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    batson reacted to Simasuu in Rarest Sonic appearance you have witnessed?   
    I want to hear what is your personal rarest Sonic appearance you have witnessed.
    What do I mean by that? Well something more obscure that is not very related to the main Sonic series. Not saying that it can't be related to Sonic or Sega in general, but something that you have found outside Sonic. You get it? Good.
    As an example, I'll start.
    When I was 8 years old or something, I visited this huge amusement park in Helsinki, which featured an arcade hall with pinball machiness, rally cabinets etc. Obviously most of them were made by Sega, and they featured this cool logo theme video where a shark was diving in the ocean "jaws" style, with it's fin only visible above water. However, when the "shark" got up from the water, you'd see that this "fin" was only Sonic's spike, and there he was giving a thumbs up to the player with SEGA logo fading in. Cool stuff. Does this mean that Sonic can canonically swim without a lifejacket?
    If you happen to know where I could find this shit, I'd love to know. Please post in the thread if you have any idea!
    I'm trying to come up with other instances. Please post your original stories if you have any, I don't mind the generally known Sonic weird tales but it's always funnier to hear new personal stories from people themselves.
     
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    batson got a reaction from Snowragnarok in Who is your least favorite Sonic character?   
    You're right. Even after all these games we don't know what exactly Orbot and Cubot do. We've seen them do menial labor like cleaning, but surely Eggman must have regular "mindless" robots to do this for him? Why did he went through the trouble of creating those two sentient, speech-capable robots for no good reason? Seriously, Orbot and Cubot just suck.
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    batson got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Is Sega intentionally shipteasing us?   
    Hey look, it's one of my threads from back when I was a whipersnapper! Now I need to look it over and make sure that 2009 batson didn't say anything that 2021 batson has to issue an apology for.
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    batson got a reaction from Stasis in Is Sega intentionally shipteasing us?   
    Hey look, it's one of my threads from back when I was a whipersnapper! Now I need to look it over and make sure that 2009 batson didn't say anything that 2021 batson has to issue an apology for.
  5. Chuckle
    batson got a reaction from Azure Blue Tori in Is Sega intentionally shipteasing us?   
    Hey look, it's one of my threads from back when I was a whipersnapper! Now I need to look it over and make sure that 2009 batson didn't say anything that 2021 batson has to issue an apology for.
  6. Chuckle
    batson got a reaction from Cuz in Is Sega intentionally shipteasing us?   
    Hey look, it's one of my threads from back when I was a whipersnapper! Now I need to look it over and make sure that 2009 batson didn't say anything that 2021 batson has to issue an apology for.
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    batson reacted to Piko in Why do some fans hate the spindash?   
    The only issue I can think of is that the spin dash lets you build up speed right off the bat. In Sonic 1, you have to use your surroundings to build momentum which, while it can be pretty hard to pull off, is way more rewarding.
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    batson got a reaction from Piko in Why do some fans hate the spindash?   
    I have some conflicting opinions on the spin dash. On the one hand, I love it. I love performing it and the classic games in which it feature are my favorite games in the franchise.
    On the other hand, I am also very fashinated with the idea of Sonic 1 where the only way to build up speed is to take advantage of the environment, and I wouldn't mind seeing this concept being done (if done well) in a 3D game.
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    batson got a reaction from Iko in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    For me personally, the peak of the internet was the 00's. And part of it was the fact that at the time, the internet was still seen as something fundamentally different from real life. Basically, people didn't take the internet seriously; it was a fun toy that you used on your spare time. This means that the internet as a social platform wasn't considered to have the same stakes as real life. Someone saying something stupid on the internet wasn't considered the same thing as saying something stupid in real life. This created a playful and iconoclastic internet culture where being funny was basically the end point to everything. Meanwhile nowadays, there basically is no difference between our internet identities and our real life identities. People percieve their lives on the internet to have the same importance as their lives in general. This means that people are expected to behave essentially the same on the internet as they do in larger society. Basically, the internet is "serious business" in a way that it wasn't 15 years ago. The internet of 15 years ago was like a raunchy Las Vegas Casino "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". I miss that anarchic spirit.
