Dejimon11

Another year, another addition to the idea that Bayo 3 is vaporware.

I can't believe Babylon's fall is gonna come out before Bayo 3

Britain's fall will be before Bayo 3 at this rate. 

Happy birthday

Happy birthday, glad it went well!

HAP BIRF

Happy birthday

Happy Birthday Dej! Welcome to the 24-year club!

Merry burfmas!

omg he went to jared

Playing through it right now. About halfway through world 2 right now. When they say cute as heck, they ain't kidding. Solid gameplay too.

Oh?

the media hates sonic

but they're right to do so

Yes daddy make fun of us we deserve it 

-shrugs-

But that’s not even IGN being spiteful. SA1 genuinely does get worse each time it’s ported.

Tbh the text accompanying the scores seems VERY fair to me.  They all pretty much list the same issues, and the only reason the score goes down is because tolerance for these issues has decreased as time has gone on.  Back in the day, jankiness came with the territory of 3D games, the exceptions were celebrated but few and far between.  These days, if you want to play a 3D game where you don't have to put up with jankiness, you have hundreds if not thousands of options compared to a port of Sonic Adventure.

1. Ya don't even have the right version.

2. I don't think that's even possible my guy

It's good for reasons besides the fact that it's pretty

Stricker was a fan of the Wii version all along

LIES and SLANDER Sean! LIES and SLANDER.

im a java phone kinda guy

Honestly I don't like playing Unleashed, but its presentation and production quality is top notch so I can still respect the work that went into it and wish Sonic Team still had that fire.

You might wanna temper those expectations a bit. 

Are you playing the Wii version? 

I grew up with the wii version. It's alright

@Kuzu He literally said when he plugs in his PS3, lol.

Unleashed was alright when I played through it again in 2017 (or was it 2018?), though it's flaws were more apparent than on my first playthrough. Not really sure I'd be willing to do a third play through of it. 

If it ever gets a rerelease it would be my 5th play through of it

If it ever gets a PC release I'd be set for life as far as this series is concerned.

nah

Ok Mr. I think Mania would of been better with a homing attack

It's mediocre at best.

Though, I'll gladly take it over Forces.

@Dejimon11i'll own up to that but still

nah

It's very flawed but I like it.

It's a cute game, bizarre storytelling aside

It actually is. Genuinely

It should be but it's not

I actually don't mind it after playing it a bit....questionable design decisions aside. 

It is but it's like its fighting itself every step of the way in spite of itself

Lost World is trash and the worst 3D Sonic game by far.

Nothing is worse than sonic heroes

Would you ever believe in 2019 that Sonic fans would like Sonic and Pokemon fans would hate Pokemon?

Oh what a world!

If there’s one thing I’ve learned from starting to actively use Twitter, it’s that people will say junk without thinking just to start shit. It’s like everyone’s bored and looking for more controversy.

I start my morning looking for Xenoblade fan art, personally

Aparrently most Pokemon fans hated their franchise for like ten years now 

Ever since X/Y got an 87% on Metacritic I'm not surprised by anything regarding the franchise anymore.

I hope the next 3D Sonic game is actually 3D and not > 50% 2D. Hoping for a good game too might be setting the bar too high!

nah we gotta have another small step in the right direction

..when do we stop steppin' and finally start walkin tho

gotta get Sonic's solo gameplay right first!

wait and hope

I hope the next 3D Sonic game doesn't throw Classic Sonic in for no reason other than nOsTaLgIa

1. literally stop

2. 6/10 at best

3ds version sucks balls past desert ruins 

8/10

Oh, right. Lost World was a thing....

What a forgettable game that was.

Having played it a few months ago...its aight

I really disliked what I've played of Lost World. 

Some good, some bad. Kinda average 

The goggles, ze do nothing!

Ngl, there are a lot of these where I got no idea if they’re capcom or sega

no NiGHTS nor Vyse, no go

I couldn’t come up with a good counter part for them. Maybe Amaterasu for NiGHTS? For Vyse idk

No eternal champions character,

No buy.

