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  1. When you said Damian Wayne, for some reason, I was thinking of Jason Todd. I don't know why but I was. That would have been worse in my opinion. Damian, I only really know from that Super Sons comic where he hangs out with Superman's kid. I wouldn't mind that. A Super Sons game styled like the dark as shit Arkham games. Talk about a weird as fuck experiment.
  2. Archie Sonic Issue #44 - Black and Blue and Red All Over Oh hey. Evil Sonic’s back. Finally. An excuse to see Sonic get his ass kicked and be expected to enjoy it because he’s the villain and I’m supposed to. We begin with Rotor showing off his gun to Sonic. This is the beginning of one of those weird PSAs you see on TV where the kid shows his parent’s gun to his friend and then accidentally blows his friend’s fucking brains out. Of course, this ain’t no ordinary, every day gun. This is… an advanced gun. That’s right. When Rotor fires this at you, forget turning into swiss cheese. You’ll be lucky to be a bubbling puddle of nacho sauce on the floor. This is reminding me of a scene from a comic way down the line (I don’t remember which one but I definitely remember reading it at least once) where Rotor says to Fiona that the Freedom Fighters don’t use guns. “It’s just not how we do things” or something. Now, even before I saw Rotor weilding a gun or even really before I knew much of anything about the Freedom Fighters, I knew for a fact that this was horeshit. This also reminds me of a comic waaaay down the line during the Flynn era, where Rotor calls back to the line he said about not using guns and calling himself a hypocrite for it, which just makes me love Ian’s writing even more. Now, I’m spending a lot of time talking about this gun because of one very simple fact. The comic doesn’t. It kind of forgets this even happened as we move on. I have no clue why a page and a half was dedicated to this but… when you’ve got big guns, show them off I suppose. No, the real meat and potatoes starts when Rotor gets a signal on his monitor. Again. Turns out there’s trouble brewing on Angel Island. Better go deal with it. Oh wait. No. They say they have to go tell Sally for some reason. I guess cause she’s their leader or whatever. Then Sally runs in and says “No need, I’m already here.” Oh wow. Thanks. We got that totally necessary step out of the way really quick. Let’s move! That was a crack at this whole Freedom Fighters system thing. I apologize. I know it’s a different book but I can’t turn off the part of my brain that’s just like “If this were Sonic as I know him, he and Tails would just take off. Why’s he gotta answer to this princess… fuck…” To be fair, the comic isn’t wasting any time. They rush to the plane and Antoine is already there, I guess because he read the previous pages and knew what was up. That’s when they take off and we cut to Knuckles who is currently headed for the Chaos Chamber where they hold all the Chaos… I mean the Chaos Emerald. Yeah, that’s still weird. Also, this is a good time to point out that the art in this issue… ain’t the best. Say hello to Silly Puddy Knuckles ladies and gents. Jesus Christ Knuckles. Look at those cankles. Get yourself a burger, girlfriend. Anyway, he gets inside and Evil Sonic is there. He’s Sonic but he needs a leather jacket to pretend he’s cool rather than a runny mouth. He talks like a fake gangster and everything. Ya mook. He says he’s there for the emeralds and says that “Just because YOUSE guys have problems don’t mean we hafta solve ‘em for ya!” Knuckles’ question is “We?” My question is “What? Are we gonna ignore the fact that what he just said made no sense?” Anyway, yes, “We?” is a valid question too since Evil Sonic seems to be the only one there. But then an arm from off-screen punches Knuckles in the face and it’s revealed that it’s attached to… shock-horror, another Knuckles. It’s… Irish Knuckles. “And I’m not one to trifle with once I get me IRISH up!” is a line that Irish Knuckles says when he punches Knuckles in the face. He’s Knuckles except he’s Irish and he’s got blue eyes and a stupid cap on his head. Irish Knuckles has teamed up with Evil Sonic, a version of Sonic who wears sunglasses and a leather jacket, to fight regular Knuckles. Listen, I’m fucking serious. This is what’s happening. Oh and Knuckles lost. Knuckles lost to Irish Knuckles. After that, Archimedes, the ant guy, shows up and says he showed up when he got the news that Knuckles got his ass kicked. Knuckles says, quite appropriately, that he didn’t know news traveled that fast and Archimedes replies by saying that there’s still things that Knuckles doesn’t know about him… … Then he proceeds not to tell us what that is. I guess it’s just a super duper secret how he’s able to find out the “news” of something that literally just happened seconds ago. I may be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that I never will. Anyway, Knuckles and the Ant leave to see Sonic and the others show up. Knuckles realizes that it’s going to be “one of those days”. Knuckles describes to them who invaded his home and Sonic feels like he might know who that is. A description like “Looks exactly like you except was wearing a leather jacket and glasses” isn’t exactly the hardest thing to figure out. Next thing you know, we’re on the Cosmic Interstate. Sonic is on the road while the others are literally flying an airplane through the Cosmic Interstate. It’s really weird. Again, I have to re-state, that this is another one of those situations where they’re calling back to something I read but completely forgot about because it was during the time before I started to chronicle this stuff. I totally didn’t remember that they went to the Cosmic Interstate before. The memory isn’t so bad here because I have a pretty vague idea of what it is. It’s just the road to these other dimensions. Like a less dangerous version of the void or whatever. Although, I don’t know what happens if you fall off Snake Way here. Anyway, we get to the… stupid shit inside the plane when Knuckles turns to Sally and brings up their wholly unnecessary secret past. I’m being serious here too. This is some dumb shit. I truly don’t understand what Penders thinks the end goal of this is going to be. I feel like he isn’t seriously attempting to set-up a possible love rival with Sally in Knuckles… but I can only really feel this way because I know it doesn’t go anywhere up to where I’ve read. Yet, that’s also kind of disingenuous of me because I mostly remember issues 160 and beyond. I blocked out the issues from 150 to 159 from my memory (Mostly. Issac the robot guarding a corpse still lingers in my mind...) and I’ve literally read none of the stuff before that up until where I am at this moment. So maybe there was a Knuckles and Sally… thing that happened that no one talks about. This is certainly the first I’ve heard of them having a past together in these books. I guess it’s just THAT negligible. No one’s ever like “remember when Penders tried to trick us into seriously believing that there MIGHT be a chance Knuckles posed a threat to Sonic’s unhealthy on-again, off-again relationship with Sally? Boy, wasn’t that a weird, pointless experiment?” This mostly just feels like a pointless detour to trick people into