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  1. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

     

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    2. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Man Goku has no place to say who's irresponsible or not considering this whole thing is all his fault

    3. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @Dejimon11 48 hours of tournament, if they go SSJ3, which they need to stand a chance they have 5 minutes to fight.

      Btw here's a list of all options better than choosing fucking Freeza

      -Future Trunks
      -Goten/Trunks
      -Yamcha
      -Beerus dressed up as Monaka
      -Monaka himself
      -Mr. Satan
      -Baby Pan
      -Nappa
      -Radditz
      -Perfect Cell

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      8 universes were going to be wiped out anyway, but Goku inadvertently provided one of them a chance at survival, so...

    5. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Hell, Yajirobe would've been a better and ideal choice than F*CKING FRIEZA!

      This is officially the stupidest thing the entire Dragon Ball series has ever done.

      Period.

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I don't know man, the finale of the Goku Black arc was pretty dumb.

    7. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      @Ratcicle King Yamaha? LOL NO we need Jackie Chun

    8. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Also, how would they get in contact with Future Trunks without a Time Machine? Trunks took the spare one Cell left behind. Besides which, Beerus destroyed the the power source for the time machine Bulma was building in a filler episode. 

    9. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Anyone. For the love of Kami....ANYONE ELSE PLEASE!

      Who the hell is writing this crap anyway?

    10. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @ThePrinceOfSaiyans Shin can use a timering, he's a Kaioshin after all, to get in touch with Trunks and ask him to come back, Gowasu was able to travel to Trunks' timeline, meaning he can use those to go to alternate timelines.

      It won't even be problematic since Future Zen'O comes from the same timeline as Trunks so to complain about him would be to complain about Future Zen'O.

    11. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      On a series note why not her?

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    12. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Chaiotzu though!

      This could be his shining moment since.....blowing himself up against Nappa.....?

    13. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Arale is easily distracted.

      @Ratcicle King I guess that would work.

    14. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @Dee Dude I mean, he could try to blow himself up again, who knows, it might push someone off the arena!

    15. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Videl always has the chance to return to fighting.....

      Ah who am I kidding?

      Appule is the true 10th member the Z-Fighters need!

    16. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      Guys it makes total sense tho'.

      Whoever wins the tournament will be condemning 7 universes.

      They'll have Freeza win, this way it'll all be his fault.

    17. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Watch the plot twist be that they really weren't going to destroy any universe and it was all just a test to see how much everybody can endure

    18. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I imagine Goku is going to suggest that Zeno not destroy the universes so that they can hold a tournament every X number of years. 

    19. Nix

      Nix

      I just want to see Goku try to justify this, especially to all the people who don't know the universe is in danger.  It's gonna be fucking hysterical.

      "yeah, but there's like 1000 million on the line man; like how many zeros is that"

    20. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Ok, as someone who never really followed this series until recently and has only seen up to where the English dub currently is... I find this entire conversation both confusing and yet absolutely hilarious at the same time.

    21. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      You'll be seeing Freeza soon then.

    22. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      The only reason I wouldn't want Future Trunks here is that his life will probably become somehow even more miserable, if the end of the last arc is anything to go by. Who knows, during the tournament he might contract space aids or something.

    23. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Toei is saying hold my beer.

    24. Klinsy

      Klinsy

      If I remember correctly, Freiza's Japanese VA said if he could get one wish from the Dragon Balls, it that is to make Freiza a good guy ... guess someone found the Dragon Balls.

    25. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      LOLOLOLOL no! After all the shit Freiza has done and is essentially the person who's responsible for all the events in the show you don't retcon shit like that.

    26. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I mean, Vegeta has killed billions and he's a reformed person, so I don't see why Freeza couldn't redeem himself, but he likely won't at this point, lol. 

  2. Ugh, why can't every Sonic game be at least half as good as Sonic 3 and Knuckles!?

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    2. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      Then get on with it Diamond, emulate that SHIT!

    3. DiamondX
    4. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      ....what else am i talking about?

    5. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Well then. I hope its good.

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Sonic 3 and Knuckles is the best Sonic game, period. Hell, I'd say it's the best platformer period.

    7. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      I found an online version. See ya when i finish it.

    8. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      Of course, it's good. I mean, you might not like how long the levels can be but the level design is actually pretty solid and the gameplay is just fun!

    9. Joy

      Joy

      At its core, I think people like the game because it balances Sonic's speed, platforming and exploration perfectly for much of its runtime. It gives you opportunities to whizz by with the camera struggling to keep up but at the same time it recognises that Sonic's speed isn't just about getting from A to B but is also a tool you use to explore more of the level.

      The game also puts in an awful lot of effort into making each area feel like an environment rather than a video game level. It also manages to actually tell a pretty good story without any dialogue or being intrusive. The way each level transitions into the next makes the whole thing feel like an adventure rather than a series of stages being played in a particular order.

    10. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Welp, started playing. I love it!

      Also, really, 3 buttons which do the same thing? Why couldnt a button be for jumping and another one for Spin Dashing?

    11. Jeffhog

      Jeffhog

      Every Sonic game since lacked "& Knuckles." COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

    12. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      Because a spindash button is for flithy casuals.

       

    13. Joy

      Joy

      It's all a matter of simplifying to controls. You'll always know what's going to happen when you hit any button. It avoids the possibility of confusion when you're travelling at speed.

      It's also to do with balancing. The spin dash is meant to be a way of getting yourself moving again but the penalty is you need to stop to use it. That's to encourage the player to put the effort into maintaining their speed and flow on their own as much as they can since you don't normally want to stop.

    14. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Welp, i died at the Eggman bridge fight.

      Those bomb sounds are irritating.

    15. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      Use a Fire Shield, it'll help

    16. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      You're playing Sonic 3&K for the first time!?!?!?

      *Grabs popcorn and giant foam fingers*

      GOGOGO

    17. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Indigo, im playing a classic Sonic game for the first time

    18. TheOcelot

      TheOcelot

      @Diamond

      WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

      Enjoy!

    19. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Not having a console until the Wii is the reason.

    20. Milo

      Milo

      Is it bad that I genuinely started chuckling when I saw that this status had seventeen replies :v

      @Diamond From what I've read, it has been theorized that the classic Sonic games all use only one action button for almost every action for simplicity and as a contrast to Mario, which normally uses one button to jump and another button to run faster / use a powerup.

      Depending on the character selected and if there are any shields being used, the action button alone can be used for:

      - Jumping

      - Insta-Shield

      - Flying

      - Gliding

      - Air Dash (Flame Shield)

      - Bouncing (Bubble Shield)

      - Double Jump (Lightning Shield)

      And when used with a directional input, you can do the Spin Dash (down) or Super Peel-Out (up).

      It's worth noting Sonic 3D did change things up (A and C allowed you to jump, while B allowed you to roll when moving or spindash when standing still), but that's because of it's isometric design.

      Personally I don't think it's too much of a problem until you get the Chaos / Super Emeralds, in which an accidental double jump causes you to transform. I will give Sonic 4 a very token acknowledgement of improvement by mapping Super transformations to a different button.

      If they did make a new classic Sonic though, I wouldn't mind another button put up for use, at least regarding special actions with shields.

    21. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      The Super Peel Out is a CD thing, not a 3&K thing.

    22. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Is the Super Peel Out the 8 running sprite?

    23. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      :DYep. Sonic CD only tho

      (and triple trouble)

    24. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      yes

    25. Milo

      Milo

      I know, I'm just highlighting the uses of it.

      *It being the action button + d-pad.

    26. TheOcelot

      TheOcelot

      Yes.

      superpeelout.gif

  3. Wow... Episode 32 of the Game Grumps playthrough of Sonic Adventure was made private...

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    2. LoseR

      LoseR

      They revealed the name of the guy who created the badly done walkthrough they were using.

      People started doxxing him.

    3. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      They made a mistake by name-dropping someone and that person got doxxed.

      They took it down to edit that part out and have already made an apology on Reddit.

      It's not anything "hue hue" worthy.

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Well, from what I can gather, Arin was insulting the guy who made the walkthrough he was using because it didn't tell him where the Emerald shards were. 

    5. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      I don't watch Game Grumps, but I'm curious what happened.

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Oh yeah, and they name dropped the guy who made the walkthrough. Thanks -Virtual Tiger Ike-. 

    7. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      EDIT: Oh, didn't see what you said.

      Also, aren't the Emerald Shards randomized?

    8. The Deleter

      The Deleter

      Ho boy

      Edit: oh, right, that

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      @Zaysho, yeah, they are, but Arin hasn't figured that out yet. 

    10. Komodin

      Komodin

      ... Well, way to go, Arin.

    11. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Considering Knuckles's radar ISN'T broken in SA1, it shouldn't be THAT hard to find the shards, or he could just use the hint balls since there's no score penalty like in SA2.

      But wait, this game requires some effort to play, it's clearly shit.

    12. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      SIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHH

      I prefer SA2's treasure hunting solely because you can drill from the air.

    13. The Deleter

      The Deleter

      Arin isn't that bad of a gamer if you give everything he needs to know right out in front of him; just look at how far he got in the Nintendo World Championships. It's just... he isn't very intuitive, to say the least.

    14. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      The drillin' is fun. 

    15. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      @Ike: Actually, I think Knuckles controls a bit better in SA2. The radar is just more of an inconvenience.

    16. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      This is why I despise Arin so much.

