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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Miragnarok in Should there be a new "Sonic Bible" and reboot based on it?   
    I'm inclined to agree that a reboot would do nothing for this series. They just need to move a way from the Solo-Sonic, comedy focused schlock we've been getting since 2010. I much prefer the over the top nonsense we got in the Adventures, '06, and Unleashed. There's just something inherently amusing about a 3 foot tall anthropomorphic hedgehog with an attitude beating up gods with the help of some magical gem stones. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Jack in Space in Should there be a new "Sonic Bible" and reboot based on it?   
    I'm inclined to agree that a reboot would do nothing for this series. They just need to move a way from the Solo-Sonic, comedy focused schlock we've been getting since 2010. I much prefer the over the top nonsense we got in the Adventures, '06, and Unleashed. There's just something inherently amusing about a 3 foot tall anthropomorphic hedgehog with an attitude beating up gods with the help of some magical gem stones. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Heckboy in Should there be a new "Sonic Bible" and reboot based on it?   
    Don't see a need. They've done plenty of soft reboots that are, for all intents and purposes, full reboots since Sonic barely has continuity anyway. It's all superfluous, goofy bullshit that gets disregarded almost immediately. It's not some grand coherent mythology and it doesn't need to be.
    I agree they could use some loose guidelines to prevent too many contradictions, and some stronger characterization, but that's about all that's needed. I think after nearly 30 years of this franchise's existence, the messiness and stupidity is part of its shlocky charm. Sonic is never, at this point, going to be "redeemed" in the way people want it to be, so they might as well embrace the stupidity. Not in an excessively self-deprecating way like the social media, but in the way, say, Archie Sonic did under Ian Flynn (I know it might seem weird for me to say that since I'm not a huge fan of the comics, but I do think that's one thing it got right. It had shit like the Black Arms and Wisps co-existing and had fun with it).
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Heckboy in Ghostbusters (3): (Sequel to 1984 universe) *Teaser Trailer!   
    "let's reboot/revive a franchise carried entirely by specific actors. again"

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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Heckboy in Ghostbusters (3): (Sequel to 1984 universe) *Teaser Trailer!   
    Nobody sane liked Ghostbusters 2016 and no amount of whining about le cheeto drumpf is going to get them to make a sequel to that shit.
    That said, I'm fucking tired of reboots and rehashes. Fucking stop already. The original movie was great because of a great cast who are now old or dead. Leave it alone now.
     
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from DiamondX in Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Early 2020)   
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from 8ther in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    It's been revealed that episodes of Dragon Ball Super are in the works.
    http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/01/23/natpe-licensing-convention-spotlight-announces-additional-dragon-ball-super-episodes-underway/
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from DiamondX in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    It's been revealed that episodes of Dragon Ball Super are in the works.
    http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/01/23/natpe-licensing-convention-spotlight-announces-additional-dragon-ball-super-episodes-underway/
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Kuzu in Has the "Sonic's sh*tty friends" mentality been a detriment to this series?   
    Why...can't we just do both? Are these things really mutually exclusive?
    Topic question though: I'd say it's more of a detriment to the narrative than the gameplay, but I suppose those two go hand-in-hand. I definitely would prefer my games to play well than wondering if my favorite character will show up, but the lack of them really has made the series extremely dry and boring. Which wouldn't be a bad thing if there was something else to flesh out the games, but there usually isn't. Removing the characters didn't really solve a problem, it just swept it under the rug and hoped that people would forget about it. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Kuzu in Has the "Sonic's sh*tty friends" mentality been a detriment to this series?   
    To an extent. I'd say it affects the story more so than anything else. While Sonic's friends may have been a detriment to gameplay in the past, their inclusion into the story was generally fine. Knuckles's treasure hunting stages may not have been to the liking of certain players, but his character is likable and the history of his people is interesting. By shoving Knuckles into the background, we miss out on what he can add to the story. The same goes for all the other characters that aren't Sonic. There are ways to include the characters without them being a detriment to gameplay. The classics and Mania figured it out, so I'm not sure why Sonic Team can't just do that in 3D, and use the characters to tell an engaging story to boot.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Kuzu in Which character is the most unnecessary?   
