Dejimon11

You got Pokemon 25 to look forward to at least. 

skyward sword hd, take it or leave it

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skyward sword hd, take it or leave it

If I'm honest, this was more than I could have asked for considering how bad things were in the last year. As long as Nintendo doesn't screw up the release like they did for the Mario collection I'm happy. Loved Skyward Sword.

A friend told me that Nintendo seem to celebrate anniversaries by fiscal year lol.  So right now we're still in Mario's 35th anniversary, but come April they'll switch over to Zelda PR mode.

@JezMM The prospect of a limited time release of a Zelda collection seems so Nintendo right now. 

Also Metroid.

monkey's paw how

I'm assuming with how Arcsys usually does their Fighting games nowadays 

/Me, a longtime Arcsys player who still wants a new Blazblue.

Bad lobby 

Lack luster starting roster while all the good stuff is behind DLC

And this is just observation I’ve seen some folks getting disappointed by arc sys over simplifying their games to the point where it doesn’t feel good. 

The good thing about making it a Sonic game is that I think most of the community would prefer the game simple honestly. The only fighting game that gets any traction here is Smash

Well speaking as a "veteran" fighting game player, simplification doesn't actually solve much. What it ultimately comes down to is the player's skill (or lack thereof), and if there's little depth, then its gonna have a hard time keeping people's interest before they move on.

Granblue Fantasy Versus is simple, and while its fun, there's not that much depth to entice older players like myself and a newer player is likely to just move on. 

Fighting games are just kind of hard to get into, because they require some level commitment that not many will (or can) put in.

As for the other points; those are BS lol. The first Blazblue game came out in 2008, and had a starting roster of 12, and the first iteration of Guilty Gear Xrd had 13. Small Rosters are common as fuck, so I don't know why people are making that an issue. 

Skullgirls had EIGHT characters and nobody complains about that :V

Lobby is shit though, can't do anything about that. 

So what if it were made by Dimps? 

(And before anyone says it, Battle was made by Sonic Team personally)

Play Sonic SmackDown. It's great

I really don't think ArcSys games are so easy that they aren't fun. If anything, their games are one of the few fighting games that'd actually match the speed I'd want from a Sonic fighting game and would scratch the itch of...well, hitting buttons and always getting cool, stylish moves out of it.

And yeah, 10 to 12 characters are pretty darn normal for any fighting game that doesn't just recycle huge chunks of their previous game, as Kuzu said. I think it would be pretty sufficient.

@KuzuSkull Girls is also an indie game so it gets a pass. I feel like games like SFV got flack for how lack luster their roster was.

i still find it hilarious that Dimps is a fighting game master and the ONE time they could've had the chance to make a sonic game within the genre they excel at, Sonic Team was like "nah we got this one, keep up the good work on Advance 3 tho"

The reason why SFV got flack is because they went dramatically down from SFIV in Roster size. People want more characters or a good reason why they cut a ton of them (like completely overhauling their moveset/animation/artstyle/having a largely new roster). There's a reason why people are fine with GG Strive.

A new franchise, where people understand they have no ground work, doesn't have that issue at all.

Also, we just complained about a Sonic racer with a "mere" 15 characters, which is still more than Battle's 10 and Fighters' 8 (11 in the 2012 version) so a fighter of that scale would fit like a glove. We'd be lucky to even get DLC on top of that.

Honestly, a simple but flashy Sonic fighter with a few unique character gimmicks similar to DBFZ is something I could go for. But I say that as someone who barely plays fighting games, and despite having a passing interest in them, I don't actively play them enough to get good at them. I just like seeing cool stuff that celebrates things I like lol.

The only thing that would bother me would probably be the story mode, since ArcSys storymodes are boring af most of the time in the presentation department - but then again, it would fit in right with the TSR one lol

Picked it up today, mainly for BF. Though, I do remember enjoying the hell out of it back in 2013 (though never really played it again) so I'm hoping for the same experience here.

I might pick it up later in the year. I loved it on Wii U and while I was happy it was getting a rerelease I didn't feel like I needed it. But I appreciate a lot of the tweaks that it might be worth a second look some time.

Maybe so.

But three years after this film's annoucment, it's now only one year off. In that same span of time, Sonic got his first movie released and is already getting a sequel in that same year. And we still know more about that than this.

Now THAT is damaging.

It took years to hear anything concrete about the first Sonic movie, Supah. It was announced 2014, scheduled for 2018 and it was only that year when we heard Paramount had taken it over from Sony and had some cast rumoured. 