      He's not only loud, vulgar, and constantly placing himself on such a high pedestal: he's also a massive JERK.

    17. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      Yeah he does control better. It's been a while since I played either game though, so I don't remember much about the radar itself.

    18. The Deleter

      The Deleter

      > Mfw everyone and their mother uses "broken" to discribe something they don't like

      you-keep-using-that-word.gif

    19. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      @Forte I don't think he was trying to get the guy doxxed????

    20. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      Ike, Arin should know the consequences of calling someone on the Internet out like that, especially someone with as many toady fans as him.

      Even if the guy wasn't doxxed, for Arin to call him out because he himself doesn't understand how the game works- or, more accurately, doesn't care enough to do minimum research on a game before playing it-  makes him look like an arrogant douchebag.

    21. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      @Deleter: Fair enough. Should I have said a step down?

      With regards to this Arin guy, he just sounds like an idiot that needs something to complain about. I don't understand why he's getting so much attention still.

    22. The Deleter

      The Deleter

      Yee. It's just that I've been seeing the term being thrown around everywhere lately. Don't mean to be rude; it's just something that I think needs adressing nowadays. : P

      Also I feel I should bring up that Arin referring to him isn't all exaggerated hatred and contempt. He says the name of the guy, says the description which is basically "dedicated to *sweetheart* for *sweet saying*", then reads the post date which was like nine years ago, and then they say "I wonder if he ever got together with her?" and they both go awww

      Idk maybe it's worth nothing but I don't think the episode was that bad

      Him getting mad that there are emeralds in enemies still, now that's ridiculous

    23. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      I just see it as people taking it too seriously but

    24. Komodin

      Komodin

      Taking what seriously? The doxxing? 

    25. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      No, his hatred of Sonic.

      I'm just getting tired of hearing all about how bad of a person he is, really. It's draining.

    26. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      The video is back, here it is if anyone wants to see it:

      They replaced the guy's name with Pizza :D. 

  4. My Switch is more of a paperweight than my Wii U was TBH.

     

    1. Biggs

      Biggs

      Seen this meme so much and I don't know what it's trying to say. It took the Wii u its entire lifespan to accrue that library, and nearly half of those switch games are new and in the first year. Also all the ports are at worst graphically enhanced, at best much expanded like mk8d.

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      The problem is the Switch is being praised as though it's hot shit, yet doesn't currently have a ton of original content worth buying. I like the thing conceptually, but I still only own one exclusive for the thing. 

    3. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      So one console's stellar lineup that it slowly built up to across it's 5 year life overpowers it's more successful successor's lineup that is being built within 1 1/2 years?

       

      That being said, I do agree that it feels like anyone who buys Wii U are being punished for supporting a dead console. Nintendo needs to work some serious magic at this E3, if they want to keep their lucky streak going.

    4. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      @ThePrinceOfSaiyans I mean, people were willing to eat up the XBONE and the PS4 back at their launches and they had literally nothing worth actually owning so I can't really say this is all that surprising. To the switches benefit, even though it is mostly ports right now, at least they are good games from a generally good first party line up so I don't mind (though, if they pull more of the same crap that they did with DK:TF I might revoke that last statement).

    5. Biggs

      Biggs

      Really? I mean yeah it hasn't got as big a roster of exclusives as PS4 but it has only been out a year and in that time we've had Odyssey, Arms, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Kirby, plus cross gen BOTW. Plus it's got a much stronger base of 3rd party support. That's a dream year for any console let alone at launch. It kinda is hot shit.

      Admittedly I don't like Arms at all but some do

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I'd argue Odyssey is the only exclusive worth getting, but that's me. 

    7. Biggs

      Biggs

      Fairs. I would try Xenoblade but it's a timesink game which... Well, I don't have the time for lol.

    8. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      They're both currently failures to me because neither of them have a Kid Icarus game.

    9. KHCast

      KHCast

      See the difference is one failed and one didn’t. Can’t change that no matter how much you personally don’t see it’s worth. On top of that, Wii U had shit marketing which confused customers and lack of grabbing appeal to the major audiences.

    10. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      The point is being missed is that the Switch at the moment is not looking to please Wii U owners who bought the Switch as well.

      It's looking to please thoses Wii owners who they lost after the Wii U came out. Myself included.

      That's why all these Wii U games are getting ported to give them new life again to those people they lost.

    11. Rusty Spy

      Rusty Spy

      Sonic Mania

      Wii U: [  ]

      Switch: [X] 

      I rest my case

    12. Milo

      Milo

      Clearly whoever made this picture hasn't been on enthusiast sites (like ERA) enough. There's a handful of complaints about the Switch's library being a sea of ports; especially so after the last Nintendo Direct from March (and by ports, I'm referring to both ports of existing Wii U games and ports of third-party games that have come out on other platforms a year or so after the fact).

    13. KHCast

      KHCast

      @MegasonicZX tbf those systems had games guaranteed to come to them via 3rd parties regardless of launch, so there was still not that much fear regarding lack of games unlike, say, the vita or Wii U, which didn’t have much in its 3rd party support, and what it did get was rarely advertised. Plus PS4 had a good stream of indie games to keep people’s attention until the next big exclusive. A model Microsoft and Nintendo adopted 

    14. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      Relevant:

       

       

      @Strickerx5 You basically consider all consoles that are not NES, Game Boy, and 3DS failures because they don't have KI games. You have the right to remain silent

    15. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      @SupahBerryNah, those consoles get a pass because they were not enlightened by Sakurai's masterpiece at the time.

      These two have no excuses.

    16. Milo

      Milo

      @Rusty Spy Supporting/alternative argument:

      Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric

      Wii U: [X]

      Switch: [   ]

      Case re-closed.

      (I still like my Wii U though ;_;)

    17. Conando Claus

      Conando Claus

      I mean, no one bought a Wii U. I guess you can be salty about it, but it's not surprising that they'd try to sell their Wii U games to an actual audience.

    18. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Virtual Console

      Wii U: [X]

      Switch: [  ]

      I rest my case.

    19. Conando Claus

      Conando Claus

      @Tails spinI bought a Wii U, and I'm actually far more pleased with Switch than I was my Wii U. It's just better than the Wii U due to it actually doing the gimmick far better. And games that are ported generally have extras or better graphics and performance. I, for one, can't wait for Hyrule Warriors Definitive because it's the 3DS game that doesn't look and run like ass, along with the second season pass.

    20. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Yeah in all seriousness, as someone who has brought both systems at release, I have no problem in saying that the Switch has had a better first year than the entire lifespan of the Wii U and deserves the praise it's getting. Yeah, a lot of it is due to the leg work the Wii U did but that still doesn't change the fact that the output of games is far better than the first two years the Wii U was out and that it's actually succeeding with its gimmick to boot.

      While I still think the Switch is a tablet with a slightly dated mobile gpu, it's still far more ahead of the curve than the Wii U was when it came out. Again, the Wii U was doing something that the other two big names had been doing for the better part of the decade at that point. As much as I harp on Nintendo and their low powered tech, at least they're capturing a market with the Switch that the other two simply weren't touching which, imo, is a smart move when you're that behind.

      Add in that there are still quite a few games coming (simply going off the ones we know of) and, which really can't be stressed enough here, the system is still less than a year and a half old and simply put, it's no wonder that the Wii U has been left in the dust. Sucks for those with a Wii U (especially people who waited a bit for it), but that's just how business works.

    21. Mr Loopone

      Mr Loopone

      The Switch has a better library than the Wii U ever got in general but that's because it has support from 3rd parties, some who never had a game on a Nintendo console before such as Milestone. This alone means that it got more racing games that the Wii U ever got (just an improved version of Need for Speed Most Wanted, Mario Kart 8 where you must buy the DLC otherwise you get a barebones game and Fast Racing Neo). Ironically Ubisoft who supported the Wii U until it got dropped off hasn't supported the Switch very well (e.g. Steep got cancelled, no Far Cry 5/Assassin's Creed Origins), similar thing for WB. Even EA hasn't done much on the Switch and so far even the Wii U got more games from them and that says something. I still wait a bit for more games and the cost to go down before getting a Switch. By the way, I tried to support the Wii U as best as I could, felt like a wasted effort... The Wii U does have games that the Switch won't get such as the Mario platformers and Tokyo Mirage Sessions.

      About the ports, a good thing for people who haven't played the games before but a bad thing for those who have the original game with some exceptions (e.g. Mario Ksrt 8 Deluxe is the version that should have been released). At least the Switch is getting a selected amount of ports rather than the PS4/Xbox One where it feels like its getting a "remaster" every month, now those feel like port machines with a couple of exclusives/online only games with PS4 at least still getting some Japanese developed games such as Yakuza. Even that was on the Wii U but sadly wasn't released in the West...

  5. Speaking of Sonic 3, there's been plenty of time to let it stew, Sonic 3 or Sonic Mania?

    1. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I'm personally torn. Sonic 3 is an original experience, but Sonic Mania cuts away a lot of the fat seen in the classics. 

    2. Sean

      Sean

      Sonic 3

    3. Wraith

      Wraith

      Sonic 3

    4. Your Vest Friend
    5. Maxtiis

      Maxtiis

      Sonic 3 still has 25 years of fandom love behind it, so it'll be pretty hard for anything to ever top it. It's the same for any game that becomes the quintessential experience of a series.

