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    Palette got a reaction from Legendary Emerald in Any good Sonic Youtube channels?   
    TheKazeblade and Em Bani are, without a doubt, my go-to recommendations for people if they ever want good analytical Sonic-focused channels. Lots of really great constructive insights from the videos of these dudes.
    Also, not really a Sonic channel at all, but the Geek Critique's Sonic videos are fantastic as well! He got done doing some retrospectives for the Adventure era games not too long ago and they're straight up some of the best long-form video game reviews/video essays/retrospectives/whatever-you-want-to-call-them on the entire site IMO.
    Besides these guys, I don't really follow a whole lot of other Sonic Youtubers. I guess RadicalSoda still makes Sonic videos? He's pretty funny sometimes I suppose. Those are all my recommendations for ya. Have fun with 'em.
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    Palette reacted to Radiant Hero Ike in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sequel confirmed! No news on casting or anything but I'm already excited
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    Palette reacted to Dr. Detective Mike in Sonic the Hedgehog Movie Sequel Now In Development   
    It feels weird walking into this thread feeling the exact opposite way I did coming into the original thread for the first film. If I went back in time and told myself that not only would have I watched the movie but enjoyed it and bought the blu ray but would also be anticipating the sequel, I'd contemplate kicking myself in the face and stealing my own lunch money, probably.
    Yeah no, I'm actually super excited to see what they'll do next. I wanna see the full Jim Carrey Eggman transformation. I wanna see what Tails' role is going to be and how he meets and works off of Sonic. I want to see if they actually keep Colleen for the film. I want to see if Tails' design is going to be given any tweaks or if what we saw was his finished look. I want to see if there's going to be more Sonic remixes within the soundtrack. I want to know what the deal with the Echidna tribe is. I want to know if Longclaw is alive. I want to know if Crazy Carl ever got his chainsaw back.
    I'm in. Sign me up. 
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    Palette reacted to Tracker_TD in Sonic is (supposed to be) cool   
    The idea that Sonic must be overtly "cool" or that there was an "edgy spark to ignite the franchise" is perhaps the greatest success of the US marketing spin, because it's nigh bollocks with how much some people stress it now.
    Sonic has more attitude than Mario - he's got a smirk, he gets annoyed at the player for taking too long where Mario just takes a nap, and he's very cocky and arrogant. But to deny that there's any kind of room for pushing beyond that is just wrong. He's an adventurer, and a generous friend to the woodland critters around him; you cite the Adventure games in your post, as if they were the start of Sonic's personality. They weren't. Look at the above artwork, all from Sonic 1's manual; you've got a blend of Sonic's more cocky, attitude-driven side, but also a cuter, more curious side to him that's befitting of an adventurer.

    The same goes for Judy Totoya's soft-redesign of Sonic for Sonic 2. He looks genuinely cool in some of this art, but he's also got a bit of a cuter side too. 
    The outright focus on Sonic being as cool as possible is almost pushing for a flanderisation of it a lot of the time. This isn't to say what Lost World does is any better, because good lord it isn't, but there's more to Sonic than being 'cool.' Sonic's battles against Eggman may not have been a joke, but they're not exactly War and Peace either; it reminds me of someone who one tried to convince me that Sonic 3 was 'edgy' (as a defence of SA2's plot) because it was a 'dark story of enslavement', just because you free animals from robots. Like, c'mon. It's like saying Mario is a dark, edgy story because the manual claims the brick blocks are transformed Toads. 
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    Palette reacted to itsamike in The final battle: Deem Bristow or Mike Pollock   
    You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
    The initial auditions for SONIC X were voice-matches. I was given clips of Deem Bristow and told to sound like him. The results of that audition speak for themselves, and are evident in the first several SONIC X episodes.
    Several weeks into the run, the production team informed me they wanted to lighten the voice to better service the comedy, specifically requesting Jiminy Glick-style peaks and valleys. I obliged, to their satisfaction.
    I'm an actor. (The goal of any working actor is to book as many rôles as possible, to the apparent dismay of some.) I adjust my performance to suit the script, and the desires of the director. In the franchise's darker games, I gave a darker read, as appropriate. For the lighter games, I play up the comedy to the best of my abilities.
    You can't please everyone. I don't have to be your favorite. I respect whatever opinion you have, because it's your opinion, and it's personal, by definition. The opinion that matters most is that of the producers, who choose to keep hiring me, and presumably approve of my performance.
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    Palette reacted to With Me in Sonics Colors is Garbage and here's why   
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    It's hard not to see Sonic's selection of color palattes in the Smash bros series as emblematic of it's relationship with the franchise overall. There are rumblings that Sonic isn't allowed to be portrayed as a different color than blue, so the team went with variants with emphasis on accessories to tell the difference. This is as good of a solution as you can ask for but I feel like this is an example of Sega's mandates harming the gameplay. It got a little confusing when there were four Sonics around. Most other characters in Smash have bold, distinct color pallets for alternate costumes.

