thegameexplorer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) I'm using 3DS Max 2009 32 bit on Windows 7 and 2 problems occur randomly: 1: Max just instantly closes without any notification. 2: The Max script window shows up and I get an unknown system exception error window which repeats a few times and after that nothing happens. This happens when importing Sonic's model, while it works on Super Sonic just fine. I find that very weird Edited June 16, 2012 by thegameexplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBoomFP Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Woo! "Long time no see!" So, I've been gone from Generations hacking for a while. Before this, I reread 20+ pages of Stage mods and Model imports, soooo... I decide to have a crack at it.. The results = Warning: I may sounds stupid here. XD So, let's start with stages. So, I attempted (the key word here is attempted) to try and port a stage from Mario Kart into Generations, and board through it (Neat idea, isn't it). I did the object placement and the geometry: But the collision went downhill, not matter what I try, Shadow/Sonic will just fall through the level. I used the correct settings and 3DS Max 2011 (with Havok 2010.20 (or something)). Onto another failure, the model imports... No, this is not the Free Riders model, this is an edited Generations model I made using parts from Sonic Rider's Sonic model. Tried porting it in-game... Well... The results speaks for itself. This is without the custom animations, should I've made custom animations? I figured I wouldn't need it since this is just an edit of Generations' model. An update on Shadow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk000u25LBg&feature=youtu.be New Rank animations, I tried to avoid animations that "erratically hops from one to? another" so instead I chose to simply make Shadow step from his result look pose and to a pose. Have I improve? That's up to you to decide. :3 Edited June 16, 2012 by BoomBoomFP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegameexplorer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) I love how people use my Double Dash tracks! For the model, I suggest using JoeTE's tutorial on the previous page. Edited June 16, 2012 by thegameexplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando-Whirl-Wind Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) ok so update, here is a pair of WIP pics of my mecha-knuckles(archie)[still needs tons of texture work, and I might redo the torso, and part of the arms and legs that I havent done yet] he is going to be one of the allies in knuckle's chaotix mod, for the first group of levels, I am going for a retro/archie feel, I have a slightly modified plan for the first boss, though I will state who it is later, and I was considering adding for fun as an enemy swatbots, so here are the pics this is what happens when knux turns into a robot to fight an evil roboticized sonic, he and mecha sonic accidently got pulled into the inbetween zone by metal sonic who thought they were both allies also, I am thinking of modifiing vector into his original appearance from knuckles chaotix. also, once I have mighty, I will make a loading screen background, that if I can I might try turning into the opening page Edited June 16, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 2.0 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 ok so update, here is a pair of WIP pics of my mecha-knuckles(archie)[still needs tons of texture work, and I might redo the torso, and part of the arms and legs that I havent done yet] he is going to be one of the allies in knuckle's chaotix mod, for the first group of levels, I am going for a retro/archie feel, I have a slightly modified plan for the first boss, though I will state who it is later, and I was considering adding for fun as an enemy swatbots, so here are the pics this is what happens when knux turns into a robot to fight an evil roboticized sonic, he and mecha sonic accidently got pulled into the inbetween zone by metal sonic who thought they were both allies also, I am thinking of modifiing vector into his original appearance from knuckles chaotix. also, once I have mighty, I will make a loading screen background, that if I can I might try turning into the opening page How Did you do That? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando-Whirl-Wind Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 some modeling exp, and a couple hours of focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 2.0 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) What is your modding logiciel ? Oh,and for the voices,they aren't removables or changeables ? Edited June 16, 2012 by Mecha 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe T.E. Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 For the model, I suggest using JoeTE's tutorial on the previous page. My tutorial is about speeding up the rigging process, not how to actually make an imported model work correctly. There are quite a few other things I haven't talked about yet... Onto another failure, the model imports... No, this is not the Free Riders model, this is an edited Generations model I made using parts from Sonic Rider's Sonic model. Tried porting it in-game... Well... The results speaks for itself. This is without the custom animations, should I've made custom animations? I figured I wouldn't need it since this is just an edit of Generations' model. You could try sending that model to me. I've done a few successful imports of models based on Sonic's Generations model (both the Classic and Modern ones), so I can probably fix that up and make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McStrosin Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 How do i change from advanced to simple mode in cpkredir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 2.0 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Why nobody answer my questions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegameexplorer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Because we post too fast and people don't like reading 3 pages of questions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylky Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 ^ Ha! Speaking of which, what's going on with Bridge Zone? Would love to see the progress on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin. Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Because we post too fast and people don't like reading 3 pages of questions. Everybody is shoving their projects in our faces. It's like I said people, finish one project before working on another. For instance; Mandobardanjusik, weren't you working on a Silver Sonic mod? And iiazurenovaii, work on ONE STAGE AT A TIME, you're overloading yourself with different maps. Speaking of which, what's going on with Bridge Zone? Would love to see the progress on that! Exactly. We haven't heard anything on that. Most likely because it was forgotten over newer projects. And 2000 messages. Yay. Who will claim it? Okay, back on topic. Edited June 16, 2012 by The True BlackHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando-Whirl-Wind Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) well, silver sonic was a pet project, not a main project, I am currently working on a main mod, thats what you have been seeing, silver sonic is not my focus there is also a reason I go by the title 'maveric modeler' I take advantage of when I have motiviation to make progress to what I am up to Edited June 16, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe T.E. Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) I was hoping to get post 2000, but post 2001 is nice too. XD Oh,and for the voices,they aren't removables or changeables ? Besides having your post looked over, I can assume not many people here even know how to change the game's sounds. I'm one of the few who knows how to change sounds, but I'm not very good at teaching others how it all works... Sonic's voice clips are changeable. I don't remember which file his voice clips are stored in, but I do know that they are stored within .csb files, which are found within specific ar.00 files. To give an example of what you need to do, you'd need to unpack the .csb files using a program called CSB Unpacker (the same one used in music modding.) You then have to make new .aax files of the sound effects (and they MUST have the same samplerate. I'm probably the ONLY person here who knows how to see which samplerate any aax files use.) Then you can use CSB Unpacker to re-pack the edited AAX files into a new CSB, then place the csb back into the ar.00 file... That's only a basic rundown of what needs to be done. Going over the exact details, skills, and tools needed would take forever... EDIT: For the past few hours, I'd been having a few issues with the whole Alpha-Translucent mesh support in the new SonicGlvl. After messing around with EasyOgreExporter (I'd been using OgreMax) and some texture compression types, I managed to get the translucency to finally work on this model (Heck, using EasyOgreExporter fixed the minor rigging issues this model had whenever I used OgreMax) However, there's now a new problem... Various parts of him are now way too shiny... Keep in mind that I'm using the exact same .material files from the original Silver model... It's as if the non-diffuse maps are aren't as subtle looking as they are in the original model... Edited June 17, 2012 by JoeTE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando-Whirl-Wind Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 nice, I am still having the issue of having the model I export as a mesh, then to model, crashing whenever it loads ingame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku262002 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 [media=] Dude seriously stop cock teasing us with these videos. blackhawk showed us you have started 3+ projects already, why don't you just slow down and just work on 1 so maybe sometime by the end of this year we can see a stage release from you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin. Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Suddenly I feel like a cop. well, silver sonic was a pet project, not a main project, I am currently working on a main mod, thats what you have been seeing, silver sonic is not my focus there is also a reason I go by the title 'maveric modeler' I take advantage of when I have motiviation to make progress to what I am up to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Has someone thought of trying to replicate or extract the Generations Engine to use as SonicGDK or is that some sort of felony? I was going to suggest that, but we would need to add a lot of things. Extra Animations, Grind Rails, Enemies, etc. I don't it would be a felony, as it would basically be a fangame, and as long as we don't sell it, we should be fine. Personally, I would love to it if I knew uScript. Using the Unreal Editor isn't that hard. It's a lot better than using Sonic Blitz. If you're willing to take a shot at it. Then I can give you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDNexus Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I was going to suggest that, but we would need to add a lot of things. Extra Animations, Grind Rails, Enemies, etc. I don't it would be a felony, as it would basically be a fangame, and as long as we don't sell it, we should be fine. Personally, I would love to it if I knew uScript. Using the Unreal Editor isn't that hard. It's a lot better than using Sonic Blitz. If you're willing to take a shot at it. Then I can give you something. I was just pointing out the idea, I'm not intent on doing it since I don't even have know how to do such a thing... I just thought it could be nice and a good addiction/substitute to Blitz & GDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 =(. Oh, well. I was hoping to get going on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegameexplorer Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I was hoping to get post 2000, but post 2001 is nice too. XD Besides having your post looked over, I can assume not many people here even know how to change the game's sounds. I'm one of the few who knows how to change sounds, but I'm not very good at teaching others how it all works... Sonic's voice clips are changeable. I don't remember which file his voice clips are stored in, but I do know that they are stored within .csb files, which are found within specific ar.00 files. To give an example of what you need to do, you'd need to unpack the .csb files using a program called CSB Unpacker (the same one used in music modding.) You then have to make new .aax files of the sound effects (and they MUST have the same samplerate. I'm probably the ONLY person here who knows how to see which samplerate any aax files use.) Then you can use CSB Unpacker to re-pack the edited AAX files into a new CSB, then place the csb back into the ar.00 file... That's only a basic rundown of what needs to be done. Going over the exact details, skills, and tools needed would take forever... EDIT: For the past few hours, I'd been having a few issues with the whole Alpha-Translucent mesh support in the new SonicGlvl. After messing around with EasyOgreExporter (I'd been using OgreMax) and some texture compression types, I managed to get the translucency to finally work on this model (Heck, using EasyOgreExporter fixed the minor rigging issues this model had whenever I used OgreMax) [image removed] However, there's now a new problem... Various parts of him are now way too shiny... Keep in mind that I'm using the exact same .material files from the original Silver model... It's as if the non-diffuse maps are aren't as subtle looking as they are in the original model... You're not the only one, I use audacity to view to original frequency, and after that I set the project's frequency according to that. Mostly 44100 or 48000. I believe voices were 48000 but I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korama Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) You're not the only one, I use audacity to view to original frequency, and after that I set the project's frequency according to that. Mostly 44100 or 48000. I believe voices were 48000 but I forgot. I haven't tried it yet, but with the right tools you should be able to change the sample rates at will. (Screenshot of a work in progress UTF/CPK/CSB editor I started.) Edited June 17, 2012 by Korama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0ms0nic Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Dude seriously stop cock teasing us with these videos. blackhawk showed us you have started 3+ projects already, why don't you just slow down and just work on 1 so maybe sometime by the end of this year we can see a stage release from you. He's posting videos of work that other people are doing, isn't he? Green Forest and Metal Harbor are being seperatly done by two seperate people, while Mission Street and Windy Valley are the only actual ones done by one person and are being worked on at different times. Looking forward to that CSB editor! Would love to be able to play around with the SFX... and finally change that 1UP jingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 2.0 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=5555 You'll need to install this, takes only a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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