    6. JustAfooL

      JustAfooL

      Mania, if it had more original levels. Otherwise, Sonic 3&K/3 Complete.

    7. Nast

      Nast

      for those saying sonic 3 (most of you lol), i'm curious as to why?

    8. Maxtiis

      Maxtiis

      More originality, Knuckles' levels have more significant usage of his abilities in 3 beyond just Mirage Saloon Act K, Flying Battery was better designed in 3, a more fulfilling climax/ending, to name a few.

      Of course Mania comes very close, and that's a hell of an achievement for a fan developed game seeking to live up to the reputation of a predecessor with two decades of hype fueling the desire for a faithful follow-up.

    9. Kiah

      Kiah

      I honestly can’t answer that as I find both games fantastic and blew me away at the time of their respective reveals and releases. Mind you this is coming from a predominantly  Modern Sonic fan...

      Let me get back to you as I seriously need to think about this. 

    10. Nast

      Nast

      @Maxtiis those are very good points, though i'm not sure about flying battery. i think the original has more mechanics and setpieces that kinda waste your time, while mania's version is faster paced and more interesting to me as a result

    11. Maxtiis

      Maxtiis

      Mania's takes me about 6-7 minutes to beat just act 2, whereas I can finish 3's in at least 4, but that's just me. The wind just gets on my nerves a bit and the boss's hitbox is just odd.

    12. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      Unleash-Hic. 'Scuse me.

    13. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      honestly i don't think i could choose. both are great, but in slightly different ways.

      though if the question was "which would i want to play right now", it'd be mania, just because of how much more time i've already put into 3&K. even the best games can't be played endlessly.

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    15. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Sonic 3.

      Outside of its originality, it's just the more complete game. For the time, it was actually pushing the industry forward in every aspect and was simply a well made, fun game at its heart.

      Mania is certainly good and I still believe that it's first 4 acts are downright the best showing of the classic formula to date but after that... everything else just falls flat for me (besides the music). The later levels fall into the same basic pitfalls seen in other classic titles from years back. It basically being a level compilation doesn't help it. There is virtually no story to speak of. And, while it can't be helped, it doesn't have Sonic 3's credit of actually being technically outstanding for the time.

      Though, this is coming from someone who is always going to be more Modern focused than anything so take this as you will.

    16. Wraith

      Wraith

      Sonic Mania has better level design than Sonic 3 IMO and the Drop Dash is a godsend. If I didn't dislike the bosses in Mania so much It'd probably be even.

    17. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      Sonic 3. Mania didn't keep my attention long, Sonic 3 gets me back every once in a while.

    18. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      Sonic 3. Not even a contest.

    19. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      I don't know... From what I hear from everyone, Mania surpassed Sonic 3K and is the best Sonic game. So be it I guess.

      To me, Mania has the better art and level design, and for some, gameplay is everything. To me, Mania lacks in setting, structure, and the experience as a whole. Mania felt way too artificial to me, is hard to explain, but I can't help but feel disappointed about the way the game feels.

      Is too much of a "party feel", it has no feel of adventure like Sonic 3K and even Sonic 1 did. The stage selection feels disjointed,  the fact that the reused stages changed enough for some, not for me, specially Act 1 of most of them. I was hoping for more changes to it, like Hydrocity for example was an insane disappointment in the first time I played it. I was dreaming about how a Act 2 would have changed, and at the end... It barely changed. It made me see that despite the insane hype surrounding it, it wasn't for me. Meanwhile it surpassed everyone else's expectations.

      I learned that I look forward about things that others don't. What is small details for some, to me is crucial. I was looking forward to the feel that Sonic 3K had, for the insane hype from the reveal to be justified, to feel nostalgic with everyone else and "feel the magic". I didn't see it. I still don't. And it just got worse because people treat it like the second coming of Christ. It makes me very upset that I do not see the big deal.

      Sonic 3K is just a game has almost everything on point. Like... Every section is well made. Mania surpasses some sections but heavily downgrades others. (Example Sonic 3K has great level design and great feel of adventure. Mania has near perfect level design and zero feel of adventure for me.)

      Sure, is nostalgia... But Sonic Mania wasn't for those fans of Sonic 3K in specific? What happend to me though? What I was expecting? lol

      I still hope for a Mania 2 to change that. A smaller game with fully original stages and a more solid setting and structure is all I ask for.

       

      Phew, that's a book.

  6. I'm genuinely curious. What are your biggest gripes with Pokemon? 

    1. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      There aren't enough Mystery Dungeons.

    2. Diogenes
    3. Unidus

      Unidus

      Probably recently mega evolutions and z moves. 

      ... and on another note of recalling "the good old days" I would have to say that I miss a more innocent time before I knew or cared about EV training.... 😕 it's really ruined the single player experience for me, because now all I'm thinking of when I catch a Pokemon is "gotta get all the effort values where I want them before I continue onward."

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I'm surprised people bother with effort values during the main game. Natures I understand, but effort values seem like overkill with how overpowered the experience share is already. I worry about effort values, egg moves, and IVs post game, and that's only if the generation's meta is fun. I haven't done a ton of breeding this generation because of how bad the meta is.

    5. Dee Dude
    6. dbzfan7

      dbzfan7

      As a casual, it felt like the same shit each time so I kinda just got bored. Well Mystery Dungeon was the same, but had a story I could enjoy.

    7. TCB

      TCB

      Metagame sucked the fun out of it for me

      There are others but that one really comes to my mind

    8. Ferno

      Ferno

      No games with more than one region after Gen 2 (then again I started with Gen 2 so I got spoiled into feeling like every game should have more than one)

      also a lot of it feeling sanitized and toned down after gen 5, and every character being super friendly at all times, etc

    9. Unidus

      Unidus

      Also, Gen 3's Battle Frontier was far superior than any attempt that followed in my opinion.

      So many options...

    10. Heckboy

      Heckboy

      it's boring. Never got into it as a kid, and when I tried one of the games when I was a little older I just got sick of it really fast.

    11. Red

      Red

      Competitive. Pokemon should abolish it altogether. Pokemon has always been a series about "winning with your favourites, using only strong pokemon is shallow" so to have a metagame that is that is the complete opposite of that is kinda bad.

      This is what made Let's Go fun. They got rid of the nonsense and focused on making the game more relaxing to play and less frustrating.

    12. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      You can't avoid some Pokemon being better than others. That holds true even for Let's Go.

    13. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      Gen1ers or claiming any design past the original 151 is shit when Gen 1 didn't look that great design wise either.

    14. Unidus

      Unidus

      Gen 1 was a mess.

    15. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      gen 2 is superior

      fite me

    16. DanJ86

      DanJ86

      Ash Ketchum.

    17. Ferno

      Ferno

      also they need to finally fix that confusing back and forth when its time for a pokemon to learn a new move

      also also, let me deposit and withdraw pokemons within the same options menu

    18. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      @Ferno Ever use the Move option in these games? Its so much better.

      Oh as a side note, remakes of games like FR/LG and Let's Go not having evolutions to Pokemon available to use in any way. Onix, Golbat, and Scyther aren't great until they evolve.

    19. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Introducing and dropping things every generation, damn near annual releases, gating off useful features like move tutors to whatever immediate third version or sequel or alternate telling (since we've got all three accounted for at this point), battle facilities, while a nice idea (and actually give me ideas for teams now and then), are a real slog if you play more casually and you just want to learn new moves or get the useful items (Battle Tree did address this somewhat, but it can be kind of a pain). The last one kind of amuses me because money is fucking worthless in these games by the time you reach the postgame and I think that'd be a better option. I would also like to see more postgame challenges and areas to explore. A second gym challenge, if not a whole new region, would be great.

  7. So yeah, did Nintendo win? Dat new Zelda, man...

    1. Your Vest Friend
    2. Badnik Mechanic

      Badnik Mechanic

      If showing 2 games and no system to play them on is winning then sure.

    3. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I'm more hyped for a single game than everything Sony showed, so that's winning to me, I guess. 

    4. Kuzu
    5. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      That maybe a win for you but that's incredible sad.

      and by the looks of it the only NEW game announcement is another Mario Party game.

    6. Boomer
    7. KHCast

      KHCast

      ...how is that sad? Someone has preferences that are different from yours and so that's sad? 

      If Zelda looks more interesting to them, there's nothing bad about that. You can still enjoy your Sony 

    8. Badnik Mechanic

      Badnik Mechanic

      Lol I love this.

      Nobody even mentioned any other company. Yet we have two cases of 'well Sony'.

    9. KHCast

      KHCast

      Tails remarked at Prince liking Zelda more than anything Sony showed, saying that's "sad". Which is a dumb thing to say as you're belittling someone's personal preferences. If you liked Sony more than what Nintendo is showing, good for you, but there's nothing "sad" about preferring Zelda and Pokemon to an entire conference, which tbh, wasn't even all that amazing this year.

      So don't sarcastically act like nobody was doing anything to spark what I said 

    10. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      that's putting words in my mouth I sad nowhere in my sentence anything pertaining to Sony. Nor the fact that he likes Zelda. All I said was that he thinks Nintendo won cuz he likes what he saw. I on the other hand don't share that feeling since I wanted to see more game announcements.

      And to add to that. I don't even own any Sony consoles so what your saying: " enjoy your Sony" doesn't even matter to me.

    11. KHCast

      KHCast

      The Sony bit was pulled from Prince, to which you responded to his comparison of the two shows. 