wondering “Well… MAYBE there’s something going on between these two” even though he knows damn well there’s no chance he’ll make it a serious thing. I feel like that has to be the case, otherwise I’d be forced to believe that Penders was so up his own ass when it came to writing Knuckles that he seriously considered putting the idea out there that Knuckles could do the nasty with Sally. Meanwhile, he’s, at the same time, trying to already do that with Geoffrey St. John. Although, because Geoffrey’s his own character, his narcissism is making it so that Geoffrey’s a lot more forward and creepy about it. Considering how I never hear anyone go to bat for Geoffrey and Sally as a pairing and I’ve literally never even HEARD of people pairing Knuckles and Sally, it would seem these attempts to set up OTPs for the rabid fans of pairings out there didn’t succeed. That’s astonishing to me because fans will literally make up shit when it comes to pairings. Putting one in their mind and having it have NO lasting effect has got to be a huge sign that you just don’t know how to resonate with an audience. What am I saying though? It couldn’t be that this book lasted because Sonic was popular and not because Penders was a writing genius. No. Perish the thought. Considering how bad I know the book is going to get soon, joking about that doesn’t even feel right. I mean, seriously, this shit that Knuckles and Sally talk about here doesn’t even mean anything. Sally arrived on the island with her dad and she came across Knuckles at random. The two of them sat down and had a heart to heart about how hard it was to be in their positions. Identifiable? Relatable? Sure, but that doesn't at all feel like the reason this is being forced in here. Knuckles had to go back to his dad and couldn’t talk with her again lest his father find out that he broke the rules of his apprenticeship. I don’t know what those rules are but I assume he’s not allowed to talk with anyone... ? I guess? The book makes it seem like Locke didn’t even know Sally and King Acorn were on the island with this passage but I’m not entirely sure how they could have hidden from him if they arrived by loud flying craft and stayed there for part of their vacation. Well, anyway, Knuckles asks if they should tell Sonic and Sally gives the lazy, “Deal with it later” answer that I knew she was gonna give. They land in the Opposite Day Zone and Sally is given the run down that in this world, everything is flipped upside down. The Freedom Fighters are the bad guys and Robotnik is a kind family doctor. They illustrate this by showing Evil Sonic kicking a Swat-Bot in the butt which… is not any different from what regular Sonic does, so maybe not the best example. Unless the commentary here is that Sonic and Evil Sonic are more alike than they think. I can get behind that. Rotor sends a flying… thing to scan the area for… stuff and Sonic asks if it’s ironic that they use technology to try and take down a technological dictator. I mean, I guess they are living in a subtle environmental message. It’s probably smart to pretend as though the technology itself is evil and not the way it’s used… right? Of course not. That's dumb. Moving on. Evil Sonic and Irish Knuckles jump out of the bushes and attack. Now they get into a fight! Sonic taunts Evil Sonic and makes him look like a wuss. He gets his ass kicked fairly easily by the end of this so I’ll just focus mostly on the Knuckles fight. These fights apparently go on for quite a while. There’s no point in doing a play by play because it’s just some punches and some cartoony fight clouds. Tails completely undermines the fight by looking at his watch and telling the audience that the fight is uninteresting and boring. I mean, I guess I can give Penders credit for having the guts to tell the audience when the events of your comics aren’t interesting. Than again, Rotor immediately says he’s enjoying it after Tails says this so… maybe this was him trying to head the audience off at the pass. Thankfully, they shift gears fairly quickly here. All of a sudden, despite having no problems punching the shit out of Knuckles up to this point, Irish Knuckles pulls back his fist and says he’d hate to do this… so he won’t. Then he just stops fighting. Then Sonic slams Evil Sonic into the dirt beside them, having won his fight because he’s objectively better than Evil Sonic now. I suppose. Irish Knuckles explains that he should never have resorted to violence in the first place, no matter what the reason. He then explains that the Chaos Emeralds powering his island are being drained and that if he doesn’t restore it soon, all will perish. Knuckles, for some reason, gets even more upset at him for this, proclaiming that Irish Knuckles is a wimp and an embarrassment of a guardian because he doesn’t believe this is worth continuing the fight over. Now, this is dumb for a number of reasons but the main one is the fact that what happens next leads to a proper resolution of the conflict because he didn’t continue to pointlessly fight you. A lot of problems can be solved by avoiding pointless fighting and talking it out with people. Irish Knuckles explains that he doesn’t live on a floating island but an island underneath the sea. Because opposites and shit. The island is surrounded by a big air bubble that’s running out of oxygen due to the energy of the emerald being sucked away. If the oxygen leaves, the bubble is gone and so is all the life on the island. Atlantinopolis is the name of the place and the characters are all on their way there in the next scene… because fighting is dumb when you can just talk things out and get the help you need. Right Knuckles? Sonic, Tails, Sally, Rotor, Knuckles, Irish Knuckles, and Evil Sonic all head to the city together and are directed by Nicole beneath the area towards the sound of intense drilling. It’s being perpetrated by none-other than, of course, Dr. Robotnik. Sonic gasps in surprise, saying that he must not be satisfied with messing with just one world. I guess he blocked Sonic Live from his memory already. Trauma isn’t that easily forgotten in the real world though. Robotnik says this world is a great place to find raw materials but it’s also a great place to test his stuff before he uses them on Sonic. When he says “test his stuff” I assume he also means “An excuse to destroy shit without having to worry about the Freedom Fighters catching on”. Because there’s no war here, Robotnik is able to get away with this because the people living here chalk up any disturbance he makes to natural occurrences. So, random ass earthquakes. Robotnik orders his Swat-Bots to send them through a chute and into the water. We’re shown a scene of the Swat-Bots grabbing Sonic and Knuckles… and the next scene is TAILS coming through the chute, complaining that Robotnik said “Woman and Children first” and proclaiming he’ll get Robotnik for that. It’s an odd transition. VERY odd. We cut back and the next person being shoved into the chute is… Evil Sonic? Evil Sonic says this wasn’t part of the plan and fights off the Swat-Bots. Then, Sonic, Knuckles, Sally, and Rotor surround Evil Sonic and demand to know what this “plan” was. I guess they assumed he was working with them in an honest effort to help out Irish Knuckles save this city. Well, that