Ratcicle King

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No, you'll continue listening to his theme song in the brief moments that'll remain to you.

is that what it takes to be infinite?

Well, after all these times, you're pretty much gonna be back for more.

@Kuzu the Boloedge I'm mostly talking about how almost every Forces thread slowly devolved into heated arguments over how Sonic should be, most of the time using Mania as an example. 

People are spending more time complaining about Sonic Forces for not being like Mania, than discussing and having fun talking about Mania. It's just kinda funny when you think about it :U

@Kuzu the Boloedge Because this site is split between Classic and Modern fans, and a lot of people are vehement in their dislike of the latter. Mania is out, everything that could be said about it has already been said. Additionally, it's nowhere near as controversial as Forces is.

So because Forces is so controversial, and this site is pretty damn split on classic and modern fans, the only result are debates about it.

At the moment, I'm not

I'm the happiest Sonic fan alive with no nostalgia for the classics whatsoever, and I couldn't care less if Forces is a bad game or not anymore. My hopes don't depend on it any longer.

Every chance I get I talk about how great the game is to people I know, and gushing about games is waaaay more fun than trashing them imo.

Some people just prefer to live on negative discussion, though. Online, at least.

And I just realized I @ myself lol.

@Ratcicle King

Mania is what I want from a 2D Sonic game but I'm somebody who prefers 3D and sadly Forces isn't doing it for me. 

@Kuzu the Boloedge I don't think ''everything that could be said about it has been said'', people to this day talk about old games because of how great they are, Mania, from the looks of it, is comparable to those, so it should be something to hold conversations for a good while.

I'm not telling you to stop talking about Forces and just talk about Mania, just some food for thought here.

But I guess people are more attracted to controversies when it comes to discussing games, it's probably why the forum had to make a ''no 06 topics'' rule.

And no, this isn't an attack to anyone, I'm just randomly wondering about this stuff. :U

Thank you @Ratcicle King!

I don't see them hating the game as a problem, it's the message that they somewhat hate on other members who like it that is the problem.

I have a love for both Sonics though I kind of favor classic a little more but I want modern to do well I'm still buy forces and I hope that the next thing we get can sway some opinions

@Diamond Dragon X I haven't seen any hate on specific members for a while tho'. Most of the arguments I've seen can be boiled down to people hyped at Forces upset about the sheer amount of negativity they have to surf through to just talk about the game. Neither side is wrong, it does suck that the game warranted such negativity, but people also have the right to discuss why they dislike it, the problem lies when both sides reach their extremes. :U

It's kinda why I'm trying to avoid discussing both Mania and Forces, I'm not a classic fan so I don't want to ruin it for people hyped for it, and while I'm a Modern fan, I understand some of the complains and don't want to get involved with all the arguments said game's been generating.

In other words, SSMB is a terrible, terrible place.

I don't mean hate at a specific member.

I mean stuff like "I hope this ahows them their ideas were wrong" and putting laughing gifs as a response to saying you're excited for Forces.

@Kuzu the Boloedge you're here by choice

I just want a great 3D sonic game, something like adventure but better. Sadly, I fear I may not see that for a while. 

@Kuzu the Boloedge Wouldn't say terrible, it's just in synch with how the internet's been like these past 5 years, everyone's gotten a lot more cynical and less forgiving. And it doesn't help this is the Sonic fanbase, where everyone has their own basic view of what Sonic should be, with a bigger divide on those open minded enough for whatever new stuff Sonic team comes up, against those who want a specific past style of both gameplay and storytelling to come back for good. This place's mostly the byproduct of every small change in the franchise fracturing the fanbase even further.

Still better than Retro tho'.

@Ratcicle King so what you're saying is that we caused Sonic Forces to happen?

You know, SSMB can be a great place to stay even if you aren't interested in Mania or Forces.

For example, I don't enter everyday to discuss about Sonic. I enter to discuss about Dragon Ball and other stuff, while still being a Sonic fan.

@Dejimon11 The real Sonic Forces was the arguments we had along the way.

In all the 2 years I spent here, I sure haven't seen so many online and angry about something as much as the Avatar reveal.

I will remember that day for a long time.

Azoo fucking died that day. It was a massacre.

@Ratcicle King 

@Diamond Dragon X boy you sure are glad you don't have a twitter because if you had seen the salt that was there from Federation Force's reveal and Color Splash announcement oh boy

Wow, you remembered I don't use Twitter? That's some good memory, man.

I've seen the hate on Youtube.

But the Avatar reactions were okay, ON YOUTUBE.

On SSMB, that's another story...

I honestly think Azoo was way too harsh on the game imo.

I respect his departing but still....

If the Avatars are as good as in Xenoverse, I'm definetly not comaining.

i still bash forces because forces is still a bad game in a series i (somehow) still care about

and while forces can't really do anything to affect mania*, it's still affecting the series as a whole. forces' success or failure could be a big part in determining the direction of the series from here on out; if it fails, sonic team might decide that the current direction is a dead end and they need to try something different, if it succeeds they may decide that this is fine and see no need to support more games like mania.

*

e: also i can't focus my attention on mania because i still can't play it for 10 more days aaaaaaaaaaaa

THE EDGY CHINCHILLA

WHAT? HOW MANY?

Pretty much, but ya gotta root for the underdog. 

Don't.

They just removed the fur and the tail

And didn't grow his hair.

All I want is a name.

(Watch them call it SSJ4)

Forces is going to have a hard time this year.