      "

      That maybe a win for you but that's incredible sad"

      why is it sad that he personally feels like Nintendo delivered the best content this year? I mean you could have used better words if you meant something else.

    12. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      Your just cutting it off at that point there. I clearly go on to talk about Nintendo only announcing another Mario Party game.

    13. KHCast

      KHCast

      ...but what you said there doesn't counter or make better the part I quoted specifically, nor have anything to do with it. Again, why is it sad? Seriously answer that. Why is it sad what he said that he feels that way?

      He said a single game was more interesting than an entire show, to which you say is sad. Why?

    14. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      Dude seriously get off my fucking back. I have nothing against his liking of the game or thinking that they won. What else do you want from me?

      I don't think they won. Which is what I think is incredibly sad that they didn't announce anything else.

      So if it makes you fucking happy, my sentence was not a complete thought at that moment.

      Are you happy now.

    15. KHCast

      KHCast

      You're point or whatever it is you were arguing simply didn't translate well in the text, simple as that. I'm not mad or anything, but using "sad" simply just isn't a good way to express what you meant as it is usually a term used to negatively associate someone's idea or opinion. Calm down 

    16. Kuzu

      Kuzu

      Can you guys stop? Who the fuck cares who likes what.

    17. KHCast

      KHCast

      I'm not arguing about who likes what...I literally said like whatever you want. 

  8. Jesus fucking Christ! Switch controllers cost more than individual fucking games. Fucking Hell, Nintendo. 

    1. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Are you serious?!

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Yeah, the fucking Joy Cons cost 79.99, and the Pro-controller cost 69.99.

    3. Toa Axis

      Toa Axis

      @Dee Dude A Joy Con (just one!) costs $50. The Pro Controller costs $70.

      I wish I was making this up.

    4. Nix

      Nix

      you have to pay $50 for half a controller

      just

      what the fuck

    5. Dee Dude
    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Well, I guess I'm not playing with friends, cuz I'm not spending that much on a fucking controller.

    7. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      DO. NOT. LOSETHOSE. CONTROLLERS.

    8. TheOcelot

      TheOcelot

      As a PS4 owner I know have that feels :D

    9. LovieHats

      LovieHats

      *slightly opens wallet* thanks nintendo

    10. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      So, we have a $300 system, $69-79 controllers, and a paid online service. I'm a broke-ass college student, man. This is gonna hurt.

    11. Badnik Mechanic

      Badnik Mechanic

      And you don't get a game included with the system.

      So nearly $500.

    12. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      Good lord......

    13. CottonCandy

      CottonCandy

      Wait, I thought it came with the game console..

    14. Badnik Mechanic

      Badnik Mechanic

      Oh yeah and you also need to pay for a mobile app to do shit which should be free.

    15. ThePrinceOfSaiyans
    16. Nix

      Nix

      that they're even doing the communication shit through a fucking app is asinine

    17. Ferno

      Ferno

      No wonder the guy at the start of the Switch reveal trailer had such a big fancy house, he could afford all that.

  9. Dragon Ball: Project Z trailer

     

    1. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      Looks alright but I really wish they'd stop rehashing the entire anime's plot verbatim. It's incredibly tired and stale and it's only gotten more glaring every time they do it.

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I mean, it's been half a decade since they've retold the story, and all these "original stories" have kinda sucked anyway, so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. 

    3. Ferno

      Ferno

      The DBZ story- THIS TIME IN *insert console gen here* GRAPHICS

    4. Spin Attaxx

      Spin Attaxx

      On the one hand, it looks interesting, but on the other... yeah, it does seem to be another "Raditz to Buu, maybe some Super or GT, what the fuck is an OG Dragon Ball" game.

    5. Harkofthewaa

      Harkofthewaa

      Lookin an awful lot like Xenoverse 3 there.

    6. TCB

      TCB

      I'll be nice to have a DBZ game akin to the new one piece game far as it's own little contained plot or whatever

    7. Adamabba

      Adamabba

      Looks pretty neat so far.  Gotta see some more gameplay footage

    8. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Eh, looks pretty meh so far if I'm being honest. Outside of being glad that they're sticking to Fighterz's way of rendering out the characters, I'm still not really sold on anything else.

      Especially with this being yet another retread of Z. Look, I get it, the few original stories they have tried for these games haven't been hits (though I don't care what anyone says, I still want 21 in the new series don't@me) but this is the same way I feel about things when it comes to Sonic. They ain't going to get better if they stop trying. It has not been that long since they retold the story and there are only so many more times I can sit through the same scenes getting played out but with a new coat of paint before the impact of it all dulls out completely.

    9. Ferno

      Ferno

      i cant wait to see GOKU-*boom* for the million time

    10. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      The original video games stories won't improve. Dragon Ball Super itself is struggling to tell engaging stories. The video games don't have a chance as far as I'm concerned. 

    11. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Dear lord, I just realized something too. This is a gd rpg... This is probably going to be substantially longer than your average game.

      You're telling me that there's going to be next to nothing new in a story for a game like this? ... yikes

      @ThePrinceOfSaiyansAgain, rather them keep trying than just fall back on the same story for the dozenth time which, in itself, wasn't perfect.

    12. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      It wasn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds better than these attempts to shake things up. They can keep trying all they want. I don't have faith in their ability to improve, especially when games are about the game, not the story. 

    13. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      @ThePrinceOfSaiyansLeaving out my usual "I'd rather have the complete package rather than just one part of it in a $60 game. No matter how important that one part is" stance, this is an rpg. I'd argue that story is still... pretty vital in this case.

    14. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      Okay but hear me out here: DBZ is three decades old.

      People have always been engaged in Dragon Ball more for the fights and the setpiecing more than the plot itself, and I don't think there's any shame in admitting that even if it would be a welcome bonus - and that being said, we've literally seen all of this shit before. It's really hard to get invested in stuff when you already know how it ends, and moments that were once iconic in the sphere of anime have just been milked to death to the point that I think you can accurately make Green Hill parallels now.

      Ultimate Tenkaichi might have been a huge dumpster fire overall, but the way Hero Mode utilized the existing characters was a huge breath of fresh air and it's honestly a crying shame that it didn't happen in a better game. We need more of that.

    15. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Eh, I'm gonna need to see some statistics when you start throwing around assertions like "people care more about the fighting than the story telling."

      I don't have any problems getting invested in the Star Wars original trilogy despite seeing it a hundred times. It's also been 5 years since we've experienced the original story in an era where we've experienced Super and these new game stories, so for ME this is a breath of fresh air. Years of crap and I finally get something tried and true.

    16. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      ...considering the Shonen archetypes that DB practically pioneered I honestly can't tell if you're being serious with this.

  10. Super Knuckles should have been green IMO. It looks good on him

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    1. Tara

      Tara

      I honestly found it a little jarring that he didn't glow gold like literally EVERYONE else.

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Was Tails gold? He just flashes, so I can't really tell. Then again, I suppose Knuckles just flashes too, so he appears pink.

    3. Tara

      Tara

      His super form in Sonic 2 has a lot more white in it than Sonic's (and indeed, it is mostly just flashing), but there's a noticeable hint of gold in the flashing.

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Wait, Tails can turn Super in Sonic 2?

    5. Tara

      Tara

      Yes.  Or am I thinking of Sonic 3?

      STOP CONFUSING ME.

    6. TheOcelot

      TheOcelot

      Ages ago I read an article which said Tails wanted a green super form in Sonic 2 :huh: 

    7. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I think green works for Knuckles because green is red's compliment. If Tails were to change color, I'm not sure what'd work best. Light blue, maybe?

    8. Ryannumber1Santa
    9. Tara

      Tara

      Except Blaze is powered by the Sol Emeralds.  Different thing.

    10. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      and Knuckles is powered by Super Emeralds :U

    11. Tara

      Tara

      No, he's not (unless you're talking about Archie, which I'm not).  He collects the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3+K just like Sonic and Tails do. XD

    12. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Only Tails needs the power of the Super Emeralds to turn Super. Knuckles can go Super and Hyper.

    13. Ryannumber1Santa
    14. Tara

      Tara

      And also the Super Emeralds aren't even considered canon in the games (and as far as I'm aware, the monicker "Super Emerald" is a fan-made term, otherwise there's no canonical reason to believe they're any different than the main seven Emeralds).

    15. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      @Tara

      I refer you to my previous statement.

    16. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Well, other than the fact they're freaking huge, and the ones we know aren't. 

  11. 0:00-0:08 accurately describes trying to power scale modern Dragon Ball.

     

    1. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      I don't know why you bother

       

      the system has been broken from a mechanical standpoint since the Saiyan arc, and broken from a narrative standpoint since the Red Ribbon arc

       

      modern DB is just more blatant in not giving a shit when Z half-assedly tried to bullshit around making any sense

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I disagree vehemently. Yeah, not much thought went into power scaling, but that's because not much thought needed to go into it. It was straight forward in how it approached hierarchy. Sure, there was some gray area, but the whole, the hierarchy was easy to understand. Modern Dragon Ball doesn't make a lick of sense because it's introduced 2 new types of Ki and a Goku who absorbed Super Saiyan God, yet can still use Super Saiyan God? It's a total mess, so much so that writers for the show are outright contradicting themselves on Twitter. This wasn't a problem in the original run, and it's not because the writers had a concrete understanding of the scale, it was because the scale wasn't convoluted like it is in modern Dragon Ball. 

