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    Palette reacted to Blue Blood in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    I don't think that the issue is mono-eye or not. As @MainJP correctly pointed out, Sonic's eyes make up almost his entire face. The shape and size of his eyes very important to his design, even if they're not as immediately as iconic as Mickey's ears, the Simpsons' yellow skin or indeed Sonic's own blue fur and spikes. The issue with the movie design is that Sonic's eyes are small, round circles instead of large, dynamic and angled. Eyes are a more subtle part of Sonic's design than his spikes and they can be messed around with, but its important that the size and shape are kept relatively the same. 
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    Palette reacted to ChaosKaiser in Sonic Movie Fan Art Thread   
    Okay, I'll have to admit I don't like what they've shown about this movie... but @CaptainRobo has inspired me to re-create the design of our blue hedgehog, just for fun.
    So, here is my reinterpretation of Paramount's Sonic the Hedgehog:


    ...and his infamous arch-nemesis, doctor...errrmmm... Robotnik? Eggman? Do we even know how he's gonna be called in the movie? Nah, whoever is PLAYED BY JIM CARREY:

    Hope you like them!
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    Palette reacted to Blue Blood in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    I love shitting on all the dumb things that this franchise has done and continues to do, with the movie and Sonic's design therein being the latest in a long list of fuck ups. But l have to say that the new design looking worse than the original one is so unlikely that it's virtually impossible. The original design was bad. Bad enough for what feels like the entire world to come together to tear it apart and force the studio to admit that they need to go back to the drawing board. All of the problems with the design and execution have been documented by Sonic fans, movie fans, impartial critics and industry contemporaries. We even know for a fact that SEGA, the IP holders, were dissatisfied with the design from the get-go but were relatively unable to take control because of how licensing rights are handled for cases such as this.
    The design will be improved. There's absolutely no way that Sonic's design is going to look worse. It might not look good (personally speaking I'm still expecting it to look pretty crap) and there there will always be issues with how appears in a live-action setting because of subjective opinions. But it will be better than this:
     
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    Palette reacted to Blue Blood in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    There's no significance to "150 days from the film's release". 
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    Palette reacted to Dr Ryan in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Thanks for sharing the link but, well... Lol these Tumblr guys have no idea do they? Alleged secondary descriptions from someone they spoke to who may have seen one potential design proposal? The eyes "may have been bigger" They've sat on this non-information and tried to hype it up like they have something? I don't think there's any credibility here.
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    Palette got a reaction from FFWF in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Well, since we're all just kinda walking around in circles in this thread waiting for something new to pop up that isn't a totally fake """leak""", I'd figure that I'd just pop in a little interesting tidbit that I stumbled across a few months ago that answers a few of the questions I had regarding the VFX when watching the trailer once you think about it.

    These two comments were posted under a reaction video to said trailer. Before anyone asks, yes I verified that the animator ain't lying. Searching his name on Google takes you to his Linkedin profile, which states that he's currently working for Moving Picture Company, a VFX house who are indeed working on the film. [fyi, please don't harass this guy to try and get more info, he's prolly under an NDA so he can't say much else]
    Even though it's just two comments, I feel that I can infer quite a bit from this. If I may go into a bit of speculation, the fact that they were constantly getting new designs/models, even up till the very last possible moment before the trailer dropped, makes me think that production has been at least a bit chaotic, even before the news of the redesign and delay, and even while the VFX and animation process was underway, when they should probably already have a finalized design and model to ensure a smooth production.
    It might also explain that weird feeling I got when watching the trailer - plenty of shots looked unfinished [especially throughout the middle], and I had a sneaking feeling that Sonic's look was constantly changing ever so slightly throughout the whole trailer, almost like they were switching between different models throughout numerous shots in the trailer. Turns out that might be the case after all. They were getting new, tweaked models all the time, so they weren't able to finish up all the shots with the latest model they got in time for the trailer - and they got new stuff while they were in the middle of making those shots, and they might've not been able to update them properly in time, which explains why Sonic doesn't blend well with the environment more than half the time in the trailer, and also why a lot of the other CG elements in it look like total ass. The VFX team simply didn't have enough time given their circumstances.
    Of course I might just be looking too deep into this - it is just a few Youtube comments. But my dumb self speculated about this, and came out with some interesting propositions that I felt like I wanted to share (which may or may not even be actually true). Make of this what you will. Apologies if this seems too ramble-y or somethin'
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    Palette got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Well, since we're all just kinda walking around in circles in this thread waiting for something new to pop up that isn't a totally fake """leak""", I'd figure that I'd just pop in a little interesting tidbit that I stumbled across a few months ago that answers a few of the questions I had regarding the VFX when watching the trailer once you think about it.

