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Everything posted by 8ther
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Is Heroes one of the "bad Sonic games"?
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It certainly is in my book.
That being said, there is stuff to like about it too so it's easy to see why others do enjoy it. Sadly, it is better than the majority of games we got last decade though.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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I absolutely love it. Each time I try to contemplate if my love is misplaced, I go back and play it and have a blast all over again. Was getting straight A's in the levels until Rail Canyon too.
I think it's good but there's undeniably a lot of jank in there. If they ever DO remake those three games from that Adventure era, out of the three of them, Heroes is the one that's probably the most in need of a touch up.
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Harkofthewaa and Supah Berry reacted to this
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Not too bad but far from great.
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Jingilator reacted to this
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It just stuck me that i, a Resident Evil fan won't be able to play RE8 due to the next gen console being nigh-impossible to buy
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If those Capcom hacks are anything to be believed we are getting PS4/XBO ports too. Which I tend to be believing as the play testst were apparently done on PS4 pro's.
Also I'm on the Resident Evil Ambassadors E-mail list and I was invited to apply for a closed beta test over the weekend and it was stated that the tests would be on Current and next generation consoles.
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Is it true that Sega has rehired several people who worked on the Adventure games?
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Did Dems just win the senate?!?
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Is the online to TSR dead?
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Does it count as dead if it was never alive to begin with?
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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What really killed the online was the lack of a spectate/wait feature. You'd have barely a minute to search for a lobby during the countdown, once the race started you got thrown into an empty one instead. So even if there were an active lobby chances are you won't find it.
It's straight-up unfinished and makes you wonder why they even bothered including it.
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I liked Tails' voice in Heroes
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it was annoying at times and his acting wasn't that good, but he was honestly my favorite during the adventure era. unlike the other two young male VAs from SA1 & SA2, the Heroes kid actually sounded alive and emotive, and in smaller doses like the voice clips in Battle and Advance 3, he sounded even better.
I'm probably biased tho because Heroes was my first 3D sonic but still
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If Sega were to remake Sa1, or 2, How different will the story be with all the retcons and character mandates Sega made in recent years?
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i doubt they'd bother to change anything significant. that would require effort.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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Could an Adventure remake work in the Boost formula?
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Could the two styles ever be combined into one cohesive gameplay experience? Yeah, I think so. Though, as for an actual remake... eh, probably not.
Moving ahead with an all new project would leave the game open for editing so that the gameplay style has the best chance possible at getting a good footing. You wouldn't need to make the levels any particular way because "Well, that set piece was there in the original so it has to be here too..." or anything like that. Working in an existing framework would just hinder it all from the start. Not to mention piss off Adventure fans in the process.
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Hot Take: SA1 is the best 3D Sonic game
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That take is mildly warm at best
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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Is it true that Sega screwed over the Mania team?
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They were contracted to do a game, they got paid for that, they didn't get any revenue from the sales itself. Like normal contractor work. We can discuss if this is a good system or not, but they did not get screwed over in the way that they did something super uncommon or screwed up, they just got handled in the usual way contractors are handled, no matter the company or industry.
Now, Sega delaying Mania on PC to put Denuvo on it and disguising it as polishing the game from the Mania team, so far that one of the devs called them out, is another story. They screwed them over in that part.
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Blue Blood and Supah Berry reacted to this
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@Thigolf is bang on. There's no evidence that the Mania developers were screwed over our mistreated by SEGA. Contract work is what it is. The system is cynical and could be improved by the contractees, but it's fair and standard.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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I wager the majority of the Mania Team went in knowing in advance and anticipating most of the consequences on taking SEGA's bait. They didn't care if they didn't make money, they're just glad their passion and vision for Sonic could offically be realized. Anyone on the staff who did raise a stink on the circumstances were likely out of the loop and thus never took them for granted.
Now to assume the team still has the desire to try out something like Mania again, that's a fairer reason for uncertainty.
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Shadow is not nice
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Don't @ me, But i'm almost certain the next mainline game will be heavily Adventure-inspired, not necessarily SA3, or a remake of SA1/2, but a boost game with Sonic's friends playable with their own stories.
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@Speederino . _ .
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Between SM64 and SA1, Which game has aged the poorest?