was silly of them. Also, why did we get shown a scene of the Swat-Bots grabbing Sonic and Knuckles, then jump to a scene of Tails and Evil Sonic being pushed to the chute, and then jump to the next panel where Sonic and Knuckles are suddenly free? There’s like three things wrong with that all at once. Comics are a visual medium. The visuals need to flow and make more sense than this. It gets stranger because after the panel where the characters surround Evil Sonic, we go to the next page where Sonic and Knuckles are headed downstairs to confront Eggman with a little caption box at the top where one of them is finishing their statement to Evil Sonic. I guess this was supposed to be a scene transition past the part where they shove a tire iron up Evil Sonic’s ass but it’s starting to feel like whoever is in charge of paneling this comic is rushing through this. The jumps to the next parts of the scene are incredibly jarring all of a sudden. At least I understand what they were trying to do but things are happening too quick. It’s hard to process it. Sonic says they know everything now. Evil Sonic made a deal with Robotnik for “a piece of the action” but didn’t really know what he was getting into like most small time thugs. They don’t say what the “piece of the action” Evil Sonic was expecting to get was. He hasn’t really done… anything. He fought Sonic but Irish Knuckles fought regular Knuckles too and they BOTH stopped when things were talked over. I don’t think I get what Evil Sonic wanted. Well, whatever. Robotnik’s got a BIG FUCKING GUN and he’s firin’ his lazer everywhere. Archimedes shows up out of nowhere to bitch at Knuckles to get a move on cause, apparently, Robotnik has opened a gateway to their Chaos Chamber. I assume he did that when he fired his gun. So… it can obliterate you but also open paths to other dimensions. Hey, that sounds like what Rotor was saying HIS gun could do in the opening! Maybe this is where that gun comes back into play! You guys remember right? That big fucking gun that Rotor showed off at the start? He claimed it could shoot so hard and fast that it could tear through dimensions and shit. Maybe that seemingly pointless scene will make a creatively written, impressive callba- No. Of course that’s not what Penders does here. Robotnik is shooting all over the place, trying to vaporize the heroes. Sally and Sonic distract Robotnik while Knuckles and Irish Knuckles nab the Chaos Emerald that’s in the Chaos Chamber. They do this while Robotnik is trying to taunt Sonic to the best of his ability but is coming off rather lame. Robotnik: Did I ever tell you what my favorite dish is? Roasted hedgehog! It’s out of this world! Sonic: How would you even know? Robotnik: I’ve had it before! Yum Yum. Eh? I FORGOT THE EMERALD! I like to think he wasn’t lying when he said he’s had it before. The idea that he roasted and ate some poor hedgehog as some sort of sick coping mechanism for dealing with Sonic amuses me in a twisted way. Anyway, yes, the two echidnas managed to grab the Chaos Emerald from the Chaos Chamber thanks to Robotnik opening up a portal back to it. Robotnik, now that he has a Chaos Emerald stolen from Evil Sonic’s world, says he doesn’t need Knuckles’ emerald and fires a blast at it to destroy it. Why he didn’t just aim at the echidnas, I’ve no clue. You’d think he’d still avoid destroying that emerald if he could help it but that doesn’t matter because when he fires at the emerald, this shit happens. So after Robotnik… vanishes, they stick the six emeralds that were made after he destroyed the one emerald into six conveniently made slots and fix the force field around the underwater island. Then they take a bullet train back to the surface where Tails and Rotor are waiting. It’s here where I realize just how pointless it was that the two of them were even here. I guess it’s fine though. It’s not like they felt the need to shoehorn every Freedom Fighter into this story. Bunnie never shows up and Antoine only appears to complain about having to fly the plane and then disappears from the book entirely. So, Sonic gets upset when he realizes that Irish Knuckles never explained what happened to Robotnik. He then explains it but... it doesn’t make any sense. Irish Knuckles says that the blast sent Robotnik back where he came from. So, back to his world… I… but… he also says that he fired that blast to DESTROY the chaos emerald so it couldn’t be used against him. Now this gun that Robotnik was using has the power to ROAST people but also open portals to other dimensions… I assume that’s why the Chaos Chamber suddenly appeared there. Robotnik fired a blast that blew a hole to Sonic’s normal dimension where the Chaos Chamber was. So, I’m guessing the logic Irish Knuckles is trying to use is that Robotnik fired the blast onto the Chaos Emerald and it bounced off the emerald and sent him back home… but, he says that Robotnik was trying to send them on a trip but he ALSO says he was trying to destroy the emerald. So which is it? Did Robotnik fire a blast that was going to destroy the emerald? Isn’t that sort of what happened? It shattered and six little emeralds were used to re-power the city… and they all already had six emerald slots designated and ready for them to power the island which means that… the six emeralds were held inside an even bigger emerald? But… also it tears through dimensions so it sent Robotnik back home? So it does both at the same time? If Robotnik hit Sonic with that gun would it have fried his body but sent his corpse back to his home dimension? Robotnik’s body didn’t get fried though, I assume. Was it because the part that fries you already destroyed the emerald so he only had to worry about the part that sends you back home when it hit him? Did the laser stat effect waste itself on something and therefore was unable to repeat it again when it hit Robotnik? Did the gun that can cut through dimensions also burn the thing it touches but also can BOUNCE off things it destroys but taniqogkwkqLPfPLEMRBMK. I’m thinking entirely too hard about this. It makes no sense. Evil Sonic complains about still being tied up in the ship. Irish Knuckles calls him laddie again. Then we end on another confusing panel where Rotor says he anticipated using his remote scanner for everywhere except where they needed it. I’m… not sure what he means. He only used it once and, while it’s true they didn’t need it when he used it, where exactly DID they need to use it in that mess? Then the issue just… stops. It doesn’t even end. It just stops. We don’t get any closure with Irish Knuckles, or Evil Sonic, and Robotnik is… apparently not dead. We don’t see him either. Honestly, I’m really confused as to what the point of all this was. Did Penders even write a story? This is a very consistent problem I’m having with the current issues. He’s making up a bunch of rules that are extremely inconsistent and explaining it in ways that aren’t coherent. It doesn’t help that the structure of this story was a bit strange. It starts off feeling as though its got enough wiggle room to spend time on something pointless and by the end, it doesn’t even have enough time to properly wrap up the story. We’re getting close to the Endgame. Maybe he’s just starting to not give a shit because he thinks the end is near.