    These two comments were posted under a reaction video to said trailer. Before anyone asks, yes I verified that the animator ain't lying. Searching his name on Google takes you to his Linkedin profile, which states that he's currently working for Moving Picture Company, a VFX house who are indeed working on the film. [fyi, please don't harass this guy to try and get more info, he's prolly under an NDA so he can't say much else]
    Even though it's just two comments, I feel that I can infer quite a bit from this. If I may go into a bit of speculation, the fact that they were constantly getting new designs/models, even up till the very last possible moment before the trailer dropped, makes me think that production has been at least a bit chaotic, even before the news of the redesign and delay, and even while the VFX and animation process was underway, when they should probably already have a finalized design and model to ensure a smooth production.
    It might also explain that weird feeling I got when watching the trailer - plenty of shots looked unfinished [especially throughout the middle], and I had a sneaking feeling that Sonic's look was constantly changing ever so slightly throughout the whole trailer, almost like they were switching between different models throughout numerous shots in the trailer. Turns out that might be the case after all. They were getting new, tweaked models all the time, so they weren't able to finish up all the shots with the latest model they got in time for the trailer - and they got new stuff while they were in the middle of making those shots, and they might've not been able to update them properly in time, which explains why Sonic doesn't blend well with the environment more than half the time in the trailer, and also why a lot of the other CG elements in it look like total ass. The VFX team simply didn't have enough time given their circumstances.
    Of course I might just be looking too deep into this - it is just a few Youtube comments. But my dumb self speculated about this, and came out with some interesting propositions that I felt like I wanted to share (which may or may not even be actually true). Make of this what you will. Apologies if this seems too ramble-y or somethin'
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    Palette reacted to Rabid-Coot in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    I'm sort of hoping that theres nothing in the next few days just to see those that made claims about something late August shift their narrative to early September.
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    Palette reacted to CaptainRobo in Sonic Movie Fan Art Thread   
    Wow! Nice! BTW, I’m mixed on what I had see so far on the movie. However, I’m still looking forward watching it. It might be an fun movie to watch. 
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    Palette got a reaction from CaptainRobo in Sonic Movie Fan Art Thread   
    Not sure if this can be considered as fan-art as I'm not really a fan of what I've seen of the movie and the design, but I drew the Blue Gremlin himself out of boredom today.
     
