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  1. I'm only comparing them because they were some of the only members I saw who didn't think the game was the Holy Grail during reveals. Man, I had no idea everyone hated ArtFenix. Have I hit a fucking nerve or something?
  2. I want to make it clear that the game does get loads of things right though. I'm playing it right now on my Gamepad and the amount of 3D platforming is fantastic. I think the detractors of this game should at least play it and see what they think of it first-hand, in the same way I try to see their point of view.
  3. His attitude was annoying, perhaps, but he did point out worrying signs that everyone blatantly ignored. Same with Hogfather. How is it any different to how every Sonic fan in the universe got on their high horse about Sonic 4: Episode 1 when the game turned out less than stellar. I didn't see anyone go: "Well, don't say I told you so that the physics, rehashing and bosses were a worrying sign". A few members noted worrying signs about the game's direction and were completely ignored during hype. They have every right to finally discuss their problems now people are actually listening.
  4. To be fair to Artfenix, he did raise problems with the game that everyone ignored due to hysteria hype. He raised the issues with the simplified art design, he raised the problems with the 'it's a me Mario, no really' poor imitation design and he also raised the problems with the fact the game's story reveals looked like the story could potentially miss out on a lot of potential (what's Lost Hex etc) before the game was even out! Okay, he's acted a bit silly and is overly harsh with the game, but isn't that to be expected when everyone was gushing over the game simply because it had simple 3D platforming. The same can be said for Hogfather, whose opinions about the controls, wisp motion control and tutorial system was completely ignored and turned out to be completely true. Most of us are guilty of ignoring the tell-tale signs of the problems of this game in production. Hell, I'll be honest and said I did too. The simple nostalgia references, like the running animation and classic badniks, and the emphasis on platforming filled me with unrealistic expectations. I still like the game, but Artfenix has been right on certain scores. I don't agree with his hostility to the game, but the guy does have a point.
  5. I don't understand why people are so anti game reviews. They claimed the game has poor controls, cheap level design and is too slow and plonking for a Sonic title. All these points are pretty much agreed on by critics, fans and most people. The controls are very weak. Sonic doesn't turn properly when he runs (it's very stiff) and it messes up the game experience because of the jerky way he runs around. He also moves incredibly slow in mid-jump unless you are running, so unless you have a good momentum run then it is very likely to die by falling in an bottomless pit since the platforms never seem to accomodate the shorter walk-jump range. The game also does a terrible job at explaining the moves of the game, and I only just figured out how the wall-running mechanic actually worked after I... That is fucked up. There should be a bloody tutorial in some way. The tips in the gamepad were rubbish. The level design is just agonizing at times. Springs throw you into enemies, there are loads of insta-kill death hazards which happen randomly and without warning, the attack pattern for enemies (do I kick or homing attack) is incredibly unclear and often the wrong choice leaves you hurt and the tube levels randomly stop into an bottomless pit and you are expected to turn to the other side of the tube before dying. Essentially, you have to memorise when to turn in mid-run. In fact, the game is often trial and error. The game also is far too slow at times. I'm thinking of levels like the autoscroll ones, where you wait ages to do slow plodding platforming. There's nothing necessarily wrong about this, but Lost World is rubbish at it and it certainly isn't anywhere near the quality that Mario offers (which the game is ironically imitating). Then, there are the host of other things that aren't in the game, such as complex 2D level design and complete lack of rolling physics (this is probably the only game where they aren't even thought of), the fact rings are meaningless other than providing 'health' and the awful controls of the Wisps and Circus missions. I do like the game, but the critics aren't talking nonsense, this game does have many issues.
  6. I've looked at the GIF, and I concede it's possible that the reviewer intentionally died. However, that's not proof that the reviewers secretly hate the Sonic franchise, only that this specific reviewer was lazy and recorded a fake death that was meant to emulate a death he actually suffered through poor controls rather than record a genuine death. The GIF can only prove that the reviewer is lazy and does not prove that the reviewer, and all other critics by extension, secretly hate Sonic.
  7. I was actually kind of stunned by the Deadly Six final bosses, because I actually think Sonic kills them. The lines they have, such as 'death's cold embrace', and the way some of them fall in lava. Man, Sonic doesn't fuck around anymore.
  8. The idea that gaming critics are paid off by companies to give certain games a good score is a massive conspiracy theory that has very little, if any, evidence to support it. Gaming critics are just like you and me and are employed to give their personal opinion about games, nothing more. Oh, but I guess the positive reviews for Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic 4: Episode 1, Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations were just the result of Sonic Team paying off the critics. Shame they didn't pay the critics off with all their games! WHOOPISE! The reviewers for Lost World tended to criticize the game for poor controls, being too slow and cheap level design. All of these points are true about the game and it's just denying the facts to disagree. And with that GIF, it's possible that the reviewer faked the death to try to get the point across about the poor controls. However, that's more to do with reviewer laziness and incompetence and does not equate to critics giving certain Sonic games bad scores because they aren't get bribed by Sonic Team. That's not to say that people shouldn't make up their minds about the game, of course they should! I really like Lost World, but I can see why the reviewers, who aren't hardcore Sonic fans like us, found reason to dislike this game. This whole conspiracy theory about game critics is fucking stupid and needs to die in a fire.
  9. It's more likely than the reviewer having a secret evil hatred of Sonic and recording them-self intentionally dying to slam the game. Let's just put it that way.
  10. Absolutely not! But they were very good at automated speed thrills aside from some control issues and some trial and error. If that's what the player wants (which seems to be surprisingly high with some) then it's definitely good at it.
  11. I can't wait until all Sonic fans hate Lost World in a year's time like they do with Generations. I swear I'm the only one who still loves Generations...

