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  1. Linkara really hit on a lot of the reasons I don't like the Dark Knight Returns much.

    1. Wraith


      It's an interesting concept that's not executed very well

    2. Ryannumber1gamer


      I agree. I don't think the idea of a old and retired Batman feeling the need to return to crimefighting when crime reaches an all time high is a bad idea, it's just I don't think Frank Miller executed it well at all, and there is so, so much I genuinely don't like about his version of Batman as portrayed by TDKR.

    3. Wraith


      I mean, I like where Bruce starts, but this version of Bruce needs to be introspective and self-critical. Frank Miller wrote this as a paranoid screed after getting mugged, so Bruce's new attitude is largely justified instead of painted as the purely emotional over-correction that it is.


    4. Ryannumber1gamer


      I think the issue is that while it starts off with Bruce somewhat understandably feeling like he needs to come back into action, it somewhat devolves into Bruce always kind of being like this, like especially when Superman comes into the picture, Bruce makes a lot of implications and references that he told Clark he should've took over the planet ages ago so they could ensure wars couldn't happen, and things like that. 

      That's a issue with TDKR in general too IMO, there's a lot of mixed messages with Bruce. Sometimes he'll act as we know him to act - guns are cowardly, he won't kill, etc. Other times, he picks up a gun and starts blasting anyways. He'll talk about acting outside the law and the governing bodies, yet apparently he wants Superman to straight up take over the world. Sometimes, they depict Gotham as being inspired to do good by Bruce, other times they're inspired to do awful things while using justice as an excuse. It's so weirdly split on which route to take.

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