    So aside from the main thing that makes them different, they're the same huh.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Writer's Blah in Sonic Characterization at its Best, Worst, and how to move forward.   
    His best incarnation is classic Sonic. I'd argue he appeals to a larger audience, given he isn't given the opportunity to spout cringy dialogue. His actions do the talking, and that's probably for the best.
    My favorite is his Sonic Adventure 2 incarnation. I like this Sonic the most because he's heroic, has attitude, and can speak without making me cringe. 
    The worst is how he's currently portrayed and has been portrayed since Colors. This incarnation of Sonic is pure cringe. That wink wink nudge nudge approach to dialogue is infuriating, and the actual jokes themselves never land. I can't think of a single funny line from not only Sonic, but the rest of the cast, which is a problem given comedy is the focus of this era of Sonic. If you're gonna try and be funny, actually be funny please. 
    Going forward, I'm not sure what the ideal approach would be. Sonic speaks now, and I'm sure getting rid of the voice acting is unlikely. I know I want the comedic approach to go away, and I'd like a more dramatic approach ala Sonic Adventure 2, but I also don't want it to devolve into Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic '06 levels of nonsense again. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from FFWF in Edgy Sonic games were better?   
    I could only get through about 13 minutes of that. 
    To answer the question, I'd say they have better stories, but they aren't better games, necessarily. I like Adventure and Adventure 2 more than the other "3D" Sonic games, but that's in large part due to nostalgia. No doubt nostalgia is throwing off my objectivity, at least in regard to Adventure 1 specifically. I think Adventure 2 still holds up relatively well, it's imply a matter of preference in regards to gameplay. I think most of the treasure hunting stages are fine, maybe 1 or 2 Tails stages are fine, and Eggman is generally fine. The problem with stories present in modern Sonic games is that there isn't much to sink your teeth into. Say what you will of the stories in games like Sonic '06, but they're more engaging than the stories present in Colors, Generations, and Lost World. This is an unfortunate situation where the baby was thrown out with the bath water. The stories weren't really the problem in the older Sonic games, though they could no doubt be improved. It was the games themselves that were the problem.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Legendary Emerald in Edgy Sonic games were better?   
    I could only get through about 13 minutes of that. 
    To answer the question, I'd say they have better stories, but they aren't better games, necessarily. I like Adventure and Adventure 2 more than the other "3D" Sonic games, but that's in large part due to nostalgia. No doubt nostalgia is throwing off my objectivity, at least in regard to Adventure 1 specifically. I think Adventure 2 still holds up relatively well, it's imply a matter of preference in regards to gameplay. I think most of the treasure hunting stages are fine, maybe 1 or 2 Tails stages are fine, and Eggman is generally fine. The problem with stories present in modern Sonic games is that there isn't much to sink your teeth into. Say what you will of the stories in games like Sonic '06, but they're more engaging than the stories present in Colors, Generations, and Lost World. This is an unfortunate situation where the baby was thrown out with the bath water. The stories weren't really the problem in the older Sonic games, though they could no doubt be improved. It was the games themselves that were the problem.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Miragnarok in Edgy Sonic games were better?   
    I could only get through about 13 minutes of that. 
    To answer the question, I'd say they have better stories, but they aren't better games, necessarily. I like Adventure and Adventure 2 more than the other "3D" Sonic games, but that's in large part due to nostalgia. No doubt nostalgia is throwing off my objectivity, at least in regard to Adventure 1 specifically. I think Adventure 2 still holds up relatively well, it's imply a matter of preference in regards to gameplay. I think most of the treasure hunting stages are fine, maybe 1 or 2 Tails stages are fine, and Eggman is generally fine. The problem with stories present in modern Sonic games is that there isn't much to sink your teeth into. Say what you will of the stories in games like Sonic '06, but they're more engaging than the stories present in Colors, Generations, and Lost World. This is an unfortunate situation where the baby was thrown out with the bath water. The stories weren't really the problem in the older Sonic games, though they could no doubt be improved. It was the games themselves that were the problem.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Osmium in Will 2019 be a good year for Sonic?   
