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Everything posted by Zaysho

  1. Guess it's a Kid Buu situation where he shares some things with another incarnation but this time with Goku. I'm alright with this. If anything, if you remove the Genki Dama from his move pool, it'd essentially be Path to Power Goku. I do hope Super Saiyan 4 is part of some special attack, though. Really the only downside is Nadolny won't be voicing him in English. Kinda hoping the final slot goes to like Yi Xing Long/Omega Shelong if they're going to do some GT rep.
  2. At this point, I hope the final DB FighterZ DLC slot is GT Vegeta with a mustache alt.

    1. Forte-Metallix


      He shaved that moostashe, you idiot!

    2. Ryannumber1gamer


      You have earned a trophy! - I told you to split town Nappa 

  3. Zaysho


    Congrats on the milestone, man. Here's to another hundred.
  4. (tweet) I had to see this, so do the rest of you


  5. Zaysho

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - PLEASE SPOILER TAG LEAKS

    Eh, that feels like a bit of a different case. We've known about Joker, officially, for the last three months and they've just teased a bit about an upcoming update to coincide with him. I assume when it gets closer to the update/a potential (at this point, fairly likely) port of Persona 5 announcement we'll finally see something--though by then the character will probably just drop on the eShop.
  6. As I've been rewatching Dragon Ball Super on and off by catching up with the dub, I find I just plain don't like it that much. My biggest issue with it is that they needed to place it before the ending of the original manga/Z when it would have worked fine/better as an actual continuation after those events. GT was already written off as an alternate universe, so it just feels weird to cram all this stuff into a four year period (part of a longer ten year period) that was always treated as not being a big deal and a point where Goku just literally forgot to talk to any of his friends because he was busy preparing to meet Uub.

    1. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      I'd honestly rather they just ignore that stuff at this point, Z's ending was never really very good and mostly just evident of Toriyama's fatigue with writing the series. I have a running theory that the only reason they haven't completely overwritten it and GT's area of the timeline is because Super Saiyan 4 is still marketable.

    2. Wraith


      They will start digging up GT stuff too soon. They're running out of shit to mine from Z lol

    3. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      If nothing else, it would be an impressive feat to see Toriyama improve upon that series' elements as much as he did Broly.

    4. Wraith


      I mean technically there's still a lot of movie shit to reinterpret. I think we will get some Cooler at least before we dive into the madhouse.

      Salvaging Super Saiyan 4 is kind of a no brainer that I think they're already setting up for. Making Pan an actual character would be nice but I'm not getting my hopes up.

      I don't see shit like Baby ever getting touched but we'll see.

    5. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      My problem with most movie villains vs. Broly is that while sucking was pretty much universal, Broly was at least not a direct takeoff of any previously-existing character. Cooler is just Frieza but blander. Slug and Turles are the same way.

      Super Saiyan 4 isn't something I'm particularly opposed to, I just hate that A. It's called Super Saiyan fucking 4 when that's not even what it is at all, and B. it's colors are shit. I feel like with Ultra Instinct becoming a thing and Broly's wrath form using the Oozaru's power, SSJ4 feels a little redundant, though.

      Pan being a character is fine so long as she's not the character GT Pan was. Honestly with a title change and more focus on Trunks, Goten, Uub, Bulla and Marin, I'd honestly like for them to do a Boruto-type generational thing in the post-GT time period.

      Aside from that most of GT can eat it. All of it's villains are bland, ugly and generic, with weirdly similar facial features and universally-awful color design (is this just something specific to Nakatsuru?). The vague approximation of ideas that are "A parasite that infects and turns the heroes against Goku and co" and "evil dragons based on DB overuse/misuse" and "something from hell" are all decent starting points, but I don't want anything that actually resembles GT itself.

      Oh, and fuck the sentiment of "they just need to follow Toyotaro's manga! Toyotaro will save us!". Dude had his chance and has squandered it time and time again.

    6. Zaysho


      tbh GT could have been overwritten and had parts of it (i.e. SSJ4) salvaged. Even though it's more of a hindsight type of thing, Broli kind of proved they can recreate whatever the hell they want without needing to actually continue the original storylines. I personally think it would have been cool to tie the God and SSJ4 forms together.

    7. Wraith


      Most of the villains are derivative but I don't think that'll mean much if they see a story they could pull from it. I think they'll avoid more direct rips like Turles but Cooler is at the very least an excuse to use Frieza again.

      Broly's wrath form is what will lead directly into Super Saiyan 4. It might even be a form exclusive to him IMO.

      I'm just interested in more female Saiyans that don't suck shit. She probably won't do much in the long run because that's not what Dragon Ball is really about but I'll take fodder to pad out the fighting game rosters at this point. Anything!

