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  1. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    You're reaching stunning new heights in dishonesty and willful misinterpretation here. Pay attention to what I actually said and respond to it, rather than a strawman, if you want to have an actual discussion.
  2. i've really got to get myself away from this series and invest my time in something constructive...

    1. TCB

      TCB

      like playing better games

      or reading

      reading is nice

    2. SenEDDtor Missile

      SenEDDtor Missile

      Do you make Youtube videos? Write a story? Sell stuff online? Insert some other thing I haven't thought of yet?

    3. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Not going on this site is a good start :V

    4. Soniman

      Soniman

      Its not hard to do honestly, and its much healthier

    5. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      @Soniman You'd be surprised how hard it is for people to quit this site...I mean, we're here after all lol.

    6. TCB

      TCB

      if you're still here then it proves it's harder than it looks. 

    7. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      @Soniman You'd be surprised how hard it is for people to quit this site...I mean, we're here after all lol.

  3. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    Am I supposed to suddenly not hate something terrible just because it's old? I'll gladly take a dozen more Lost Worlds before another '06.
  4. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    I'm not a fraction as sick of them as I am of "serious" Sonic.
  5. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    If you have no attachment to it, why do you care if it's destroyed? Again, it's cheap. Have they ever given us reason to believe otherwise? Nope, sorry. Basic pattern recognition with respect to Sonic Team being terrible doesn't mean I can't be pleased. Just making a reference to a previous event isn't meaningful. If all they've got is having the villains say "I'm here to get revenge on Sonic for *insert game*!" then it's a waste. You know when I actually had the tiniest sliver of hope for this game, I had hoped that we'd get to explore Sonic and Eggman's dynamics in the context of Eggman having finally won, but it looks like that's going to be buried under having to fight every other villain and also Mephiles 2.0. Yes, it's incredibly shit. A backstory's not going to make him any less of a pompous edgelord. And there's no indication that he isn't being taken seriously in game. Oh yeah all we have is evidence of him having helped write one of the worst Sonic game stories, which doesn't actually matter because...? I guess we're just supposed to exist in a void of not knowing or judging anything.
  6. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    The first thing they showed is is a wrecked city that we have no context for or attachment to. It serves only to say "we're serious this time, really!". What I want is villains with some actual meaning behind them. Considering the quality of this series' writing and how many balls this game is juggling, I do not believe for a second that they will do anything interesting with these characters to justify them being included. What an argument, he's too much like the thing I'm accusing him of being, so he must be something else! Sonic Team is not that clever. Okay, but what does that have to do with what I was responding to? I'm well aware that some people wanted darker stories, and I assume that they are not the people who are now complaining about this game having a darker story.
  7. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    Lack of credibility is a big part of it, yes, but also, "dark" just doesn't work for Sonic. It doesn't play to the strengths of the characters or the world that was established before all that bullshit, and even the "good" dark games alienated a lot of people. And I'm not saying that I don't think there's a place for interesting characters or compelling stories, those are things I absolutely want, but being "dark" or "serious" are not prerequisites to nor inherently supportive of better writing. Dark, serious stories can be just as trash as anything else. We as Sonic fans know that, because we've lived through that, we have seen the dumbest garbage pass through this series attempting to be dark and serious. And as far as I can see that's all Forces is accomplishing; a pompous edgelord of a new villain, returning villains just for fanservice, a ruined city for cheap drama points. "People" is vague to the point of being meaningless. I sure as hell wasn't asking for a darker story. So maybe can we cut this "oh Sonic fans are unpleasable hypocrites because they don't all march in lockstep" shit out? Please read my posts before trying to respond to them. But can you make a good story out of them? Your two minute attempt at mashing the pieces together certainly doesn't qualify.
  8. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    Yeah, that. That's a big part of it. Because this series trying to be "dark" brings to mind everything that nearly killed it the first time. Forces is "consistent with Modern Sonic's identity" in the sense that it looks like the same kind of bullshit that make him one of the biggest jokes in gaming. And tone issues aside, the story looks like a clusterfuck. Even from what little we've seen it's like the story is being pulled in a dozen different directions. How did Eggman take over the world/why couldn't Sonic stop him? Why is Classic Sonic here? What is the Avatar character's deal? What is Infinite's deal? What brought such an eclectic group of villains together? Why are Shadow and Chaos on Team Evil? Why's Green Hill full of sand? It's not that I'm expecting answers to all these questions this early on, but it's like they're throwing everything at the wall in the hopes that something sticks. Even a good writer would likely have trouble making anything coherent out of all these different plot threads, and since this is Sonic we're not even lucky enough to have that.
  9. Cutting content to get a game out on time is not some heinous crime and certainly not in any way unique to Iizuka or Sonic Team. Even the very best developers have faced this choice, have sometimes chosen to make cuts, and have been right to do so. There are plenty of good reasons to be pissed at Sonic Team. But this is the exact opposite of a good reason.
  10. Okay so the way I'm reading that, he considered cutting some content in order to get the game out on time, but in the end he decided against it and let them finish the content that had been planned from the start. I'm...not sure what part of that you're angry about.
  11. I'm not going to read through a whole interview and then try to guess which part(s) of it you're upset about. If there's something specific you're looking to discuss, actually say something about it.
  12. We don't know under what circumstances or through what methods Gerald was able to "finish" Shadow. The idea that he hacked into Shadow's brain is absolutely, 100% baseless, not the least bit more plausible than "actually turns out GUN let Gerald work on Shadow a bit anyway". And once he's got Shadow doing his bidding, there's no need for him to be hacking other things, and no reason to assume he's hacking other things when, again, there is no evidence that he is hacking things in the first place. He does when Gerald puts the instructions in his head. ShtH is incredibly stupid and I refuse to acknowledge it.
  13. Why make all these assumptions about Gerald hacking everything when we already know he messed with Shadow's head to get him to carry out his revenge. It's like you're creating a problem just so you can claim to solve it. You're pulling all this master hacker shit out of nowhere for what can simply be explained by Shadow acting on Gerald's orders.
  14. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    Nah. Everything I've seen of Forces' story looks like trash. And when something in a Sonic game looks like trash before release it almost certainly turns out to be trash after release. I've got no reason to hold back my judgement.
  15. Sonic Forces is Rated E10+...

    E10 isn't unreasonable for a Sonic game story. But based on everything they've shown I have no reason to believe the story won't be utter trash. Can't wait for "serious Sonic" to kill this series again.
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