    1. Mandyrobin

      Mandyrobin

      You're not the only one. I still love Generations. :)

    2. Wraith

      Wraith

      me too bro. me too

    3. DocAzure

      DocAzure

      ...I don't know who you've been speaking to.

    4. Speederino

      Speederino

      I still love it just as much as I did back then.

    5. Jack / Joker

      Jack / Joker

      Actually a lot of people still like Colors and Generations. The idea that we immediately hate a game after it's been out a year is grossly exaggerated.

    6. Grim & Gritty CC14
    7. Cyrus

      Cyrus

      Whatchyou talkin' 'bout? Generations is still awesome. People just stopped gushing over it.

    8. Soniman

      Soniman

      Am I the only who-

      NO YOU'RE NOT

    9. spinny

      spinny

      I still love Generations with all of my heart.

    10. Detective Shadzter

      Detective Shadzter

      I thought most people on here love Generations. I like to play it now and again, but I'm not a fan of the boost gameplay in 3D. Much prefer the 3DS version, myself.

    11. Celestia

      Celestia

      What SuperJoker said.

    12. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      I love that game as much as I love unleashed, alot.

    13. Sean

      Sean

      They're all lying you're still the only one in the entire world

    14. C4k3

      C4k3

      Pfftahaha.

    15. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      i love generations just as much as i always have

      which is not at all

    16. Carbuncle

      Carbuncle

      No need to be a smarty Sean.

    17. Kiah

      Kiah

      Me hating Sonic Lost World is NEVER going to happen. The same thing with Sonic Generations.

    18. Sean

      Sean

      But you swore you were the only one, I was just reaffirming that belief !!

    19. Soniman
    20. Carbuncle

      Carbuncle

      You are taking the piss Sean, and honestly, I would expect better from a moderator.

    21. Sean

      Sean

      b-but you were the one who

    22. Jack / Joker
    23. Wraith

      Wraith

      he made sean cry

      i say we kill him

    24. Diz

      Diz

      What do you mean, how can anyone hate Generations? Does not compute.

  12. The reviewer probably just got confused because they weren't expecting a thin, crumbling path above a bottomless pit on the first level. It's really not as ridiculous as people are making out.
  13. It's pretty appalling gameplay I agree. However, that is a very thin line of ground to run on, that crumbles, for a first level. It's pretty tricky for a non-Sonic player. This is how my boyfriend used to play Sonic Generations, he was horrendous at it. We have to keep in mind that we are all experts in Sonic. The critics aren't as good as us at Sonic.
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