    3. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      It was definitely a problem in the original run. From the first point that Goku arbitrarily became "stronger" and won a fight even though he received no new information or any change in approach, it's been like this. The "convoluted scale" isn't the issue, the entire nature of power progression in the series has been fucked for decades. Modern DB's inconsistency with the original series is a guaranteed result of trying to fix the progression issues of Z with different power sets and more of a tier-based approach. Otherwise you just hear more gigantic numbers read out even though every fight looks the same.

       

      Better argument: Toriyama obviously never cared, the anime staff never cared, so why the hell should we?

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      And here's the answer: Because Goku's entire motivation is about power progression. I find this "oh power levels don't matter" nonsense to be genuinely fascinating. Like, how do people attain this mindset without snapping their spines bending over backward trying to justify such a perspective? Combat is defined by power levels in this series, and conflicts are resolved through combat. Even removing Goku's motivation from the equation, there needs to be a clear hierarchy to establish stakes and tension, which the original franchise was able to do. Modern Dragon Ball has been a tensionless snoozefest in part because of how power scaling is handled, although, I attribute that moreso to the gods, who claim to be neutral, yet keep fixing whatever problems Goku and Vegeta create. 

    5. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

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       I find this "oh power levels don't matter" nonsense to be genuinely fascinating. Like, how do people attain this mindset without snapping their spines bending over backward trying to justify such a perspective?

      Because it's about the story, and not the numbers and comparisons and shit? A story where everything is rigidly stuck in absolute definition of ability is one that's completely predictable and boring. Dragon Ball has constantly, constantly set and broken rules for itself since it's inception because otherwise it's a terrible story. This is why Tenshinhan can hold back Cell. It's why Krillin can cut off Frieza's tail, why saiyans from U6 can unlock transformations as fast as Goten and Trunks. It's because if everything worked by these same rules, the Tournament of Power would have been 1 minute of Goku one-shotting every single other enemy and 47 minutes of Jiren battle. That's a terrible fucking story.

      I mean, Dragon Ball has already been poorly-written for years, having actual twists and turns to the narrative is just trying to keep it from getting worse. Pro-Power Levels is pro-predictability.

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      Combat is defined by power levels in this series, and conflcits are solved through combat.

      In the later parts of Dragon Ball and most of Z, this is partially true. In much of early Dragon Ball combat is defined by strategy and wit. Krillin didn't beat Bacterian by farting on him because his fart stat was at the correct level to purchase the "mustard gas" perk from the skill tree. Super is desperately trying to shuffle and work around these limitations, and while I'll certainly say it does so clumsily, it's Z's fault because we were only ever told a given character was stronger, when all of the fights look and move pretty much exactly the same. I'd much rather see a series try to fix things than wallow around in boring numbers land.

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      there needs to be a clear hierarchy to establish stakes and tension, which the original franchise was able to do.

      That's not something you need arbitrary numbers or broken scaling to do. Take JoJo or My Hero Academia One Piece for example. Not all of their villains are physically superhuman, but their unique abilities (and most importantly their understanding of those abilities) are what allow them to rise to the top, but anyone is capable of taking them down with the right approach and the right counter. This makes the story unpredictable, something Dragon Ball constantly has to sidestep with some old guy trapped in a sword, some magic water or an elder Namek. Basically all of Super's oh-so-heinous scaling issues could be solved with a plot device like this, and what that thing is is basically meaningless. So if what it is, when they get it or how it works doesn't matter, does the fact that it's not there and they just happened to get rid of a rule that limited the storytelling from being interesting matter all that much?

      Spoiler

      I'll answer for you: No. The answer is no.

       

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      And what rules are being broken when Tenshinhan can down Cell with a technique like the Shin Kikoho, or Kuririn removing Freeza's tail with the Kienzan, or U6 Saiyans unlocking Super Saiyan as quickly as Goten and Trunks did? Seriously, why can't fans of Super defend Super on its own merits instead of trying to find fault with the original series to justify Super's shitty writing? You've basically conceded my point and are trying to justify why Super is different, even though it really isn't. Power still matters, things are just too vague, unearned power ups are more frequent, and there are now blatant inconsistencies. 

      Also, regarding My Hero Academia specifically, there's still a scale, it's just not defined solely by power. Some quirks have the advantage over others. Dragon Ball's scale is defined by power, which is why maintaining a hierarchy matters. 

      And no, that's a loaded question. I don't find Dragon Ball adhering to the rules it has set up to be inherently boring. It's all about presentation. 

    7. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

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      Seriously, why can't fans of Super defend Super on its own merits instead of trying to find fault with the original series to justify Super's shitty writing? 

      Because it's all shitty writing. It's been broken from the start, so why single out Super? It's like blaming GT for you not liking Goku's hairstyle or something. Goku's hair has always looked like that. The scale's always been broken.

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      You've basically conceded my point and are trying to justify why Super is different, even though it really isn't. Power still matters, things are just too vague, unearned power ups are more frequent, and there are now blatant inconsistencies. 

      because vagueness and inconsistency are all that can fester in a universe where nothing works correctly in the first place if you want an actually-entertaining narrative. And inconsistency with Z isn't necessarily a bad thing when it's rectifying a mistake, which is what all power levels are.

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      Also, regarding My Hero Academia specifically, there's still a scale, it's just not defined solely by power. Some quirks have the advantage over others.

      And some don't, but can win anyway, because the people using them understand and apply their abilities better. Something Dragon Ball used to do, and is trying to get back to, because when it stopped doing that, it was bland as hell.

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      I don't find Dragon Ball adhering to the rules it has set up to be inherently boring. It's all about presentation. 

      Well that's obviously on you then, but if everything is "A is always stronger than B but weaker than C" then it means that any possible combination of A, B and C is going to end the exact same way. It's completely predictable and boring. Having unique powersets or straight-up changing how things work is the only way to make that into a more engaging encounter. Z did this by just shoving Gohan up the scale via old men and rage boosts, Super does some of that but occasionally just skips the explanation because it's stuck in a series where the only meaningful way to show someone is stronger is that they win, and not because they're actually any more clever or nuanced in the way they handle a battle.

    8. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      "It was always shitty, lol."

      That's the typical response of a Super fan, yup. It's not that Super is shitty, it's that everything was always shitty. You don't do yourself, or the series your defending any favors by conceding that this franchise was always poorly written. 

      Except it hasn't been broken from the start. You keep saying that without providing reasons for that assertion. It made sense, it was consistent. If you're trying to assert that bloat made it a total mess, I can't even agree with that because we still understood where characters stood in relation to one another. Super can't even give us that much. If it did, I'd be much more forgiving, even if we did still get shit like Super Saiyan Fury.

      Trying to get back to its roots? I must have missed the part where Goku and Vegeta are pretty much the only contributing players. Even in a tournament setting, the lesser characters only get the fodder. What's more, it was still mostly about power. Some strategy was there, but power won the day, and well, teamwork. 

      No, it's on you that you don't like how the original series was handled. A series shouldn't change how it works to appease people who didn't like it in the first place. That's backwards, doc. 

      Anyway, I'm done. If you wanna make one last response, be my guest, but I was just trying to provide a quick laugh, not start a debate about the merits of power scaling. 

    9. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

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      "It was always shitty, lol."

      That's the typical response of a Super fan, yup. It's not that Super is shitty, it's that everything was always shitty. You don't do yourself, or the series your defending any favors by conceding that this franchise was always poorly written. 

      Besides the total ad-hominem at play here, the simple fact is that almost every problem Super has is a continuation of problems started by the original series. You know when people tell you this it's not because "man look at all these IDIOTS who like something I don't", it's because it's actually a valid statement. There's no reason to single Super out in the sea of poor choices this franchise has made. 

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      Except it hasn't been broken from the start. You keep saying that without providing reasons for that assertion. It made sense, it was consistent.

       It didn't, actually. There were plenty of massive plot devices and rewrites just to keep *some* characters on the same level, and even then it didn't always work.

      Better argument, "consistency" doesn't mean shit when things suck as hard as this. I cannot give a fuck if things are consistent when what's being changed actually makes things more entertaining. When your setting is toxic to the point that you can predict the outcome of every battle and only the characters the writer allows to get meaningless boosts in power, you change your setting. It doesn't matter if it's consistent, it's better. You wouldn't berate Sonic 2 and 3 for not having the spike bug.

      Z was a frustrating bore-fest in it's later arcs for how useless the cast and characters I grew to love were. While you're busy jerking off the "Super only has Goku and Vegeta do anything" rhetoric, Goku and Vegeta were the literal only people that actually ended up damaging Buu, and only in the last 10 chapters for that matter. Everything every other fighter did could be irrelevant, relegated to time-killing filler. Mister Satan had more of an influence than Gotenks or Gohan.

      Akira Toriyama is a bad writer. This is known, most people (myself included) can look past it because his series and characters are fun, nothing Super does wrong is specific to it (okay, the Whis/Beerus stuff I'll give you, but still), simply a further result of the same problems that have been eating away at the series for decadees.

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      If you're trying to assert that bloat made it a total mess, I can't even agree with that because we still understood where characters stood in relation to one another. Super can't even give us that much.