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    batson got a reaction from Piko in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    For me personally, the peak of the internet was the 00's. And part of it was the fact that at the time, the internet was still seen as something fundamentally different from real life. Basically, people didn't take the internet seriously; it was a fun toy that you used on your spare time. This means that the internet as a social platform wasn't considered to have the same stakes as real life. Someone saying something stupid on the internet wasn't considered the same thing as saying something stupid in real life. This created a playful and iconoclastic internet culture where being funny was basically the end point to everything. Meanwhile nowadays, there basically is no difference between our internet identities and our real life identities. People percieve their lives on the internet to have the same importance as their lives in general. This means that people are expected to behave essentially the same on the internet as they do in larger society. Basically, the internet is "serious business" in a way that it wasn't 15 years ago. The internet of 15 years ago was like a raunchy Las Vegas Casino "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". I miss that anarchic spirit.
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    batson got a reaction from Angyu in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    For me personally, the peak of the internet was the 00's. And part of it was the fact that at the time, the internet was still seen as something fundamentally different from real life. Basically, people didn't take the internet seriously; it was a fun toy that you used on your spare time. This means that the internet as a social platform wasn't considered to have the same stakes as real life. Someone saying something stupid on the internet wasn't considered the same thing as saying something stupid in real life. This created a playful and iconoclastic internet culture where being funny was basically the end point to everything. Meanwhile nowadays, there basically is no difference between our internet identities and our real life identities. People percieve their lives on the internet to have the same importance as their lives in general. This means that people are expected to behave essentially the same on the internet as they do in larger society. Basically, the internet is "serious business" in a way that it wasn't 15 years ago. The internet of 15 years ago was like a raunchy Las Vegas Casino "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". I miss that anarchic spirit.
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    batson got a reaction from Solister in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    For me personally, the peak of the internet was the 00's. And part of it was the fact that at the time, the internet was still seen as something fundamentally different from real life. Basically, people didn't take the internet seriously; it was a fun toy that you used on your spare time. This means that the internet as a social platform wasn't considered to have the same stakes as real life. Someone saying something stupid on the internet wasn't considered the same thing as saying something stupid in real life. This created a playful and iconoclastic internet culture where being funny was basically the end point to everything. Meanwhile nowadays, there basically is no difference between our internet identities and our real life identities. People percieve their lives on the internet to have the same importance as their lives in general. This means that people are expected to behave essentially the same on the internet as they do in larger society. Basically, the internet is "serious business" in a way that it wasn't 15 years ago. The internet of 15 years ago was like a raunchy Las Vegas Casino "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". I miss that anarchic spirit.
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    batson got a reaction from Solister in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    Trust me young ones, as bad as being on the internet can be nowadays, it's nothing compared to being on the internet in the 90's, when you seriously had to wait 45 minutes for a single image to load.
     
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    batson reacted to Salamander in Are you annoyed with your current online experience?   
    I know all these things have a certain amount to do with when you grew up and what you were familiar with, but I really do think peak Internet for me was fandom messageboards and Flash gaming.
    On comparatively small messageboards like this, then, as outlined above, it's like a community; and there's more room to have something resembling a discussion, to really feel like you're exchanging ideas with people on your level.  Whereas social media is just so isolated and isolating; it's not structured for discussion, it's structured for individuals screaming into the void.  You might say that messageboards are villages, and social media is the city.  (If I'm honest, I don't really like the way the status updates are used as a chatroom, either.)
    Flash gaming, meanwhile - well, I'm sure I've expressed this view here before, but the amount of creativity you could experience from amateur developers across the world just for light-bite games you could finish in a few minutes or hours at most was incredible, and what was an offer was just so much fun.  Escape games in particular were my jam.  I'm impressed that they now exist in, if you like, live-action, as things you can engage in with groups of actual people, but that's... sort of the opposite of everything which ever made them interesting to me, so.  Some of this still exists in indie gaming, of course, but it's not quite the same, and not just because it's no longer free.