  3. I just finished a picture of Sonic and Tails sharing a chili-dog with KO. I'm really proud of this one.



    1. Wraith


      I dig your style

    2. Dr. Detective Mike

      Dr. Detective Mike

      Thanks. I've been working on it ever since I first tried to draw the characters out of the Sonic Heroes Manuel when I was a kid. I still have those drawings. They're hilariously bad. 

  4. KO's First Chili-Dog Bigger Size: https://www.deviantart.com/doctordetectivemike/art/KO-s-First-Chili-Dog-809572361 KO didn't seem to know what a Chili-Dog was when he met his heroes, Sonic and Tails. This was something that needed to be rectified when they met again and luckily, Sonic brought them along this time. Tails is trying his best to keep from choking again. The spiciness of the chili-dog has always been something he's had trouble with.
  5. Well, as an artist, I can tell you that you don't need to be an artist to tell that this thing is off-putting. Having eyes is more than enough in this case.
  6. Yes. I assumed everyone had seen it already since I'm usually the one late to the party but I guess not. Here it is.
  7. I can finally draw fan art of Zombot Charmy now that I know what he looks like thanks to the cover of Issue 22.
  8. Sonic - Taking Up Golf Sonic is the fastest thing alive but you know what? He's shown that he's open to trying new things. Whether it be riding Extreme Gear, racing in cars, or competing in the Olympics, he's always down for something new. So he took up golfing for a bit. You can tell by the look on his face that he's contemplating whether or not he's found an activity he may not be that good at.
  9. Iwata was reading Sonic Live from his favorite comic book author Ken Penders when suddenly he saw a remote turned sideways and said "Brilliant! Ken Penders, I most humbly apologize but I'm stealing your idea! WaWaWaWaWaaa-!" He laughs like Wario. Thats how much he delights in stealing from Ken Penders. The Wii owes its success to goddamn Sonic Live.
  10. Sonic Live! - The Last Game Cartridge Hero It’s finally arrived. It’s finally here. All your favorite nightmares are coming true. The horror you involuntarily dreamed about has come to fruition. Gaze in terror as Sonic has clearly suffered a stroke and his eyes and darting in the opposite direction from the resulting assault on the neurons in his brain. He’s using his newly acquired demonic powers from hell to reach through your TV and steal your children with his freakishly huge, gross, monster hands. I can only imagine how much pain that poor boy is in, having his arm gripped by that freakish alien. Enough about this clearly awful cover, let’s dive into the bullshit. We open on Robotnik, confusingly, poking his head out from his base and screaming into the thunderous night sky for Sonic to come and face him head on “Man-Bot to Hedgehog”. I can only assume Robotnik is drunk. I can’t find any reasonable explanation towards why he’d be doing this. Especially since Sonic is already headed towards him. Sonic goes inside and confronts Eggman, draw so primitively, he’s almost a caricature of himself. Drunk Robotnik pulls out a Sally Acorn who has a thousand yard stare, a curvature that draws attention to how naked she is again, and a device on her head that, I assume, means she’s been hypnotized. There goes Sally, proving her worth again. Sonic confirms her worth by saying the line, “Let her go, Robutt-nik! This is between ME and YOU! Always has been, always will be!” Well, I guess you heard it here folks. The Freedom Fighters are expendable. Robotnik responds by saying Sonic is correct. Sonic says “I’ll get out of this yet.” and Robotnik claims that would make a great epitaph for his tombstone. That’s a great line, admittedly. Sonic has no come back for that sick burn and says “Oh. Guess I’ll just die.” So he does. He just stands there and lets the robots vaporize him. It happens. Hurray! Sonic is dead. All hail Dr. Robotnik! We then cut to a photo of a real child, sitting in his living room, playing what had to have been the coolest fucking Sonic the Hedgehog game released in the early 1990s. He’s complaining about the fact that he died. So, whatever game it was, it had dialogue, a fleshed out story, Naked Sally, SWAT-Bots, SatAM designs, and a Drunk Robotnik. Whoo-wee~! How insane is that? The kid laments this loss because he assumed he was doing well. His sister is being a creeper by hovering over him at an odd angle and doing the “Oh, YOU!” meme face. This is where we get the title “The Last Game Cartridge Hero” which… I guess is supposed to be an homage to “Last Action Hero” because this plot presumably involves someone from a fictional world coming to ours… but… well, in reverse. Sonic actually intends to pull these kids into HIS world as this creepy, ghost white hand coming of the TV to clamp itself on this kid’s skull clearly shows. Sonic, as it turns out, is floating in a green void. He claims it’s like being trapped in one of Rotor’s computers. I guess…? Robotnik, now alone and full of beer, takes Sally to her cell where he has all the other Freedom Fighters locked away. I’ll just go ahead and assume the cell is highly reinforced. Tails calls Robotnik a “Creepola.” I like that. It sounds like something I would say as a kid. Like “Crapola.” Anyway, the two kids return home from school and Sonic, still trapped in the void, overhears them. The kids notice something is up with the TV but before they can figure out what, Sonic grabs them and tries to forcefully pull them through the TV screen. He does this because he can’t get to them for help. Sonic doesn’t consider the fact that he just pulled two children into the television set with no way of knowing how to get OUT of the television set. He literally did this because he himself couldn’t leave. Also, Sonic claims he needs their help. Aside from advice on what’s happening, which they also can’t provide, how and why do you need the help of two human children? When Sonic pulls them in, Sonic ALL OF A SUDDEN mouths off some science babbly gook about how energy surges made it so that he made contact with them and their arrival made the surges stronger. Now he’s willingly forcing these two kids to randomly go where these surges take them next because… I dunno. He’s an idiot? Sonic says that hopefully it’ll take them to Mobius… so he doesn’t KNOW where it's taking them. Oh, would you look at that? As luck would have it, we’ve been transported towards the surface of a planet made entirely of acid. Whoops. At least he won’t die alone. He’s got these two innocent children that he kidnapped to die along with him. Everything about this is a mistake. By the way, the kids are totally cool with being kidnapped by Sonic the Hedgehog and taken away with no clear sign of where they’re going or even if they’ll be able to get back. We cut back to Robotnik and Snively who are doing a bunch of forced music puns all leading up to a joke about how Robotnik wails in defeat whenever he’s beaten. I’m sure it’s funny to somebody. Anywho, the Freedom Fighters are… out of their cells right in front of Robotnik as he gives his latest monologue. There are Swat-Bots behind them so… I assume this is supposed to insinuate that they’re still captured but the problem is that they fight regular Swat-Bots all the time. They don’t look handcuffed or restrained in anyway… In fact, Rotor looks bored. Antoine is staring off into space, wondering whether or not his baguettes are burning in the oven. Bunnie just looks like her stunt-double stayed in the shot for too long. Have I mentioned that the art in this story looks like some shit I’d have scribbled down when I was ten? So Robotnik’s plan is to send a deadly missile into space that’ll somehow place countless