Dejimon11

Ugh, I'd forgotten about Red Ash. The thought of having a Mega Man Legends spiritual successor snatched away by general incompetence and mishandling makes me sad.

That Red Ash animation was the only good thing to come out of this whole debacle to be honest.

Considering who Inafune had hired to develop Red Ash and their track record of games yeah I didn't think it was gonna be good even if the kickstarter was a success. 

Call me crazy I actually wouldn't mind a sequel to MN9 since Mighty Gunvolt Burst proves that the problem wasn't the world and characters it was just Inafune's bad management. Plus now that concept is owned by Level-5 and now that they can have that Level-5 money I think it could work out well. 

Red Ash are my favorite Pokemon protagonists

still waiting on the 3DS and Vita versions

And to think even Mega Man Fully Charged would be getting "competition" out of the whole ordeal.

I think what really did it for me was trying to coast on the fans good will for Mega Man Legends specifically and still held resentment for Capcom at the time to launch another project while the first project for fans of Classic Mega Man was publicly going down in flames.

For me it was when they announced that second Kickstarter/crowdfunding for voice acting. Then they tried make a 3rd one for DLC despite the fact that the game itself isn’t out yet. 

Y'know, for those who still haven't gotten their 3DS or Vita copies, this technically counts as a scam.

the difference is it was actually good tho

it isn't but is a fine series as it is. Gameplay wise is nothing super remarkable but it has charm up the wazoo.

Tbh I've always felt that the series would work better as a TV show/ anime than a game series, like I love the aesthetic, music, plot, and the characters, but the gameplay's always felt like the weakest aspect that I always kinda trudge through to experience more of said aesthetic, music, plot and characters.

@Fernohonestly i can vibe with this idea, shantae gameplay is kinda basic, so take it off the weakest aspect.

I'm not seeing what the issue here is. Most indie games aren't as popular as the ones you mentioned.

I believe it's market share is as decent of a size as any series (indie or not) can hope for tbh. Sure its not something like Undertale (or any other one off indie juggernaut that pops up every two years or so) though that's no reason to really discredit it. It does a lot of things right, consistently shows up, and still has a solid fan showing. Series don't need to do crazy numbers to be relevant.

That being said I am 100% down on a Shantae anime

It's a charming little Metroidvania series, with funny writing, good music, and it's unabashed in how anime it gets at times.

I look at that thing up close and the first thought to pop in my head was "I could swallow that"

You know what, I thought they were going to do something stupid like announce a partnership with Sony or some shit so I’ll take this.

Beats the E3 where the main thing they brought was a toaster.

is this a late april fools joke

Sega's Little Big Adventure!

The big announcement is tomorrow. This is likely something else.

Unless they chose to unveil this a day early, I'm not sure.

Stay safe, Deji.

Ditto

Thank you for your concerns 

Thanks alot Deji!

i don't think there's anything to it beyond remakes being a relatively common thing at this point and SA being a game that's generally liked and old/janky enough to "need" a remake. i wouldn't be surprised if they do jump on the bandwagon and announce a remake, but i don't see any real reason to expect it.

This series has a real nag for going after current trends. Remakes are happening all over so, tbh, I don't know why people are going out of their way to say it won't happen.

Personally though, I just find the idea to be a much more telling test than seeing them fumble with something new currently. Not only do we get a direct comparison to really dig in just as how far gone they currently are, but it'll also really show where their heads are at in multitude of categories as SA1 did a lot of shit (story events, game mechanics, level scale, ect.). If they can't make a competent remake of it... there's no hiding imo.

No "it only actually had a year in development" or "they were trying something new" excuses.

also, i just like adventure, sue me

There has been lots of hints for the last couple years that Sonic Team MIGHT be interesting in doing a Sonic Adventure remake. Saying folk are seeing something that isn't there is silly.

I like adventure as well it's in my top Sonic game and I would love nothing more than for it to be remade. I just feel like we're just grasping at straws and all the "adventure teases" aren't really teases at all. 

It doesn't personally matter to me if they do it or not, i have nothing against it for sure. But i seem enough hints or even "evidence" to say there be a good chance for it. I do mean more then a few signs also.

You can tell interesting stories in the games. Hell, they have before with Galaxy.

Thing is, they literally just don't want to most of the time.

