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  1. showerthought: Pokemon X & Y is the Sonic Adventure of the franchise.

    A rather faithful (for better or for worse) adaptation of the 2D entries into the 3rd dimension with some stylistic floruishes.

    which makes Sun & Moon the Adventure 2. An evolution of the formula that breaks with a lot of what came before: no grid-based movement, realistic proportioned characters etc.

    so maybe Sword & Shield is their Heroes: a divisive entry on new, unfamiliar hardware that aggressively tries to court new fans, that those long-timers see as the ULTIMATE BETRAYEL.

    Which means Legends Arceus is gonna be... oh dear...

    1. Kuzu


      Think Black and White fits that title better given the reverent love for it as of late.

      By comparison, almost everyone agrees XY  wasn't very good. 

    2. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      I for one would say I'd look forward to Legends Arceus being a gun-wielding edge fest

    3. BadBehavior


      @Kuzu Just give it a few years. Gen 6's time will come. "Mega Evolutions are so much better than the stupid Quantonoodling of Gen 9. Team Flare > Team Krump" the fans who grew up with those games will say.

  2. Sonic Team making this collection? Ooof, the last time the team was split making 2 different games didn't turn out too well. Doesnt instill confidence in either this or Rangers.
  3. Depends on when it was canned. If it was after 06/Unleashed, I'd be content knowing that they went out fighting. If it was after Forces, I'd point and laugh at the game that actually killed the series and be glad that nothing remotely as insulting would ever disgrace Sonic's name ever again. While also being a bit sad that the great "Sonic Generations with all original levels" that everyone wanted was made with all of the beauty and grace of used toilet paper.
  4. Especially when Sonic Team themselves made such a big deal out of obtaining 60fps with Lost World on the Wii U. The optimist in me says that they didn't want to hold back the non-Switch versions too much.
  5. Gotta feel bad for the England team. I can almost hear the right-wing say that they lost because they were rainbow wearing knee taking marxism spreading woke-meisters.

    1. PaddyFancy


      Forgetting Italy took the knee too.

    2. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      Our right-wing isn't very smart.

    3. Piko


      If “rainbow wearing knee taking marxism spreading woke-meisters” doesn’t sound like it came from a Daily Express article idk what does.

  6. The only way this'll be interesting is if they add the Chaotix as a proper team. Not sure who'd take Vectors place on Team 06 but anyone's better than him.
  7. Just call 2012 onward the Real Dark Age. Thats what I do.
  8. hence why Sega felt secure going with the little 3 game exclusivity deal in the Wii U era. The problem of course being that it was the Wii U, which flopped only slightly less harder than the Dreamcast. So the lesson they learned was not to pull stupid crap like that again. Don't wanna put all your eggs in one basket.
  9. Can't believe we had a returning characters discussion without mentioning Classic Sonic. Everything about him in Forces is terrible and I hate every nanosecond he's on screen. Is that opinion popular?
  10. Its interesting how this thread came out in 2010, when the "shitty friends" wound was still relatively fresh. Fast forward 10 years and all the characters people were sick of seeing they now want back, and we have a whole new assortment of characters we want to never see again.
  11. https://www.sonicstadium.org/2021/07/rumor-roger-craig-smiths-return-wont-last/

    Well that was pointless. Is Roger just gonna be voicing Sonic forever even when he's a Futurama style head in a jar?

    1. PC the Hedgehog

      PC the Hedgehog

      I hope so.

    2. Kuzu


      Its really not that big of a deal and you need to stop treating it like such

    3. Blacklightning


      If he does the job fine and he wants to do it why do you care?

    4. Ferno


      We can't have our own Jun'ichi Kanemaru over here? Roger's not my fave either but I feel like we've been conditioned to expect a new sonic voice every 5-10 years over here meanwhile Japan gets to have their "forever" Sonic that's been around since 1998

    5. Kuzu


      Well the long and short of it is that everyone wants "their" favorite actor to be Sonic and hate Roger because he's not them. 

    6. antinomicTune


      As someone who doesn't even like Roger's Sonic voice, Kuzu's 100% right tbh. I was definitely looking forward to a new VA and dissapointed when Roger came back, but: there's no point in complaining on the internet about it. It's not like SEGA's gonna change their mind, so all you're doing is annoying others.

  12. If they keep compromising for weaker Nintendo hardware, we're gonna be waiting until the Playstation 8/ Xbox Series Epsilon for a game that looks as impressive as Unleashed did.
  13. Xbox: We nabbed Obsidian
    Sony: Oh yeah? Well we nabbed Obsidian... 's sound... guy...


    1. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      I thought you were going to say Obsidian's Stunt Double for a second.

    2. KingMario05


      Eh, they got Insomniac and enough Squenix deals to last until the heat death of the universe. Sony'll be just fine.

  14. If the symphony is anything to go by, Sega/Sonic Team looks more favourably on Shadow and 06 than they do Sonic 4.

    1. JezMM


      I wouldn't read too much into Shadow's inclusion - Jun loves that song.  He plays it at every Crush 40 live performance without fail pretty much.

      As for 2006, the soundtrack remains popular even if the game isn't - definitely moreso than Sonic 4's soundtrack.  Ultimately, the symphony was always about the music.

    2. PaulyBFromDa303


      Probably because crowds remain dead when they mention Sonic 4


      Ladies and gentlemen, SONIC 4!!!


  15. I wonder how critics will react? Still blind overpraise like back in 2010, or will the context of a whole Era of games aping it's worst qualities combine with this remasters issues and probably knock the metascore down a few pegs?
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