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  1. Hey guys! Keep in mind that the film is having its private premier screening tommorow in LA. We might here some criticism. I don't think that "final trailer" that random Twitter poster talked about is happening. I honestly think that it would have been shown this week or last week if it was really THAT soon. And plus, movies that are only an hour and 30 minutes normally don't get more than 2 trailers these days. With all this being said, I may leave this forum for a while to avoid major spoilers now. I think it's also time I admitted, I know a few people who worked on this movie. I know some people on here are probably not going to enjoy it because it's essentially "Not MY Sonic!" for some people, but as a movie on its own, for people with an open mind, and general audiences, I honestly think it's going to turn out well for them. I think it will be decent. Definitely one of the better video game movies.
  2. Not gonna lie, the lack of funny lines and reuse of that same "I HAVE NO IDEA" scene is sort of bothering me. But still, very curious to see this movie and not doubting good comedy just yet. I think the "almost constantly" line is little funny, but not hilarious. Though again, that's also reused footaged. Edit: to be fair, we have been warned that although this film is good, there's some cheesiness
  3. All of the promotion for it right now is completely normal. Of course a restaurant is going to promote it, toys and merch is going to be made, and SEGA would have something to do with it. Honestly, I actually don't think they're doing enough with advertising. Boom had more promotion than this.
  4. Yeah...I'm not doubting this movie will be good, but I do have some suspicions sometimes. This is an "adventure comedy". Not an ACTION adventure comedy. So I bet a lot of people are expecting a huge emphasis on action scenes, when really, this movie is almost primarily going to focus on its humor and its story (its characters too). There have been few jokes that got a chuckle out of me (my favorite being the child abduction joke), but other than that...the humor isn't all that impressive. I also noticed there's a lot of scenes where characters are screaming. I hope that isn't a common thing throughout the movie. and Tom has that same "WHAT!?", "NO DON'T DO THAT", "THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!", "DO NOT DO THAT", kind of personality you see in every one of these live action adaptations that have an animal friend involved (Detective Pikachu was a lot like that too). But like I said, a major thing that has raised my suspicion is the extreme lack of advertising here in the US. I find it odd how they're JUST NOW releasing TV spots here. Do they not care about box office because the film is so bad, or are they so confident with how much publicity it gained during the post to full redesign process that they think it will succeed? I haven't lost all hope in the jokes though. A trailer does not represent an entire movie. Dora and Angry Birds 2 looked like absolute unfunny trash in the trailers but ended up hilarious. I feel like the same case will apply here. EDIT: I will say though I find it weird how they keep reusing the same footage in all the ads. Like the exact same thing in every one. Especially the "HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD!?" scene
  5. In the pre-redesign version of the film he's smiling in that shot. Odd that he's not here. The original version gave me the vibe of him being witty. To be fair, he looked like he was standing up in the original too. Although the direction of Sonic looking back at Tom is way off in that image too.
  6. Again, considering we haven't seen the entire film, and that this is an origin story, it's kind of reasonable as to why they don't look like badnicks. This takes place during a time before Sonic and Robotnik met, and we know that Robotnik gets crazier as the film progresses. My prediction is that Sonic is the one that caused him to have a fascination with capturing animals and using their powers. I wouldn't say that's a spoiler because it's pretty clear that's what's happening in this film. A sequel or possibly towards the end of this film is when we start to see badnicks develop. Also epic photos, where did you find that?
  7. I'm glad that there's potential swearing in this movie, and I'm happy that Detective Pikachu had that as well. The American PG rating needs to start actually freaking meaning something these days.
  8. Haven't seen that video yet, but if I'm going to be honest...I wouldn't mind some kind of Sonic reboot spawning from this film. The Sonic franchise has such a confusing timeline, setting, and rule on what's canon or not canon. It's like we get a completely different soft reboot everytime they change the voice cast and it just adds more to confusion. I think they should make some sort of spin off adaptation (like a film series, cartoon, or even anime) to explain the entirety of the story of these games in a proper less confusing timeline. I wouldn't even mind a continuation of Sonic X to be real, since they already got Adventure 1 and 2 down. It'd be cool if we got to see that series or these films adapt games we never got to see adapted before. Like Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic CD, a better story for Sonic Heroes/Shadow The Hedgehog, the Sonic Advance series, the Sonic Rush series, the two storybook games, Sonic Unleashed, etc. And no, I'm not really thinking of Sonic fans themselves when I say this, I'm once again thinking of general audiences who have never played these games before. They could now visit these stories from another medium such as film or a series.
  9. This film has been described as having a "hard PG". Do you think it'll have slight swearing like Detective Pikachu?
  10. I chose that because Sonic is acting as if saving the world is a simple or fun essential task (hence the word "basically"). His tone of voice and the fact that he's smiling with somewhat of a smug expression while saying that, kind of gives off a "I'm going to have fun kicking Robotnik's ass" kind of vibe to me.
