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  1. IIZUKA LIES!!! ... Okay, seriously though, isn't it a tad presumptuous to say that Iizuka is counting S3&K as one game here? If he isn't, then Sonic 2 has the most stages, meaning Mania's stage count could be as low as 11 - 14, depending on whether or not Iizuka is counting the boss-only Death Egg or the remake exclusive Hidden Palace.
  2. Y'know what? I don't blame anybody for being concerned that we won't get an explanation for Shadow being evil. It's not as though Pontac and Graff don't have a history of letting key story elements go unexplained. Plus, after Shadow's inexplicable portrayal as a colossal dick in Free Riders, not to mention his trying to murder Sonic simply for having friends in Rise of Lyric, turning him into a straight villain, and pretending that he was always that way, just seems like the next logical step in his character's degradation.
  3. I was going through some old files on my computer. I have no idea what this was about, but enjoy!

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  4. It's kind of funny how, despite being a part of the official image, Zavok still somehow manages to look more Photoshopped in than at least half of the characters who actually were Photoshopped in.
  5. So, how badly do you think Kirk Thornton will suck in Forces?

    1. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      If Orbot's in the game, he should do just fine. As for Shadow, since he's apparently a major antagonist, Kirk should have much more material to work with, so I've got faith.

    2. Joseph Mello

      Joseph Mello

      He just needs to make a deeper vocie and that will do! Why is so hard for him to do that?

    3. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Thronton will be fine since Shadow will apparently have a more active role and Shadow will probably have more personality than the Boom version he had to do. I've always felt he was good fit for Shadow.

    4. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      His voice for Shadow in Shattered Crystal was great. Let's hope he keeps it that way

    5. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      I really don't understand why people exaggerate how bad he is, at this point I've gotten used to him. He seems mostly settled into the role.

    6. SonicWind

      SonicWind

      I mean, he's good. I don't think his voice for Shadow is nearly as grating as everyone makes it out to be.

    7. Fusion Force

      Fusion Force

      I mean, Kirk's voice for Shadow is more of an on/off switch for me.

      He didn't sound good in Generations, but in one of the Sonic Boom skits, he sounded fine!

      In the boom games and the season one finale, he didn't sound good, but in Lego dimensions, he was pretty good!

      I'm just hoping he sounds good in Forces. Like how it was in Lego Dimensions.

  6. I don't know why, but I kind of want to see a The World Ends with You / Ghost Trick crossover.

  7. It honestly kind of baffles me how this idea that Gerald must have reprogrammed the ARK from prison became so widespread. SA2 never states the order of events, only that they happened.

    Seriously, is the logic: A is true, B is true, A cannot precede B, therefore B precedes A, really so difficult for people?

    1. Josh

      Josh

      Maria is killed the day the arc is raided. Gerald would have had to have been arrested then. 

      Gerald has time to reprogram the arc before they find and arrest him, I guess, but it's not a big window of time at all. I can understand where the confusion comes from.

    2. Bowbowis

      Bowbowis

      That's just it though. Project Shadow was shut down, Maria was shot while fleeing with Shadow, but nowhere is it stated that Gerald was arrested during the raid or that he was immediately taken to Prison Island afterward. For all we know Gerald wasn't arrested until several months after the raid.

    3. Josh

      Josh

      Why would they raid the place and not take him then?

    4. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      SA2, much as I love it, doesn't exactly do a great job with covering its plotholes. I mean, the JPN guide claims Shadow was active for one week before the raid. The only other thing I'd assume is that they kept Gerald alive to continue work on the ARK but... that doesn't make much sense.

    5. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      Didn't Gerald mention he saw Maria's name in the casualties of the raid? I doubt they'd give him such document after he was arrested.

      Also it's kinda implied Gerald ''reprogramed'' Shadow somehow.

    6. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      I imagine Gerald evaded arrest long enough to hear of Maria's death, go insane, and reprogram Shadow and the ARK to carry out his revenge plan.

    7. サイヤ人の王子

      サイヤ人の王子

      Regardless of whether or not Gerald managed to evade arrest and proceeded to turn himself in when he finished reprogramming the Arc, the story doesn't do a good conveying the order of events. 

    8. Josh

      Josh

      You have to imagine that happened though. The story itself isn't really clear enough about all this even though it's supposed to be the game's big plot twist. 

    9. Bowbowis

      Bowbowis

      A genius of Gerald's caliber would be way too valuable an asset for GUN to simply let him rot in a cell without good reason, and at the time of the raid they didn't have good reason. Maria was shot because she was helping Shadow escape, other researchers were killed either because they needed to be silenced or because they resisted like Maria did, but Gerald up to that point hadn't done anything other than what GUN had asked. It wasn't until he went crazy and started plotting to destroy the world that GUN would have had a reason to arrest him.

      Point is though that although SA2 leaves the details of the ARK incident ambiguous it's not flat out contradictory as some would have you believe.