You can, Shigeru just won't let you. Even what little we got in Mario Galaxy had to be practically hidden from him until almost the verge of going gold. I get that gameplay always comes first and all, but we've been doing the same song and dance for 37 years now and it's gotten extremely silly.

I don't think anyone is actually under the impression you literally can't do more with the stories, especially in adaptations, but I understand the concern that Miyamoto and other Nintendo higher ups will rein it in.

I don't expect that to happen with the movie though, if only because of necessity and expectations (which I assume is why the RPGs were more detailed...uh, at first).

@Blacklightning the funny thing is with Odyssey it was literally the first time Miyamoto backed off and literally let them do whatever the hell that they wanted and look how that turned out 

As a long time Mario fan on the internet, I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone say that on an internet forum. I think people are often too quick to latch on to Shigeru Miyamoto's view of story in video games, ironically something he helped popularize. I'm cautiously optimistic for that upcoming animated Mario movie.

Super Mario Adventures was of course great, but I got so much enjoyment from the cartoons as a kid. So many hero characters growing up were always tall, buff dudes that felt larger then life, but Mario was always special to me because he was just a regular guy: A poor plumber from Brookyln fighting for good because no one else will. I always found that inspiring, as corny and badly animated as the Mario cartoons were - they are what made me a fan of Mario in the first place. I didn't get a Super Nintendo until after the cartoons disappeared from television.

Brooklyn Bound was always one of my favorite episodes, it dealt with how Mario & Luigi felt about being lost in another world and having to fight war after war with no way to get home...and what they would do if they had that chance to go home again. I wish the series would have been more like that episode, focusing more on the characters' thoughts and feelings then on parody after parody. I'm such a dork for the Mario cartoons that I even have one of those bootleg plushes that resemble Bowser's appearance in the cartoons.

Sorry for gushing about the cartoons, they've always been a childhood favorite of mine.

I'd say platformers can and have told interesting stories.

Galaxy as people have mentioned.

Sunshine's story was simple, but still charming and more complex than just "jump on goombas, beat bowser, wahoo" by giving Bowser Jr. his own misguided motivations in the game.

I'd argue Odyssey had a decent story too. It's goofy, sure, but it's full of character and even has direct continuity nods to Donkey Kong of all things, with Mario going back to the town of his very first game.

The thing about these examples is, they just have less space to tell a story than RPGs do. RPGs by their very nature are loaded with text, which gives the designers more time to flesh out the characters and world. Mario stories can be engaging and fun outside of RPGs, but there's a reason the RPGs (at least, the older ones) stand head and shoulders above the rest of the series when it comes to storytelling; the conventions of the genre simply allow more room for it.

@Plumbers_Helper

I couldn't agree more.

I've come to terms with Nintendo's stance on the Mario Bros.' birth. But I grew up with the Brooklyn backstory and in my opinion it is 100% more interesting than Yoshi's Island; It makes Mario and Luigi just a pair of regular joes who stumble into heroism, as opposed to being a couple of magically destined babies who were prophesied from birth to be heroes. I feel like it also gave them a slight edge, a bit of a culture, a sort of tangible way that they were different from the other denizens of the Mushroom Kingdom. As people who didn't grow up in a whimsical land of magic, they'd have a different perspective on the world than the other characters, and I always found that interesting.

I really would like to think that, shortly after their early childhood in the Mushroom Kingdom, the brothers moved to the Metro Kingdom - where they opened a plumbing shop (Mario Bros. Plumbing was in the artbook for Odyssey, so it was at least on Nintendo's minds!), Mario briefly dated Pauline, the events of the original Donkey Kong, Wrecking Crew, and Mario Bros. happened, etc. - before they heard about Bowser attacking their childhood home and boogied back to the Mushroom Kingdom to lend a hand. At least this way, Mario's and Luigi's Brooklyn upbringing can have a kind of broad-strokes basis in the game universe.

Even putting aside how ridiculous "SEGA HIRE THIS MAN" is, I would prefer it if fans just kept making fan games without being under the watchful, controlling eye of Sega.

Anyway I'm going with 2 and 8.

2 and 8

i'm not entirely sure i want any of these

What makes you think it won't be?

Considering I really don’t like a lot of Wayforward games. And Pirates Curse the only one I did enjoy.

Ah, I get you.