    In Super Smash Bros Brawl's sequel, Smash 4, they loosened up on this. The alts are more distinct with a few of them having different primary colors for Sonic entirely. There's still more blue than I'd like but there's a little more variety here. The "Crystal Ring" alt and the purple alt that I like to read as a NiGHTS reference were my favorites. 

     
    Ultimate reuses a lot of content from Smash 4 so the skins are ultimately the same. 

    Still though I can't help but wonder how much Sega's influence hangs over his depiction in this series and how much of it is the creative team's own decisions. I'm sure both Sonic themed stages wouldn't have basically been the same without outside influence but I wonder if it was Sega or Sakurai pushing for Windy Hill in the game. Smash Bros usually goes to the latest game nowadays for stages so they can reuse the high quality assets without having to make new ones, so that's the most likely answer, but advertising the latest game works out pretty conveniently well for Sega too. Either way the lack of variety is disappointing as a fan of the franchise's various locales. And then there's the obvious topic of music selection. The Smash franchise is basically a dream for any VGM enthusiast as great composers from all across the industry come together to provide spins on eachother's work, but Sonic, one of the most acclaimed VGM collections around, is left out of this fun for reasons nobody is quite able to parse. Sakurai has hinted in the past that any lacking musical selection is usually down to the IP holder's restrictions. Most people have made the obvious connection with Final Fantasy's lack of music but Sonic fans have been wondering about our team as well. Sakurai went as far as to contact Jun Senoue and Tomoya Ohtani to do remixes for the latest game, so he's aware of their popularity as composers, but Sonic still remains largely untouched by anyone. It's a strange and sad situation, especially since Nintendo basically let Sega's sound team have access to the entire Mario library for the Olympic games to excellent results. 

    Now and again the idea of another Sonic character in Smash gets floated around. I don't expect this to ever realistically happen but it's fun to think about. Knuckles and Shadow would be my go-tos as a fan even if they're a little basic. One of my biggest beefs when it comes to actually playing as Sonic is his lack of kill power and one of the "sonic but stronger" archetypes would help with that while retaining some of his fun movement. I'd prefer Shadow for personal reasons though. Eggman would offer a lot more variety than anyone else as he has shown he's basically capable of creating anything in the games. Deeper cuts like Amy or Blaze that I'd really like are basically guaranteed not to happen but it's fun to think about mechanics like Amy's hammer jump and Blaze being able to overload her boost meter in that context. 

    Overall though I'm glad Sonic himself is in the game at all even if his content isn't my favorite to mess around with. You could nitpick Smash as a piece of fanservice in a lot of ways but it's important to stop and appreciate the insane amount of work that went into what we have just the same. Sonic's reveal is still one of my favorite game trailers and while there obviously wasn't enough time to give him a more substantial role in the story mode having him save the day at the end serves as a nice apology.
     


