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It's one of the best games.

Eh, people will like and dislike different things....

Though yeah, a lot of it here is just people trying to be edgy with a stupid hot take

The "meh post-game" and the whole "Moons are too easy to find and get redundant" complaints, I understand. But those are hardly any reason to bring the whole package down to bad, or even meh

I think it's meh really. Like, the atmosphere draws you in at first, but by the time I got to the Steam Kingdom the initial charm of the more out-there direction had worn off. Doesn't help that I played LCU after and it pulls off what SMO was aiming for better imo.

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Ohoho, you silly feeble-minded little gay. I am SO FAR BEYOND FORTNITE.

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Ohoho, you silly feeble-minded little gay

Wha-

please tell me you've seen the whole fandub, come on man

I'll do it idgaf

Fuel to the fire of...wanting a character back..?

Sign me up!

In the Rally 4 Sally topic probably

Let them do it because people who get Big Mad over Sally are funny

just put the chipmunk in the f2p mobile game like they want

I just don’t get why people get super angry over her?

People dislike a character, right?

Well, other people liking a character they don't like makes them madder.

It's simple cause & effect.

Because it breaks continuity in this non canon mobile game

now excuse me while I go play as red from angry birds in sonic dash

Neat. Now where's the campaigning for a good game.

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I just don’t get why people get super angry over her?

Because this fandom is boring.

Isn't this campaign just for adding her to Sonic Dash and Speed Battle?

Start using all of your praying power. 

It took me awhile to figure out how to Spin Attack while Wall Running...

SSMB needs more MCU influence 

It’s surprising how I’ve seen people actually suggest that even without COVID, it’d still be one of the best selling films of the year 

It wouldn't. It'll do better than most movies like Scoob but in a year where Black Widow and Wonder Woman came out lol no. This movie got extremely lucky in so many ways. 

We take those. Let the series have this W for once. 

The movie was bad it deserves no such W

The series needs a W that's fair and square. Plus we got Mania it was a major W

Being one of the highest grossing thanks to covid definitely is a lucky break for an average-to decent movie, but SEGA gotta take what they can, because success for the Sonic brand doesn't last long.

@azoo It was decent.

its a by the numbers live action cgi cartoon animal buddy movie with a really poor understanding and/or willing disregard of things in the source material. as a family film its mediocre, as a sonic film its horrible. lol

It didn't need to be anything more than what it set out to be. It accomplished that, and that should be given credit. 

Nah

Yah

It's an average by the numbers book. Nothing too offensive or nothing worth celebrating. A major issue is that it seemed like it was embarrassed that it was about it being a video game adaptation because it basically has the same premise as Alvin and the Chipmunks, the Smurfs etc you've seen it a dozen times. 

And that's why it doesn't deserve a W. It's not proud it's Sonic, hell it hardly even resembles Sonic in ANY way, which is something that should be obvious from the get-go if not for literally everyone in the world being fooled by a redesign..

If not for the redesign, its easy to see that it resembles a Sonic film just as much as Super Mario Bros resembles a Mario film. In that it doesn't. lol

Fair enough. But consider this, the main purpose of films like these is to introduce people to Sonic itself and get them invested in the rest of the franchise. Regardless of the quality of the film itself, if it does that, then I can in good faith, not consider it a failure.

There's many different interpretations of Sonic long before the movie came out, and they're all somebody's introduction to the franchise in some way, and I don't feel like they should be put down because of how much they deviate from the source material and the like. 

I've never been comfortable with feeling there's "only one true Sonic" and all of the others are fakes and lesser than  the video games. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I liked that game before it was cool to do so.

Woo, Lost World turns 7! Love that game!

Ohh... Lost World's story turns 7. Hate that plot.

Yes @Failinhearts, we're old enough to see our 2013 baby turn 7.

I feel like a proud father.

currently the most recent modern sonic game that was straight-forwardly completely in the present, with no time travel, reused stages, or dimension hopping shenanigans whatsoever. It even attempted to kickstart a new era by shoving Windy Hill in everything for a hot minute. I can atleast give Lost World that tbh

It's a good game

That book is ancient like its content! Same goes for the movie!

7 years since Sonic Team temporarily shelved the boost formula for a bizarre slow run/fast run mechanic and "parkour" that allowed you to walk up or along a wall without the need for momentum. Sonic Team made a LOT of bizarre design and gameplay choices in Lost World.

On the plus side, it's also been 7 years since arguably some of the most colorful, cool-looking Sonic levels in the 3D era.

@Ferno: Windy Hill wasn't the only thing SEGA was shoving in, it's also been 7 years since these guys became a thing-

(To be clear tho the only zeti they keep promoting are Zavok and Zazz. Zeena only appears in Speed Battle)

So almost 9 years since I got a 3D game that I actually liked... jc

Man I sure hope that you’ve been playing other games to keep you occupied cause if I had to wait 9 years for a series that constantly disappointed me I’d would have left 

I remember being so dumbfounded when the Zeti were first revealed. What weird, non-Sonic-looking characters they were. I like 'em now, but back then, they were just so...jarringly weird.

friendly reminder to play forza horizon ya sony ponys and nitendrones

real talk I really do feel sorry for anyone that actually does rely solely on this series for entertainment... if those people actually exist

Oh hey, it's that game that made me go "I don't like where this is going".

@Strickerx5 they’re called sonictubers

The 3-game partnership with Nintendo was a mistake

@Ferno 

Yet it still means so little, like when you go from Sonic 4 Episode 1 to Episode 2.