Did you like any of the Mighty Switch Force titles? Or the Ducktales remaster?

I'm hearing this game is basically a sequel to Pirate's Curse.

@KHCast NOPE

From what I played on Apple Arcade months ago, it's just more of the same Shantae. That is to say, really bland gameplay, good music/visuals, girls in skimpy clothing and plenty of back-tracking.

I'm pretty excited to play it. Shantae is one of my favorite "good but not great" series (if that makes any sense) and I think despite how HGH turned out, Wayforward is really good at listening to feedback and striving to make their next game better than the last.

No I understand where you are coming from. There's just something about there games that just lack any real substance for me. 

I kinda want to but I got so freaking much on my plate already

Yep, got it preordered, so im just waiting for it to unlock on my switch.

Never heard of it.

Make way for Mr. Google Eyes, hero of Stadia!

Nah... #BringBackGex

I think those days are behind us. Nintendo is happy with their current mascots, Microsoft seemingly doesn't care about that market, and Sony has mascots but hasnt really been using them aside from Ratchet sparsely. Aside from the big 3, most gaming companies seem to be interested in nostalgic games, sports, or hyper realistic experiences.

Believe that's easier said than done. I don't really think it's by chance that we have so few and have, let's be real here, only one actually doing well. It's a huge task creating a character that's both likable to a large audience and can be placed in that many genres. Hell, it isn't even something any of these three series aimed for in the first place. That kind of stuff has to come up naturally.

Add in that it more than likely requires a substantial financial backing to support that many experimental titles (seeing as all three of these had the backing of a full on first party at one point or another... also since the only one currently doing well is still benefiting from one) and idk, seems a bit out there imo. Would probably be simpler to take some other, pre-established, well known character and start making games for them.

That being said though, isn't this already a thing for, like, most of Nintendo's IPs?

I think that Mario, Sonic and Crash were the right mascots in the right time. Those three characters introduced a mix of technology and gameplay styles that were very different and deep for their respective console generations.

Platformers were also a very popular video game genre when they reached their stardom. While we are seeing a resurgence of platformers now, personally, I wouldn't say that they are that popular compared to what they were before.

IMO, a mascot will need to have four things to be on the same level of those guys:

- A uncommon and fun mix of ideas and game design; 

- An appealing character design;

- An interesting world;

- Tendencies from the current years.

@Strickerx5 eh idk I think that was literally Sonic's main goal since it's inception 

@Tracker_TD now you're getting it. 

I know this is a horrible thing to ask but.......... wasn't there another Bubsy game coming?

@Dejimon11What I mean is, I don’t think any company ever went in on a game mascot thinking that they could leverage it in other genres.

Like I doubt anyone at Sega had something like Sonic Chronicles anywhere on their radar back then lol.

"Mario, Sonic and Crash"

Pretty sure you meant Mario. Sonic and Mega Man. Crash was never at their level of appeal. Still decent, but not THAT high.

Crash was the de-facto mascot of the Playstation; he was absolutely on-line with, if not well beyond Mega Man, and I say that as someone who far, far prefers MM to Crash. Hell, nowadays I'd argue he's jumped back to the kind of popularity Sonic used to enjoy, thanks to the wildfire success of N.Sane.

Mega Man honestly isn't as popular as many people make it out to be. With Crash at least you can say he was easily recognizable in the 90s and considered to the playstation mascot. And apparently was more popular than Sonic in Japan. 

There are still mascots that create multimedia franchises, they just aren't really cartoon characters

@Waveshocker Sigma Uhhhh yeah he was....  Critically acclaimed trilogy  that sold extremely well,to the point where the remakes sold over 10 million units.  Popular enough to the point he was considered a major playstations icon, had a kart racer that topped most of Mario's efforts, and plus he was one the few western characters to be massive in Japan.

Saying Mario/Sonic/Mega Man were THE platforming trio in the 90s is like saying Call of Duty/Battlefield/Gal Gun are the THE top FPS games right now

You need more fiber.

not your worst take

2017 was like:

They keep repeating their words over and over the exact same way the keep reusing the old zones over and over again.

I think it annoys everyone. I call it the Doug Walker Effect for obvious reasons. Youtube content is infinitely more enjoyable when you don't try to force anything, yet too many people fall into that trapping.

Although lately I've just been getting annoyed by all the in-video sponsor shoutouts. I guess it's to deal with adblock and I just skip it at least.

