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because then it'd be a boost game, not an adventure game

Because it would completely defeat the purpose of being an Adventure remake if it's not gonna play anything like Adventure

Thatd be like making a direct sequel to the genesis but you give sonic a homing attack

Oh wait

It’s still a remake but it’s not the one people want. The reason people want a remake of SA1 is because they want that style of gameplay. 

They made Fortnite so fuck'em

Ok but really, I'll put it this way, it really isn't any worse than most other storefronts on a backend perspective.

From the many arguments I've read on it, there are 3 main things people take issue with regarding it. It having less features than Steam, supporting Epic in general, and the fact that it's literally not Steam.

Honestly, the first of which is the only one I really have a direct problem with. The software itself is pretty barebones and, with all the money Epic does pull in, they really should have invested in a better user experience after all this time. That being said, I don't use most of Steam's feature-set either (Discord is miles ahead of any type of communication it has and I don't care about the other crap) so I'm not too opposed to it. Though if you do use that stuff, you'll miss it in EGS.

The second point is a bit more controversial though, imo, sort of just gets into a deeper argument about capitalism in general. Epic makes a lot of scummy business moves to gain ground in the PC market (buying off timed exclusive deals and stuff like that). While each move can be argued from different angles (one of which is them often being good for the devs themselves), your mileage will vary. Though imo, if you go down that rabbit hole then I can't really imagine the line someone can draw with other companies as most of them do the exact same shit.

There's also the fact that Tencent owns 40% of their stocks so there's a growing debate regarding if information is being sent over to China from the platform. Nothing has actually been found to suggest as such though and, honestly, this also leads into a whole other rabbit hole of a conversation many other plaftorms are in too.

Last, and the one I simply don't agree with, is the stance that people really hate having a separate launcher for their games. I honestly hate to sound this way but... imo, it's incredibly hard for me to even see the other side here. Like... I guess the best way to put it is that people love the neat ecosystem of every game being on Steam (even though that makes Valve a monopoly but hey). Personally, I couldn't give less of a damn about having to click on a separate icon but the opposite mind certainly exists.

I'm obviously speaking as someone who's made up their mind so it'd be fair to take what I said here with a grain of salt. Basically, it's not going to brick your computer or do anything a service like, idk, Amazon, doesn't already do so the rest is up to you.

tl;dr not really imo but fuck forknife

Can't deny how much I got a kick out the free games a week they pull out. I don't give'em my money either so everybody wins

Honestly? Just wait.

Seriously, the games will hit Steam sooner or later. There’s no way in fuck they’ll be an Epic exclusive forever, definitely not a series this massive. They’re ridiculously overpriced currently and apparently there’s a few problems with them right now. If you just wait, the glitches will be ironed out and you’ll almost definitely get them at a cheaper cost on Steam.

Me personally, I won’t support Epic. I don’t like their user experience, and I absolutely despise some of their scummier business practices. On top of that, they pretty much lost the rest of my good will when they made it mandatory to have an EPG account to play console games. I got Rocket League as a PS Plus game a few years back, and bought it on Switch, and both versions are now essentially locked out unless I make an account for a service I don’t want. 

Epic is shitty, but it's not shitty in that many ways every other PC platform isn't already. Basically every major games publisher in existence has a laundry list of questionable and outright consumer and worker-hostile practices that have simply been obscured over time by both the companies and their supporters. Boycotting them is not only denying yourself something you could enjoy, but literally worthless in the grand scheme of things, because the problem with businesses being shitty isn't one of individual consumers, but the systems that protect those businesses. 

EDIT: actually, I don't know if discussion of piracy is frowned upon here. I checked the rules and didn't see anything, but I'll remove this paragraph just to be safe.

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EDIT: actually, I don't know if discussion of piracy is frowned upon here. I checked the rules and didn't see anything, but I'll remove this paragraph just to be safe.

The main thing we hammer down on, from my knowledge at least, are things like links or directions on how to do it. Otherwise if it's just minor conversations/ opinions, it's usually fine.

It is certainly a more... sensitive thing to gauge immediately.

Is that a command?

But They Must Scream

If that's a metaphor that they shouldn't talk, then I agree. 