      Again, that's not where the issue lies. It doesn't matter because they never should have been using this straight vertical method of character strength in the first place. It has little to do with Super, because by your own logic, all Super would need to do to "fix" a character being stronger than they should is spend five minutes on some bullshit never-before-seen plot device to power up the characters by an arbitrary meaningless number and then the scale just "works". It's completely asinine. The only solution to the issue is revising how the scale itself works. Better argument: someone suddenly being way more powerful than expected is a twist this series has pulled constantly and consistently for thirty years. A better argument is that, again, "understanding where characters stand in relation to one another" is the essence of making things too predictable. I don't want a series where I know the beats of every character's role in every fight before they happen. I want to see Krillin and Piccolo do stuff again, I want to see more technique-based fighting like Roshi showed off in the ToP, it's good for Dragon Ball because it isn't repetitive angry-faced number battles.

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      Trying to get back to its roots? I must have missed the part where Goku and Vegeta are pretty much the only contributing players. Even in a tournament setting, the lesser characters only get the fodder. What's more, it was still mostly about power. Some strategy was there, but power won the day, and well, teamwork. 

      That's why I said "trying", even if this statement is full of brash generalization and rhetoric anyway.

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      No, it's on you that you don't like how the original series was handled. A series shouldn't change how it works to appease people who didn't like it in the first place. That's backwards, doc. 

      "It's on you that you don't like how Super is handled. A series shouldn't change how it works to appease people who didn't like it in the first place."

      Hey big question, why do you think Dragon Ball moved to being less about gags and more about martial arts and battles? Man, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with how much more popular it suddenly got, and I definitely think all those new fans were just hearing about it for the first time, reeeeeaaaallllyyyy.

      I  can't believe you're actually criticizing a series' writing while simulatneously telling me to stop not settling for shitty writing.

    10. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Welp, you've had your say. I'm going to continue my day. 

    11. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      Great, I hope you learn to think a little harder about whether the rules you want for a series are actually in the interest of making something good.

    12. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Man, I really struck a nerve, didn't I? I'm fine with how it's structured. If it bothers you, all I can say is go watch something else. 

    13. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      He said, continuing to watch and complain about Super.

    14. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Well, that probably won't continue to be fair. No point in consuming something I don't like, and know won't improve. 

    15. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      You've had 130 episodes and a movie to jump ship.

    16. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      *131, and believe me, I was contemplating jumping ship well before it finished. By the end of the Future Trunks arc, I was already considering it. I figured I'd just ride the Tournament of Power out, given it was the final arc.

  12. I really dislike Funimation's tendency to create English versions of insert songs for the series proper. 

    1. Ferno

      Ferno

      i like it and i miss when they did openings and endings too

      made it all feel like a complete english package

    2. Fletch

      Fletch

      They don't even do that anymore, do they? I thought it died with DBZ Kai.

    3. Ferno

      Ferno

      pretty much, DBZ Kai and One Piece were the last ones I knew about atleast.

    4. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      Nah, if anything I wish they would do that more. 

    5. Ferno

      Ferno

      There's just something amazing about hearing an already great theme sung in your own language, imo. (though it has to be done well of course, etc.)

    6. 8ther

      8ther

      In two weeks we’ll know if they still dub insert songs as there’s a DBS episode(the Dr Slump crossover) airing on Toonami that has an insert song in it

    7. Fletch

      Fletch

      I won't lie, I really loved the One Piece OPs in English and the EDs. I don't trust people that don't think "We Are" was good in English. (/troll - joking, kinda)

      I know in the past Funimation did other anime like Case Closed (Detective Conan) and that had good English OPs/EDs... But yeah, I liked their efforts but don't feel it to be a giant loss that they no longer dub OPs/EDs anymore. 

       

    8. Ferno

      Ferno

      fuk it, while we gushin' an all I like these too:

       

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Good English versions exist, but I'm a bit of a purist, especially when bad English versions can and do exist. 

    10. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      God dang it Ferno, now I want to listen to Yu Yu's opening again D : <

    11. Fletch

      Fletch

      Legit had me shook earlier when he dropped Yu Yu dubbed music. 

       

    12. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      I feel like the child in me reawakens whenever I hear that song, god bless your sweet heart fletch ;)

      also I guess since case closed was mentioned

      God I miss stuff like this so much.

      Bonus (even though its not anime lol)

       

       

    13. Ferno

      Ferno

      Hearing the case closed/ detective conan stuff brings me back to like summer 2005 as a kid when I'd be up until 6am watching Adult Swim. very nostalgic.

      also wow this is the FIRST time I've heard the opening and endings in full, as adult swim always cut them very short.

      I also remember this creepy thing right after, before CN would go live again

       

    14. Fletch

      Fletch

      LORDY. I still love Case Closed first ending song, especially in English. So nostalgic to listen to it (I need to catch up in the manga, I'm like on chapter 902 or something).

      YOOOOOOOO. I REMEMBER THAT BUMP. MAN, ADULT SWIM HAD SOME CRAZY GOOD (and creepy/weird like that) BUMPS BACK THEN. The newer bumps for Toonami are good, but stuff for Adult Swim nowadays are kinda eh? 

      2005 era probably had the best bumps tbh. 

       

      I'm so sorry that we hijacked your thread @ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I swear this wasn't supposed to happen.

  13. Wait, it's been confirmed that Eevee can't evolve in Lets Go? What the fuck is the point, lol?

    1. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      same reason pikachu couldn't evolve in yellow

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Eevee's entire point is to evolve.

    3. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      most pokemon's entire point is to evolve

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Not really. Most Pokemon do evolve, but that's not the point of their existence. Eevee isn't called the Evolution Pokemon for nothing. 

      https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/133.shtml

    5. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      what's the point of a caterpie? what's the point of a pidgey? it's to get you a butterfree and a pidgeot.

      the eevee in let's go can't be evolved for the same reason pikachu can't; because it's supposed to be a cute mascot 'mon and not a top-tier fighter. it's as simple as that.

    6. NegaMetallix

      NegaMetallix

      Apparently you should be able catch wild Pikachu and Eevee in the game, which can evolve.

      ...Buuut since the game's restricted to just Kanto Pokémon (and some Alolan forms) wild Eevee can presumably only evolve into it's original 3 evolutions.

    7. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Most Eeveelutions aren't top tier fighters, especially now lol. Vapereon is the only viable one of the original 3. 

      Yes yes, Caterpie and Pidgey are stepping stones, but Eevee is different. What makes Eevee the Evolution Pokemon is that it has so many different forms. To remove that possibility of evolution is to make Eevee's existence pointless. Pikachu not being able to evolve makes sense because Yellow was emulating the anime. With Eevee, you're just removing it's entire shtick, making it an unappealing choice. 

    8. TCB

      TCB

      ...ill just catch one in the wild and evolve that no biggie to me. I already got over that 

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Assuming you can. It'll probably just be given to you in Celadon like before, but likely only in Pikachu version because you couldn't catch wild Pikachus in Yellow version. I'd also want to use Jolteon, and something tells me you can't replace Pikachu in your party.

    10. DanJ86

      DanJ86

      The game can't change it's name... *shrug*

    11. Radiant Hero Ike

      Radiant Hero Ike

      It's already been confirmed that you can catch other Pikachu and Eevee in the wild and evolve those. Seeing as how your Pikachu/Eevee is basically part of the story, ride around on your shoulder or in your backpack, and is customizable, I can see why they can't evolve.

    12. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Can you put in the box? I have no interest in using Pikachu or Eevee.

    13. Failinhearts

      Failinhearts

      Because "Pokemon Let's Go! Eevee But Eventually Flareon, Vaporeon or Jolteon" doesn't have that ring to it.

    14. Thigolf

      Thigolf

      I just realized they just gave Eevee an exclusive, cool move last Gen to entice you to not evolve it.  Y'know, like Pikachu. Coincidence?

  14. Did you know? Weavile is cool.

    1. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      unfortunately, your skills as a song and dance man aren't 

    2. Teoskaven

      Teoskaven

      It doesn't have a Mega Evolution, so no.

    3. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Yeah, but I have blue hair.

      9f55077fba601f268eaf094ea0da3095426548cc

    4. Ryannumber1Santa
    5. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      But mine is spiky and glowy, so mine is better :P

    6. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      WELL MAYBE IF YOU'D TRAIN ME WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS ISSUE

    7. Teoskaven

      Teoskaven

      Kids these days thinking colored hair make them special...

       

       

    8. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I'll train you in episode 54!

    9. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      YOU SAID THAT IN THE ANDROID SAGA, AND THAT TURNED INTO YOU TELLING ME TO SCREW OFF >;U

    10. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      But this is for real tho

       

    11. Ryannumber1Santa
    12. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      29_13.jpg

      Oh you men, clearly blue hair looks on ladies only.

    13. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      TrunksGTyell.jpg

      Moth-

      I mean Bulma!?

  15. Daaaaaaaaaaaaayumn, Gohan, that was pretty rad.

     

    1. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Now why doesn't he fight more often? 

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Cuz he doesn't like to. He'll be fighting in the next arc tho.

    3. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      WHERE THE FUCK WAS THIS GOHAN IN RESURRECTION F

    4. Mando-Whirl-Wind

      Mando-Whirl-Wind

      I have to say the fights in the shows are pretty cool... if the games are anything like that I might be interested. Love over the top crazy games as distractions from time to time

    5. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @Ryannumber1gamer Dunno what you're talking about, he did exactly the same as he did in RoF here. Goku is not in Godmode, that's SSJ1, so they're on the same level, heck, in RoF everyone who wasn't Freeza had no chance against Gohan.