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    Palette reacted to SBR2 in Next Main Game is 30th Anniversary Title, Drop Dash News   
    Yeah this is all a big steaming pile. 3 games limitedly exclusive to 3 different systems is absolutely ridiculous. 
    I could almostbuy Sega trying to cut a deal to get all the music officially in their rights but everything else is so ludicrous it's just so obviously fake. 
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    Palette reacted to Badnik Mechanic in Is the fanbase as large and as active today as it was 10-15 years ago?   
    The fanbase is still pretty large.
    But people just don't use forums or the old methods of hanging out anymore.
    It's all discord servers, specialist Facebook groups and reddit these days.
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    Palette reacted to Polkadi~☆ in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Yakuza, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, Jet Set Radio, Super Monkey Ball, NiGHTS, Total War, Puyo Puyo and more all laugh back at you. Even Sonic Team, when it’s not a Sonic game, can make a good game.
    I’m not sure why you made this comment, to be honest. SEGA is one of the largest Japanese video game publishers. They wouldn’t stay one of the largest if they were releasing crappy games, unless they’re EA.
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    Palette reacted to Rabid-Coot in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    I don't want to lose my job but I do want to get more attention on twitter so have a cryptic nothing.
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    Palette reacted to CaptainRobo in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    So, Adi Shankar who is the executive producer of Dredd and the Netflix TV show, Castlevania respond to Jim Carrey’s reaction on the redesign.: 
    Carrey’s comments were responded to by Shankar in a brief open letter, which he exclusively sent to Screen Rant. It reads as follows:
    Dear Jim,
    The audience isn’t “in on the creation” of the film you acted in. Sonic the Hedgehog was already created, decades ago. This film you lended your talents to adapted him incorrectly. It’s this perspective that Hollywood is entitled to dismantle iconography as it sees fit and reassemble it in ways that often bear little resemblance to the source that has led to the friction between gamers and the film industry.
    Best,
    Adi
    Source
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    Palette got a reaction from Dr Ryan in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Normally, I'd be with you guys and doubt this person too 'cos of how vague it is out of context. But the thing is, this particular person didn't just pop out of nowhere like most "leakers". He has a pretty lengthy past in the fandom, and has talked about his position as "the guy who runs the Brazilian Sonic movie Facebook page" a good number of times. The dude was even the one who revealed the first image of Carrey's Robotnik in the film, as well as the release date of the first trailer. Unlike most other people who say stuff like "yea i work for *insert company here* and i got some Epic Leaks for y'all", the dude has proven himself to be actually legit in the past.
    Admittedly I too am still a bit skeptical that something's coming this soon, again because of how kinda vague the post is, but considering this guy's past, I'm inclined to trust him on what he's saying about this.
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    Palette got a reaction from Myst in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Normally, I'd be with you guys and doubt this person too 'cos of how vague it is out of context. But the thing is, this particular person didn't just pop out of nowhere like most "leakers". He has a pretty lengthy past in the fandom, and has talked about his position as "the guy who runs the Brazilian Sonic movie Facebook page" a good number of times. The dude was even the one who revealed the first image of Carrey's Robotnik in the film, as well as the release date of the first trailer. Unlike most other people who say stuff like "yea i work for *insert company here* and i got some Epic Leaks for y'all", the dude has proven himself to be actually legit in the past.
    Admittedly I too am still a bit skeptical that something's coming this soon, again because of how kinda vague the post is, but considering this guy's past, I'm inclined to trust him on what he's saying about this.
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    Palette reacted to Diogenes in Sonic Appears in OK K.O.! (Crossover Episode on August 4th)   
    Maybe they just want to have fun with it and reference a thing they liked.
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    Palette reacted to MainJP in Sonic Appears in OK K.O.! (Crossover Episode on August 4th)   
    I like how he breaks into random Sonic poses coincidentally right before Sonic shows up in the flesh.


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    Palette reacted to CaptainRobo in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Ben Schwartz on the redesign.:
    “I can say that I’m very excited,” Schwartz told IGN during our Comic Con live stream.. “I haven’t seen the final thing yet, but I’m very excited. Because of the fans, they’re changing it, and I think it’s going to be great. The way it seems to be going, I think people are going to be really excited. It’s incredible to me that the fans spoke, and the people at Paramount, Jeff Fowler, our producers all listened and said ‘hey, you know, we can do this.’ So something special is coming.”
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    Palette reacted to SaturnWolf in Should SEGA replace Takashi Iizuka and Sonic Team and replace them with a new talented team?   
    Well see the problem with that is that's a temporary fix at best. Sonic Forces was almost entirely new people and that's one of the most divisive Sonic titles in quite some time.
    The problem lies more with Sega's management than anything.
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    Palette reacted to CaptainRobo in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Tim Miller on Sonic’s redesign for the movie.:
    You’re an executive producer on “Sonic the Hedgehog,” which was also due out in November but pushed to redesign the main character after fans protested. How was that experience?
    When “Sonic” arrived, the director, Jeff Fowler, was the best guy to do it. The redesign? Look, I was with fans and so was Jeff. This is a franchise, and it has to be great. When the s–t hit the fan, I went over there and said, “The most important thing to do, man, is say, ‘I f–ked up.’” He’d already sent a tweet out an hour before I got there. He’s a good man. It was exactly the right way to handle that. The fans have a voice in this too. There’s a right way to listen. 
    Have you seen any of the character redesign? 
    In fact I have. And I think the fans will be pleased.
    Source: https://variety.com/2019/film/features/director-tim-miller-terminator-dark-fate-comic-con-1203262797/
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    Palette reacted to Strong Bad in Etika Appreciation Thread   
    I've been super mega gone from the Sonic scene for so long, but Etika is someone I kept up with through the years. From humble beginnings as a SegaSonic Radio DJ to being a famous YouTuber, his passion as an entertainer was obvious from day 1. He wanted to bring smiles to the faces of others, and he did that better than anyone I have ever known.
    He and I would talk on MSN as early as 2006, and bonded over the fact that we had the same birthdate (may 12th!). Later in 2015 we finally got to meet up. He was always so excited about any progression or good parts of my life, encouraging me and helping me. I met up with him at various events and again in 2017 as I hung at his apartment in NYC. He just... he wouldn't let me pay for my own food.... or anything like that. I was his guest of honor, I suppose, that's just how kind he truly was. Infinite kindness. Infinite patience. Infinite smiles. I knew he was hurting, and I reached out to him, but I hadn't got a reply since October... I'm so sorry it came to this, Desmond, and I'm sorry I couldn't help you. I'm in tears over your passing and I'm sorry you were suffering this much. I will never forget you no matter how much time passes.
    I don't much like putting my face on the internet these days, but I'll make an exception.