      Dragon Ball couldn't even let Goku go for Gohan. As much as I'd prefer it as a generational story that starts from point zero every 10 years or so, I think it'll be Goku's story as long as Toriyama is around and shit as soon as he isn't.

      Toyotaro largely sucks I agree but I like the new villain he's setting up in the latest chapters. Or at least, I like his design a good deal more than the last few villains.

  7. What gets me about this is that this map was specifically done for "Brave New World," a story he wrote and (well, mostly) illustrated. It's kind of weird to learn he apparently rejected this concept later on because it's what opened up how to develop the world of the comic. Like, when did that happen?
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    okay but who is asking for this

    1. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      "Sonic fans want this" aka "I want this but want it to seem like it's more objective than it is"

    2. Sean


      Isn't Mephiles just the prototype Super Sonic from the Sonic X pilot? Mephiles isn't even really his name, it's just the Japanese word for "mystery"

    3. Bobnik


      @Sean ok i'm bad at reading what's irony and what's not on the internet so pls tell me that was joke

      And as much as people are laughing here, I actually know several people that really liked him in 06 and want him back as a villain. Hell, I actually didn't really mind him, cuz he actually accomplished something noteworthy (even if that did get erased from the timeline anyway).

    4. Ferno


      people capitalizing whole words in youtube video names just scream clickbait imo

    5. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      @Sean That's Nazo you're thinking of. Mephiles isn't even Japanese, it's derived from Mephistopheles.

    6. Ferno


      Before seeing the cutscene showing Mephiles coming from Shadow's shadow, I still remember thinking that mephiles was the lifeform from the 2nd Ark capsule in Sonic X, a random plot point that was never explained. (back when I was a kid and sonic x was still airing I saw the show as semi-canon at the time. '06 adapting Sonic X things like shadow's rings being power inhibitors didn't help and only made X feel that much more potentially canon to me.)

    7. mayday2592


      Only thing he had going for him was the fact he looked  like something from  Sonic's world for atleast part of the game. Sure  he spent alot of time as a recolored Shadow, but ill take it over the hyper realistic monsters that stuck out like a sore thumb.

    8. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      Ok, I'll admit it. I kinda want Mephiles back. I kinda like a manipulative bad guy, besides he was so hammy that it made me like every time he popped up. I did think several times over tje years he could be back (Time Eater I was damn sure of, Ian Flynn agreed if I remember) but alas no. Oh well, he can keep popping up as cameo's in my cartoons.

    9. Ferno


      the only way i'd accept him coming back is if he had some petty "who's more evil" argument with infinite

    10. Polkadi~♪


      Okay villain

      Okay character

      Not worth bringing back outside of the context of the game


      and also he's dead and will never come back

    11. Blacklightning


      There's aspects of him that I like but his design is hella inconsistent in pretty much every area, and he'll always have the stigma of "basically crystalline Shadow" no matter what they do with him. Not to mention actually bringing him back from total timeline erasure is absolute Diabolus Ex Machina asspulling - it's pretty telling that they simply invented Infinite instead whenever they wanted to use that specific edgy niche again.

    12. SupahBerry


      He's gone down in history as being from the game that killed Sonic.



      And everyone knows Sonic fans think things too litterally.

    13. Sean


      @Waveshocker Sigma No I'm pretty sure I'm right. Mephiles means "mystery." Mystery means "no one gets left behind"

    14. Celestia


      Every time I see that thumbnail I have to laugh because I like literally all of those other characters there (except Lyric I guess) whereas the only kinda neat thing about Mephiles is his powers and like...I'd rather just have a new char who can do similar stuff.

    15. Ferno


      he's the only villain who just "shot" the hero like a smart person so he kinda has the edge there tbh

    16. Sean


      (tiny galaxy brain) "Why doesn't the villain just shoot the hero"

      (biiiiig galaxy brain) "Why doesn't the villain just date the hero"

    17. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma



      Wait, does that mean Amy Rose si secretly a villain trying to use the tactic of dating the world's hero in order to immediately rise to power and create her own legion of powerful heirs afterwards?

    18. Ferno


      @Sean that just gives "lets crack that eggman wide open" a whole new meaning

    19. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      @Ferno Don't forget "I'll NAIL that Eggman! Can't let him escape!"