killer satellites around Mobius and also send the Freedom Fighters "into eternity" by shoving them into it… Now, I have no clue how that’s supposed to work. Is the missle going to explode into a bunch of killer satellites that’ll fly around the circumference of Mobius? Is the missile going to release the satellites one by one as it shoots into space and then flies around it…? Will it explode when it’s done? Is that how he plans to kill the Freedom Fighters off? Or maybe he thinks letting them drift in space is enough? Fair enough but the practicality of this plan is rather shit. Go back and try again. Also, why can’t Rotor just do science on the missle they get trapped in? Have you run out of techno-babble to explain why you can make that work? For some reason, when the Swat-Bots lift them up to carry them inside the missile, none of the Freedom Fighters try to resist. Once again, I have no clue why. They could easily take these Swat-Bots out but they don’t. Oh wait. Now I remember. Sonic said it was just between him and Robotnik. I apologize. I forgot that the Freedom Fighters are completely expendable. Tails, the only one of the Freedom Fighters who has spoken so far as well as the only one showing any kind of emotion or concern for their situation, asks where Sally is. Robotnik says he shoved her somewhere at the bottom of the missile. Like luggage. So, at that moment, Sonic and the kids come out of the portal. A kid points out that it’s a Swat-Bot in front of them and that it is indeed cool. Sonic, unable to handle something other than him being called cool, reves up his feet and humiliates the poor robot by grinding them against its anus. The Swat-Bots that don’t get humiliated like this show up to grab Sonic. This works until it doesn’t. Sonic, unlike his friends, fights back and easily manages to escape. Oh yeah, the kids are here. Sonic grabs the kids by their arms and jumps down to the lower level of the missile. The kids somehow land without their bones shattering to dust. Once they make it inside the missile, Sonic somehow figures out that there’s only three buttons he can press to make it stop. How he knows this? Fuck if I know. Sonic presses one and it stops. So hurray. Sonic did it by bullshitting his way through a tremendous ocean of luck. They’re clearly not even trying with this nonsense. Sonic had no way of knowing any particular set of buttons would stop this missile and he was given no reason to assume the one he pressed would be the one to stop it. He literally goes “Eenie, meenie, miney, mo” for fuck’s sake. They go down to see that Robotnik and Snively are gone? Why? Because they went through the portal Sonic came through, that’s why. They thought they were done for so they bailed. When Sonic and the useless hanger-ons kids who are totally important and essential to the plot come along, they get sucked into the portal because… I guess the portal felt like being a dick. I mean, it wasn't doing that before but it does it now because...? They end up right in front of Robotnik and Snively where the art-style has changed. Not for the better. Not for the worse. It looks different but it feels equally as awful as the other style. One of the kids points out that the other one looks like they stepped out of a Speed Rider cartoon. If that’s bootleg Speed Racer than that makes sense. You all look like bootleg individuals right now. So here’s where the shit gets confusing. … Yeah, let that sink in. Robotnik is happy to see Sonic. He ambushes him with a shit ton of Swat-Bots and tells them to surrender or else he’ll hurt the two liabilities standing next to him. Here, Sonic actually can’t harm them because these kids are walking targets and shouldn’t even be in this fucking story. They’ve contributed nothing to the plot except to point out what’s happening. Robotnik leads Sonic and the kids along to the next… room? I think they’re inside a base now. There was something that looked like a base behind Robotnik when they arrived but they were standing on a moon crater thing… it looked like they were in Starlight Zone. Whatever. They go inside a room and then we are greeted with this: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?! The boy says he gets it. He then blurts out “Multiple Universes, right?” Okay… but HOW?! Like… what?! Robotnik went into the portal so… I guess that’s supposed to insinuate that he could go to multiple universes… but… HOW did he find ALL these Robotnik’s so fucking fast AND THEN have them begin and almost complete a giant fucking statue of himself? When did he have time to make all this? Sonic was busy pushing a single button in the amount of time it, apparently, took for Eggman to go into a portal, find a shit ton of different versions of himself, build a base, and had multiple Robotniks build a giant statue of himself?????? Also, Sonic sure got lucky that the portal sent him directly to THIS specific location. Wouldn’t want to end up in the Acid Dimension now would we? When Sonic asks Steve, the boy, how he knows about this, Jesse, the girl, says he’s been watching too much “Space Trek”. These kids are weird. Why the fuck are they watching bootleg versions of Star Trek and Speed Racer? You can’t be so poor that you’re unable to afford the real versions of the shows. They cost about the same price as the knock offs on the racks at Wal-Mart. I know it’s because the comic doesn’t want to say the name of the actual show but that’s part of the point. How about you keep your references to yourself if you’re not allowed to actually make the reference? What the fuck is Robotnik doing now? Is he taking the kids and Sonic away? Okay… let’s… do that I guess. Sonic makes a puckered lip, kissy face when he’s tossed onto his stomach in a cell. Sonic meets up with more people in the hole he’s tossed in except this time, they’re adults. I contemplated whether or not these two people were probably guys from the Archie office but then I realized I didn’t care. Robotnik finds a giant globe of Mobius and says that the humans have created a portal to their world in an act to create “so-called entertainment”. He plans to use it to take over the worlds or whatever but oh no, the other Robotniks decide they’re gonna rebel. Does this matter? Nope. Moving on. Inside the cell, the two adult men, Mori and Jerry, reveal that they created Sonic. Yeah, not Yuji Naka or even someone remotely Japanese. These two milk-toast losers made Sonic. Also, they reveal to him that he’s not real. He exists inside a game cartridge. Except no he doesn’t because the sketches of Sonic were transmissions over a device that… something or other and intergalactic space piss… I… I can’t… my brain is fried... Then one of the Robotniks blows the door to their cell down and pulls off her Robotnik mask to reveal a woman underneath???? She says that she was… trying to promote their latest game when this happened???? When WHAT happened???? Someone kidnapped you and forced you into a Robotnik suit complete with a mask??????????????????????????? Then the two made-up creators of Sonic says this shit. I… so… Robotnik is about to be gunned down by the other Robotniks and… Sonic saves him and one of the human guys tells Sonic that he can… save them by punching the access code to the control pad of one of their Sonic games…?????? B-But… how??? Are they IN a game right now? I thought they were in another dimension? They didn’t say shit about being INSIDE a game! Why would punching the access code on a game do… anything? WHAT? Well… they do that and the robots shut down. Then Sonic congratulates the kids on being completely useless. The creators of the "Sonic game cartridge" say that they can send everyone back but it’ll be a one way trip. The how and why is lost to time at this