Is Bayo broken

We need to do another top 100

>Pokemon Go. Their opinion is already disqualified from that choice alone. Also everybody should know by now that IGN are trash.

We been knew IGN hates Sonic

It’s like they’re baiting

That's IGN for you. Though I do feel like a top 100 is pointless anyway. It's too vague and will differ from each individual.

I rather liked Sonic Heroes but would be ambushed for admitting it. 0_0

You're trash, IGN

no rayman games, no kirby games, no crash games, no sly cooper games

why is every series i like shafted here

also like 90% of mario games are better than SMB1

The first sign to stop reading was Pokemon Go making the list at all.

Utterly meaningless. Video games are so diverse nowadays. How can you rank Pokémon Go, GTA and Mega Man as though they're in any way comparable? It doesn't mean anything. 

It's like ranking The Dictionary, a cook book and Harry Potter because they're all books.

SMB 1 deserves to be there

Sonic sucks

Kingdom Hearts is too confusing

Galaxy is too linear

Karbeh's too easy 

Crash is too unfair

Post-2 Street Fighters are too different

Modern Pokemons have too much water  many Pokemon

Shovel Knight is a retro indie game and doesn't count

Undertale is art

Ms Pacman is a female role model

If you're going to dedicate effort to the impossible, couldn't the target be something like famine or poverty?

Chris is already in the games:

Wait so you're saying Eggman is Chris Thorndyke? 

Don't tell me you didn't pick up on all of the hints in Sonic X that indicated Eggman was the future version of Chris all along, didn't you?

nope

Because both are prominent game characters and the Freedom Fighters aren't. They are more associated with the games than some obscure manga they appeared in before. Meanwhile the freedom fighters appeared in Spinball for one sprite and that's it. I don't think anyone cares about the technicality.

Also I feel like people are still scared of them hogging the spotlight like they appearently did for a good chunk of the Archie run.

Neither are Tangle and Whisper, and they have their own mini-series.

Still doesn’t hold water if you ask me.

...yeah, I blanked on Tangle and Whisper.

...I got no idea then.

I'd be fine with people not wanting the FFs in the games based on that reasoning (the manga with Amy and Charmy is so extremely obscure that you can't even find the whole thing online if you wanted to) if I also didn't have to put up with the same detractors wanting Tangle and Sticks in the games for arbitrary reasons

Either open the door to all non-game characters or bolt it shut indiscriminately.

Aren’t double standards great?

If you wanna be *really* technical, Sally and Rotor have always been game characters because they’re based on Ricky the squirrel and Rocky/Joe Sushi.

@Petrifying Panda Brilliant reboot idea!

Take the small animals
give them clothes and names
Call them Freedom Fighters

BAM, in-universe Sonic Rescue Rangers!

Actually, it's debatable whether they were specifically from the Manga. Given that Hoshino/Ohshima were their creators, they're more akin to game concepts that were shown in the Manga first (a bit like the Archie comics debuting the FFs first even though they were made for SatAM). 

Apparently Amy and Charmy are not canon immigrants...?

Well how about that.

If Amy and Charmy could get in the main series, why didn't Anton, Little John and Sonic's family and alter ego get in too?

It could have been, but a fair amount of opportunities were squandered, and Street Fighter is more recognisable and profitable for Capcom.

Sonic half-popular for the wrong reasons.

Mega Man had his share of stinkers (counting MN9), but it's more the games that were canned and the lack of anything to cover for them that people don't let that series live down. It also seems a more popular opinion that the classic games aged terribly than it is for classic Sonic games (sans 3 and K).

Where as Sonic has back to back failures with only the occasional diamond in the rough that then instantly gets thrown under by the next. You don't see gaming articles always begining with "Mega Man has fallen on rough times", do ya?

It's your choice on who's treated worse, but the public's general opinion is not in Sonic's favor for sure.