  9. Zaysho

    Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)

    Yeah when I watched the film it seemed like it jumped around a bit even during the Saiyan backstory stuff. The worst example I can think of is the transition (or lack thereof) between Bardock and Gine sending Goku off and Bardock's rebellion/destruction of Planet Vegeta. At most showing Bardock actually staging the rebellion/giving some kind of shout out to the original TV special would have been really nice. That being said, if they made a short manga about young Vegeta and Raditz based on the cut storyboards, I'd fucking buy it (and I hate Dragon Ball Minus).
  10. Zaysho

    Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)

    Well that's not quite accurate. From what I read, they were storyboarded sequences and they didn't make it past that stage. It did sound like some interesting Saiyan history stuff, but it probably wasn't relevant to the actual story--just more fanservice on top of fanservice (which I'd be okay with if they did include it). I think they would have advertised an extended cut by now since the home release is right around the corner, so I can't say I'm holding my breath. Though here's hoping a storyboard book or something similar comes out.
  11. For future reference, this is the sort of thing Sean already talked about in the rules appended to the opening post. I'd appreciate it if we could avoid these sorts dismissive non-arguments and generalizations because they're tired and drag the topic around in circles (again).
  12. Free will? Pitiful humans! War, segregation, hatred! Is that what you've done with your free will, boy? Don't you lecture me with your $30 haircut, Goku dies!

  13. Probably in the sense that the model looks fine in motion even though the character design itself isn't good. Which is about what I would expect tbh
  14. Zaysho

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog

    I think it'd be kind of nice to have a villain that isn't really affiliated with Eggman. Much as I loved the Egg Bosses in reboot Archie, it seemed like a waste to have all the major villains under Eggman's heel. Even groups like the Armada (Naugus was the only exception and he wasn't present until near the end of the ongoing arc). Makes me a bit torn on Starline since I think he's probably my favorite addition that I've seen in IDW but he seems like the type of character I'd prefer following his own plans and even getting in Eggman's way instead of helping him. I could be wrong though. I haven't read the most recent issues so for all I know he could be similar to previous Egg Bosses or pre-reboot Archie characters like Lien-da who were only helping build Eggman's forces so they can reap the benefits when he falls.
  15. As terrible and embarrassing as SoA's PR for Sonic is, I don't think it's a good idea to go harassing companies over it.
  16. More than anything, I just find the design to be really generic. It might as well be a knock-off. I don't really have any doubts that the thing will look fine in motion, because that's a bare minimum expectation for a movie being produced by a major studio, but that doesn't mean it's appealing. TMNT 2014 had some pretty good special effects, but I still thought the designs were hideous. It's especially disappointing when you look at how Legendary translated the Pokémon designs for Detective Pikachu, and didn't really compromise on any aspects of the core designs to bring them to life in a realistic setting. Maybe not all those designs translated perfectly (Psyduck comes to mind) but it's an effort I appreciate much more to Sonic's. The basic features are the same, but it's strange to me that a fantasy movie supposedly necessitated such a huge change to a character design that is already really iconic and charming. This is just change for the sake of change. Also, we all knew Penders was going to comment on this no matter what lol. I kinda want to rerail this topic away from him since he's basically using that post to shill a project he's never going to release and he doesn't deserve the attention.
  17. Zaysho

    Consequences of a Dreamcast-Era Split

    You don't have to play every single card in your hand. We saw what happened when Sonic Team did that already, and the results were bloated, unfocused, and, frankly, insulting to anyone who remotely cares about this series' world and characters. "Dreamcast" is "Modern". This sort of arbitrary split isn't going to bring up the quality of one or even guarantee the other will see any use again. Elements like GUN and the Gizoids are part of the series' history and worldbuilding, and they're there if they are needed to draw upon from the background. The problem isn't the series or these elements, it's the people working on it.
  18. I'm being a lot more generous considering a moderator JUST ABOVE YOU (here and here) said this isn't an argument. "Whoo-hoo, guy who works on the movie says he's excited." And? Don't answer that, because I don't care. The next response that's pointing to BASIC PR as proof that this movie will be good is getting locked, no questions asked and if I see another snide remark like this it'll be followed by further staff action. I don't think we have a ban per se, but we had one member who was kind of just using this thread for posting his own art so we suggested they make their own showcase thread.
  19. I don't get the point of this, but no drive-by image-only posts unless you're looking to help this thread along to its second closure.
  20. https://www.funimation.com/dbz30th/

    Sure glad Funimation is taking to crowdfunding to create a release of this really obscure property.

    1. Ryannumber1gamer


      Funi in a nutshell:


    2. Zaysho


      I own the Dragon Boxes, I haven't had to give a shit about Funimation making consistently bad releases for DBZ for the past six years but it still pisses me off that there will likely never be a proper commercial release for this series.

    3. Ferno


      for the love of god toei/ funimation, give the original Dragon Ball series some attention

    4. Ryannumber1gamer


      Would it just kill them to say "Oh hey, for DBZ's 30th anniversary, maybe, just maybe we should do a proper release of the series like the Dragon Boxes instead of them being so stupidly limited".

      Like, the Orange Boxes are well over a decade old at this point and remain the only affordable way of getting the series. Surely it couldn't be that expensive to clean up the originals' image and not try to force it into wide-screen and release proper affordable Blu-Rays of the series.