To be fair given how Youtube has been treating their content creators them relying on sponsors to help make ends meat is perfectly justifiable

I know, it's just a pet peeve. If I was in their position I'd probably do the same. I'm just glad not as many are sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends anymore.

At least Caddicarus doesn’t try too hard to be funny. His videos are a perfect mix between seriousness and funniness.

Any funniness that’s present is a sight to behold.

This is specifically why I can’t watch or like Antdudes videos. He keeps trying this “awkward/self deprecating humor, be silent for a bit before continuing” thing, and it is just cringe worthy and not funny

I watch AntDude for his opinions and thoughts, but his videos aren't funny and fall into the awkward category way too often. Not the self-deprecating and awkward funny he's going for, just uncomfortable.

My absolute least favourite is the skit that's shown up on virtually every YouTubers channel when they do a collaborative video.

"Oh hi X. What are you doing here?" 

"I was looking for the bathroom and think I took a wrong turn and ended up on your channel. LOL"

Shut the fuck up. Any time they they these skits it comes off terribly. AntDude did one with NitroRad where they had a rivalry going on and it was unwatchable.

I don't mind a bit of personal humour, but most of these guys aren't comics and fail miserably in their attempts to inject humour into their content.

Drinking game- Everytime a youtube review lingers on a single shot, start chugging down your shot and don't stop till it cuts. Chug faster if it zooms in, and/or gains a red/deep fried filter.

You'll be nauseous when your through, even if you chugged on water. Do not attempt.

Ngl this convo sounds like the epitome of boomer talk.

That's all I got, please continue

You can't force comedy, you're either funny or you aren't.

Never forget these guys were the pioneers of cringe inducing crossovers.

And I love the guy, but somecallmejohnny i’d also throw up there 

I also love John but anytime he has his brainscratch friends around I find it an impossible watch.

Well for one, it is a spinoff of the best 3d Sonic fangame, which many see as better than the newer Sonics. Plus it has mods for even more characters, like SRB2, on top of the already larger default roster (counting the bonus character wad that comes with the game), so it can even attract non-Sonic fans regarding crossover potential. Probably as close to a big Mario Kart fangame we can possibly get.

Speaking of, one reviewer took it higher and called SRB2K better than MK8D, because the former is free and the later is associated with Nintendo's "shit" online. (A jab that even I, annoyed with the online situation myself, found uncalled for)

Oh Scott yeah he's kinda cringe not gonna lie

SRB2K has a really cool aesthetic to it as well. Really sets it apart from the crowd, aside from people using custom characters which naturally breaks that aesthetic. Being able to use retro 3D models was pretty cool to see.

I think it's less about quality and more about how SRB2K still gets updated, compared to the lackuster everything SEGA gave us with TSR after launch.

Alright. Time for the One Year Anniversary Rest of Team Chaotix Pack!

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Was going to post some sarcastic clapping gif but hey, one year anniversary of a legitimately great soundtrack at least. That's something to celebrate.

Despite how meh it is, and still not buying it, I actually kinda regret going with CTR: Nitro over it. I was so incredibly turned off by the monetization and live service-yness of that game Activision pushed on it, looking at TSR it was like a look back at what games used to be like. It was simple and small, but at least reasonable in getting all the content and didn’t feel overwhelming and stressful with a storefront with a timer on content that may not come back for weeks, with a required internet connection to access it and the bulk of the currency.

okay rant done. Long story short TSR > CTR:NF at least morally and consumer friendly wise 

Nah the moral of the story is fuck both of them and play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. The less we ignore the existence of that mobile garbage the better

I still kinda prefer ASRT mechanically the most out of any of the modern kart racers, but MK8D is still high up there. The less we say about MK Tour, the better.

I legitimately really love playing TSR so I'm afraid there won't be any fucking of it on my end. I'm mostly just really disappointed it didn't come with a shit ton more of what it had to offer. 

I may actually play a few rounds tonight now that I think about it. And when I do, I'll probably still be like "I wish I could do this with more characters and stages."

Eggmanland, Oil Ocean, Hang Castle... I need to race through them yesterday.

You see I would of enjoyed TSR a lot more if wasn't so blatant that they were on a tight budget and weren't cutting corners to release a game even with a delay. 