I mean he says what everyone else already has said about the modern games writing so yeah 

Watched it a bit ago but from what I remember of it, can't say I really disagreed with him on anything. Just sort of repeating what's become obvious at this point. Good watch from what I recall tho

Zippo's blog, if anyone needs a link.

Nothings been confirmed as false or real yet. Zippo does however say there that he expects a reveal some time in March and... There's only today and tomorrow left. March always seemed a touch early to me, personally.

Can't wait for everyone to discredit him simply because of a date that can be easily pushed back any time.

Most of what Zippo says in the "leak" is pretty vague, and all comes with the disclaimer that he's actually not sure of the specific details. I'll not be writing off the leaks as fake just because the date isn't correct, but I'll need all of the games he mentioned (Modern 2D game, Modern fully 3D non-boost game  with multiple characters and a collection of ports/remaster) for me to be sure that Zippo's leads weren't bad ones. I'm pretty confident at least that Zippo has put this information out there because he has reason to believe it's all real.

Please announce it tomorrow after Mario dies.

Whatever makes it better than the last season they put out. This show deserves everything imo.

Maybe they can work out a deal with the son of John Witherspoon in the meantime and actually hire him this time rather than giving him the cold shoulder for no reason.

Sonic Shuff- oh wait.

Pardoneme?

I got you fam:

No, she's opened her eyes a lot. 

She's squinting

she got sand in her eyes one time and never wanted to again.

As blind as Brock from Pokemon is blind: Not at all. It's just to show their always deep in thought or something.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EyesAlwaysShut

CROW DRIP

I doubt you'd be able to find a match to even test it at this point.

No way. People love to overexaggerate that games quality.

It may not be how most people imagined the advance games would evolve into, but it's really not bad at all. Just different.

I will say that the game really, really loves Pop-Up Spikes and platforms and obstacles that can crush you to death.

It's pretty bad. I've got a soft spot for it, and I think Advance 2 is worse, but the amount of glaring flaws with that game's level design, structure and control are numerous. 

I feel it's in the same category as Sonic CD in that it can be divisive, but overall is generally well regarded. 

It's my least favorite of the trilogy but it's still a fun game in general. I personally consider it on the same level as Mania, though my opinion of Mania is different than most other people's.

It's pretty bad but I can't say it's one of the worst. 

Pardon them for putting Quality of Quantity 

What's a Sonic?

Stoopers gonna stoop.

No, and AFAIK he doesn't claim to do so. He only owns the characters that he created, and the main Freedom Fighters pre-date Penders' work on the comics.

Does Archie own the post reboot version of the FFs?

No. They are the same characters, pre- and post-reboot, and SEGA owns them. 

He claims to own the evil versions but it is very unlikely his work will get far enough along for it to matter.

Archie don’t own the FF, but I think it’s implied they own the redesigns, meaning they’d need redesigned again to appear.

No, Penders doesn't own the Freedom Fighters. They were created in the Sonic SATAM cartoon series, which came out before the comics did.  So technically, SEGA owns the Freedom Fighters and they can use them in future projects if they want to.

No. Regardless of whatever grandstanding he's likely doing now his ownership starts and stops with his own creations and offshoots.

Regarding Archie owning the rebooted versions this is apparently not even true and a member of the Rally4Sally account faked that and from what I gathered they're a fairly infamous person in the fandom so they're not worth paying attention to. I haven't seen updates beyond something Emi Jones shared a few weeks back. For all we know there could be other complications around the characters.

Wait, that was faked? It's a weird thing to fake though, unless said account has a history of specifically disliking Archie reboot Freedom Fighters.

It was apparently one member of the account. I don't follow or keep up with it so I don't know what the status of everything is but I had to go searching for this

Huh, that's good to hear at least. Probably means Ian or SEGA still has the rights to Ian's Post-Reboot characters too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sega owns all the rebooted material because that was what Sega came down on Archie for hard after the Penders stuff.

Oh that's very lame. I just saw the "email" yesterday and assumed the minor typo (It's DHX, not DXH) meant nothing. Annoyed that I fell for it. I have no stake in the campaign but information on stuff is always interesting.

I'm usually weary about the information being put out on the internet nowadays.  Sometimes you come across information that's legit and other times, you come across information that's false.