point. I’ve given up. They go back. All the Freedom Fighters are okay. The kids meanwhile, are excited to play the next "Sonic game cartridge". I keep saying "Sonic game cartridge" because THEY keep saying "Sonic game cartridge". Was it a thing back then to say "Sonic game cartridge" instead of Sonic game? I dunno. I don’t actually care. HOOOOLYYYYYYY FUUUUUUUUUCK! Whoever made this, please- Sonic Live! - The Substitute Freedom Fighters My brain is trying to reconstitute itself after that… whatever that was. This new story, I noticed right away, is drawn significantly better than the last story. That ushered in a slight bout of comfort. It begins with Rotor working on something. The other Freedom Fighters, except Sonic, enter and Antoine asks Rotor in Comic Book French-ese what he’s doing. He says he’s created the Micro Belt-Cam. It’s a device that you attach to your belt and it’ll record your fights. He says it’s so that they can review their teamwork. Then they immediately get word that Swat-Bots are attacking and they head off to deal with it and test the cam. The narration box says that they don’t come back. The twist is that they all suffered massive heart attacks on the way to the battle, probably. Well, either way, later Larry Lynx enters and shouts “HEY! IT’S ME! LARRY LYNX!” I remembered him from the Secret Freedom Fighters story arc that happens way, waaaaaay down the line… but the narration box says “Remember him from Sonic #12?” This is happening to me a lot, where I see a character I recognize from the future and the narration box tells me that they actually appeared in an earlier issue that I’ve forgotten. Perhaps it’s because this usually happens with the issues I haven’t chronicled on here. I remember Carl Condor despite him being far less worthless to the plot than Larry, most likely because I actually wrote about him. Or maybe it’s because my brain is melting. Larry has broken into the Freedom HQ uninvited and immediately spots Robotnik shouting about having beaten the Freedom Fighters and Sonic on the monitor. When Larry sees this, he’s astonished and I’m guessing he’s ready to blame himself because he blurts out how whenever he’s around something bad happens. In a more adult oriented comic book, I could see the jokes centered around Larry graciously taking the opportunity to kill a ton of random passersby. If Larry walks by you, look out for falling pianos. Well, anyway, Larry realizes he needs to do something so he runs out screaming for help. He comes across Cyril the Eagle. The caption says “Hey look…! It’s Cyril the Eagle from Issue 12!” Do I remember him? NOPE! As Larry explains that the Freedom Fighters got captured and reveals that Robotnik got rid of Sonic somehow, more people come in to listen, which just amounts to Sally’s gang of Freedom Fighters in training that includes the future council members. They need a plan! So what are they gonna do? Excellent. Beautiful plan. I love it. 10 outta 10. I may sound condescending here but it turns out making it up as they go is actually a really good plan. They got to Robotropolis together and spot the Swat-Bots. When asked how they’ll get rid of them, Larry says he’ll take care of it and runs right in the middle of them all. They say that they’re totally gonna shoot him and he double dog dares them too… The robots fire and somehow end up tripping and flopping about, shooting each other in a perfect square, not landing a single hit on Larry. Cyril flies and finds the entrance for them. Dylan the Porcupine takes a spine off his head and uses it to unlock the door. Hamlin uses himself as a bowling ball to knock away all the Swat-Bots in their way. They’re all over this. What’s strange is that they actually spot Sonic confronting Eggman… he’s okay but there’s no explanation given as to why Robotnik was talking about having gotten rid of him. They ignore him for now and go and free Sally and the other Freedom Fighters. As they’re leaving they say that they need to go find Sonic and move out but the next scene is Sally awarded them with wrist-watches to communicate with them should they need their help again and giving a medal to Larry. She’s made him the new leader of a team called the Substitute Legion of Freedom Fighters. This is all well and good but… what was the deal with Sonic? I mean, the way this story handled him was so strange. He wasn’t with the others in the beginning. Then Robotnik reveals he actually already took care of Sonic before the Freedom Fighters came. Then the Substitute Freedom Fighters spot Sonic confronting Eggman in the background. Then they rescue the other Freedom Fighters, say they need to find Sonic and move out, and then the next scene is Sally awarded them with no Sonic in sight. I don’t even know what to call that. How confusing. This story was fun though. Charming and cute even. I don’t think Larry has this team in the future though so… I’m thinking things may not go well for him. Sonic Live! - Knuckles Quest 2 This is an even better drawn story. It looks amazing, right out of the gate. Plus, it’s a cohesive narrative that’s actually essential to the main plot centered around fixing King Acorn. It looks like this extraneous journey is being pushed out of the way by supplementary material and side-stories so hopefully that means we can take a break from it in the main story. Hopefully. Here, Knuckles has traveled to a remote location within the great forest that’s been untouched and hidden for who knows HOW long. He comes across a bunch of fairy tale creatures that… I was a little confused by at first. I figured they were physical illusions but I wasn't entirely sure. He punches a bunch of cheetahs. He punches a very oddly muscular and veiny looking human male in the face. He punches a dragon in the face. He punches the Grim Reaper in the face. Knuckles is proving that most problems can be solved by a single punch to the face. Knuckles recites the cryptic message the Ancient Walkers gave him about the Charlatan, the enchantress, and the paladin. Knuckles puts two and two together and realizes that he’s entered the domain of the Charlatan because these are all illusions he’s fighting. He comes head to head with the man while trying to explain that he came here peacefully and wishes for help. The Charlatan already knows that the Ancient Walkers sent Knuckles and is pretty chill about letting him in due to being impressed by Knuckles discovering his secret. Knuckles’ response to this is pretty good. I’ll say again, I love the way this is drawn. How such a good drawing of Knuckles exists in the vomit inducing Sonic Live, I’ll probably never fully understand. Unfortunately, hope of this lead being super substantial kind of floors itself here. The Charlatan explains that he used to work for the king and Knuckles mistaking thinks this means he seriously has a chance at getting reliable information and not just being sent to yet another vague location. Nope. This man tells Knuckles that “You may receive guidance from the Land of Dark… IF you can even locate this mysterious realm.” Yeah, no, that’s just great. He can receive GUIDANCE from a place he’s never heard of before and is apparently super hard to locate. Gee, thanks for your help. “If you see sire Acorn again, tell him Merlin Prower wishes him well.” He says as Knuckles leaves. Knuckles has no reaction to this dude giving him his full name. I can only assume that Knuckles either doesn’t care that he might have a connection to Tails or just doesn’t know Tails’ last name. Either one would be easy to believe. Sonic Live is a terrible lab experiment gone wrong. Rip out the pages of the two decent stories at the back of it and keep them safe while you burn the rest of it. You’ll be ridding the world of a great evil.