      I would love to get these at some point, since I only have the DVD orange boxes, but I don't really wish to commit to having to buy a massive set of DB Blu-Rays that go upwards of £200 at once. I'd like to slowly get the blu-rays one at a time so they're more cost effective. Instead, Funimation is repeating their mistakes yet again - they make a highly sought after re-release of the series, it'll be sold out quickly and go rarer even more quickly - especially since it's a limited stock and only buyable as one entire bundle - and we'll be back to complaining about the orange bricks still being the only affordable option to get the series.

    5. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      Since the webpage won't let my country look at it, what series is it? 

    6. Strickerx5


      Eh... idk. I mean in this case, it is and it isn't specifically crowdfunding. They aren't really asking people to fund a full release of it. Just for people who are interested to put their money on the line up front before going through the production of those orders. It's pure pre-order bs, but idk. Funi has never really seemed like the sort of company to me that has big pockets so them trying to make something like this happen for the fans that want it does seem... somewhat harmless?

      I realize DBZ is a huge brand and all but real talk, sometimes huge brands come in at a lost with this kind of stuff. Could easily be out of the loop with this one but imo, this doesn't seem all that bad.

    7. Ryannumber1gamer


      @The Tenth Doctor

      It's Z. A proper re-release in 4:3.

      It's also stupidly limited and only comes in a special edition complete series with a statue.


    8. Zaysho


      @Strickerx5 I'm calling it "crowdfunding" because the release won't be made without the orders. Perhaps it's not the best word, but it doesn't exactly make me hopeful this will lead to a better more widely available release. Also, bear in mind Funi is owned by Sony now, so

    9. Wraith


      laughing at toei, funi etc continuing to be hilariously frugal with one of the most popular IPs on the planet for no reason 

    10. Strickerx5


      @ZayshoAh, true true

      Though I gotta say, I'm a bit surprised about the want for such a thing now. With everything moving away from physical media (especially tv made content), I was under the impression that such a release wouldn't be that sought after. The entire series is already fully available on Funi's streaming service so that pretty much removes the need of having the pure video files readily available.

      Seriously thought I was one of the few still going out to stores and buying blu-rays. XD Glad to see that there's still a big demand for them.

    11. DiamondX


      I agree with Ryan on the part that it being so limited is stupid.

      Also, how come it's the 30th anniversary for the Japanese airing but the collection is US only? Would it hurt so much to make it available globally?

    12. Tornado


      Surely it couldn't be that expensive to clean up the originals' image and not try to force it into wide-screen and release proper affordable Blu-Rays of the series.

      The problem is that it could, and very easily. The Orange Bricks was a rushed, atrocious remaster with laughable shortcuts and a farmed out production to a studio incapable of doing it even if they had the money to do so.



      That still cost 2 million to do, and that was only going from the original 16mm prints to DVD. The process is cheaper and faster nowadays, but it isn't easier to do it right; and since Toei is currently in the process of putting out their own shitty worse-than-Orange Brick equivalent on Blu Ray in Japan, Funi would need to do it all themselves. No Japanese Dragon Boxes sort of help. Luckily Funi has their own masters of the show and have already in theory done a bit of work that could maybe be used from their earlier attempt at a real BD remaster from the cancelled "Level" sets. That's still hundreds of episodes they'd need to individually remaster from the original, aged and infamously uncared for 16mm master.

  21. You have to remember this was back when the film was still being developed under Sony (and presumably that's also true of the tweets from nearly three years ago). Even though the basic hybrid film idea was always part of this, Robichau, and likely even higher ups at Sony, probably had a much different vision for Sonic than Paramount does.
  22. Can't believe I've gone this whole time not realizing there was a Japanese Sonic Twitter account that isn't shitposts

    1. dbzfan7



  23. Weren't these starter species (though not the final design) leaked a year ago? I remember really wanting a fire bunny when I saw a drawing of one but had to come down immediately because they were fake

    1. Pawn


      Are you thinking of these?


    2. QuantumEdge


      While I prefer Scorbunny to this one, I so wanted the platypus and lemur to be true.

    3. tailsBOOM!


      These ones were new.  The fire bunny was a lucky guess

    4. Strickerx5


      Why do I like the fake ones more than the ones we got...

      Though then again, I always feel this way about most of the starters for a while after their announcement; only to eventually like them in the end.

    5. tailsBOOM!


      I prefer Scorbunny and the Grass Monkey, but the platypus is sick

    6. Zaysho


      @Pawn yup those are the ones. Guess the bunny was really the only one though the grass type was close. Honestly I kinda prefer the fake version of the fire type (it's just so fucking cute) but I'm pretty happy with the official ones overall.


  25. Check your persecution complex at the door and read my post again. Your inability to argue with people and telling them to shut up/insult them for not thinking the same way you do was being called into question not your opinion. And, no, that isn't "hate speech" and it boggles my mind you sincerely believe a dissenting opinion about a Sonic movie falls into that.

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