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  1. Hello everyone! This thread is for posting and discussing episodes of my new Sonic replay/rewatch/reread podcast, Deep Dive Zone! Youtube Twitter Old (outdated) concepts/ideas post:
  2. When I was growing up, I always thought of Knuckles as being the serious, solemn character who is slightly naive in certain places. It was an interpretation that has stuck with for years until someone posted a few posts that challenged this view of the character. I am aware that Knuckles was something of a trickster in Sonic 3 and Sonic Triple Trouble but I had no idea that he was supposed to be a joke character. Someone pointed out that one of the rival fights in Sonic the Fighters was played up as a joke as opposed to a serious rival fight. I never thought Knuckles as a "joke character" but I had not considered that Knuckles was not as "serious" as he pretended to be. To be honest, I was somewhat shocked that Knuckles was treated as a joke in those games as I always assumed that Knuckles was a somewhat serious character but I was wrong about him. What do you do you think about this? Was Knuckles ever a serious character? Did this revelation Knuckles was a joke change your view of the character? And what does that this revelation mean for Knuckles appearances in other Sonic media?
  3. We all are excited for the new Netflix premeire Sonic Prime but before we get too excited i would like for us to take a lil detour on this years road of mystery and uncertainy to relive these past moments. Feel free to laugh, imagine, and have fun. So get ready cause it's juice and jam time for our first show!!!...... Sonic The Hedeghog (SAT-AM) Why SAT-AM Sonic matters to me I remember when Sonic would always tease Antione for being literally scared of everything i would crack up at the sight of it. Sonic and Sally moments were golden i will always remember their relationship because Sonic loves being his reckless self while Sally is left doing all the worrying back in Knothole. Bunnie was always there to comfort her and Tails was just adorable with his comments in some episodes. This series tied in with the Archie comics as soon as the show ended i thought the comics would and i was going to be furious if the comics ended but they didn't the actully were named the longest running video game comic in America. Jaleel White (better known for Family Matters) brought Sonic some additude and flair to the way he lived his life. For example : Sally: Antoine will go with me. Sonic: Antoine?! You're kidding, right? Sally: I'm kidding, wrong! Sonic: Right or wrong? Sally: I'm right, you're wrong... as usual This Sonic was the one who was cool and smooth and nothing in Knotville could top him. I'm proud to say this series had a good run along with The Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog which i'll just throw in for fun..... Wow those were the good times right well were not done yet. That's right if you were like Shadow going "Hmph" "this is exceptional". Then slow down we haven't gotten to Shadow's time just yet so before we get there i'm going to tell you a little tale. Of three triplets who were birthed by a queen on the run and then a prophecy was fortold and Sonic Underground was soon underway...... Why Sonic Undergound matters to me This series was every Deviant Art fan's wish. Sonic, Sonia and Manic are royalty who are searching for their mother the Queen of Mobius. Well this brought me the rock opera Sonic i never knew could actully be pretty cool having a song every episode that i could sing along too was great (cringy worthy but great!). I liked how they went around helping everyone and showing that they really are royalty. Barnaby is hillariosly naive and since Sonic doesn't want his sister around Barnaby. He'll do anything to pull his sister away from the proud and entitled Barnaby. It's a family story that warmed my heart it's a shame the series was never finished. Well that was a nice addition wasn't it and if you still like Shadow going "Hmph" "this is exceptional" well then it's about time we reach new heights and dive into the anime show.... Sonic X!!!! Why Sonic X Matters to me That song was awesome and everything was catchy and oh my goodness i'm getting to excited. Anyways Sonic X was the 2000's Sonic this series ties in with Adventure 1 and 2 so as you can probably guess i and a lot of people on this site enjoyed it. Chris was a great addition from the moment he saved Sonic from drowning their relationship grew episode by episode they grew a bond that no one could break. One of my favorite moments was when Eggman and Chris talked about the time apocalypse https://youtu.be/p1ty3f4ld-g Chris actully shows us that he doesn't hide behind Sonic for protection and is ready to take action on his own if needed. When Sonic leaves it warms my heart and shows the friendship that the humans and Sonic's friends have established. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAo4Tiifwj Knuckles Solo stories are great and really fun. I personally loved hot head Knuckles and him being a little guilible. Shadow's story is legendary and brought me to tears and really suprised me to see that the Sonic Adventure 2 battle with the the Biolizard was very well done and i enjoyed seeing Sonic and Shadow fight side by side. Sonic X was great while it lasted and i'll always treasure Jason Griffth as one of Sonic's many Va's. Well it's time for something a little more current. It's about get ready for tech genius,comedic badgers and angry pink hedgehogs. I guess you could say were going out with a Sonic Boom!!!..... Why Sonic Boom matters to me Sonic Boom was sarcastic genius. Tails was getting himself a girlfriend. Sonic and Knuckles had the stupidest challenges against each other. Amy was always getting mixed up in all the stupidity and Sticks was adding on to the chaos by saying the world would be taken from us by robotic toasters. This was a great show for kids and adults alike. My favorite guy comedy chimp was always featuring some garbage that the gang would listen to on tv. Like Soar the Eagle had to fly around with a jetpack but he writes motivation books on how to fly. When Tails can fly and he can't (isn't that ironic). Or when the girls start listening to Justin Beaver and the boys try to figure out why the girls are brain washed. I could go on and on but for now i'll leave the rest of the watching to you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PTilV1gG5I. Sonic has had great success in the Tv series that aired. So lets look forward to the future of Sonic tv with the New show Sonic Prime!!! To Be Continued????
  4. I have often wondered, is Shadow the Hedgehog the Ultimate Lifeform as he proclaims? You get the impression he is due to his incredible ability to wield Chaos Control. When you face the Biolizard in SA2 it reads “Prototype of the Ultimate Lifeform.” But is Shadow really The Ultimate Lifeform? Or was that some kind of brain washing he recieved? Outside of Black Doom in the Shadow The Hedgehog Spin off video game, is there any indicator Shadow is the Ultimate lifeform in the games and comics? Could not Mephiles the Dark be a candidate for the Ultimate Lifeform? So is Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform or not? Was this just his own egotism and brainwashing or is it true, is he the greatest lifeform in the Sonic Universe? Chaos Shadow
  5. My Top 3 Sonic moments are..... 1.Sonic X Showdown In Space(SA2): This is when Shadow risks everything for the humans to save their world. I remember crying as a kid because I already knew death at a young age but when he came back to the series it was legendary and just in time. 2.Sonic Battle/Emerl: This game was awesome overall for a Gameboy game and the saddest thing was destroying the thing you created. I literally put hours into making him the ultimate fighter and now I had to beat my own creation. 3.Secret Rings/Ending Cutscene Sonic shows us how badass he really is by sending away a genie and saving another. This was so satisfying because I had a lot of difficulty with the motion controls and I made it through. Do you have a top 3 or maybe just one. Either way let me know below
  6. You know something that really annoys me? When people throw Rouge under the bus because of her design being not “kid-friendly”. Honestly, I’ve never seen any positive comments about this character as it seems that the only thing that comes to people’s mind when it comes to this character is breasts. I remember back in the days when Cobanermani used to do Let’s Plays on YouTube, he’d often mock Rouge calling her ‘Rouge the W****’ on a regular basis. I’ve even seen some comments from some people calling Sega sexist for creating Rouge as a “sex-model”. Even on this very forum people have posted a petition to redesign Rouge: This really makes me sad as I feel that people are just throwing such a great character aside simply because of a questionable character design choice. Is the Sonic community really that mastophobic that they want to grab their torches and pitch-forks just because one character shows a bit of cleavage? It’s sad to say if Rouge simply didn’t show cleavage then people wouldn’t treat her as a joke which I think is pathetic and goes to show how immature the gaming community is. Though I find it ironic that with the recent release of Space Jam: A New Legacy, fans have been having the exact