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I mean... they're not wrong in those first two paragraphs...

I mean, what if it was XB1X or PC exclusive? They're both capable of more than the PS4P...

LOL. Nintendo is Platinum's publisher. What did that guy expect to happen?

I'd be more surprised if it ended up on a non-Nintendo anything.

I don't really get console wars. Like I can get being annoyed that a cool game isn't on a console you own, but why clench your butthole in pure anger over it being on a different console, or whether it's graphics are slightly worse (but still overall great), or just because it's not purely part of some ultra hd 4k console alone...or something.

I think most of the blame lies with SEGA for this, honestly. They didn't want to do more with Bayonetta and Nintendo had to foot the bill for the sequels. I mean, I'm happy getting a cool exclusive for my current system of choice, underpowered it might be, but it does bite nothing beyond the first game can be re-released anywhere else.

I mean...I can kinda understand the frustration with nintendo, since they have to constantly buy back the licence when Bayo 2 didn't sell that well...

Platinum tho? Beats me!

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You should be mad at Sony, bro. They wasted the perfect chance to publish Bayonetta 2 when Platinum was searching for a partner.

Might as well post this too while I'm at it, it compliments to OP pretty nicely...

Ever since Bayo hit Nintendo there have been people like this and it always makes them look incredibly stupid since the reason for them putting these on Nintendo consoles exclusively is a good one. Really wish these people would do their research before getting up in arms over a non-issue (though he is right about one thing, these games would be capable of tons more on more powerful hardware).

The games would be capable of more, but I don't think anyone wants a repeat of Scalebound, right? Platinum and Nintendo have a good working relationship here, which isn't always the case. Bayonetta would have died in the ass if Nintendo didn't step in to save it.

 And honestly,  while not as powerful,  the most the hardware limitations really do for the Switch in effecting quality are graphics,  which can already look keen enough. 

So long as the gameplay is fun and entertaining,  which is perfectly capable for the Switch,  I don't see much reason to lament a game that likely won't even look bad graphic wise. 

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I don't see much reason to lament a game that likely won't even look bad graphic wise. 

@JovahexeonXMAS Tron BonneWell here's the thing, when the initial Bayonetta was released (2009) it was met with a lot of praise for its graphics. Fast forward to 2's release and the reception was more of a "meh" in that department. 2 was basically re-using 1's graphical engine straight down to its 720p resolution and even then the game wasn't able to keep a solid 60fps to save its life.

Now lets look at the Switch which isn't that much more powerful than the Wii U. I'll save my judgement until I actually see the game but I feel like 3's going to be reusing 2's engine which is already a clone of 1's. Assuming the game comes out in 2019, that would mean that the game is running on a 10 year old graphical engine complete with low resolution textures, limited gameplay environments, and not much in the way of effect details. All this being something a game like this greatly benefits from.  The best I can imagine them doing is reaching that solid 60fps with maybe an upscaled resolution from 900p or something.

Like, I know not many people around here care about graphics to the extent that I do but when I put all this into perspective... yeah, Bayonetta 3 being exclusive to the Switch does sadden me a bit. Trust me, I fully understand that it was either this or nothing and I applaud Nintendo for picking up the pieces when no one else would but that still doesn't change my feelings on it.

Though, I'll admit that this is all just speculation and I'd love to be proving wrong here.

@JovahexeonXMAS Tron BonneI was talking more in terms of content (like more weapons, unlockables, stages, challenge missions, etc.) but then again, on further reflection platinum fit all they can into these games no matter the hardware and I doubt they'd wanna throw everything and the kitchen sink in at once anyway so your probably right.

"best Sonic game of all time?"

If you consider about five or six badly designed unfair bosses, some poor level design and half a missing story (am I talking about Mania or Forces) then that's not a very impressive "best Sonic game of all time."

The king Sonic 3&K is laughing at you

I'll admit the bosses aren't up the snuff...heck you could argue Sonic 3K as a whole has a much better difficulty curve. But in terms of everything related gameplay wise (the story isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things) I say is significantly more better and self aware, since the game wasn't made in the 90's lol

I am curious to know what levels in Mania you find to be "poor" tho... (as ironically I feel the same about a few Sonic 3 levels...)