The truth is, Mario and Sonic will get their voices swapped, and that's part of Eggman and Bowser's next evil plan that will be featured in the story mode of the next Olympics game.

@Dejimon11 Hey you still up for the movie?

That fukin cliche thumbnail tho

I mean, tbf they do that with half the games in this franchise at this point.

SEGA did the dirty on Boom multiple times before they even announced it.

@Strickerx5 name 5 games.

They did the dirty on the PC version of Sonic Mania with that DRM nonsense.

What's this regarding?  The Sonic 30th promo images or something else?

They ignore Sonic 3.

@Strickerx5 hey hey Black Knight is getting some love in that mobile game.  
 

@JezMM yeah 

A small price to pay for salvation.

Knuckles Chaotix canonically doesn't exist

Ah okay... yeah in that case I don't see the huge deal.  From what I saw they covered the series' biggest hits and the most recent games since those are still like, viable, "current" products.  The only good Sonic Boom game stopped being a relevant product years ago and if they were representing it for the cartoon's sake, well... the movie doesn't get acknowledged in the 30th material and that IS a "current product" so yeah.

Sonic 4 Ep 2 was kinda okay so maybe with better direction, might be decent?

I know we can meme all day about how crappy Sonic 4 was, and the 3DS titles (well, Gens was alright), but Advance and Rush are genuinely good, and I feel if Dimps could get over some of their own design flaws (IE - the reliance on bottomless pits/boost pads), they have more than enough in them to put out a great 2D game.

Actually, I unironically support Dimps returning. They didn't get the bad rep they had now until Sonic Team turned them into their downgraded port printer, plus Sonic 4. While they were the scapegoat for shoving boost pads and pits in every level, Sonic Team's equally guilty of that now so what does it matter, but I digress.

Dimps were at their best making original Sonic titles, and the need to make "downgens" of the mainline titles has receded. If SEGA didn't already threw Dimps out cause the have a mandate where all 2D Sonics must be Classic only, maybe they could get their second chance. Sure, there'll always be those who look down on their games for not being the Classics/Mania, but that's what be a unique take is for, innit?

plus everyone knows we need another sonic battle/dimps sonic fighter

Sonic Battle 2.

Sonic Rush 3.

I'm game for either one.

@Sega DogTagzDumps didn't make Battle; that was Sonic Team.

@Indigo Rush Originally I remember thinking that S4E2 was significantly improved over E1. But man... It ain't. It's pretty awful. Dumps have made good Sonic games in the past, including the Advance and Rush games, there was something of an evident increase in sloppiness witb each game. When they stopped working on wholly original Sonic games and started making secondary versions and S4, their output became pretty bad. 

I think Dimps could potentially make a decent Sonic game again, but I'd have to see it first. Their most recent offerings were all rubbish and I'm not lamenting the fact that they haven't been part of the series since the the absolutely God awful Lost World 3DS.

Make another sonic rush adventure quality game and I'll forgive dumps for sonic 4.

I don't think it's dimps, but if it is I can't ignore the fact that they've had more misses than hits. i'd just expect junk food I'd play once and forget about which would be alright

Dimps is made out of EX-SNK and Street Fighter Devs (the CEO and founder of Dimps is the creator of Street Fighter AND Fatal Fury, for crying out loud)
Dimps was involved with Soul Calibur 6
Dimps made Street Fighter 4 and 5 

If you're gonna hire them, Sega - let them make a fighting game, for christ's sake
At least give them a shot

(that being said, I love their GBA and DS Sonic platformers, warts and all, so I'd be down for more of those if the quality is up to snuff)

Lol. Phone Autocorrected Dimps to Dumps a few times and I don't think it needs changing back.

Good- Adv 1, Rush, Rush Adventure, Colors DS

Meh- Adv2, Gens 3DS......Adv3

Shite- Sonic 4 duology, SLW 3DS

It's not the worst track record, not really anything worse then the usual Sonic Team output. I think if they had original ideas and time they could make a decent game again 

They're not terrible but when I ask myself which ones I would actually revisit the number isn't high

Even autocorrect doesn't like dimps.

@Thigolf that’s right we do need a proper sonic fighting game.

My most popular post on this site is a white knight defense of Sonic 4 Ep 2 before it even came out don't test me @Blue Blood

lol, kidding, I'll need to pick it up again sometime soon, it's been years 

Yeah, I saw that 100% tweet of yours. Even Crashy News retweeted it, making Crash 4 trend as well.