The character roster is weak with all the wide a varied sonic characters why only 15? Why not 21 at least hell the first racing game had more characters than this. You could of had the chaotix as one team. You could of paired Blaze and Silver with Marine or ugh Stick or added the Babylon Rouges as racers characters who originated from a racing game. The stage selection was pretty safe and I don't know why they went with the 3 acts per zone like a classic sonic game. It's worse when you realize that 1/3 of the stages are from the last 2 games. 

The Team mechanic was a side mode instead of the main selling point because at it's core it's shallow as hell and comes off more as an after thought. They even removed the extra modes like Capture the chao and battle race.

Oh and the online lobby is so bad. I don't know how Mario Kart 8 a game that came out 6 years ago(on this month) has a battle online experience than this. You can join in and spectate a race. There's tournaments etc. I can't even find anybody online at all because it's poorly implemented and they said "we'll fix it" but they haven't/ God the more I think about this game the more I hate it and I realize that literally the only good thing to come out was the soundtrack and the animated shorts. Oh and Zavok is actually the best character in the game for some bizarre reason 

I thought it was ok. Nothing too offensive but not the best thing ever. I did had fun but I wish the roster had more going for it.

...Like why Zavok? I also didn't like some of the challenges like the fucking Drift and Ring challenge. Seriously fuck that.

Overall I thought it was ok but could had been better. Its nice to see a decent Sonic game for once and have it not fuck up.

Yeah, I really liked it. Again, I just wish there were more OF it. 15 characters is not acceptable. Most games today at least have a base roster in the 20s and Sonic was lauded for being a franchise with "too many characters". Nowadays they don't use them outside of mobile games though, whether it be something low budget or not. 

Same with the stages. There were some neat ones to be sure. I liked Boo's House and seeing King Boom Boo again. I really liked the idea of Haunted Castle, taking Spagonia and using the haunted elements of the clock tower to make a spooky stage out of it. But despite that a ton were repurposed from other All-Stars Racing games. 

I don't have any complaints regarding the characters they chose. I just want more of them. I never gonna be like "Why Zavok?" Why not Zavok? Why not everyone? I know the answer to that is money but they were just three characters short of the full main cast. It still feels off. 

The team mechanic was really fun though. To the point where if I turned it off, I'd miss it greatly. That game was just not built for being without it. It definitely wasn't an afterthought considering how intensely different it is with it off.

Then of course there's the amazing soundtrack. Goddamn, it's so good. 

I never play games online so I don't know or care about how good or bad the lobby was. If it was bad, my condolences I guess but I'm a single player dude all the way unless I have a friend over and when we played it we had a ton of fun at least. That's all that matters to me.

I really liked it. It was a good game. I just wish it had taken the chance to capitalize more on what made it good so it could have been better. 

It really is amazing how polar opposite people are on this game lol. Ones criticism is ones highlight 

You're a kingdom hearts fan you should used to this

I’m offended at the accuracy of that statement. 

....

there is a point i just

give up

Tbf

1. They rated it lower than 06. A few valid points or not, that combined with their gameplay showcasing their inept stance towards the game says all it really needs to.

2. The guy simply shouldn't be as prominent in this series as he actually is. When he went after a respected member of the original staff, among many other things, that's not good. I don't care how long ago it was. It's just openly showcasing how little you care about both the brand and Naka himself when you let him then promote shit because "lol lp was funny."

Like I get it, bringing up old shit can be annoying but that doesn't mean there isn't any merit to those complaints.

ok i agree also but it has been 8 years

there is another things to worry about

like complaining about drought of news in a pandemic

DA SONIC CYCLE RISES ONCE MORE

It's just like everybody is treating this shit like it's recent and pretty much feel insecure as fuck about enjoying Sonic. It's gotten to the point where people really can't enjoy shit and just looking for validation and trying to make fun of others about having a different opinion. 

Sega never should have worked with Arin in promoting the games.

There also hasn't been another game released since the last game they worked with him, so regardless of how old that specific mess was people are probably still concerned that they will work with him again.

at this point they better grow a brain. How about working with actual sonic fans like somecallmejohnny for once?

@Dejimon11Replace "Sonic" with anything else and you've just described the average Twitter interaction

@Strickerx5 i haven't seen anybody bring up past events like it happened recently 

The MLP fandom on twitter still bring up the whole Derpy controversy from like 2014, every community does this. Or people in the Arkham fandom still boiling about how the current gen ports didn’t include Origins.