    Sonic's animations were a little rough in his debut but they've spent the past two game tightening up his design and animations to the point where it's one of my favorite versions of the character to look at.  There are a lot of callbacks in the way Sonic animates without completely regressing the character to his sprite like they did with Megaman. It's a good mix of old and new that keeps fans of all stripes happy.
    He's just bouncy and expressive with lots of little subtle animation tricks and tweaks the modern Sonic games don't do. THere's also little references hidden all over his moveset from obvious things like the hands on the hip pose/idle animation being a send up to the classic titles and attacks being inspired by the Sonic fighting games. You can tell that the animation team has a lot of enthusiasm for the character. 
    It also can't be understated how much his moveset has been tightened up game after game. Sonic having two spindashes has always been a point of contention but I feel like it's gotten to the point where it works well enough that I wouldn't change it all that much. Both side B and down B are  distinct and it overall keeps that simplicity that's at the core of the character's movement. Other tweaks like Homing Attack's wind up time being shaved off make him a much snappier, more aggressive character than when he debuted.

    It's a shame Ultimate dropped the trophy collection aspect because I had a lot of fun collecting them. It was nice to have a more tangible piece of my favorite characters in the game in some small way. 


    What do you think of Sonic's representation in Smash? What kind of additions would you make in your wildest dreams?
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    Palette reacted to Strickerx5 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    There's 0 need to go on the offensive and be rude like this. Actually make counterpoints without the name calling or take a break. Consider this your one and only warning.
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    Palette reacted to Razule in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Those came out about 30 years ago, dude.
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    Palette reacted to Zaysho in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Literally the moderator post above you said we don't need a live feed on the Rotten Tomatoes scores. Stop.
    If you guys want to talk about specific reviews, that's fine, but do more than gloating about scores.
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    Palette reacted to Blueknight V2.0 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Sonic has reached 70% on RT, surpassing Pikachu but still needs to surpass Angry Birds 2 for highest scored video game film.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games
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    Palette got a reaction from Sonario in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    We got a Rotten Tomatoes consensus now lads! [it's also currently at 69% with 54 reviews, on the verge of passing Detective Pikachu as the second-highest rated video game movie on the site, even for a moment]
     
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    Palette reacted to Scritch the Cat in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    After someone thought a lot of us wanted to see the Powerpuff Girls twerking, I am not bothered by this.
    But even if my eyes had been spared that Lolita-lite gag, I don’t see what’s so bothersome about this.  It’s not an embarrassingly sexual dance, let alone on a child, it’s not a dance overexposed to the irritating levels of the Macarena or Gangnam Style, it doesn’t have an obnoxiously lame song promoting it like “Crank Dat”, and it’s not the sort of thing that’ll actually date the movie.  Sonic doing a specific dance won’t be relevant forever, but past the fad it’ll just be Sonic dancing; nothing wrong with that.
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    Palette reacted to VisionaryofSUPER in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Again. It seems like he's focused on largely the tone and lack of ability to really form a connection with these characters. 

    However his review also states he's getting into the cast and thinks that they are all putting in an earnest performance, and I think that's another important thing for getting the mainstream audience. That sort of thing can shine for less discerning people.
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    Palette reacted to VisionaryofSUPER in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    The first review has leaked: https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-doesnt-rock-even-after-a-new-paintjob/
     
     just read the whole review. The guy talks about Sonic endlessly monologuing about loneliness. Jim Carrey's Mugging the camera. The general jokes, as all the worst aspects of the movie.

    The part he likes are Marsden's more mellow performance and the sympathy he has for Sonic.

    So this tells me a lot of how critics will judge this movie going forward. It will be judged by critics tolerance for all the high energy and lack of subtlety. The jokes are the wild card.