    Here's to you, Desmond. I love you and miss you so much. Everything hurts, but I can only imagine this is a fraction of the pain you must have felt. I would do anything to hear some Cold Hard Facts from you just one more time. 💔 
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    Palette reacted to Rabid-Coot in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    You might not be able to truly judge a movie until you see it but you can judge when and how that viewing will occur based on the trailers etc. You might decide to see it at the cinema or wait for the digital/disc release maybe catch it on some streaming service or maybe even wait for the TV broadcast.
    Personally I do not like what I have seen and will most likely be waiting for it to be on TV a few years later.
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    Palette reacted to Indigo Rush in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    I want to attack this argument at it's root.
    You do not have to like or defend everything with Sonic it.
    I say this because I've been through that exact same mindset back in my teenage years. I was defending Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 2006 for corn's sake, and it had nothing to do with a genuine appreciation for the product itself, and had everything to do with an implied mandatory solidarity with Sonic in general. I've taken notice that the vast majority of people who defend Sonic's more ridiculous material are either children and teenagers who don't know any better, or adults who happened to get into the franchise at a time when similar ridiculous material was the way it was presented. 
    This trend of blaming the community at large for Sonic's generally negative reputation as a game series is either a disingenuous or a naive perspective, and it wrongly invalidates the years of constructive criticism against Sonic's failings as a whole. Defenders are quick to attack IGN, for instance, (despite the site's founder having worked for them in a managerial position) for being biased against Sonic, not because they take issue with what was said, but because they put a number lower than 7 next to a picture of some box art with Sonic on it. It's a reactionary trend that does more to paint Sonic fans in general as overly sensitive and unreasonable children who don't care about the quality of a product, so long as their favorite character is represented in some shape or form.
    Enter the Sonic movie, where this horridly disfigured abomination of a furry's wet dream shows up, complete with uncanny human proportions and the soul of a corporate shill's merchandising factory, is being defended, not by studied film critics or seasoned and veteran fans of the series, but by kids and teens who take one look at the trailer, see a blue hedgehog running fast and rolling into a ball. They see Sonic in this twisted depiction of Hollywood's absolute worst pedigree, and feel the need to defend it. Because it's Sonic.
    Listen, if y'all really, truly cared about Sonic, you would ask for better than this; and seeing as not just Sonic fans, but the general public decried the film's main character for looking nothing like the character it's supposed to be representing it, I'm wondering how much thought you've actually put into this. If I can show a picture of Furry Movie Sonic to my older co-worker and they have to scrunch their brow and squint their eyes for a few seconds before saying "...is that Sonic?" then you done dog gone plum done screwed up, ya idiots. 
    Demand better. If a bunch of rando's on the Internet had enough sense to ask for it, then why aren't you on the frontlines? 
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