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Ugh, it just seems so pointless and a waste of  a film. What are you going to do? Pull a Secret Six with them?

I feel the same way. I'd love to see the Sinister Six as the villains in a Spider-Man film, but I can't see how a stand alone film with them as the main characters is supposed to work. Who do you root for, Spider-Man or the Sinister Six? Might as well make it another sequel in this series. Which in a sense it will be, just in the perspective of the villains I guess.

 

Sony at one time had both Spider-Man and Ghost Rider franchises under their roof, Ghost Rider has since reverted back to Marvel after "Spirit of Vengeance". While the Ghost Rider films weren't exactly grade A material, I did enjoy them, and part of me wishes that Sony had gotten both Spider-Man and Ghost Rider in a film together, creating their own mini Marvel Universe. If done right it could've been awesome.

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First reviews are in, for a (tentative) consensus of 88% on the Tomatometer and 58 on Metacritic. Common at this point opinion seems to be that it's decent, but largely hampered by tangled plot threads. It's better received on RT than the first, but more poorly received on Meta.

 

Speaking as someone who was hoping for a trainwreck, they better not have wimped out and made a good film instead >:U

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Um, can I just say the idea of a Sinister Six movie actualy sounds interesting to me, and I really, really hope they bring in mysterio

 

I mean, we are FINALY getting a Marvel movie based around the VILLIANS for once, who tend to be some of the more dynamic characters in the marvel universe

 

Also, if Stacy does die, and they brought in Mysterio for TAS3, just imagine how much he would mess with Spideys head, thats one of his skills ya know

I'm gonna be a dissenter here..

 

I'd like to see a sinister six movie..Just maybe now by them...

So far, even if Sony has only one movie under their belt, the Raimi-verse is superior for me...and I HATED spider-man 3 honestly.

And looking how clusterfuck the 2nd one could be and I don't think they can unify and characterize the sinister six well....

...don't get me wrong, I'd LOVED to eat my own words and see a great sinister six movie..

I won't forget how much of a hardcore disappointment the first movie of this new series was..

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The current RT rating is going to inevitably shoot down as more reviews pop if going by the current impressions. The current ratio has me believe it'll be... okay. But I've seen some more extreme downhills before (Iron Man 3 originally got certified fresh with a glowing consensus at 90%-ish, but shot down to 78%. Kick-Ass 2 was even more extreme starting off at 60% or so and fell down to 28%). I'm going to take a guess that it'll simmer down to around 70%.

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Looks to me like the film is getting very mixed reviews. I'm checking IMDB's ASM2 message board and most of the people who saw it at the premiere say it was disappointing. But it is mixed since some people enjoyed it too. *shrug*

 

Oh and

Gwen does die at the end.

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Looks to me like the film is getting very mixed reviews. I'm checking IMDB's ASM2 message board and most of the people who saw it at the premiere say it was disappointing. But it is mixed since some people enjoyed it too. *shrug*

 

Oh and

Gwen does die at the end.

Everyone was expecting that to happen. Guess they were serious about introducing Mary Jane and staying faithful to the comics in that rite.

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Everyone was expecting that to happen. Guess they were serious about introducing Mary Jane and staying faithful to the comics in that rite.

They did not stay faithful to the comics at all.

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Looks to me like the film is getting very mixed reviews. I'm checking IMDB's ASM2 message board and most of the people who saw it at the premiere say it was disappointing. But it is mixed since some people enjoyed it too. *shrug*

 

Oh and

Gwen does die at the end.

 

beautiful-patrick-dempsey-looks-surprise

 

Oh wow, the entire world never saw that coming.

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Looks to me like the film is getting very mixed reviews. I'm checking IMDB's ASM2 message board and most of the people who saw it at the premiere say it was disappointing. But it is mixed since some people enjoyed it too. *shrug*

 

Oh and

Gwen does die at the end.

Oh snap. What a cracking twist. Hate to break it to people who are unaware of it. How many more neck breaking puns can I work in, who knows.

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Producers talk about the Venom Spinoff

http://screenrant.com/venom-movie-carnage-rumors/

 

‘Spider-Man’ Producers Talk Carnage Appearance in ‘Venom’ Movie
 

Published by Kofi Outlaw

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If you’re not yet primed and ready for the 2014 summer movie season, you should probably know that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is going to be opening the door to a very big Spider-Man movie universe, which will try to distinguish itself from competitors by offering audiences spinoff films focusing on villain/anti-hero characters, rather than traditional superhero origin stories. The supervillain team-up film Sinister Six is something of a wild card, but fans have been eagerly waiting a LONG time to get a movie starring Spider-Man nemesis Venom – an event that’s finally coming to pass.