  11. I'll be honest. I love that commercial. The idea that Ty could scare Sonic so badly that him going boo would stop his heart and kill him amuses me. It's great seeing how much pleasure he takes in knowing he went to the hospital after putting them all in body casts just to scare them into the grave like all good, well-meaning heroes would. Course, this was kind of the opposite of what actually happened so it remains a cute fantasy. I remember a friend brought this over and played a little bit of it. I remember not being impressed or interested by it. I think I may even remember thinking that I'd rather play a Sonic game instead. I actually didn't even know Ty had a sequel, let alone a third game. I guess it doesn't surprise me that he'd have enough clout that a serviceable amount of people would be happy to see his return.
  12. If they did bring her back, I can only see it being done tastefully through flashback. I don't think it's necessary to push her back into the forefront of an actual modern day story.
  13. The thing that's tripping me up about this is what the game is defining as "trust" and how it's shown in the narrative. I didn't get the sense that Sonic was un-trusting of Tails or even that it was really even Sonic's call in the first place. Eggman comes up to them and explains that he needs to shut down his device. Sonic is resistant to Eggman but eventually allows him to come along. So is Tails. There's NO visible issues Tails has with Sonic eventually caving and allowing Eggman to come along in this scene. Tails and Sonic even share a laugh at Eggman's expense when Sonic tells Tails he made a "Good one" when Tails pointed out that Eggman wasn't asking them for their help all that nicely. The scene before that one, Sonic was heaping all the blame for the situation on Eggman, ending it with a, admittedly amusing, scene where he asks "Whoever thinks Eggman is a bone-head, raise their hand" joke. Eggman says he doesn't like the idea of teaming up with them any more than they do. Sonic says he's gonna have to take a cold shower when they're done. They all walk away to go do this. Again, Tails says nothing. It looks like the both of them had the same amount of say in this scene. The next scene after that starts with Tails starting a fight with Eggman and demanding an explanation for why he's here. That's when Sonic says they need him to shut off the machine, which, I still maintain is a rational line of thought. That's when Tails accuses Sonic of trusting Eggman more than him. Sonic is understandably confused by that accusation and is about to deny it but Tails cuts him off to just reaffirm what he thinks. It's really ham-fisted. Up to that point, I assumed they were both okay with the logic being that Eggman can come along because it's his machine and he would know how to best shut it down. So, now, all of a sudden, Tails is the only one who's not following that line of thought for the sake of this conflict that's literally springing up out of nowhere. It doesn't at all look or feel like Sonic, specifically, was trusting Eggman more than Tails. I suppose when you lay out the logic of "Sonic thinks they need Eggman to shutdown the machine therefore he doesn't trust Tails can do it" then I can see the angle of Tails being right about Sonic trusting Eggman more than him. It's... a little too flimsy for me but technically you're correct. If that's the line of thought you want to go with, I guess I can't say you're entirely wrong. The execution is so weak and poor that it just doesn't come off that way. I still maintain that's not what Sonic did. It makes no sense to me when the both of them let him come along and then in the next scene Tails is suddenly mad that he came along. Trust is a word that when people hear it, they largely think about it in an emotional sense and not just the pure, hard logic way. That's why it immediately sounds so ridiculous to hear Tails accusing Sonic of trusting Eggman more than him. If they wanted to sell me more on the "trust" issue I feel like the initial scene where Eggman joins them needs to, right out of the gate, have Tails bring up that he can do it and have Sonic more resistant to the idea of letting Tails handle it. Then throw in some early signs of Tails being disgruntled by that. At present it just looks like they were both persuaded by Eggman's reasoning but Tails forgot that they were in the next scene. To me that still comes off as the narrative having Tails say "Yeah, you were wrong and I forgive you." Also, I suppose one could take the position of the Crab-Meat scene shaking him out of his attitude but I didn't. I wasn't really given a reason to believe that's what happened. I feel like they needed Tails to be more openly apologetic or something to sell that, IF that actually was the angle they were going for. He ended up getting (this time justifiably) angry again when the Zeti captured him and then went on to prove how uber-perfect he was, which to me, just went towards completely putting Tails as in the right. I don't see where his character arc is supposed to begin and end. It's initial starting point is built on something that's, at best, extremely flimsy and comes out of nowhere, and the way it plays out, it just feels like they were just reaffirming Tails' attitude as the correct attitude to have. He bragged about all that stuff in the beginning and then proved that he was right to have that attitude. The crabmeat scene just feels like another thing that gets brought up and lost within the narrative. If it was supposed to set-up that maybe Tails was acting out and he was wrong for that, they don't follow through with it in a strong and convincing way. That's fine. I wasn't contradicting anything about the narrative there. I was just outlining what happens so I could lead in to what my actual issue was. And I still maintain he didn't. Tails was being ridiculous. I can see the point of view working if the game sold me on Sonic actually trusting Eggman more than Tails but it didn't. The way its written, it feels way too brittle and sloppy. It comes out of nowhere. Tails was FINE in the last scene. Now I'm supposed to instantly understand why he's suddenly upset? Why is Sonic the one getting the blame for this trust issue when he was just as against teaming up as Tails was? Tails was there. He SAW Sonic badmouthing Eggman, calling him names, and claiming they could do it by themselves. He said nothing when they both allowed Eggman to come along. Eggman asserts that they need to team up or it'll be the end of the world. Sonic's response is. "Yeah, well, teaming up with you feels like the end of the world Eggman. I'm gonna want to take a cold shower after we're done." And then the three of them just walk off together. There was nothing there to clue me into the fact that the next scene would reasonably be Tails starting a fight with Eggman for no reason and then getting mad at Sonic for this supposed display of trust. I don't have a reason to understand why Tails suddenly feels as strongly as he does. I'm in full support of the ideas being presented but this game just didn't do a good job communicating any of this. This thought came to my mind more than once as well but the problem is that the narrative doesn't really