opposite reaction in regards to Lola Bunny as they were upset at having her de-sexified in the new movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSroWWYsiK4 First of all, I’m perfectly fine with Rouge showing off her breasts, and no I’m not just saying that because I’m a guy who likes boobies. I think Rouge’s voluptuous design is what makes her stand out from the rest of the cast. Rouge was introduced as the first villainess for the franchise (ok maybe villainess is not the right word, she’s more of an anti-hero but the point though is that she’s not a ‘good guy’ character like Sonic), just by looking at her design and appearance you can see that she’s not this little petite girl who would never harm a fly. Her attire consists of a leather latex suit with long sexy boots and gloves complimented by a shapely heart-shaped bra showing off her breasts followed by eye-liner to glorify her eye lashes. Her design is downright risqué, yes, that’s the freaking point! Rouge is not supposed to be cute, sweet, and innocent like Amy or Cream, Rouge is an anti-hero who doesn’t play by the rules, and her alluring design is meant to display the fact that she doesn’t give a rat’s behind of what anyone thinks about her. And in addition to her display of cleavage, one can also argue that it’s to show her mature age. Rouge is the oldest of the female cast at the age of 17 and is the second oldest character (by appearance of course, Shadow is half a century old but retains the appearance of a 15-year old hedgehog) in the roster being beaten by Vector who is 20 last I checked, so it makes sense for Rouge to have breasts. And while we’re on the topic of Rouge’s design, it’s very common for villainesses and female anti-heroes in other franchises to have risqué designs as well. Just look at Catwoman from the Batman universe. She’s completely covered in latex accompanied by high heels (like Rouge) and equipped with a sexy whip. Like Rouge, she’s an anti-hero and her design is meant to show that she’s not a voice for justice or wants to put others before herself like Batgirl. She’s selfish and fights for her own desires and wants much like Rouge. Sure Catwoman, like Rouge, will team up with the hero occasionally for the fate of the world or to solve some other problem, but usually they are fighting for themselves and they don’t care if anyone has a problem with that hence why they dress as if they could care less what the world thinks about them. The same can be said for Black Cat from Spider-Man who like Rouge, isn’t afraid to show off her drumroll her cleavage! Showing off breasts is just a common theme for female anti-heroes and villainesses, and I think it’s ridiculous for Rouge to be hated for something that a lot of characters within her archetype in other media get away with. So once you get past the whole Herp Derp R0uGe h@z teh BI6 B00BI3$ I think Rouge has some interesting qualities that make her a great character. First of all, I think Rouge makes a good foil to Amy. In the classic era Amy was really the only female character among the cast. At this time Amy was the typical cute, sweet, and innocent girly type of character; Sure she began to become more independent during her story arc in Sonic Adventure where she grew from damsel in distress to strong heroine. But her actions and motivations are still dependent on Sonic as she’s basically obsessed with the character. I think Rouge’s introduction helped to break the mold of the ‘girls rely on men’ stereotype. Rouge was very intelligent as she was scheming behind Eggman’s back working for the government with her own plan to steal the emeralds and bail when the time was right throughout the Dark Side story in SA2. She was strong enough to take down Flying Dog which was Prison Islands’ greatest form of defense against intruders. And her agility skills can rival that of Tails and Knuckles as she was basically a Tails clone in heroes and a Knuckles clone in SA2. Ok sure, there were scenes where she was saved by both Shadow and Knuckles in SA2 but the former was more so to make Shadow have a flashback of Maria and demonstrate the planet-hopping powers of chaos-control and the latter was just a display of Knuckles X Rouge fan-service. Speaking of Knuckles X Rouge, another reason why Rouge is such a great character is because she makes a great love interest for Knuckles. Yeah some people would argue that Rouge goes better with Shadow but I see Rouge and Shadow having more of a brother-sister relationship. When it comes to Knuckles on the other hand, we clearly see Rouge tease and flirt with Knuckles on a daily basis, she can’t resist finding an opportunity to push his buttons whenever they meet. Some may argue that this