    Corporatisation, centralisation, anonymisation, alienation.  These social malaises affect every generation in different ways, and this debate has been going on for centuries.
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    batson got a reaction from Angyu in Should Sonic games start being made in the West?   
    This is gonna sound harsh, but at this point, I think the Sonic series simply needs to be taken out of the hands of Sonic Team. Whether this means it goes to a western developer or another eastern is less important. What matters is that Sonic needs a completely new creative team behind it.
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    batson got a reaction from Chili Dawg in Should Sonic games start being made in the West?   
    This is gonna sound harsh, but at this point, I think the Sonic series simply needs to be taken out of the hands of Sonic Team. Whether this means it goes to a western developer or another eastern is less important. What matters is that Sonic needs a completely new creative team behind it.
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    batson reacted to CrownSlayer’s Shadow in Sega of America vs. Sega of Japan: Who has been better for Sonic?   
    Honestly, If it weren’t for those very factors, Sonic probably wouldn’t have even had much of an output to begin with.
     
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    batson got a reaction from Sonictrainer in Game Series You Almost Missed Out On   
    Believe it or not, but, The Legend of Zelda. I was always very aware of the series and it's various games since I have a friend who is hugely into the series, but I never sat down and played one myself untill about 2008 or so when I finally tried The Twilight Princess. After that I went back and played Ocarina of Time (my favorite so far!) and still a few years later A Link to the Past. Most recently I bought and played Breath of the Wild, which, like everyone else says, was really amazing.
    The thing about Zelda is that it's really not my genre of games. I'm mostly into platformers and also various fast-paced action games with constant obstacles and never a calm moment (which is why Sonic is the perfect series for me). But the Zelda games that I've played have all been so damn good that I'm willing to take my time with them in a way that I seldom do with those kinds of more slow-paced video games.
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    batson reacted to Dr. Mechano in So which games take place on which "Earth"?   
    The problem is, the "two worlds" thing is actually three or maybe even four worlds.
    Because the series isn't just divided by "human" and "animal" worlds anymore - but also by "classic" and "modern" dimensions as of Forces, retconning the entire classic line of games as being a separate Sonic altogether. Does the classic dimension also have a human and animal world? It shouldn't, given there are non-Eggman humans in those games (Witchcart, hieroglyphs of humans in Sonic Blast, human-like stone faces on Angel Island, a humanoid angel statue on Little Planet, etc.)
    The entire franchise is now a bunch of irreconcilable contradictions and this never needed to happen. One planet, one dimension; That's the way things were when things made sense.
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    batson reacted to Dr. Mechano in So which games take place on which "Earth"?   
    So, how do we explain all the ancient echidna arcitecture in the Mystic Ruins? Or how Angel Island is seemingly present on both planets?
    Or, y'know, Emerald Town - where Tails lives - being accessible by walking from both Central City (which appeared in Shadow the Hedgehog and is definitely in the human world) and "Knuckles' house" which is presumably on Angel Island since it's right next to the Emerald shrine?
    Sonic geography's a nightmare.
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    batson got a reaction from Speedi in Do cultural values affect how Sonic is portrayed?   
    True, but even so, the Japanese typically haven't been able to completely rid their incarnations of Sonic from their Japanese-ness. In most older western versions of the character (SatAM, AoStH, early Archie, various commercials, ect) Sonic was very hungry for attention, always bragging about how cool he was. In most incarnations written by Japanese writers however, Sonic isn't nearly as concerned with making sure that others adore his coolness. This is obviously a result of the cultural difference between the American "look at me!" mentality and the Japanese more socially reserved behaviour. Sonic is still cocky in Japanese versions, but in a very different way to the socially pro-active American way.