    The thing is, this actually makes me more hype about the movie, because nothing he's saying seems particularly bad about the plot from any logical or moral stand. Just seems to be based on pure tolerance levels. Tolerance is probably the most subjective thing when judging any piece of media. 
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    Palette reacted to blueblur98 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    a video by paramount UK, showcasing an event that took place presumably a movie theater, where kids could talk to a virtual version of sonic voiced by ben schwartz, similar to events nintendo set up where you could talk to mario at the nintendo NY store during certain holidays.
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    Palette reacted to Jack out of the comics! in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I'm looking at the reactions right now... From advanced screenings, they are ALL positive. I'm surprised and excited, it affects me with a positive energy.
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    Palette reacted to Gamecuber64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    There's been a couple of reactions from people who have seen the film at advanced screenings.
    This is a review from someone who didn't like the film but thought it was fun. According to Reddit, he points out this:
    The CGI of Sonic looks unfinished in lots of scenes (probably because of the critics and reworking)
    Full of references from Game and other medias, incluiding Mario for some reason.
    Jim Carrey is near perfect as Robotnik, but he doesnt use the same clothing as he does in the games until very later on.
    James Marden doesn't work as a comedian duagonist alongside Sonic. Jim Carrey is miles funnier than him in the movie.
    Sonic backstory is sad as fuck for some reason.
    Third Act goes downhill and it's pretty bad.
    Game theme song is not used in the movie. Mostly contemporary pop songs.
    Very repetitive movie, with lots of "Sonic being fast" jokes.
    Leaves open for sequel at the end, with title card and all (like Mario movie did) So a sequel will likely depend on the movie's success
    Here's another review from someone who enjoyed the film. He doesn't really seem like a great film critic, however, every film he's gotten to see at an early screening (he always praises them), has always gotten positive reception from most critics.
    Another person who has allegedly seen the movie is claiming that it is flawed, but fun, and that Sonic and Robotnick are the best characters
    I'm expecting mixed or decent reception like Detective Pikachu. Probably one of the better video game movies. Keep in mind again, this film has been called cheesy by a lot of audiences.
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    Palette reacted to Tracker_TD in Potential New Animation   
    Marza have been putting out art of the Unleashed ghosts consistently for like, a year now. It's just a way to raise awareness of their own properties - they frequently draw them interacting with characters from their other IP, for example.
    Given the amount of fanart they receive from fans who only know them for their Sonic work, I kind of expected them to throw Sonic fans a bone at some point - but I don't think it's implying a new animation or anything like that. It's just a cute way to thank Sonic fans for supporting their Twitter.
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    Palette reacted to Indigo Rush in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It's not as simple as calling up the actor and having them come into the studio. 
    You need to go through their agent/representative (good luck), schedule things out and calculate how much money it's worth before you can even cut a deal. 
    Just to have them record a line or two for a free to play mobile game.
    It isn't worth it.
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    Palette reacted to Tracker_TD in An argument against Sonic's social media humor   
    Towards the end of last year, I actually catalogued all of the Sonic Twitter's posts from last year. I mostly did it as a way to debunk the "Adventure focus" they'd supposedly had, but it works for this purpose too.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BvGVKvE3KfgTS-fUS0blLIAmm8cc7vn1/view?usp=sharing
    Out of the posts catalogued there, only one was about Sonic 2006. And it wasn't even dunking on 06 either! 
    And as of more recent, their only Sonic 06 related post was less a joke about 06's problems and more just a joke about Sonic dying and coming back to life. In response to a Peanut advert. A lot of the frequent criticisms of the Sonic social media are fairly outdated by now - even the meme usage has been considerably cut back, and if there are memes they're usually just memes spawned from actual Sonic media. It's not a 100% solid rule, but still.
    That may have something to do with Aaron being on a bit of a sabbatical, as Katie's been running the show instead for quite a while now, as far as I'm aware. All the complaints of self-awareness here feel like they're from someone who hasn't actually looked at the Sonic media in a fairly decent while. 
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    Palette reacted to thumbs13 in An argument against Sonic's social media humor   
    ...No? The average sonic social media post is just a facebook meme but with sonic characters. Not especially funny, but harmless and engaging. It's not ruining Sonic's rep, and has led to stuff like the twitter takeovers. 
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    Palette reacted to Blueknight V2.0 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Our 1st official clip! I gotta say, Sonic's reactions here was golden! XD.
     
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    Palette reacted to Rabid-Coot in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Another forgetable made for movie song.
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    Palette reacted to Stay at Home Ultima in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    We are getting a song:
    On one hand a bit curious but on the other hand ty Dolla sign is in this and I remember how Scared of the Dark was BOTCHED because of his vocals imo
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    Palette reacted to Indigo Rush in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Into my arms so I can protect him 
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