Its not as funny as watch iphone trend because a bunch of girls decided to wash their phone in the shower but hey GG.

if they're moving on from boost as a whole for Sonic, I'd guess it'd be more Advance than Rush. And even then, Advance was just classic Sonic with an attack button and a kinda-boost.

personally a new 2D Sonic with the modern aesthetic but the classic gameplay would be the ideal lol. extra points if it goes beyond pixel art and has like a drawn/painted aesthetic

the advance games were a gradual process of shedding genesis gameplay elements with each sequel; and once they were finally able to fully rewrite the gameplay proper with rush, they ran with it and haven't looked back, even for the games that were supposed to be classic. so i find it hard to believe that if they did decide to drop boost gameplay for 2D sonic, they'd suddenly revert back to genesis gameplay like nothing happened (let alone do it properly). more likely than not they'd probably just build a different type of 2D sonic.

likewise, if they were to actually revive the advance series with a new 2D game, i imagine they would be more interested taking forward all of the stuff they added to those games (such as the proto-boost mechanic, co-op abilities, and all of the secondary mechanics like the R-tricks and alternate attack abilities) than they would be in keeping any remaining holdovers from the genesis gameplay.

@Milo I think that with the success of Mania, genesis-like gameplay will become a standard for any 2D sonic game from now onward. If that leak is real and they are not interested in continuing the Mania series, I'm pretty sure that the elements of Mania that made people like it will be preserved. So I expect the next 2D Sonic Game to at least try to emulate the genesis gameplay (succesfully or not is another matter), be it modern or classic. This is why I'm so hopeful that the rumored 2D game might be more like Advance than Rush. But nothing is certain yet, only the time will tell.

It was on DC Universe so nobody watched it. 

I thought it was good but I didn't like the ending that much

Just "ok"?

Thank fuck.

I think the fanbase would have exploded if we'd lost Mike as Eggman. This is fantastic news.

Is he like pure non union and cheap? Cause that might explain it. Not a knock on Mr. Pollock of course I like him. History just shows Sega is cheap.

He's the man with the plan!

He is union but I think he does something called "financial core" which basically gives him more flexibility. I know Stephanie Sheh does it too. Basically they pay their dues to the union to keep their protections but they're free to work on whatever they want. EDIT: I appear to be a bit misinformed on how fi-core works if the official SAG-AFTRA website is anything to go by. I remember Stephanie Sheh had explained it in a panel once and it sounded different but it's been years so I'm not clear on the details.

Kinda whatever about this since I don't care for his work personally but he's fine, but now I'm guessing based on his wording and what Colleen responded to, Prime is likely a separate thing altogether so the entire game cast may not be getting replaced.

I don't think he was necessarily trolling. For all we know, he might have been as unsure about whether he was coming back as anyone else was and found out around the same time.

*hint of the next Mario game

Yep. That's what we should expect, assuming the game is scheduled for a 2021 launch. SEGA have historically announced Sonic games in Spring for a release that same year.

Wich one? Doesn't the series break the 4th wall constantly?

I'll just edit it in the status 

We stan Cindy. 

what?!

Are you sure this just isn't in reference to the others leaving? He's sort of been tweeting like that for the last few days iirc. Hell, even hinted that he's on for the new show.

I dont know what is happening anymore. It could be that or it could be a troll move. I'd say wait and see. 

If it's true then that's really an end of an era.

True true everybody has been straight forward but he’s the only one who’s been coy

Either way, Sega needs to put out... something. All these VAs saying bye/ being unsure isn't a good look.

Just announce the new VA list and move on.

Happy Hedgehog Day

Well I take back part of my other post. Apparently he doesn't know.

SEGA is the cause of all of Sonic's problems and the fix for none of them.

I was waiting forever for someone to make that "I Am" joke

disgraced former national security advisor michael flynn 4 sonic

Is there new confirmation or is this just based on what's been said the past couple of weeks?

in the good timeline mania 3 is in development right now

"Did you get rid of Pontac and Graff"?

"Yes"

"What did it cost?" 

"Roger and Sonic Mania 2" 

@Your Vest Friend the later.  

Mania 4 is now in development, Mania 2 and 3 got scrapped.

remember how during initial livestream builds of sunset heights at e3, they cut the gameplay feed right when players were about to complete the level

mainly because shadow was there at the goal ring

even though the in-character dialogue mentioned shadow was traveling over the city at high speed near the end of the level

oh and it was nothing but green hill/sunset heights levels up until mid-september (eight-nine weeks away), when they finally showed a new stage (casino forest).

I like Lego games, I loved the writing in the Lego Dimensions Sonic pack, so heck yeah, I'm down.