    For many years I've often heard it said that when The Simpsons premiered in Japan back in the days when Bart was essentially the series main focus of attention, Japanese viewers were put of by the character to the point where Japanese advertising for the show started to focus more on Lisa of all characters. I'm not sure to what extent this story is factual, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true. It demonstrates how an attention-whore (if you excuse the term) like Bart Simpson and western Sonic comes of in Japan.
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    batson got a reaction from mitsunari88 in Do cultural values affect how Sonic is portrayed?   
    True, but even so, the Japanese typically haven't been able to completely rid their incarnations of Sonic from their Japanese-ness. In most older western versions of the character (SatAM, AoStH, early Archie, various commercials, ect) Sonic was very hungry for attention, always bragging about how cool he was. In most incarnations written by Japanese writers however, Sonic isn't nearly as concerned with making sure that others adore his coolness. This is obviously a result of the cultural difference between the American "look at me!" mentality and the Japanese more socially reserved behaviour. Sonic is still cocky in Japanese versions, but in a very different way to the socially pro-active American way.
    For many years I've often heard it said that when The Simpsons premiered in Japan back in the days when Bart was essentially the series main focus of attention, Japanese viewers were put of by the character to the point where Japanese advertising for the show started to focus more on Lisa of all characters. I'm not sure to what extent this story is factual, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true. It demonstrates how an attention-whore (if you excuse the term) like Bart Simpson and western Sonic comes of in Japan.
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    batson got a reaction from Sonictrainer in Do cultural values affect how Sonic is portrayed?   
    True, but even so, the Japanese typically haven't been able to completely rid their incarnations of Sonic from their Japanese-ness. In most older western versions of the character (SatAM, AoStH, early Archie, various commercials, ect) Sonic was very hungry for attention, always bragging about how cool he was. In most incarnations written by Japanese writers however, Sonic isn't nearly as concerned with making sure that others adore his coolness. This is obviously a result of the cultural difference between the American "look at me!" mentality and the Japanese more socially reserved behaviour. Sonic is still cocky in Japanese versions, but in a very different way to the socially pro-active American way.
    For many years I've often heard it said that when The Simpsons premiered in Japan back in the days when Bart was essentially the series main focus of attention, Japanese viewers were put of by the character to the point where Japanese advertising for the show started to focus more on Lisa of all characters. I'm not sure to what extent this story is factual, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true. It demonstrates how an attention-whore (if you excuse the term) like Bart Simpson and western Sonic comes of in Japan.
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    batson got a reaction from Eurisko in Was Sonic at any point the most popular video game franchise in the world?   
    I was also 7 in 1992, and yeah, that's how I remember it as well. Everyone had their own favorite video game franchises of course but Sonic was that one thing that ALL the kids were into. Err, well, the boys atleast. Girls usually weren't all that into video games at the time. But with that said, I'm sure even most girls at the time did like the character on some basic level even if they didn't play the games.
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    batson got a reaction from KnuxDLX in Was Sonic at any point the most popular video game franchise in the world?   
    I know that even during the height of Sonic's popularity there were individual games in other series that sold even better than the best selling Sonic games. But I strongly suspect that when taking the entire franchise into consideration, in other words merchandise, comics ect, Sonic was most likely the biggest video game based franchise during the early 90's. I can't imagine what other franchise it could possibly have been. I mean yeah, Mario was obviously going as strong as ever at the time but I remember Sonic way overtaking Mario's popularity during approximately the 1992-1994 period. This is anecdotal of course, but I can say with confidence that Sonic was the big video game obession among us kids at the time, kinda like Pokémon was the major worldwide obession among kids during the late 90's/early 00's. I recall seeing Sonic merch everywhere, with Mario probably coming in second, and I honestly don't think any other game series was ever close to those two during that time. Street Fighter was of course huge and so was Doom and Mortal Kombat, but they never approached being merchandizing empires in comparasion to Sonic or Mario. 
    What do you think? Can we Sonic fans take pride in our favorite series at one point being literally the most popular series in it's entire mediuim or not? Does anyone have any numbers or something of the sort?
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