is a reason to hate Rouge as it helped start the whole ‘Knuckles is stupid’ characteristic post-Sonic Heroes. But I still think it’s funny to see Knuckles as this big and strong dude get upset at a woman throwing signs at him to agitate and embarrass him in a playful manner, much like how Amy is always comedically chasing after Sonic but Sonic is simply not interested. These comedic romantic skits simply wouldn’t work with Shadow as I feel they would degrade his serious and dark character and are better used with Knuckles. Now on the topic of Shadow, he’s the 2nd most popular Sonic character in the franchise and Rouge is his most trustworthy friend just as how Tails is Sonic’s most trustworthy friend. Knowing this, it’s really sad to see Rouge be tossed aside by the fandom. Rouge is basically the ‘Tails’ for Shadow, though unlike Tails, Rouge is actually independent. Tails is pretty much always attached to Sonic by the hip, seldom do we ever see Sonic without Tails palling around. Rouge on the other hand may be best buddies with Shadow, but she’s not under him 24/7. As a government spy she’s often doing her own thing on missions and knows how to take care of herself. She also will not hesitate to care for her friends when they’re in trouble. In the very underrated game, Sonic Battle, there’s a scene when Shadow get’s badly injured by one of Eggman’s robots and Rouge actually takes him back to her club and treats him until he’s better again. I always found that to be a really interesting moment that goes to show that Rouge isn’t as selfish and uptight as people may claim her to be. In fact, I think this may be the only time in the games where we a Sonic character becoming seriously injured and needs to be nursed back to health by another Sonic character. We’ve never even seen something like that happen with Sonic and Tails (although we did have a scene like this in 06 with Sonic and Elise but we all know how the internet feels about that). And in regards to Tails, he should be the most iconic character in the franchise aside from Sonic and Eggman, despite this, he was basically replaced by Rouge in the second half of Sonic X Season 2. Rouge joins Sonic and Knuckles in the fight against the rampaging Emerl, this continues in other episodes as well, meanwhile Tails is just tossed to the side: https://youtu.be/b-qHbNGKnYE?t=711 I felt that multiple characters were frustratingly misused in Sonic X, especially Tails, but I think one of the few characters that were well written was Rouge. Rouge was so cool in Sonic X, she’s one of the few characters that actually fought and demonstrated impressive strength feats. And she was basically the strongest female character among the roster. Most of Amy’s fighting scenes were for comedic purposes; Cream, aside from a few scenes in season 3, for the most part only fought once which was against Emerl. Tikal was the typical guidance character like she was in the original Sonic Adventure, and Cosmo wasn’t a fighter either. Rouge on the other hand was given a bit of an origin story in Sonic X and was considered to be such a threat by the military that she was forcefully recruited to join GUN as an agent and help them take down Eggman. Not only this, but we are shown that she’s strong enough to go head-to-head with Knuckles on multiple occasions as well as being smart enough to build her own space ship in Season 3 (I always thought Tails and Rouge being on Eggman’s level of intergalactic vehicle manufacturing was ridiculous but that’s a rant for another day). If Sonic X deserves an applause for anything, I believe it should definitely be praised for it’s portrayal of Rouge. Lastly, not really much of a characteristic but I always thought it was cool to see that like Shadow, Rouge is the only character to seem to respect Eggman by referring to him as ‘The Doctor’. This may be due to the events in SA2 where even though she was plotting to back-stab Eggman, deep down she still respects him as they were partners at one point. Also, Rouge seems to have the greatest variety of outfits throughout the series iirc, that’s cool I guess, I always thought her Heroes outfit was awesome, it would be nice to see her in it again. Well, there’s my two cents on Rouge The Bat. It’s a shame that most people just write her off as “inappropriate” for the Sonic franchise because HURR DURR B00B$ SHULDN’T B N S@N1C GAMZ But I think she’s a really great character with multiple interesting traits. Like I said, she makes for a great foil to Amy, hilarious love interest and rival for Knuckles, considerate sister-figure for Shadow, and strong independent female anti-hero who deserves a lot more respect. Edit: Sorry some of the video links are acting wonky.
