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  1. The TSR roster is not the worse really... at least they didn't try to fill the space with clone characters like Classic Sonic.

    Have you seen the Mario Kart 8 roster? I saw this on twitter below and had a good laugh.


    So many baby and metal versions of characters. xD

    1. Diogenes


      i think the one with more than twice as many characters has the advantage even if people don't like all of the characters

    2. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      It's amusing when Sonic Racing stopped being "Sonic SEGA" racing, Mario Kart is starting to become "Mario & Nintendo Racing."

    3. JosepHenry


      I feel like is less annoying to have a soild list of few characters than a big list that is all over the place when you could have much better characters.

      Like Mario Kart 8 chose to have babies and existing characters with costumes over E Gadd, King Boo (the Luigi's Mansion one) Pauline, the many RPG characters (Goombella, Koops, Vivane, Geno, Mallow, Fawful), Diddy Kong, Funky Kong, Dixie Kong.... Good thing the non Mario characters made up for it.

    4. Lord-Dreamerz


      Meanwhile Crash drives by with Crash Team racing and says to Mario and Sonic...

      (Hold my wumpa fruit.)

    5. JosepHenry


      Except no one cares about most Crash characters at all lol

    6. mayday2592


      @JosepHenry and people care about Mario's cast of babies, generic enemies/npcs, and recolors? I've seen alot of hype for the possible CTR cast compared to Sonic or Mario. 

    7. JosepHenry


      Well yeah, Crunch is in lol

    8. JezMM


      To be fair I feel there's a lot of folks out there who have a particular favourite "clone" mario character that they like.  They probably don't care about them all, but they enjoy playing as that "one" from the set (babies etc) and that justifies including them all.

      Having said that Mario Kart 8 even when ignoring Nintendo guests and characters that are or could be argued to be clones, it still manages to have 3 more characters than TSR does lol (not that I have an issue with TSR's roster really outside of the Chao mobile).

    9. Thigolf


      Sonic also flooded its games with new, more or less major characters each game that get a huge following almost instantly unlike Mario which is much more reserved when it comes to including new characters that aren't just NPCs you see for 5 minutes in a much longer game and don't get much attention at all.

      MK8 is basically all the essentials with beloved other characters/enemies and a bunch of fluff on top to flesh out the roster count, TSR barely scratches the surface of even semi-popular/relevant characters, to the point where I'd argue that even essential ones aren't here.

    10. Lord-Dreamerz


      TSR should had included at least the rest of the Chaotix. The Babylon rogues... and perhaps somebody else to be the 3rd wheel with Blaze & Silver... maybe Cream as she is friends with Blaze.

    11. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry


      Plus, not counting the TV shows and comics of course, most every Sonic character was all made and held under Sonic Team's roof. So they can basically show up whenever they want.

      Unlike Mario, whose character ownership is all over the place no thanks to its countless spinoffs. Meaning you won't be expecting Waluigi, Daisy or Diddy to show up (in person) in a mainline title or any RPG character of your choice to appear in the party in sports games any time soon.

      That's quanity over quality for ya.

    12. JezMM


      I really don't think character ownership has anything to do with the mainline Mario games using spin-off characters or vice verca. Nintendo most definitely own all those characters, they're just weirdly strict when it comes to usage. Pauline showing up in Odyssey shows they could do it any time they wanted to, they just need a REALLY good reason to (interviews and such make it seem like they put a LOT of thought into putting Pauline into the game).

      I think the RPG characters don't appear outside of the RPGs because they're kind of unconventional designs from games that get obscurer by the day, I almost get where Nintendo are coming from there.

      Like it's all definitely silly and I have no doubt at all that the casual audience who would actually get something out of Baby Rosalina or Racoon Mario just based off visual appeal would be just as likely to be like "oh neat, a purple blob ghost thing with a witch hat I wanna play as her", but yeah, I still like, get it.

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