    Well we're getting a movie that has a 100% chance of sending Sonic's reputation even further down into the shitcoated toilet for starters so I don't think it's going to be a terribly good year. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Kuzu in The Making of: Sonic Adventure (New Iizuka Interview)   
    Everyone says this about every game and yet, here we are lol. Boom was the 06, then Forces was the next 06. I guess every game is gonna be the next 06 huh.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Kuzu in The Making of: Sonic Adventure (New Iizuka Interview)   
    There's always opportunities for things to go wrong, things have been going wrong in this series for years. Things are STILL going wrong in this series for years. Sturgeon's Law and all that. Still think they should go for it. 
    An Adventure remake would be far more gutsy than anything they've done in recent years besides Lost World. But you wanna know the difference?  Sonic Adventure is something they've done before and have opportunity to correct certain things rather than experimenting with something they've never tried before and falling flat on their ass. It's a style they haven't touched since 2006, and it's the only style of gameplay that people in general enjoyed despite it's shortcomings out of almost every 3D game. 
    If you don't care and prefer something else, cool. But they've been trying other shit for two decades. TWO. And none of those attempts have come anywhere near to what they've tried with Adventure.  I'm really not seeing any reason for them for them not do it and the only rebuttal you've given is rooted in your own pessimism from the constant shortcomings from the series. 
     
    I'm not even saying it would be good. It could very well suck, and blow and all that. But there's no reason for them not to try. At least let them attempt to do it and fail rather than never try at all. Like you said, if it fails, then its just something we know was doomed from the start. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from FReaK in How would you fix Sonic's lore, gameplay, narrative, and characters?   
    Lore: Honestly, I'd try to keep things fairly simplistic. Sonic and Tails try to stop Eggman when he tries to industrialize things. Knuckles wouldn't be the guardian of the Master Emerald as that just makes it hard to incorporate Knuckles into stories that don't involve the Master Emerald. Honestly, I'd just make Knuckles a resident of the island who doesn't know anything about his history. As the games progress he learns more about the Echidnas, whom I would make responsible for the creation of the Master Emerald and Chaos Emeralds. For them, the "Chaos Force" would be a sort of god. The Chaos Emeralds would be created to harness the power of said god, but in reality, the Chaos Force is just a pool of limitless energy like it is in the main continuity. Wars held over the use the Emeralds eventually lead to the extinction of the Echidnas and Knuckles is a remnant. For Shadow, I'm not entirely sure what I'd do. Maybe I'd make him a clone like ShayMay suggested, but the problem with that is Metal Sonic sorta fulfills that role in a more thematically appropriate way.  I could just make Gerald Robotnik evil from the get go. He could be working on Shadow before he's stopped by the military. Shadow could be left in some underground portion of his lab the military didn't notice, and Eggman could stumble upon it and finish Shadow himself, unleashing it on Sonic. Shadow would be an experiment based on the mural we see during Sonic's confrontation with Knuckles from S3&K. Also, regarding Super forms, everyone has one, and they all have actual god damn color changes! Sonic is gold, Tails is a light blue, Knuckles is green, Amy is red, and Shadow is white.
    Gameplay: Just do what the classics did, but in 3D. If it is necessary to script certain things, do so, but try to shy away from scripting in general. The characters would play generally the same, but with their own quirks. Sonic would have the spin dash, drop dash, the homing attack, and shield abilities. Tails would have flight, a motor rev using his tails that would act as a spin dash, and maybe some gadgets given he's supposed to be genius. Knuckles could spin dash, climb, dig, glide, and punch. Amy would have her hammer, with which she could bash enemies, do a charged slam that destroys multiple enemies on the ground, and get extra air from using it on springs. Shadow would have the spin dash, homing attack, teleportation for extra height, and chaos spear. 
    Narrative: The narrative would depend on the game. Like I said above though, keep it relatively simple. 