  11. ...This movie comes out in less than a month and I've seen almost zero ads for it in the US. Detective Pikachu promoted itself way earlier than this Sonic movie did. Gonna be honest guys...not looking good. $70 million in box office isn't a bad estimate for how this movie could perform. I hope I'm wrong though. I think it may surpass a lot of other films this February because there doesn't seem to be a lot of interesting movies that month, but I won't be shocked if it does poorly in the box office because of no one even being aware of its release.
  12. I think that when Robotnick gets more crazier throughout the film, his robots will be more practical and more insane. That's my prediction at least. Also are people really just now noticing that Sonic has a bag when he keeps his rings? I keep seeing posts about it online. I noticed that like as soon as the redesign trailer released.
  13. Ngl, the extreme lack of advertising is scaring me a bit. I haven't seen any ads or TV spots here in America (why the hell weren't those animations ads on YouTube?), and they're just barely now selling toys right? This is probably one of the reasons why people are concerned with box office. I don't understand why Paramount WOULDN'T advertise this movie in December. 20-30 people viewing the redesign trailer shows that many people are aware of this film. Imo, people NEED to see this movie because one of the few times Hollywood actually listened to criticism.
  14. I feel like Sonic Boom could have really showed the potential of Sonic and Amy being a thing. Amy became a more comical and empathetic character Boom. There are some times where she's kind of just there to make fun of political correctness (to be fair though, every character in that show has a flaw/joke in them. Knuckles is dumb, Sticks is superstitious, Sonic's ego embarrasses himself, Tails messes up in realistic situations, etc.) but she is genuinely a more creative, empathetic, independent. My one problem though is that Boom didn't show as much chemistry between those two characters. Most episodes either had them all together talking as a group, or just sticking to Knuckles exclusively, or an episode with just Amy and Sticks, or Sonic and Tails, or Eggman, or Orbot and Cubot. But whenever you did see just Amy and Sonic in a scene together, there was humor on both of their mistakes, but also an obvious close friendship between these two characters that clearly have an attraction towards each other. So I'm not gonna lie, I agree. I don't really like how the games made Amy really one dimensional. But Boom seemed to have really fixed her. I honestly think it could work in that environment. I really wish Boom hadn't ended after its second season. There was so much more to experiment with. It makes me almost wish we had a CGi Sonic Boom film/finale by Warner Bros instead of this movie. I did however hear rumors that the reason why a major Sonamy moment never happened in that series is allegedly because the writers were actually divided about whether or not they thought Sonic and Amy would work well as a couple in the series. Some of them wanted it, others thought it was irrelevant (again, alleged/uncomfirmed).
  15. I agree. The rating system is so skewed. There's so many animated movies that have literally nothing wrong with them, but have the PG rating slapped on. They're basically just G rated films in disguise. I feel the same way about a lot of PG-13 films these days as well. They're just PG films disguised as PG-13 films. And yes I know about the labels. They're skewed as well. Inside Out is really rated PG for "themetic elements and some action"? That's ridiculous. Edit: At least Detective Pikachu had swearing and Spider-Verse had some swearing but also major death and violence. At least shows like Adventure Time and Regular have actual mature themes and violence. At least Rango had both swearing and violence. Did you know The Simpsons still mostly gets the PG rating today? But why is The LEGO Movie PG? Why is The Grinch PG? Why is Wreck It Ralph PG? Why is Sponge Out Of Water PG? Why is BUMBLEBEE PG-13?
  16. I don't like jerky Sonic either. I don't really understand why anyone would want another stereotypical ego heavy selfish character. I mean in Boom and SATAM he has a bit of an ego, but he isn't a toal sociopath. In other adaptations he has snark against his enemies, but not just out of nowhere with random people or his friends. I feel like in Team Sonic Racing's story mode, Sonic's interaction with characters was pretty rude and completely out of character.
  17. I like the video game Sonic character. Classic Sonic is really charming even without a voice, and you can see so much personality out of him. So much attitude in his expressions. I like that the adventure-era Sonic/Sonic X Sonic has a bit of snark and that same attitude but still has a huge heart and sympathy for helping others. But I think that kind of character that Sonic has only works best if it's in the setting of a video game or television series. I also like it when people who aren't from SEGA experiment with this character, and execute it well. Sonic has proven to be a likable television character in 3 different animated shows now (Satam Sonic has that same attitude as classic Sonic but now with a voice, Sonic X is similar to the adventure era Sonic, and Sonic Boom Sonic is hilariously snarky and comical). A new movie adaptation is entirely different from a game or show though. I don't really blame them for making some changes, because they need to introduce this character to people who have never seen anything related to Sonic The Hedgehog. This new movie Sonic seems like a more innocent child with enthusiastic charisma, and a GROWTH snark. Basically, the origin of how Sonic became Sonic. That to me is a pretty great way of telling new people who this character is. Character development. I truly think that even though there's major risks to this film, there's a lot of potential. Like one of the producers of Sonic Boom said while they were working on the series, SEGA is bold to allow this much creative control. Edit: the movie will also clearly show how Sonic managed to control his speed or his "power", which I think is very interesting, and adds a lot of cartoony visual gags like the redesign trailer has displayed.