Again, I get it can be annoying but this really isn’t anything new (ironically) or specific to Sonic. Especially when nothing is really going on across the board.

So, essentially it's the counter to critics constantly bringing up Sonic 06.

never forget their video review featured the player blatantly jumping into a pit lol

Oh yeah, that's almost as bad as the Gamespot review of Sonic Lost World where they faked the game wiggling out with the controls by deliberately dying. XD

i mean, that review was laughably poor.

a lot of his complaints (like the jump button being unresponsive, which i can tell you is simply not true) are based off his own lack of skill, because the person they got either seldom plays sonic games or seldom plays platformers.

Do tell.

I could kinda tell from the trailers that it was gonna be, but sucks that was the case.

The 4 chan leak is real 

Classic case of thinking sequels before you even finish just one film. How many mothers do you know that are more excited in having a second and third child when they're still pregnant with their first????

The sad part is that I still expect them to get away with moving forward with this HBCU, unlike how we stopped Mummy from doing so. In the end, the kids will still est this up just as they intended. I don't know how movie profits work when they run on having copied bought and rented digitally, but when everyone's copped up indoors, watching it's only a few clicks away.

Is it on redbox yet?

What the hells a redbox? Also it's $19.99 there

Is this a serious question or a joke?

You can rent it at a redbox kiosk machine thing for a buck if it’s available at them now. You can find a lot of these by 7/11’s or grocery stores in my experience 

A joke. Like I said it's still too much for my blood 

@KHCast

Wouldn't matter anyway, it's exclusively digital.

Here's 20 imaginary dollars.

I don't want you to pay for Scoob with MY money, either.

I'd give you one of my movie tickets that lets you see a movie for free (Not like I ever use them), but all the theaters are closed.

wow

Wow. That sounds kinda jerkish.

I don't normally say yikes, but...yikes.

Why is every Nintendo hype community regardless of the game like this? Like I know hype in general regarding any game can be bad, but lately with Nintendo titles...ever since BotW it’s really escalated.

Trust me when I say this has nothing to do with the usual Nintendo fanboy hype 

maybe things are the way they are by choice

Sonic Forces was also a choice.

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maybe things are the way they are by choice

As was never making another game like Sonic Adventure. Strange that you never let that go after the past ten years, but you've been throwing shit at people complaining about the Paper Mario games after the new one was announced all morning.

all i'm saying is that i don't see a reason to assume they were forced to make it like this, that it's not necessarily a lack of freedom

Nintendo's channeling a little modern Disney here: Mario already a successful mega franchise with plenty other sub series that are good, along with the rest of their mega franchises. They're already drowing in their profit and postive rep from so many others, so of course they won't bother with something that won't even give them a scratch.

Now Mario Party's still a long ways to go from Super "Ship game out with just four maps and a co op mode and then completly forget it" Party and it's pretty hard to say where Kart's gonna go from Deluxe Wii U Port 8 and Gacha Fest Tour, so it's only halfway improved.

all i'm saying

Then say it better next time.

Nothing is confirmed but if it's really down to choice it feels like the games are working against their own interests in a lot of ways if they're trying to build memorable worlds and characters. 
I'm not sure why, if you wanted your Bob-omb to stick out in the player's head, you'd make it look like the others.

The more uniform design for all of the characters across all the RPGs after around 2010 was really noticeable in general.

That's not even getting into mechanics and story, which we know for a fact are the way they are due to feedback from Club Nintendo  surveys about Super Paper Mario. 

I know that during the development of Color Splash they outright said that they weren't aware backlash until it was too late. So I figured that they would be aware and take what's into considering what people wanted. i know that there's more issues to the direction this series took than "Miyamoto is bad" like a lot people misinterpret/ 

Why?

No thank you, that means no more games by Koizumi.

He can go back and work and creative zelda games again 

I would love to have good writing in a Zelda game again, but after Breath of the Wild's near universal approval, people like me who don't care for Aounuma's current vision for the series are just gonna have to deal with it, it's here for the long haul.

>sonic team makes next 3d mario platformer

this is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals possibly ever

>next paper mario game made by atlus

>with this soundtrack

Take F Zero with him while your at it