I assume yes for Whisper, but who knows it could be a no. There's probably a source somewhere. As for Sally: https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/jniyz1/apparently_sega_owns_the_freedom_fighters_but_not/

Is that really a hot take? The Adventure - Dark Age period lasted from 1998 to 2009. That's 11 of 30 years that the series has been around, and said-period also saw the series' most densely-packed release schedule. Plus you're including three major releases from outside that pretty wide window the too. 

The portion of the fanbase who want Crush 40 in every Sonic game (a pretty vocal portion) would agree with you I'm sure.

Before. The reboot added the 'no toes' design rule.

I'm pretty sure this is the issue NICOLE becomes a pariah over Mina's singing.

Nicole as a lynx always was the most adorable design of the Sonic cast, game or comic.

J and Johnny, not really, you can associate them as being fans of the series and they’re a first thought when it comes to reviews but their content isn’t specifically focused on Sonic and doesn’t make up the vast majority, hell I’d consider J more a Mega Man or DC reviewer before Sonic

What is wrong with "blob" feet? Felix the cat had blob feet. Sonic is inspired by Felix. But for some reason people take a big issue when Sonic does it even though everyone wears shoes the majority of the time.

Well I'm sure Kevin was happy with the Sonic movie then...

i am going to assume, no

Not complete control, I'm absolutely certain that they didn't create the Zeti.

But other stuff like plot beats, dialogue and characterization are much more likely. I remember an article about how they were writing the story. (Which, knowing my luck is gonna be on the now decisively nuked TSSZ. 😑)

There's no such thing as having 100% control over a Sonic story

I imagine they were given the concepts SEGA wanted in place (IE - The Deadly Six as villains, the Lost Hex as a locale, possibly only Sonic, Tails and Eggman as major players), but they were given free reign to write whatever story they saw fit based around whatever concepts SEGA told them to include.

1. Lack of marketing.

2. Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled stealing most of the thunder (especially because of the delay that caused TSR to launch after rather than before, which turned out to be necessary because...)

3. The game just wasn't as good as the former two. That's just how it is.

Additionally to the ones Harkofthewaa mentioned, the absolute lack of content, both in the main game and, well, the lack of updates.

They also cut out a huge part of the appeal by making it Sonic only. A lot of people outside the Sonic community got super disinterested when it was clear they dropped the other Sega franchises.
 

It didn't had Ulala

It didn't had Gilius, I mean c'mon

The first two were made during Sumo's prime when they had good will from their previous Sega ports/games (e.g. OutRun 2/2006, Sega Superstars Tennis). It had appeal outside of the Sonic fanbase as some of the series, more so on ASRT it was the first time that they appeared in a game in years.

Plus those came out during good times due to that ASR still had the Wii/DS fanbase, PS3 and 360 at their peak, some people even bought the 360 version due to Banjo. ASRT had the launches of the Wii U and the Vita as well as it came out before the PS4 had its hype so it had a lot of PS3/360 players plus a PC version that had support, more so than the console versions. Marketing for the game was decent, well decent by non-Sonic standards in terms of Sega games at the time. The only clunker was the 3DS version of ASRT while the others had their advantages (extra mode on the Wii U, a pretty good handheld port for the Vita, 720p for the PS3).

TSR by comparison was delayed as the first impressions were not that great, it was a different Sumo due to that much of the staff had retired, its Sonic only focus got rid of any interest from the non-Sonic Sega fans and a gameplay mechanic that might not gel with people while the first two were pretty much Sega's Mario Kart if it played like OutRun and the second had a gimmick that didn't require explaining.

Also by comparing the game, the first two had more passion especially ASRT while with TSR... It was made on a budget but unlike ASR where it had a recycled soundtrack and voices plus that it had to counter that it was also on the less powerful Wii, the focus was on the soundtrack and the voice actors but not as much on the game itself since the first two had extra stuff (earning Sega Miles and Mission mode ala OutRun 2/2006 for the first game, World Tour for the second). A lack of content doesn't hinder a game if it is really good (Sega themselves were a good example with Daytona, Sega Rally, Scud Race) but people expect more and more so if the previous games had them.

Plus poor support especially on the online side really did hinder any chances. ASRT had DLC, more on PC but there wasn't any and it could have done with some... The weirdest thing was that it had the chance to be successful due to that there are a lot of PS4s and Switches about but the problems hold it back...

Oh and CTR came out that had a lot more content and support.

Omochao and Zavok got in over Cream and Jet