No Green Hill or anything, but we still get Green Hill-like opening stage anyway, then they pull an Hill Top and make a "Green Hill but in the Sky" for Sky Road, on top of still reusing enemies (even if several make their 3d debut). The only thing that puts Windy Hill and step above Splash Hill is its gravity mechanics, but it still barely stands out the same way Seaside Hill does. None of the worlds do, even if they look cool. They're the same basic level tropes straight outta NSMBs and the few attempts to give'em their own flair just don't cut it for me.

@Strickerx5

People don't need to play the games to find entertainment soley from this series. No other popular series had the nerve to star a shonen hero in a cartoon animal's body. There's a reason Sonic has lived on for so long while most every one of his copy cats bit the dust. Sure, there's many games that may give you satifaction the Sonic games have long been missing, but the general spirit of the franchise as a whole still draws many people into it. You may think games have long since transcended Sonic at this point, but for many, his uniquness has yet to be transcended.

I get where you're coming from Berry. I understand how this series hold qualities that other things can't match in just the right way. But here I'm more poking at the idea of someone literally only playing/ consuming Sonic media 95%+ of the time. Like, I just think that's a meme as I honestly can't imagine anyone actually being like that regardless of how they act on twitter or something lol.

It's pretty good

It's alright.

It's pretty bad and that's a shame

Can't speak for the gameplay but I will say that some bits of the story were pretty boring? I didn't like Tails' characterization in this. Sonic roasting Zazz and Zeena was nice but that's about it.

I will say that I think some parts of the soundtrack is underrated though. I find myself listening to Sea Bottom Segue more and its a pretty track. Some of my other favorites include Dragon Dance and the Snowball Waltz.

That’s like the last you wanna say in response to this. Good god 

He says more but yikes he never shouldn’t have used those words.

From what I've played, most fighting games do.

Actually, most online games in general really.

So now we know why Sakurai left HAL: they were putting rollback netcode in their games and he couldn't comprehend that

Keep trying berry you’ll one day make me laugh

Come again? It's out already??

Yup

Smells likes sega.

nah if it were like Sega we would forever be getting re-releases of SM64 using the SM64 DS Mario Model, but they would still call it the original SM64 and pretend like the original SM64 Mario model never existed

With Mario too... the 3D line no less. I guess Nintendo really doesn't want the Switch to have any kind of real legacy content.

What's your definition of "real"? 

Anything outside of the few SNES and NES games they have up. Shit doesn't even have Kid Icarus yet last I checked.

Back in 2017, I was half joking when I said that it would take them a full generation to start putting even a couple N64 games onto the service...

edit: Oh hey, just checked the page and they did get around to putting KI up there

nice, nvm, i was wrong, 10/10 best thing ever

We've gotten Wii U ports which is from an outdated console and literally got a remake of a wii game. Obviously the effort that they put into is half assed and needs more work but saying real legacy isn't the right choice of words. 

PS. Kid Icarus is on it. 

Ocarina of Time isn't on there yet. 3+ years out. That's insane to me.

I wasn't going to get it already due to the same devs also gleefuy implementing microtransactions that other Harry Potter game of theirs.

J.K.'s recent book really just made things worse.

She wrote another book? Man, can't imagine that going well. Guess there's not gonna be a Fantastic Beasts 3 at this rate (good).

Nah to REALLY make it the worst possible time we need a Winnie the Pooh game to be released the same date.

Tbh it was probably just a slip in tongue as he was trying to make up a reason for it on the spot. The statement flies directly in the face of a majority of what they've done over the last decade.

On a side note, I think SA3 is sort of their Hail Mary at this point. The title they'll try and sell us on when Sega finally gets tired of all their shit and are like "you have one more chance before we put this series on ice." Honestly, if they ever actually announce such a game... I'd be worried lol.

I always see it as SA3 is a game people have been asking for ever but they don't want to risk it since expectations have been tempered with so it won't live up to the hype. 

mania wasn't exactly charting a course for the future of the series. it's a side game made by a separate team starring that "other" version of sonic.  sonic team coming out and saying "yeah ok we're making sa3" would carry different expectations for what effect it's going to have on sonic as a whole.

What about Forces which came out in the same year? The whole thing was pretty much the return of the boost which a lot of people were asking for, brought back classic sonic because folks liked generations and the reason why the avatar exist in the first place is due to fan demand. 

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when Sega finally gets tired of all their shit and are like "you have one more chance before we put this series on ice."

*remembers how '06 was a legendary bomb and how Unleashed started development being called SA3 at first*

forces was the "return" of the boost after only a single game's absence, and the avatar character was still something new for the series to try regardless of it being something fans wanted.

classic sonic being in is pure cynical pandering (and worse, it's entirely misplaced), though.

All Stars is a classic. 

He’s good, he’s still regularly helping with Motobug stuff, and comes to every stream, he just moved on from the board.

Super Mario for Super Players is always a good idea.

I do think Lost Levels has more interesting stage design, they just didn't know where to draw the line on what was reasonable to expect of the player (enforcing 2+ pixel perfect running jumps in a row right at the end of a course for example, or the one castle where you literally have to get hurt and become small mario to clear it - that one was bad enough that they fixed it in Super Mario Bros. Deluxe).  Also while thankfully it isn't an issue in All-Stars, the idea of locking four extra worlds behind completing the game eight times (though I have at least learned the original release saved that) is bizarre.

Also while it's not a particularly fun world to play, I do find it fascinating how much the course designers lost their minds when designing it.

But yeah, much more engaging stuff going on than Mario 1, which has like 6 levels that are just straight roads with groups of three enemies over and over again.

Wait... you haven't finished that yet?

I’m bad at Zelda games 

A lot of people say that BotW isn't even really a Zelda game. Maybe you're just bad at games?

I 100% Octo Expansion. Including the inner agent 3 boss fight. I know I’m good at games