address this as though they're the same issue. The thing Sonic apologizes to Tails for is for "doubting him" which isn't something that I felt was exemplified by him kicking the conch away and doing the attack on the capsule. He was brash and acted too fast. Sonic says "I was too slow" and then it just drops the angle of him acting too fast. If they wanted that to be the lesson he learned, fine, but what exactly does that have to do with any specific issue of trust? That's clearly more of a Sonic thing rather then anything to do with Tails. If it were Amy or Blaze next to him, I'd imagine he'd have done the same thing. He needed to learn a lesson about how it was sometimes okay to slow down. But Sonic says "I was too slow" and then apologizes to Tails about something, that to me, felt like a completely different issue. An issue that I was, and still am, not sold on. How am I supposed to get "Speed isn't always the answer" out of a scene where Sonic says "I was too slow"? I know that's the the angle I would have taken it but I don't know that's the angle the game is taking it. Especially since it's never brought up again. You completely misunderstood the argument I was actually making and the reason I brought all this stuff up then. He's acting like an asshole and then he's proven justified by the narrative. He IS a bastard who needs to be taken down a peg in this game. My argument isn't that Tails shouldn't show his development. I was using all that as proof that your claim that the narrative portrays Sonic and Tails as both being slightly in the wrong is false. You may have forgotten this because you were reading through a long post and responding to it in chunks but the original part of your post I was responding to said this: "Lost World is a game where everybody is at least a little bit wrong. That Tails was right about being able to handle the machine doesn't mean the game supports him acting the way he did." I don't see it with Tails. The narrative is in clear, full support of everything Tails does and says. Everything he does is right and he never apologizes to Sonic for the way he acted. I listed all the things that he does to prove that the narrative is in support of him and it believes him to be in the right. NOT because I hate his development and the character growth from Sonic Adventure. I'm definitely a fan of Tails. You can be damn sure of that. This is all according to you though. Again, like I explained above, I'm not given any reason to believe that this is what actually happened. I didn't see any build-up of confidence. It just looked to me that Tails was trying to prove how awesome he was, messed up, then got a chance to prove it again and succeeded. The crabmeat scene I love in a vacuum but in the complete story it feels like it was pointless. I can't hold it against you for seeing it that way. Interpret it how you want but the game, as far as I'm concerned didn't do what you say here. And that's fine. I'm not even one of Lost World's harshest critics. I always maintain that the individual cutscenes are good. I just hate how they come together to make a whole.
  14. I forgot about Tikal. You know, she's actually pretty popular. I can see why too. She occupies that space of a character that carries an interesting connection to the history and backstory of one of the most popular characters in the series that's unfortunately still largely kept hush-hush aside from the most basic and important details outlined in her debut game. There's something neat going on there that hasn't been fully capitalized on and I can see why that would be so alluring.
  15. Overall? I would say that it's been largely fine as far as reception goes. People have complaints about Amy (always) but that hasn't stopped her from being the most popular female character in the franchise. Rouge is generally well-liked even if there's a sub-group of people who find the "come hither" angle a bit daunting. To each their own on that one. Blaze, I never hear a bad word about. Cream is pretty much adored on one end and considered largely irrelevant and easily ignored on the other. Not much in terms of hate. Wave... hmm. I.. think she's hated. Most don't seem to really love her but, then again, her personality is purposefully more on the abrasive side so that might be partly intentional. For the ones that matter, I think we're largely okay. As for the less important females we have: Sticks, who feels like she's gotten a bit of a mixed reception. I'm not too sure. I see a lot of love for her at times but I also recall a lot of people saying they found her annoying. Then again, most of that was during the lead up to Sonic Boom the TV show and what they could make of her during previews. Mostly, when Sticks is mentioned in passing, I don't see TOO strong a resistance against her but not a ton chomping at the bit to see her return either. Marine is largely hated but she also hasn't had a single appearance worthy of note since 2007's Sonic Rush Adventure; a game that "coincidentally" also happens to be the game she debuted in. Fancy that. A few side appearances in the Archie comics where someone as niche as Breezy and Honey can be given a beefy role is faint consideration. There's also the costumes of her in the Olympics, her one sticker in Brawl, and her background appearance in one of the Sonic Channel comics. What a character. Vanilla is Cream's mom. She's interesting because she's a mom. The series has a severe lack of those. In fact, she's literally the only one. I've never heard a bad word said about her and to be honest I'm not sure there even IS a reason to hate her. Elise is garbo. Almost everyone hates her and, in my opinion, for good reason. Never do this again, SEGA. Or Sonic Team. Whoever's fault it is. Shade is a character so out of the way and so forgotten that I literally couldn't remember her name for the first two minutes after remembering to talk about her. She's unnecessary and makes Knuckles' unique "Last of the Echidnas" thing a no-go. Can't say I found her all that interesting either. There's the occasional ask for her return, once in a blue moon, but I feel like the majority largely don't care. Zeena is pretty bad. She has some good reactions to the characters she's supposed to bounce off of but her general personality isn't enough to be interesting on its own. She's just the girl of the Deadly Six and that's it. Granted, her traits aren't supposed to be endearing. She's a villain after all. However, that's not an excuse for being so basic. No one seems to like her. Merlina is a character who often gets praised for being a well-done twist villain with an extremely unique motivation to boot. I don't think she's hated at all. Sharha is also a character who doesn't seem to be hated. Her vague past with Erazor and the way she interacts with Sonic makes her a little charming and slightly interesting. Although, more could have been done to push it a bit further. The Female Avatar character in Forces is Sonic's buddy. She's like the 4th little buddy Sonic's got, right after Cream, Charmy, and the Male Avatar but right before KO. She's good because she's little buddy material. We all want to be little buddy material. Fuck Julie Su. I'm done.
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