable response to saying something or holding a belief that upset you or you don't agree with. As my PE teacher once said: "I'm not going to wish you good, or bad. I'm gonna wish you what you wish for me." If that disturbs someone, that's on them.
  21. Tarnish
    Walking into this thread like
  22. Tarnish
    Hopefully they were enjoyable for other reasons too than just being from a different country/language. 😃 Here's a few more that I personally enjoy in case anybody is interested. These are from hungarian cartoons (from back when those were still a thing) : And this one is interesting because it was sung by a blind 11 year old boy:
  23. Tarnish
    Some native (which for me would be Hungarian) contemporary rock/pop-rock songs. I have a feeling these aren't exactly world famous songs or bands. And yes, Hungarian bands with english names, but singing in hungarian. I guess they couldn't make up their minds.
  24.    Tarnish reacted to a post in a topic: What Can We Expect From The Next Generation Of Sonic Fans and The Future of The Sonic Games?
  25. Tarnish
    That's as good as anybody's guess, since we don't know yet what direction SEGA is gonna take Sonic next. They might change things, they might do the exact same thing they've been doing for the last decade, just with different people. I probably interpreted the question differently, because I took 'The Next Generation Of Sonic Fans' as the new audience it garnered in the past decade. Since, you know, we don't know the 'next generation of fans', since we don't even know the 'next generation' of Sonic games, or the general direction of Sonic.
  26. Tarnish
    Am I wrong perhaps that when people are nostalgic about something, they prefer things that remind them of that? That's why we're in the era of remakes and reboots, because a ton of people are nostalgic about old games, who now have disposable income.
  27. Tarnish
    Well for the 'Next Generation Of Sonic Fans', the cringe era Sonic games are gonna be the ones they played and gonna be nostalgic about. So they'll probably want even more of that because for them, that is what Sonic is.
  28. Tarnish
    What Can We Expect From The Next Generation Of Sonic Fans and The Future of The Sonic Games? Cringe. Lots and lots of cringe.
  29. Tarnish

    Well, good riddance to bad rubbish is all I have to say.

    Unless of course SEGA is stupid enough to say "Just continue where they left off" to the new writers.

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