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SA1 hands down.
It still has that 90s cheese to it and because it opted to use newer cutscenes (at the time) to tell its story it comes off as very awkward and stiff with questionable acting. The gameplay itself is ok with a few flaws.
Mario 64 still has that timeless appeal while Sonic is forever trapped in the 90s. It was destined to fail because of that design flaw alone. I could go into more detail but I'm gonna be reviewing the game soon so I don't want to spoil everything.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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Where were all the people who cried "Shitty Friends" when Mania Plus came out?
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Unbelievably, yes; there were people who didn't know about Mighty and Ray, and complained about shitty friends when Mania Plus was announced.
I mean fortunately they were ridiculed, but still. On a more serious note, at the very least Mania's playable characters don't have the godawful voice acting and piss-poor writing that garnered much of the "Sonic's shitty friends" moniker way back when (even if it steadily became a complaint more localised to the likes of Charmy)
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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The thing about Mania is it remembered the moderation needed to add loads of new characters; as in they were optional and if you wanted to just play as Sonic, they weren't shoved down your throat every ten seconds.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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mania built off of a well-studied and proven-successful style, with the base game characters playing pretty much identically to 3&K, and the dlc characters being based on the same core mechanics. plus if you don't like a character you can just choose not to use them and they'll barely be present in the game; cutscenes are voiceless, textless, and generally minimalistic and the only "forced" character switching comes up in encore mode and even there it's avoidable if you know what you're doing. it's really not much like the games that created such negative opinions of sonic characters in the first place.
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It's pretty obvious people only hate "Sonic's shitty friends" when they are screaming annoying lines, play shittily, or a combination of both.
I can't remember anyone having a problem with Blaze because she plays like a Sonic character and she is written in a non-annoying way. In the middle of the "Sonic's shitty friends" phase, she emerged and everyone liked her.
Barely anyone has been bothered by the existance of the characters, they are just bothered if they are used badly. Which they have been for a large chunk of the franchise. But in the handful of cases where it's not the case, noone cares.
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Supah Berry and Blue Blood reacted to this
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In Mania their presence in the game is optional in every sense. They don't even affect the story in any meaningful capacity aside from that one scene in the tornado. If you want Sonic Mania to be a Sonic only affair it literally can be. It's basically leaning hard into established, inoffensive game design vs taking a bet on something new(Any 3D Sonic game).
The game didn't even bother with any new characters that weren't obvious transformative takes on old ones. The first Sonic to do this...ever, I think? Maybe there's a GBA game or something I'm missing.
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@Blue Blood A shame too since I would have loved Amy in Mania, especially if she used her Advance 1 playthrough, though not solely on the notion she is a girl. I realised the pattern that if creative teams make female inclusions solely based on gender balance rather than actual character appeal and potential it tends to SUCK.
At the end of the day I can see WHY there isn't anyway. Classic era Sonic had barely any female characters, and truthfully Mighty and Ray have deserved a turn much longer than Amy, who still at least gets SOME exposure in the modern games. Plus configuring Amy to work with everything in Mania would likely be a lot more convoluted (speaking from experience, if it's like the original games programming wise nearly every object would need to be reconfigured to recognise Amy's attacks as well as the spin ones, which is likely why the Amy fan mod keeps her spin attacks).
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I distinctly remember one reaction video to the original Sonic Mania trailer where someone said "Knuckles is too new for me."
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@Plumbers_Helper and @Harkofthewaa
This garbage reaction video where the woman in the red vest says "Knuckles is too future for me" at 1:24. I remember that quote so clearly and found the video by Googling the quote, which only turned up one result which was a post of mine from Retro also citing this video.
The people in the video look like they only ever played the original Mega Drive games. Apart from the guy who won't shut up about Sonic being too slow...
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Iizuka doesn't want to return to the Adventure formula, yet he's interested in remaking SA1?
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People can change their mind sometimes. The way I see it is that while he would like to revisit the original Adventure, he can't really think of how he can expand the formula more for a new game at the moment. And if he's really insistent on wanting to remake SA1, who's stopping him? (Well asides from us)
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Jingilator and 8ther reacted to this
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I mean he can just remake it with a different playstyle all together
...Boost Adventure...
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