    10. Josh

      Josh

      It doesn't make any sense to silence other scientists but leave Gerald up to his own devices on the ark for who knows how long, though. At the very least it requires an organization dedicated to secrecy like GUN to leave a loose end around for far too long, which makes no sense with how extreme they are about...everything else. 

      You can say it's not flat out contradictary if you assume some things but the story doesn't come out in a positive light regardless.

    11. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      I think the main problem here isn't the timeline but the implication itself.

      Gerald, a high alert target for GUN after the raid, who's a researcher and nothing else, somehow evaded the world's biggest military, went back to the ARK, which even 50 years later is filled with GUN robots, reprogramed it with no one noticing, then somehow invaded Prison Island, which would have as much if not even more security as the ARK, reprogrammed Shadow and THEN instead of waking him up and setting his plan in motion then, got capture, executed, and had to wait until someone else woke Shadow up.

    12. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      gerald "finished" shadow, brainwashing him into carrying out his revenge, and then shadow programmed the colony drop based on what gerald had programmed into him. that's the most sensible explanation that I can think of, even if it's hard to imagine how gerald would be able to do any further work on shadow after the raid.

      and it doesn't make much sense for gerald to have reprogrammed the ark while on it because the ark was shut down right after GUN's raid.

  8. That's not a Chaos Emerald. Sorry.
  9. I'll give Forces this: It is full of surprises. This is the first time in a long while where I've been genuinely curious to see how a Sonic game plays out. I can't say whether that will ultimately prove to be a good thing or a bad thing, but it has piqued my interest.

  10. To be fair Jet has a history of saving the world from destruction, but not of saving it from domination. Still, he doesn't strike me as the sort to throw his lot in with a totalitarian regime. Honestly, if they wanted to do an "established hero gone bad" story, without seriously violating established characterization, the best approach would probably be to have Omega captured and forcibly reprogrammed, with Shadow and Rouge being forced to fight their friend while trying to save him from an existence as a mindless slave to the man he hates. Actually, speaking of Rouge and Omega, we haven't seen either of them in Forces yet, have we? I think I could accept Shadow working with the bad guys if he was doing it because one, or both, of them were being used as leverage against him. '06 showed us that the members of Team Dark are pretty tight and Shadow knows all too well the pain of losing a close friend. It's not hard to imagine that he'd be willing to go to some pretty extreme lengths to keep that from happening again.
  11. Honestly, I prefer Blaze as a serial rapist who's after the Chaos Emeralds because she wants to sell them to fuel her meth habit. I mean, sure, that flies in the face of established canon, but hey, SEGA stopped caring about that a long time ago and I never cared about in the first place so, by the logic I've been seeing here, if Forces decides to portray her like that we should all just be cool with it. Right?
  12. Soooo... thoughts: Shadow, Chaos, and Metal are back. Cool! Zavok is back. Ughhh... This Infinite guy looks pretty badass. Kind of reminds me of IX from Chronicles. I approve. Shadow and Chaos are villains again... ummm... maybe Classic Sonic being sent to the present removed him from the time stream, creating a timeline where the Adventure games never happened, so Shadow and Chaos never redeemed themselves. Though in that case Modern Sonic should cease to exist as well... I dunno, there had better be a damn good explanation for this, and it had better not be the new status quo.
  13. How about an Armadillo Lizard? I mean, they look pretty badass: Plus, check out what they do to defend themselves from predators: It's like a Sonic character waiting to happen.
  14. "Menace" is... not exactly the wrong word for what Eggman needs, but it is a rather broad one, which lends itself to misinterpretation. What Eggman really needs right now is credibility, and Chris Knopps is correct in saying that Forces premise does not automatically proved that. If Darth Vader spent the Star Wars movies tripping over his shoelaces, being roundly mocked by the heroes, and generally acting like an incompetent buffoon he would not have much in the way of credibility. It doesn't matter if the plot says Vader is a powerful Sith, that he slaughtered hundreds of Jedi, or that he was instrumental to establishing the Emperor's iron grip on the galaxy, if the film presents him as a bumbler the audience is going to take him as such. Similarly, so long as Eggman (the character, not the event surrounding him) is treated like a joke he is not going to win any credibility points. Conversely, if Eggman starts getting treated as a genuine threat again he'll start regaining credibility and "menace" will follow from there. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that Eggman can't be goofy or that he has to act super sinister. Just ease up on the insults and have him stop acting like a pathetic loser. Instead, return him to how he worked best: A brilliant, hammy, egotist, with a childish desire to remake the world in his own image and the resources, cunning, ruthlessness, pragmatism, and tenacity to make it a reality if the heroes don't bring their A-game. Y'know, like this guy:
  15. I was thinking more along the line of those Che Guevara posters. It fits with the whole revolutionary theme Forces has going: ¡Viva la revolución!