I mean, even Sonic's stinkers outsold Mega Man by a long shot, so despite him being popular/famous for his shitty games, Sonic still sells more most of the time.

there's gonna be "whatever happened to Blizzard?" history lesson videos on Youtube in a few years

they're pretty much done

Feel sorry for the VAs tbh. Would've been another great opportunity for them to meet their fans as they each do amazing work.

Too bad Blizzard is so fucking terrible atm.

Activision as a whole has been taking L’s all year. This past week is literally Konami levels of bad 

LIKE HOLY SHIT!

Oh goodness. None of this is a good look.

Oh NO that's bloody worse alright.

Let me guess. Nintendo fans slagging off TLOU2 (which by the way looks awesome).

The hatred for Overwatch is less so the game’s fault and more of a result of the whole controversy between Blizzard and that Hearthstone player.

As for TLOU, idk. I guess people are just angry they killed off Ellie’s girlfriend in Part 2.

@TheOcelot most of them aren't 

Are the comments for TLOU generic or do they talk about something specific?

@TheOcelot

 No it's nothing like when people were review bombing Astral Chain because it was a Nintendo exclusive. 

@Teospooker kinda generic for the most part. 

the only critique about tlos p2 i saw on my twitter feed was someone using a graphic scene from it to complain about sony's censorship policies (the whole "violence is fine but no nudity/sex" bit)

From what I've seen OW fans have been disillusioned with how the game, characters, writing etc. have been handled for a while now. (There was that recent controversy too but that's more of a general Blizzard thing.)

@Dejimon11 Usually i only hear about people being divided by the ending (while i'd argue the game has potential issues literally everywhere else but the ending) so i wondered if someone had actually raised something different from the norm.

There's been a backlash against cinematic action games brewing since The Last of Us's release thats come to a head with God of War coming out against traditional action games like KH3 and DMC5. 

That, alongside the marketing for the game emphasizing the gore and violence over everything else has caused accusations of the game being misery porn. I dont think this will be true going by the first game but the marketing is doing it zero favors so I don't care to waste my time defending it. Sony marketing for GOW and Spiderman misrepresented the game too so I'll just wait and see.

>KH3
>not cinematic action

I would definetly count it as a cinematic action game but it's an anime game by a Japanese studio so it gets counted with all the actual video games for reasons I can't fathom other than this really being about aesthetics over gameplay at the end of the day.

I mean, it’s still better than calling them “walking simulators”

No joke. I legitimately had saw people refer to them from that term, and it’s the most groan-worthy thing.

I think there should legit be a label for the walk it talk it type of game that's been springing up for the past decade but walking simulators is a little mean

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I can't fathom other than this really being about aesthetics over gameplay at the end of the day.

With that i can agree, i've grown tired on Sony this generation dissing or mistreating its japanese division (Knack baybeee anyone?) while giving money and time to western studios only, including ones that definetly don't need money like Quantic Dream.
Aside from Dreams and Concrete Genie (wich are not even out technically anyway), i can't think of a substantial good AAA Sony game that hasn't been copying, homaging or using the style that TLOU started. Maybe Ratchet & Clank, but that was a remake and associated with a mediocre/terrible movie so i'm not sure what to think.


EDIT: also, on a slightly different note, this happened: https://gematsu.com/2019/10/report-sony-interactive-entertainment-europe-hit-with-layoffs-on-october-8

Fantastic.

Spider-Man.

Sony's mostly been releasing light to strong 8s this gen with few exceptions but that's them every gen for me. They've always been kind of the "culture vultures" of games to me where they just kinda take what's popular in popular culture/last generation and put their own spin on it without many new ideas and mechanics. The Last of Us and Uncharted get a lot of knack for aping big budget cinema and third person cover shooters but what are Ratchet and Jack if not b tier cartoon premises?

Hey man! Congrats on getting it! Did you get it on PC so we can go head to head?

UMvC3 is lit...

but I still think TvC is better.

@Nina Cortex Spookhexeon It was on sale on PSN

Aw man. We don't have PS Plus. Would've loved to show you my skills there.