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Shaddy Zaphod

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  1. Jedi Fallen Order looks nice but does anyone know if it requires a server connection that EA will shut down? They do that for a lot of games and I'm not buying something that will die in a few years.

    1. Sean

      Sean

      Steam version requires an EA account and online activation. Not sure about consoles.

    2. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      I'll have to get back to you on that once I start the game up myself. Though, outside of multiplayer games, I've honestly have never heard of a game like this being inaccessible due to server shutdown. Like, what games (EA or otherwise) have done this?

    3. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      Well, even within multiplayer games, it shouldn't be allowed (and probably isn't in most of Europe, the laws just haven't been tested or enforced) to completely lock off access to a product people payed for unless it's a subscription game.

      But to answer your question, Darkspore. Not a great game, but a singleplayer game (with minor PvP elements) that was completely killed when it's servers were shut down. A one-time payment, mostly singleplayer-focused title, totally unplayable at the hands of EA.

      I'm not asking for infinite support, I'm just against a game requiring support to even be run. And I wanna know if this one is like that.

      I suggest checking out Ross's behemoth of a video on the subject when you have an hour to spare if you want more information.

    4. Bobnik

      Bobnik

      Does the game even do any other DRM outside of the usual steam and/or origin logins? From what I recall, the game itself doesn't have any online components, so not sure if the same situation can happen. 

    5. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      I guess the main question is, can you run it offline after you install it? If you can run a game offline, that version can be preserved and publishers can't kill it.

    6. Bobnik

      Bobnik

      Steam doesn't mention anything about always-online DRM, only activation, so I'd assume you can play it offline. Otherwise we'd have people screaming about DRM already like they were with the latest CoD. 

    7. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Been busy all day so sorry for the late response here but yes, you can play the game offline. Literally the only thing needed is an origin sign in that can be done locally.

      Though tbh man... I personally don't think that this is much of a worry either way. Like here me out, even with the game you mentioned, there are still fan hacks for it that allow it to be played even now (even though I don't know who would ever want to play Darkspore again without online but hey). If there's one thing I've learned about the PC community, they are nothing but persistent. Even for smaller titles (like Darkspore) they'll find a way to keep software up.

      Hell, even most online only games often have fan servers set up for them. I know it's not great to rely on such things and companies shutting down games like that at all without giving them proper offline support is fucked but really... that stuff doesn't really happen often at all.

      Add in that, for this game in particular, it's a Star Wars game and... yeah, it isn't likely for the fanbase to ever going to let it go quietly even literal decades from now.

      Like idk, and don't get me wrong, I understand the worry. Though, at the same time, I personally don't think it's anywhere near big enough of one for it to delay anyone from enjoying the here and now for years to come. If that makes any sense at least... well, I mean as far as PC is concerned.

      rip original splatoon fans in a few years probably... though even then you can easily mod a wii u so hey

    8. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      I'd rather not count on random internet people reverse-engineering files and setting up a server to play a game that was released on life support from the start. Jedi Fallen Order may be safe, but so long as nobody is stopping them I see no reason to believe they won't get greedier until it becomes normalized that games just have to be shot in the back after a few years. If it proves profitable to the industry and no legislation gets passed to prevent it (read: "streaming games" like stadia will do this for every game, no exceptions) that's it. Never expect that extremely rich companies won't do the absolute scummiest things possible to get your money if nobody stops them.

      It'd be easier for me to just not buy games I know are going to die, which is what I'm doing. And hey! That includes this one, so my problems are solved here.

    9. Sean

      Sean

      Could wait and see if a crack ever comes out for the game, though you'd have to keep up with crack updates if the game keeps getting patches. And then Denuvo makes it so that you might be waiting a while before that happens.

    10. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Ok, but I'd be interested to see how often such a blocker comes up for anything other than online only games. It isn't really cost efficient at all for these companies to require anything more than a simple log in for any of these games (especially single player games). Even slightly more and it just becomes an extra cost for them to keep the servers up even a month after initial launch.

      And they know that too considering how rare it is for anything other than an online only game to do that.

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