    Characterization: I'd start by making everyone silent like they were in the classics. Don't get me wrong, I think Sonic can function with a voice cast. SA2 Sonic is probably my favorite version of Sonic, but there's simply less of a chance to screw up Sonic's characterization if he doesn't speak. Maybe that'd be a hard sell for kids, but I doubt it's a deal breaker. So, Sonic is cocky, Tails is intelligent but shy, Knuckles is naive and headstrong, Amy is a fanatic, and Shadow is a loner.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Unidus in What were your expectations when Iizuka was made head of Sonic team, and did he meet them?   
    The monster of the week formula is very specific. Eggman unleashes some new monster that either does his bidding or that he relies on, the monster eventually grows beyond Eggman's control, and Super Sonic has to show up and save the day. The Time Eater fulfills the Super Sonic requirement, but doesn't grow beyond Eggman's control. The Deadly Six grow beyond Eggman's control, but there's no Super Sonic final showdown, and they aren't even the big bad of the game. Eggman is, with a copy-paste boss battle from Sonic Colors. Infinite doesn't require some Super Sonic final showdown and he doesn't grow beyond his control. None of them really fall into that specific formula. Chaos does, Shadow/Biolizard do, Metal Sonic does, and Dark Gaia does. The only real exception to the rule during this era is Black Doom. Sonic '06 is a unique case as well, but only in the sense that Iblis and Mephiles didn't do his bidding, nor were they his underlings. He still sets off the events that eventually lead to the formation of Solaris.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from 8ther in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    Toriyama is notoriously forgetful. He forgot Lunch existed, he forgot No. 18 had blonde hair, etc. If you think Toriyama is beyond trampling over his previous work, you're just wrong. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from Zaysho in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    Plenty of the more invested fans have a lot to hate about Minus. I for one hate that it destroys the themes found in the Saiyan arc. It also portrays the Saiyans through a more kid friendly lens, and I hate that. The Saiyans were evil, full stop. Goku was the exception to the rule by pure happenstance. He was sent to Earth to destroy it, but through a twist of fate he becomes its savior. What's more, he was low class trash, but grew stronger and succeeded in spite the class based structure Saiyan society was built around. The Saiyan arc really added to Goku as a character, and now all of that is gone because Goku is not some low class trash sent to a backwater planet to do a trash job. No, he's the special love child of some better natured Saiyans who sent him to Earth for his own safety. It's bad, fanfic level bull shit.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from 8ther in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    Plenty of the more invested fans have a lot to hate about Minus. I for one hate that it destroys the themes found in the Saiyan arc. It also portrays the Saiyans through a more kid friendly lens, and I hate that. The Saiyans were evil, full stop. Goku was the exception to the rule by pure happenstance. He was sent to Earth to destroy it, but through a twist of fate he becomes its savior. What's more, he was low class trash, but grew stronger and succeeded in spite the class based structure Saiyan society was built around. The Saiyan arc really added to Goku as a character, and now all of that is gone because Goku is not some low class trash sent to a backwater planet to do a trash job. No, he's the special love child of some better natured Saiyans who sent him to Earth for his own safety. It's bad, fanfic level bull shit.
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans got a reaction from ShadowSJG in Sonic Characterization at its Best, Worst, and how to move forward.   
    His best incarnation is classic Sonic. I'd argue he appeals to a larger audience, given he isn't given the opportunity to spout cringy dialogue. His actions do the talking, and that's probably for the best.
    My favorite is his Sonic Adventure 2 incarnation. I like this Sonic the most because he's heroic, has attitude, and can speak without making me cringe. 
    The worst is how he's currently portrayed and has been portrayed since Colors. This incarnation of Sonic is pure cringe. That wink wink nudge nudge approach to dialogue is infuriating, and the actual jokes themselves never land. I can't think of a single funny line from not only Sonic, but the rest of the cast, which is a problem given comedy is the focus of this era of Sonic. If you're gonna try and be funny, actually be funny please. 
    Going forward, I'm not sure what the ideal approach would be. Sonic speaks now, and I'm sure getting rid of the voice acting is unlikely. I know I want the comedic approach to go away, and I'd like a more dramatic approach ala Sonic Adventure 2, but I also don't want it to devolve into Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic '06 levels of nonsense again. 
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    ThePrinceOfSaiyans reacted to Kuzu in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    You know,  I may as well not even see the movie at this point.
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