  7. with Sonic Prime comming out, i decided to remake a thread i found years ago, that i can't find anymore, i myself have an idea for a series, the format is optional, btw, have fun! Remember, share your ideas and have fun.
  8. So, I saw a video on the power levels of all the characters in Sonic X the other day. It was an interesting watch. What do you guys think? Video created by user Media Entertainment.
  9. I know Sonic has been portrayed differently in most media all over the world but I wonder if our cultural values and norms affect how he is portrayed?
  10. The speechless classic Sonic styled animated series 'Sonic Mania Adventures' has had 6 short 2-3 minute episodes so far that you can watch online. But is there potential for a complete TV series out of this formula similar to SATAM, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, etc?
  11. During my travels through the internet, I’ve come across what I think is one of the most fascinating aspects of the global syndication of Sonic TV shows: alternate theme songs! Whilst Underground and SatAM just used the same intro song dubbed into different languages, AoSTH and Sonic X actually had totally different themes which were used in different countries. Some of these songs are pretty good, but it doesn’t seem that many people outside of the original broadcast area have heard them… until now! So without further ado, let’s start with AoSTH had the greatest variety of theme songs. Nearly every country that syndicated the show put their own cultural spin on the opening. Watching them all is like going on a world tour! Spanish: Interestingly enough, the backing track for this was taken from the opening of the Italian release of a cartoon called Widget the World Watcher. You can watch that opening here for comparison’s sake. Below are the English-translated lyrics. Italian: (my personal favorite) Catchy little song, eh? You can download a high-quality, extended version of this song here – it actually got an album release along with a bunch of other Italian kid’s show themes. This song was sung by Cristina D’Avena. Once again, the English lyrics are below (although they don't always make sense...) French: Italy’s theme song, re-dubbed into French by Alexis Tomassian. Arabic: I really like this one, too – it sounds very “Middle Eastern”, but they kept the video game theme tune as a base. Unfortunately, I don’t speak Arabic, so I don’t have any idea what the lyrics are! Korean: Another interesting take on the main theme. This was also used in the Korean release of Sonic Christmas Blast (all the other countries just used the instrumental music from the English release). Speaking of which, the English opening for AoSTH (which I won’t post for the sake of brevity) was used in Germany, Portugal, Brazil, the U.K., and the U.S., as far as I know. and For some reason, both of these cartoons had the same theme song regardless of country, just dubbed into different languages. Fortunately, SonicBowl on Youtube has put all of them together in one video. These aren't nearly as interesting as the AoSTH ones, but it is neat to hear how the rhythm of the lyrics sometimes had to be changed to fit the language. Sonic SatAM: Sonic Underground: That leaves us with... With Sonic X, we start to see huge differences in theme songs from country to country again. USA: Gotta Go Fast! But this isn't the normal version of the song... ...it's a mysterious alternate version which I found playing in the background of a flash game on the 4kids website a few years back. It’s almost exactly the same as the final, but with different singers and a slightly shorter length. A demo version, perhaps? You can grab the mp3 here, if you're so inclined. Japan: SONIC DRIVE. You’ve probably already heard that one, but did you know it was dubbed by Claude Vallois… …into French? France only used this theme for the first season. After that, they switched to the Generic European version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py1lUJtw3Nk This one was used in the U.K. and other European countries. The constant repeating of “Sonic X” means no translation is required, I guess. Spanish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlnl6D0zXI A redub of “Gotta Go Fast”. I’ve saved the best for last. The country that has my favorite theme of all is… Italy! This song is so awesome, I posted the full version! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCIVoNDZK0s Once again, Italy manages to pull off an extremely unique and well-done song. I wonder why it's so different than the others? Download the song here. It's worth it. You can also check out the original TV version here (it's in low quality, but I love how they put Sonic's wink at the end).
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