    6. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      Except Frieza still managed to kick his ass anyway, and said battle wasn't even that long. Even here, the battle is on a grander scale and such. 

      Then again, I'm generally happy just to see normal SSJ because I'm honestly fucking sick of Super Saiyan Blue.

    7. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      Again, Freeza was matching SSJB, the strongest form at the moment, Gohan was no match for him even if he could go Mystic. Here, Goku is clearly holding back.

      Also to be fair, I prefer SSJB to everyone holding back on serious fights like they did in GT.

    8. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      My problem with SSJB at this point is I guess it kind of just feels lazy to me? I mean it sort of just looks like SSJ with blue hair, and it seems to just be the be-all solution. Even Rose, which was technically Pink SSJ had shit like Vegito's spirit sword and such.

      Also, it doesn't help that I really loved SSG's design because while it retained Goku's normal design, it was leaner, and more subtle with the design choices.

    9. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      Eh dunno, I like SSJB because it is literally SSJ but combined with God Ki, making so SSJ is not only once again relevant, but also the strongest powerup they can aim for.

    10. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      @Mando-Whirl-Wind

      Xenoverse 2 does a really good job on having the fights similar to the anime.

      I would recommend you to buy it if you like the anime.

    11. Mando-Whirl-Wind

      Mando-Whirl-Wind

      @Goku Black (Diamond), never watched it other than some of the abridged Broly the other week waiting for the switch direct the other week, and this fight. Is it a fun fighting game?

    12. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      It's really fun IMO. 

      But I suggest you watch at least some fights on Youtube or watch the new Dragon Ball Super on Crunchyroll or Daisuki  before playing, since you won't understand that much of the story.

      Here is some gameplay so you can get an idea:

       

    13. Strickerx5
  16. What Mario and Sonic games should I compare next?

    1. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      Galaxy and Unleashed?

       

      I kinda want there  to be a Galaxy 1 & 2 vs. Adventures 1 & 2, even if there's a bigger year gap. 

    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Wouldn't Galaxy and Colors make more sense? 

    3. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      ... Sure, you can do that instead.

    4. Ferno

      Ferno

      Colors and Galaxy 2 maybe. both games did away with hubs and a grander presentation, things that Unleashed and Galaxy 1 had

    5. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      odyssey and forces

    6. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I'll give a list, you vote.

      • Super Mario Bros 2 (USA) vs Sonic CD
      • Super Mario Bros 3 vs Sonic 2
      • Super Mario Sunshine vs Sonic Heroes
      • Super Mario Galaxy vs Unleashed
      • Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs Colors

      @Polkadi~♪ That's not even a contest, lol.

    7. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      sonic spinball to mario pinball land

    8. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      you say that like a lil quitter (ง'̀-'́)ง

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Odyssey would win within the first 5 minutes. 

    10. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      Super Mario 3D World VS Sonic Lost World

    11. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      One of the Mario RPG's vs Sonic Chronicles...who am I kidding here...

    12. PaulyBFromDa303
    13. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Okay, for real though, based on the list I provided, which comparison should I do?

  17. I still prefer Sonic Adventure over Super Mario 64. Don't @ me.

    1. Polkadi~☆
    2. ThePrinceOfSaiyans
    3. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      SA1 Tails is still the most fun character Sonic has ever had in 3D.

    4. Panda Claus
    5. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      ....It aged better then 64

       

       

       

       

      *runs*

    6. Jango

      Jango

      64 is incridibly overrated. But comparing it isn't quite fair, Sonic Adventure was on a 128bits console.

    7. GentlemanX

      GentlemanX

      I love both, but Super Mario 64 was just the more important game to me personally.

    8. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      On one hand, Mario 64 revolutionized the genre in so many ways but however its dated and hasn't really aged well.

      However SA1 hasn't aged as good, if not worse than Mario 64 since they still act like from the 90s. I'm not a big fan of it because of that.

      So the proper answer?

      ....Banjo Kazooie

    9. GentlemanX

      GentlemanX

      @Crow the BOOLET

      This is the correct answer, yes.

    10. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      Banjo-Kazooie is a game that is so good that the developers have no idea how they made it so good.

      Not literally, of course, but every similar game and sequel after by them do not match the magic.

    11. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Sonic Adventure vs Banjo Kazooie is a toss up for me. Sonic Adventure was the first video game I beat, so I have strong nostalgic fondness for Sonic Adventure. 

    12. Waveshocker Sigma

      Waveshocker Sigma

      SA1 was fun and great. I still love it.

      SM64 was alright and is still a fun time.

      Banjo-Kazooie is boring as fuck and I could never bring myself to play all the way through it. The characters are super charming, though.

  18. Favorite Pokemon memory?

    1. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I have several.

      • Catching Groudon for the first time. It was my first legendary Pokemon.
      • A shiny Mudkip popping out of the Pokeball in Ruby version.
      • Going to see the first movie with my dad and brother.
      • Purifying Shadow Lugia.
    2. Thigolf

      Thigolf

      The Moment in Emerald when Groudon and Kyogre fight and the weather constantly Switches between really heavy rainfall and crushing heat.

      Having not played practically any RPGs or heavily Story based games, I never felt more urgency in any game before that Point. I was legitimately upset and worried about Hoenn. The fact that I had a huge Imagination as a kid and could very lively imagine how awfull the constant and extreme weather changing would feel also helped a great deal.

      And then, when I ran up to the Tower and got Rayquaza and saved the Region...goddamn, it felt SO satisfying.

    3. TCB

      TCB

      I have many

      All the gen 1 games were straight up given to me, Mew was in Blue and it was already completed (guess how Mew was captured). But since I never knew what Mew was or how special it was and I really wanted to play the game myself from the beginning....

       

      yeah hahahaha ;_;

    4. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      * Getting Charizard in my very first TCG booster pack from the original TCG cards.

      * getting Pokemon Red after school

      * getting a ton of toys from KFC promotion and Burger King

    5. Sonictrainer

      Sonictrainer

      Finding and Catching Shiny Pokemon for the first time in X and Alpha Sapphire.

      I haven't found any Wild Shiny Pokemon since that Qwilfish in Silver Version...and I was out of Pokeballs...

    6. Crow the BOOLET

      Crow the BOOLET

      EITHAH FURST STARTING UP POKEMAN RED 4 DA FURST TIEM, GITTING A COMPETITIVE WORTHY HONCHKROW, OR SWEEPING DA SHEET OUT DIANTHA WIFF AEGISLASH ONLY

    7. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Finding a Game Boy Color and Pokémon Blue under the Christmas tree... like a week early. Boy did I get in trouble.

    8. TCB

      TCB

      Also

      • Geting all silver prints from Emerald Battle Frontier
      • Completing the Gen 3 (Emerald) and Alpha Sapphire National Pokedexes
      • everything Thigolf said
      • Facing Red in Silver, complete WTF moment for me
      • Hell going back to KANTO in Silver was amazingly mindblowing
    9. Diz

      Diz

      Pokemon Gold when catching Ho-Oh or when cruising through the Elite Four with said pokemon.

      At the time I thought it said elite floor, and I only understood half the game in terms of language.

    10. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Oh, and I should also add getting Silver on launch day. I'm pretty sure I hadn't shut up about it like AT ALL and my dad had gone that morning to get it. Good times.

    11. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Yeah, saving Hoenn from Groudon's and Kyogre's rampage with the help of Rayquaza and than catching Rayquaza is also one of my favorite moments. 

    12. Ripe

      Ripe

      My Pokemon memories are limited to the cartoon, cards and three first movies about 15 years ago. But I guess that watching the show was becauae I don't really recall much.

    1. Nix

      Nix

      who's ready for Stars to be 3DS only

    2. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      I didn't even finish Moon yet.

      Better beat the Eite Four today.

    3. Eevee of the Everstone

      Eevee of the Everstone

      More hyped for this then I am for Mania.

    4. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      It was confirmed to be 8 minutes long.

    5. Eevee of the Everstone

      Eevee of the Everstone

      Yeah, Most likely an annoucement trailer with more news at E3.

    6. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Well, time to beat the Moon Story.

      Why are the Elite Four so hard?

    7. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      Well shit, looks like Motobugs gotta stream

    8. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Where's the Spongebob meme, Ryan?!

    9. Ryannumber1Santa
    10. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      I meant the one with you and Motobug being sad while everyone is hype.

    11. Ryannumber1Santa

      Ryannumber1Santa

      I need variety 

    12. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      Fair enough.

  19. So how many people actually give a shit about Chao Gardens? I feel like people who actually like Sonic games probably don't care that much. 

    1. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      I keep forgetting they exist.

    2. Wraith

      Wraith

      I don't care whether those specifically come back or not but this new batch of Sonic games could use some more side content

    3. Ferno

      Ferno

      seems to be something that only casual fans who played "sonic adventure battle 2" on the gamecube talk about these days

    4. Dee Dude

      Dee Dude

      I love them to death but people gotta let them go.

    5. Tails spin

      Tails spin

      It was something extra for me when I rented  the adventure games but didn't really care for . And since it hasn't returned I don't care for it.

    6. MegasonicZX

      MegasonicZX

      I do but I wouldn't be too upset if they never came back, the one in adventure 2 is fun enough on its own that I don't mind never getting another one.

    7. Ferno

      Ferno

      I'm surprised Sonic Team's never tried to make them separate Nintendogs/ Tamagochi esque games for eShop/ mobile though. that's money right there.

