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Ah yes, the worst things they could look like are the modern games, characterized by all these things the modern games don't look like

Sonic's fur texture now looks less realistic than what Adventure 1's original fur texture was even going for.

saying something is "anime" doesn't actually make it anime

at most the humans sure were anime, the rest is just "what if NiGHTS textures got made more realistic (read: worse) or something"

"Football halves for feet" 😂😂😂😂

Can't say I expected this much backlash 😅

I think it's disingenuous to say that the Adventure games weren't presented with an explicit shonen flair that is completely different from contemporary Sonic. I don't particularly appreciate the Pixar-ification of Sonic's design and aesthetic; I feel Unleashed's amazing fidelity is often conflated as Sonic's aesthetic peak. It's a taste thing for sure, but all I meant to say is that if they do revisit the Adventure games, I'd be really disappointed if they were so uninspired as to just eschew all the identity and charm in favor of making them look like Sonic Forces.

I don't have any real issue with SA1's art design, I'm just not sure what is especially "anime" about it other than the human characters' eyes. Which given how things progressed from there possibly wasn't even what they were going for.

The "shounen flair" is only expressed in the writing.

I don't think that's true at all, but I wonder if we're getting hung up on semantics. Anime doesn't necessarily have to mean one specific thing, but a broader design ethos that's generally more flamboyant, exaggerated, and/or dramatic. The Open Your Heart opening, for instance, has always read to me as an anime opening. To your point, writing generally effects everything from characterizations to overall tone, which is why the Adventure games have such bold shonen styles.

Humans in Sonic remained anime until Unleashed before disappearing altogether. Even in 06, humans weren't rendered to be photo realistic, but about on par with something like Final Fantasy people. No one in real life looks like Elise or Eggman; they just went for less exaggeration in the aesthetics to evolve the series' edge with the times. 

This feels extremely subjective and not something anyone outside purists will care about. Why wouldn't they update the look to modern standards, that's half the point of a remake.

This is like complaining Pokemon remakes look more like their contemporary generations than the one they're remaking.

They should bring them up to modern standards for sure. But seeing as this series has has lacked any edge, style, or personality for what feels like an eternity, revisiting the Adventure games only for them to default to status quo would be such a huge missed opportunity.

Once again, this is subjective. Nobody outside of fanatics thinks that; even Forces got at most, a "meh" from pretty much everyone outside of the fanbase screaming their heads off. 

I understand a need of staying true to the original game out of a desire of preserving your good memories with it, but half of the point of a remake is making it for Modern audiences. If all they do is just a face lift, then you're missing the opportunity on doing something new to entice people. 

Remakes are a slippery slope, but I've never jived with the mindset that it has to be 100% like the original, because in that case, just play the original.

Believe it or not, I don't live in a Sonic bubble. At best, most laypeople who play games are annoyed Sonic continues to exist and certainly no one is admiring its aesthetic qualities anymore. Not sure what the point is in calling my opinions subjective, because of course they are, but I think saying "meh" is good enough is just going to keep Sonic where he is in most peoples' perspective. But I'm well aware it's not our call in the end. I can dream. There's no need to insult me.

I never said it has to be 100% like the original; there are absolutely improvements to be made. My point doesn't come from nostalgia, but from a desire to see this series do some introspection to hopefully remember what made it so compelling & unique. I think realizing Uekawa & co's early art/ideas with modern tech could look incredible and potentially revitalize a series that used to be known for its penache. That's all I'm saying. 

The fixed camera is how they get away with a lot of their visual tricks

They totally use perspective in really crazy ways for supers, etc but I mean those are all polygonal character models. I just want to run around in a world that looks that strikingly cel shaded.

They also deal with a small number of environments due to the nature of the genre. I think we're a ways off on seeing something like that on a larger scale but I'd like to be wrong

The new TWEWY trailer reminded me how much I want it, specifically that last shot. I just want cel shading to evolve. It's criminal how underrepresented it is in games.

I just want Sprites back...

Gravity Rush is fantastic and more people need to play it.

It's currently on PS Now, so you could get the free trial and use it to play it. If you don't have a PS4, I think Now works on PC too.

Yeah, this is my problem. I play games pretty exclusively on Xbox. Laptop's a toaster that I don't like to play games on and I have no PS4 or Vita. 

This is the path I chose, for better and for worse. But MS seems to be making more of an effort to reach out to Japan. Never would've thought we'd get a Kingdom Hearts collection or Nier, so maybe there's hope. 

No hope for GR unfortunately, it’s a Sony owned property.

That said, even a toaster laptop should be able to handle PS Now I think. It doesn’t actually run anything on it, but just streams the game from actual hardware. As long as your internet is up to snuff, it should be doable I think.

The next Sonic game is the best game ever. It is literally my favourite game of all time and everyone just gives it a hard time because they're classic fanboys or adventure fanboys and can't accept anything that's even slightly different. You're all so entitled and ungrateful to SEGA! Go back to IGN, you biased Sonic hater. Me and the Next Sonic Game Defence Squad will teach you all a lesson. Don't mess with us.

The New Sonic Cycle: Game comes out, people rightfully damn it, others come to defend it, "give SEGA at least one more chance"

To say they blew what'd been their last chance would imply that they could even stand a chance by that point. I'm just here to see how deep they'll dig themselves from here on while every other big platformer mops the floor with his spikes. Point me in Evening Star's and the movies' direction, then we can talk about chances. 

SEGA gonna be like "we're committed to quality and we're gonna make Sonic good again next time" for the 10th time.

Wonder what evening star has been up to anyway?