  18. This might sound bizarre to hear, but sometimes someone else's vision of a character is better than what the original creator's vision of it was. Someone who hated The Flintstones made a DC Flintstones comic that was way better than the original show. The people who worked on nicktoons like Ren & Stimpy, Danny Phantom, and The Loud House, but didn't CREATES those shows had way more involvement and creative control than the people who DID create those shows (especially since the creator of Loud House was fired and the show is still running and still good). This doesn't happen to EVERY property, a lot of shows, movies, and even video games started to suck when they lost key creative people in their teams, but it's not impossible. People who worked on SATAM weren't from SEGA. Believe it or not, critically, not a lot of people actually like the Sonic OVA. It's especially not something general audiences would love. If this Sonic movie ends up being above average, and the creators don't like it, or it wasn't what they originally invisioned, their opinions matter, but they probably won't understand why people like it. It's sounds like the people at SEGA who aren't liking what's happening with this film (more specifically the people who dislike the redesign) were wanting something more in line with Bay Turtles or Transformers. I personally think SEGA gave up on Boom because they were being way too ambitious about it by merchandising and making games for Boom way too early in its course, season 1 was more of experimentation than anything, and the network treated it horribly, but also because they didn't understand the potential of the series during season 2. If they had the right people working on it from the very beginning, didn't sell toys and make games until it gained more recognition, and probably if it had been a Netflix or Hulu original, Boom would have probably still be a thing to this day, and it might have even created a major cult following. We probably would have even gotten a Boom movie at some point.
  19. I'll be honest. I still am very confident this film will be decent (definitely above average). But I do kind of somewhat get where he's coming from. When I heard that this film was going to be an edgier and slightly darker approach to the character with a PG-13 target rating, that Sonic wouldn't be MAJORILY different looking compared to how he looks in the games, and that the film won't be like Alvin & The Chipmunks or Smurfs (I still don't think it will, and the production team still says it won't be), I did feel a little gitty. Even though the first trailer for this movie had a bad design for Sonic, and some of the jokes were unfunny, I did like that it was making it out to be a slightly more action-heavy and entirely different approach to this character. Like a Marvel movie. The second trailer made the movie look more like a fun comedy adventure movie. Which is what it's kind of supposed to be. With that being said though, I am kind of relieved. This movie is going to be rated PG, but it's more than likely going to be a hard PG with more comedy focus than just action. The darkest scene is only in the beginning (I'm assuming it'll be similar to Finding Nemo's dark beginning, and then later have a more comedic tone throughout the red of the movie). Plus, outside of Marvel, that kind of dark emotional action/comedy combination hasn't worked before with an animated character in a live action setting. Bay Turtles tried this, and it failed horrible. I actually think it's kind of GOOD thing that it's family friendly and comedy heavy because the idea of a more serious film starring a super cartoony blue hedgehog that runs really fast wouldn't work well in a live action setting. Remember when the fan film attempted that?
  20. I zoomed in on the baby Sonic image. It kind of DOES look like he has paws of some sort. Those definitely are bare (I hate feet).
  21. According to that guy on Reddit who RECENTLY claimed to have seen a test screening of the film, there is no political agenda or jokes about politics in this movie. Gonna be honest, I hope this is true. I was a little bit afraid there'd be something involving that after looking through Patrick Casey and Jim Carrey's Twitter posts (they get very political), and the "Is the Rock president?" joke. You shouldn't make an iconic character like Sonic step into divisive territory like politics. A lot of movies and shows that have been recently doing that are getting praised by critics but absolutely demolished by audiences. Hollywood needs to just aim for the largest audience possible when it comes to stuff like this in my opinion.
  22. Nobody wanted Boom either (even when it was running) until the second season. People are just now starting to see the charm in Unleashed. I'll give you Sonic Underground, I do agree it's pretty bad, though I've been oddly meeting a lot of people who remember and miss that series. My point was mainly, once again, the whole "it's different therefore it's bad" stigma is getting out of hand, even to those still complaining about Unleashed. I have a feeling that even with a completely out of the ordinary origin story for Sonic, and an unfamiliar story, this could very well end up being decent. We're thinking way too much on "Why isn't the movie like (insert Sonic title). Why would they add this and that?" instead of just looking at how this might execute as a movie on its own. Edit: Also most of the people who say the whole wherehog thing in Unleashed is cringey have never even played the game. All they know is that it got negative reception from critics and that Sonic turns into a wherehog. And also general audiences who hardly know anything about Sonic aren't going to care so much that he has this kind of origin story.
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