    8. Blacklightning

      Blacklightning

      Chao gardens? No. But Chao themselves are appealing enough that I wish there was a proper way to use them. Even if just as background fodder like most of the Toads are in Mario games.

    9. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      @Ferno That's what I was thinking. A Chao Garden app would probably print money with those nostalgic for it if they marketed right...though knowing them they'll probably pull a Runners and make it exorbitantly expensive to do anything.

    10. Emperor Robrainiac

      Emperor Robrainiac

      Judging from how morbid the abuse system is, (Crying, trembling in terror, running away, and giving them headaches) I got a feeling a few of the programmers didn't really care much for the chao either.

      Me, I have a love hate relationship with them. They're cute, I like seeing what they can evolve into, and I find that they have a bit of charm to them.

      but at the same time, they can be too cute (Even for me), a pain in the ass to train, and I hate their random tantrums they'll throw. I often find myself attacking them when they do that.

    11. Sega DogTagz

      Sega DogTagz

      Chao were a nice distraction, and gave you something to do with all the rings and stuff you could collect during the stages. Like a bottomless pit pushing you to keep collecting, knowing full well there was never an "end" to it.

      That never hurts, particularly so for a series that often lacks content.

    12. Milo

      Milo

      I'll actually admit I spent a lot of time with them when I played SA2:B. I actually recall having at least 10+ Chao at one point.

      I still wouldn't want it to be added to a main series Sonic game again though (especially with how SA2 ended up tying them to 100% Completion). Sega should had capitalized on their popularity and made a mobile spinoff with them years ago (though apparently Iizuka only very recently learned they have a devoted following....so there you go.)

  20. Ya'll are nuts if you think Shadow is actually getting into the game, lol.

    1. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      He was the most modded character in Brawl, and overall very requested, he has a chance to be Echo, or even Metal Sonic.

    2. Adamabba
    3. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      people said the same thing about ridely smh

    4. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment. 

    5. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      nintendo is always a disappointment to me

      par for the course man

    6. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      Dude, check everyone's wishlist for echo fighter on Twitter or whatever. 90% of them have Shadow.

    7. Adamabba

      Adamabba

      we're not nuts for thinking he has a chance tho

    8. Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      The OP here has the potential to become as outdated as the "Ridley Is Too Big" meme. iniswing3gd7.gif

      @ThePrinceOfSaiyans Feeling confident enough for wager?

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      No, not particularly. I just like to keep my expectations low for these sorts of things.

    10. Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      Well fine then, but don't force it on others by calling  them nuts. Kinda comes off as a bit jerkish, y'know? Just a "I personally highly doubt" will do.

    11. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      You're taking things too seriously if you think I was being disparaging, lol. 

    12. Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      Nina Cortex Jovahexeon

      ? I wouldn't call giving helpful advice (especially given how easily it is to misinterpret internet text without the tones to back 'em up) overreacting. Eh, you do you.

  21. I'm not pleased with the fact that I had to breed my team to make a better, EV trained team just so I can beat level 20 of the battle Tree...

    1. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Yeah it's something I don't like about the post game areas in the series. Why do we have to do that crap in order to win? 

    2. TCB

      TCB

      Wait so is the Battle Tree format akin to the Battle Maison? You can battle one trainer after another (w/ healing after each battle, saving and quiting included) until you get to 20 trainers then face these 'Battle Bosses'? 

    3. ThePrinceOfSaiyans
    4. TCB

      TCB

      Oh ok. I was just a bit confused by the 'level 20' thing. 

      I might not even attempt the Tree seriously until the Bank update anyway.

    5. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      I was going to do that until I learned of the reward you get for beating the first Battle Legend.

    6. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Well if you want to get the Mega Stones for the canto starters you're going to need to beat Red at level 21

    7. TCB

      TCB

      That's another thing; how do you even get the Mega Stones that aren't tied behind things like that. 

    8. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      You buy them with battle points earned from the Battle Tree of Battle Royal.

    9. TCB

      TCB

      ...Oh.

      What bullsh*t. Hahahaha.

    10. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Gamefreak didn't do a very good job making competitive play more accessible, that's for sure. Hyper training is nice and all, even though you have to get to level 100 to use it, but practically every convenience available in Gen 6 is gone.   

    11. TCB

      TCB

      Well looking it up now it's small list locked behind that system; for the others I hope they can be found in the overworld through special means (like via the Altar of the Sunne/Moone mechanic or something)

      Game Freak doing what Game Freak does best.

  22. I often wonder if Arin is an intentional fuck up or just plain incompetent. 

    1. Nepenthe

      Nepenthe

      Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity.

    2. D.H

      D.H

      What did he do now?

    3. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Oh, nothing noteworthy. He's simply having trouble with Blaze in Sonic and the Black Knight, and getting unreasonably angry about it :lol:.

    4. D.H
    5. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      Or maybe Arin just isn't that good in games, playing all that Mega Man X can do that to ya.

    6. Speeps

      Speeps

      > Arin

      > Sonic games

    7. FriendBot

      FriendBot

      He would probably struggle playing through the Special Stages of 3D Blast... the GENESIS VERSION!

    8. Briraka

      Briraka

      To be fair though, Sonic and the Black Knight is not a very good game. :v

    9. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      It's not a very good game, but it's not a very hard one either.

    10. Ratcicle King

      Ratcicle King

      @Kabalni Hey, I'll let you know that I play Mega Man X religiously. Now I'm not an amazing player, but I can at least brag that I am in a superior level to Arin in both gaming skills and honestly, opinions.

      I also don't blame the game constantly for my own failure.

    11. Gregzilla

      Gregzilla

      I don't think sucking at Sonic and the Black Knight is much of a crime

  23. "The prequels feel like a video game."

    What the fuck does that even mean? How is that a criticism?

    1. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Perhaps this would be better with context.

    2. Diogenes

      Diogenes

      well, as we all know, video games are bad

    3. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      There really isn't any context to that argument, Deji. People just throw out there like it's supposed to mean something. 

    4. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      I cannot pretend to understand context here, but if a movie just feels like I'm watching someone play a video game, that's probably bad.

    5. ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      ThePrinceOfSaiyans

      Well, the Star Wars prequels don't feel like that at all, so again, I'm not sure what that criticism is supposed to mean. The best I can imagine is that the Force abilities feel like video game conventions, which is inane if you ask me. Force augmentation, Force lightning, Force pull, Force push, it's all stuff we've seen in the originals, only employed more often, which makes sense given these are Jedi at the height of their power.

    6. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Oh we're talking about Star Wars. What an odd statement to make...

    7. Chili Dawg

      Chili Dawg

      Hmmm yeah not really sure how that applies to any star wars

    8. Sean

      Sean

      flashy, gaudy-looking special effects juxtaposed with boring cutscenes of characters standing around doing nothing but talking? yeah I can see how it would apply.

    9. Wraith

      Wraith

      video games generally don't have great stories and they're mostly there to excuse flashy sequences and fights

      So...the prequels

    10. Rusty Spy

      Rusty Spy

      Because it looks like a PS2 cutscene

    11. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      Look me straight in the avatar's eyes and tell me that AOTC's Droid Factory scene is a beautifully potrayed location and in no way resembles something you'd fine in a NES obstacle course.

  24. Not a fan of how Ash looks in this one

     

    1. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      wait woah

       

      this looks kinda fun, actually

    2. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      I'm more opened to it. Although I'm curious as to which starter Ash will chose

    3. Boomer

      Boomer

      Yeah, I'm really not a fan of this either tbh.

      Also his lightning marks now look like a moustache, cannot unsee...

    4. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      The trailer itself looks fun, but I can't say I like Ash's redesign. It's just very weird looking, especially since other characters don't really reflect this direction (and like Boomer said, his face markings don't look right, at all). What I've seen of the newer characters looks on par with what's been in XYZ.

    5. Celestia

      Celestia

      Yeah, Ash's look is the only thing that's bothering me. I think I'll get used to it, but I can see why it's throwing people off so much.

    6. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Wow, I'm actually liking this style in motion (haven't seen anything but images). Especially how much of a western style some of the animation has.

    7. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      I've started to look at each season of Pokemon as less of a continuous saga and moreso as a separate anthology where the previous canon doesn't really matter. 

      ie, you could watch XY from start to finish without having seen Indigo League or anything after it or Sun/Moon and still get a good chunk of story. 

      Not good for those who stuck through it since the beginning, unfortunately. 

    8. Boomer

      Boomer

      Anyway this bit made me laugh...

      UercVlr.jpg

    9. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      @Indigo Rush That's pretty much how I've been treating it. The original series-DP were pretty connected if you think about it but once BW started it was yeah screw that

    10. Celestia

      Celestia

      Honestly that's how I see it too, it's just nice when they do have continuity nods. It's weird how even Best Wishes referenced Ash's adventures in past regions but (from what I hear) the Kalos saga doesn't. Like, ever. That's just weird.

      Also there was a huge missed opportunity to have Ash assemble a team (for a League battle, I guess) that has one Pokemon from each generation. That would've been really cool.

    11. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      That's pretty much what the kalos league final should of been  Ash would of had a team of his strongest Pokemon. Kanto: Pikachu, Johto: Charizard, Hoenn: Sceptile, Sinnoh: Infernape, Unova: Krookodile, Kalos: Greninja

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