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  1. No ammo? Good. Now that I shut you down with that sales fact sheet, maybe this thread will get back on track. A history of the arguments I shutdown.... -"Side characters were not forced upon us," I quickly shut that down. - Conceded I was correct, new argument was: "Sonic is not what drives the series," I shut that down. -Conceded I was correct, new argument was: "Sonic as the only playable character do not drive the series," shut that down. -Conceded I was correct, new argument was: "He only did well because it was bundles." I also shut that down with a fact sheet of Sonic game sales. It turns out, I was correct...... You wanna know why this was always a losing argument for you? PSSST.........The best selling titles are driven by Sonic. It is nonsensical to be arguing this on a "Sonic" Forum, lol. This was my original point, which is why destroying these arguments were so easy.... You will always lose Thunder, because the brand is Sonic, the series is Sonic, the mascot is Sonic, the sales are driven by Sonic. Lets take your last point for example.... Sonic is what drove people to buy the console lol...... This goes back to my original point, he drives the series. You can't win.....This was always a losing argument for you, because your base was a contraindication. The consoles sold, because he was bundled with it.....lol.......proved my point. He drives the series. Can we end this now? I am starting to feel like a bully.......
  2. That explains why the ones which were not bundled sold well, LOL!!!! https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic I personally had to buy Sonic Adventure game when I got my Dreamcast in 1999.......As-well as Sonic and Knuckles, And Sonic 1........I assume some folks had the original version, so maybe they didn't....But, I have issues reading, so, you mind telling everyone the numbers of those games? I have trouble reading.....Do you mind opening that link and "Reading" some of those best selling Sonic games? You know, so everyone can hear it from your mouth?
  3. Because the majority of Sonic games are free, didn't know that..... LOL, too easy bruh, too easy... Like what? Which story drove the series to commercial success? I agree with the characters part, because Sonic is the character who drives the series, so you are correct.
  4. But yet, you are on a Sonic forum and not a Tails forum..... The irony....... Might wanna take that "Blue hedgehog" silhouette out of your avatar pic and replace it with characters that "Fuel your desire...."
  5. SEGA vs Nintendo was probably the most vicious console war of all-time. If anything, SEGA putting Sonic games on multiple platforms instead of one would benefit or inflate sales.
  6. Any version of Sonic, is better than any side character because like I sated, "His game-play mechanics is what drives the series, period." Bringing up characters like the Werehog is a losing argument, because he does not have Sonic's mechanics. See the flaw in your argument? Sonic Spin-ball & Pinball party was actually Sonic the Hedgehog, no transformation, but they did not have his mechanics, now did they? My point is Sonic's mechanics are what drives the series.
  7. Uhhhh....You can play as Sonic, only in that game.... Have you even played Sonic mania lol? It is akin to S3 & Knuckles, where you can play as one character solo...
  8. You answered your own question, Werehog. Werehog was a clever way for them to force an unconventional Sonic characters (Such as Silver, Big, etc) onto us. Notice how he is called Werehog, not Sonic. The best selling Sonic games of all-time only had him with the optional Tails.......Period? The worst had a cluster of crazy toons. So it works just fine, unless you were born around the 2000s and don't remember a time where it was just Sonic, with the optional Tails.
  9. That is all I wanted to hear. You are forced, period. Sonic is the reason people play Sonic games, hence it is called "Sonic the Hedgehog." Any version of Sonic is better than any other character because he is the cash cow. His game-play mechanics is what people pay for. If there were 5 versions of Sonic, that would be fine because it is Sonic. When you get away from his game-play mechanics, this is when the waters start to get murky... Sonic > All other characters, period...Because his game-play mechanics is what drives the series, period.
  10. You missed the point, you cannot progress through the game without playing as buddy, buddy... Therefore, Buddy was forced upon us. But you were forced, unless you can prove we were not, my point stands....
  11. There is no aside, lol, you are forced. Include him. What you are saying kind of sounds like this.... "Aside from the very last mainstream Sonic game they released, notwithstanding the ones of this past decade, we were not forced to play as other characters" Eh? That is a lot of variables... It kind of sounds like we were.
  12. Just because it does not make sense to you because you may like to play as others characters, does not mean you have to throw a tantrum with everyone you disagree with. You were forced in SA 1 & 2; period. In the 90s, this was not a thing. Oddly, the 90s games were considered the best. Sonic CD.
  13. My avatar "Was" s Sonic fan character I created, which is basically a guy (Human, not animal) surrounded by emeralds in his super-form. Not sure where he went, lol. Think I removed it by mistake when I was in my settings goofing around because I am still rather new to the boards. I will put him back in my sig whenever I get around to it.
  14. The thing I like about Mario? Mario games are Mario games. Sonic tends to steer off into a multitude of characters and game-play styles. I do not dislike tails, but if he were to get a spinoff, so be it. My issue is how convoluted Sonic games are. With that said, I have no issue with any of his roles. He is a lot like Robin; sometimes independent, sometimes in distress. My issue is how we are forced to play as other characters such as him in Sonic titles.
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