*shrugs* Sure, why not. Sonic was one of the things I liked most out of Lego Dimensions, so a full game based around that could be fun.

As long as it’s built like the Sonic pack in Dimensioms and not just a copy/paste of regular LEGO gameplay.

The Sonic DLC from what I saw did make me think of it as somewhat Rise of Lyric but done right, so maybe it could work. I will say the movement should be faster, and maybe trying squeezing in some momentum in where it matters it we should be good. The prospect of having a large roster to throw the non-Sonic characters some bones, incuding normally off limit character like Mighty, Nack and Tangle, or evening running around as a Motobug or Omochao is pretty enticing.

I wouldn't be against it, but I wouldn't want it to happen personally. Lego games are terrible.

Naoto Ohshima's time as producer with Nintendo was an equally pleasant experience

Where's the block button? 

They're pretty neck and neck for me on the plz no scale.

And the Meta May-May Twitter account is their beautiful baby daughter

I'm surprised they weren't called to write some Boom episodes themselves. It would had brought everything full circle.

From what I've seem of Boom, nah. I've at least enjoyed some of the episodes there.

Also, low key, RoL had some pretty ok moments too.

Boom has my favorite Eggman. I'll stand by it until the end.

Don't you love divisive elements

@Milo

They had an entire game all to themselves.

They delivered accordingly-

@Kuzu yeah it’s good to know that not everybody is a sheep or a hive mind

Holy shit I'm getting deja vu

@Milo They did write an episode in season 2, actually ("Return to Beyond the Valley of the Cubots"). It was an epilogue of sorts to Fire and Ice, which had previously been confirmed to canonically take place in the middle of season 2.

Seeing as how I enjoyed the Boom TV show and liked the fact that Rise of Lyric felt like an actual adventure game with an adventure story despite the game itself being jank, I can't say I agree. Rise of Lyric's story still wasn't ideal but if I'm comparing it to the stuff where Sonic talked endlessly at a robot that didn't talk back, three separate times without a hint of clever writing to at least offset the cheesiness than no.

However, my ideal wish is for something like the IDW comics regardless. 

Plus, both Pontaff and Boom are gone. There's no point for me in wondering which I would prefer now. 

Well you see I feel like the boom tv show is incredibly mediocre and amateurish. Writers are filled with hacks and there's absolutely nothing funny about it even by sitcom standards and it doesn't help that people on twitter post the same 5 jokes repeatedly and it's like really?

Rise of Lyric was an interesting premise but ya know how that game went. At least with that game when it tried to be funny it was genuine and I actually felt something. With the show nah I never laughed once. 

Interesting. I can't help but feel that a tad hyperbolic (especially since I don't personally know the writers. Calling them hacks seems a bit harsh without much knowledge concerning their character on my end) but it's not my place to question the validity of someone's genuine opinion on something. I do feel that the show was far funnier than the game though. There are a number of clips that float around Youtube and Twitter that elicit chuckles and sometimes laughs from me. I would still go with a more adventurous game that had lukewarm humor than a full on comedy of course. 

Though, as I said, it doesn't matter to me in the end.  It's done and I've put it behind me. Perhaps I'll revisit the material when I feel curious about that one time back in 2014 when SEGA decided Sonic needed an unnecessary, weird multi-media push with a version of Sonic that nobody asked for but I've no strong feelings one way or the other.

@SonicWind welp, I stand corrected.

that said, i'm still a bit surprised that was the only thing they were involved with for the show. would had expected them to do at least one standalone episode.

@Dr. Detective Mike Maybe hacks isn't the right word to use. They've gone on record saying that the whole point of the show was basically telling as much jokes as you could for 11 minutes and not caring about the episode premise it is a problem, especially if your episodes just abruptly end. At that point just make it a bunch of skits. Also they really love to brag on twitter that made and even going as far as saying that it got cancelled because it was too smart. 

Don't threaten me with a good time.

Wisps out, Elemental Shields for the first time in a 3D game in!

The first steps to bringing the Classic Sonic era into the 2010s involved giving him a homing attack. Of course the Wisp will be prominent in Adventure 3 Episode 1

Wow the new Sonic game looks different!

The Blue Bomber and Blue Blur really are birds of a feather

Yuji Naka understood programming and game development pretty intimately at some point. From what we understand about Imafume he was just an oppurtunist.  Not really comparable. 

Well not 1:1 but the point is that they were both involved in helping a franchise be big and helped create other IPs as well and since they’re departure everybody asked them to come back to make things better until their latest endeavors made people realize that they’re not really a savior as many made them out to be.