Like with Sinister Six, there are so many questions still surrounding Sony’s approach to a Venom film franchise – namely, what kind of story do you tell in order to provide audiences with the sort of bad boy they can rally behind for a solo film, and will be willing to follow into future sequels? Well, one way most hardcore fans have observed would be to employ a particular character from Spider-Man comics: Venom’s other nemesis, Carnage.

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For those who don’t know Spider-Man lore, there are different versions of the characters Venom and Carnage depending on the telling; however, since much of The Amazing Spider-Man universe seems to rely on the continuity of the Ultimate Spider-Man comic books, we’ll discuss those versions first. (Especially since it’s already been strongly hinted that Venom symbiote is indeed the property of Oscorp, like in Ultimate comics – SEE ABOVE PHOTO.)

In the Ultimate universe, Venom is created as a special organic suit developed at Oscorp by Richard Parker (Peter’s dad) and Eddie Brock Sr, as a means to cure cancer. Peter and Eddie Brock Jr. (childhood friends in this versioin) end up bonding with samples of the Venom suit, resulting in the Ultimate versions of black-suit Spidey and Venom. Things later take a further turn when samples of Peter’s blood (containing Venom suit DNA) and Curt Connors/The Lizard’s blood are mixed together, resulting in a vampiric entity known as Carnage. Ultimate Carnage kills Gwen Stacy and takes her form (amongst others, T-100-style), until Spider-Man finally defeats it.

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At this point it’s clear that not everything in the Amazing Spider-Man universe will be borrowed directly from the Ultimate continuity, so it definitely bears mentioning that the traditional version of Carnage is actually a serial killer named Cletus Kasady – someone who has already been introduced into the Amazing Spider-Man Movie Universe, via recent viral marketing. Fans tend to love the Cletus Kasady version – and serial killers are en vogue at the moment – but that’s not to say that the shape-shifting Ultimate Carnage (which takes on the appearance of Peter Parker’s deceased loved ones) is not without its own charm.

Given the opportunities and seeds already planted into this film universe, you wouldn’t even have to limit yourself to just one of these versions: there’s room for bad symbiotes to have many (or no hosts)! However, the recent Venom short film does have us curious if a hard-boiled crime story about a reporter with a dark secret hunting down a serial killer with a dark secret isn’t a perfect fit in this era of Hannibal and The Following. It would at least be something different from the genre.

Check out Amazing Spider-Man 2 producers Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad discussing the Carnage possibilities in a Venom movie (via IGN):

The Venom movie is being written by Amazing Spider-Man 2 scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, working alongside co-writer Ed Solomon (Now You See Me); Kurtzman will also direct the film, his second directorial feature project after People Like Us. That creative team has sparked some debate and criticism (especially those who don’t care for Orci/Kurtzman’s work on films like Star Trek Into Darkness), but Tolmach’s coy answer seems to indicate that A) They already have a Venom/Carnage scenario in mind, and B) they’re confident that it (and the movie, conceptually,) will be something to behold.

…And with that we add yet another brick of pressure on the back of Amazing Spider-Man 2. Early Reviews (read HERE) have been slanting on the positive side so far, generally speaking, but there have been pointed criticisms as well – especially in the area of the script and story. Narrative, themes, characterization… these are all things that these experimental supervillain films are really going to have to nail down – especially if Spider-Man presence will be minimal in those flicks.

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As for the Venom movie: I believe I can risk speaking for many fans when I say that a Carnage/Venom showdown is what we want to see. More to the point: Carnage is a great way to prop-up a Venom movie, as Cletus Kasady’s (or the symbiote’s) homicidal chaos and sadism is a much darker reflection of what Eddie Brock/Venom could be, if not for his vaunted (but twisted) moral code about not harming what he deems to be “innocents.” If you want to sell an anti-hero to the public, compare him to a much worse alternative.

Although: Amazing Spider-Man 3 will need to a good job of getting through the Venom introduction, if this Venom solo film hopes to have the freedom to really get into things like second symbiotes.

 

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Currently standing at 83% with 23 reviews, RT summary is

 

Thanks to Marc Webb's confident directing and talented cast, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 entertains in spite of its crowded canvas and occasionally stilted narrative.

 

I wanna see ittttt~

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That's an oddly low review cap for a consensus, particularly for something that's going to stand at around 250 reviews when all is said and done. Most movies don't get one until the 50 review mark and only two top critics have weighed in so far.

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