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Barry the Nomad

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I just figured that Casino Street doesn't really have much to do with any "mission" Metal Sonic might be on. Splash Hill is the typical starting stage, and the website blurb on Episode 2 makes mention of Lost Labyrinth and Mad Gear having some sort of importance to the story. Casino Street on the other hand doesn't really seem to have that much significance (and coulda been built by Eggman too, meaning he wouldn't really need to go there).

Though I guess Metal Sonic will end up going to Casino Street anyway, so that they can cover all of Episode 1 in the one shot.

But I also kinda wonder now, if Episode Metal will have any Bosses. It's been said by other people already that it would be a bit daft for Metal Sonic to fight Eggman in his boss machines from Episode 1, but at the same time I don't really get the impression that there would be any brand new bosses created just for Metal Sonic. So I kinda wonder if Metal Sonic will just have stages and no more.

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Story-wise, it hasn't been shown to have any relevance. Sonic just passed through it on the way to Lost Labyrinth.

> Implying any of the stages in E1 have story relevance.

No seriously, there was absolutely no story to E1 besides what was conjured up solely for use on the website. e website now says something like "what was Eggman looking for in Lost Labyrinth"? My guess is nothing then and nothing now. None of that will be touched upon outside of the website. The most I can see EM's story amounting to is him following in Sonic's footsteps and glowing purple.

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> Implying any of the stages in E1 have story relevance.

No seriously, there was absolutely no story to E1 besides what was conjured up solely for use on the website. e website now says something like "what was Eggman looking for in Lost Labyrinth"? My guess is nothing then and nothing now. None of that will be touched upon outside of the website. The most I can see EM's story amounting to is him following in Sonic's footsteps and glowing purple.

Well, that's what I'm working from. They said it on the website and that's all we've got so until proven otherwise I'll assume Eggman went to Lost Labyrinth/built Mad Gear for a reason.

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Kind-of excited about this, being a huge fan of Metal Sonic and all. Metal Sonic is just plain cool. XP

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But I also kinda wonder now, if Episode Metal will have any Bosses. It's been said by other people already that it would be a bit daft for Metal Sonic to fight Eggman in his boss machines from Episode 1, but at the same time I don't really get the impression that there would be any brand new bosses created just for Metal Sonic. So I kinda wonder if Metal Sonic will just have stages and no more.

I know its already been redone in Generations, but I'd love to have the first act kick off with a Metal vs Sonic race where you're playing as Metal and you're doomed to lose no matter what. Only issue would be Sonic's model, because if they use modern Sonic in a CD flashback stage, it would cause much fan rage.

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I know its already been redone in Generations, but I'd love to have the first act kick off with a Metal vs Sonic race where you're playing as Metal and you're doomed to lose no matter what. Only issue would be Sonic's model, because if they use modern Sonic in a CD flashback stage, it would cause much fan rage.

Meh, they already did that in the flashback from Amy's story in Sonic Adventure technically (as inaccurate as that flashback was). Tails' flashback as well.

I mean, yeah it would cause fan rage, but only the stupid ones, and we know they don't actually have feelings.

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Only issue would be Sonic's model, because if they use modern Sonic in a CD flashback stage, it would cause much fan rage.

Well, they did it a decade ago in Sonic Adventure.

Got ninja'd. XP

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I'd have absolutely no problem with another edition of the race/battle between Sonic and Metal on Stardust Speedway. It'd be a nice way to lead into Episode Metal's events (rather than just doing a flashback), and could serve as a chance to show what actual differences there is between both Sonic and Metal Sonic's playstyles.

And the fans are gonna rage anyway if they do a flashback to Metal being beaten anyway, since as we've seen Metal Sonic is found unconscious in his Modern form, so they may as well run full steam with it (though if they gave either character the Homing Attack for that battle, then it may get worse...)

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Well, that's what I'm working from. They said it on the website and that's all we've got so until proven otherwise I'll assume Eggman went to Lost Labyrinth/built Mad Gear for a reason.

They said the same sort of stuff on the website when it launched back in 2010. Like "Eggman began his latest research in the remains of this labyrinth" and the entire messed up S3K story. Any story is clearly not relevant to the game. EM will probably ignore all that just like E1 did and E2 very likely will.

I know its already been redone in Generations, but I'd love to have the first act kick off with a Metal vs Sonic race where you're playing as Metal and you're doomed to lose no matter what. Only issue would be Sonic's model, because if they use modern Sonic in a CD flashback stage, it would cause much fan rage.

I'd love this, for the same reason I was happy to see Modern Metal in the Stardust Speedway pic. It basically means that the the only difference between Classic and Modern is design, not age or any other such nonsense.

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I wonder if Eggrobo will return for the role of boss, if there indeed is bosses. They are the only robots in the series that are show to have the ability to fly Eggman's mechas, probably since they're designed after him.

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I wonder if Eggrobo will return for the role of boss, if there indeed is bosses. They are the only robots in the series that are show to have the ability to fly Eggman's mechas, probably since they're designed after him.

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Why would Metal fight off Egg Robo anyway? And the nne from S3K that Knuckles fought was destroyed by Mecha.

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I forgot about Mecha, thanks for the reminder. And I was thinking on why as well, but I can't think of any huge reason or alternative. Unless we have some character battle like Metal fights Sonic or Tails or something like that.

Fighting Tails instead could be awesome, he could also make some machines to try to stop Metal Sonic :P

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Fighting Tails instead could be awesome, he could also make some machines to try to stop Metal Sonic tongue.png

...That would actually be pretty fitting too, since it's mentioned that Tails had a whole "behind the scenes" role in Episode 1. If it turned out that he was actually busy fending of Metal Sonic while Sonic took on Eggman himself, it'd be pretty neat. It'd also maybe explain why Metal Sonic saw it fit to steal Tails' rocket from Episode 1 (you know, beyond being a prick). tongue.png

It's just a pity that can't really be true, since it Tails was fending of Metal Sonic it would've been him that got the extra episode instead. Still fun to imagine though. :V

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Maybe during Episode 1, after Sonic finished blowing through the levels, Tails reprogrammed the remaining Badniks to prevent Eggman from taking back the areas. It'd explain why Metal is destroying Badniks. (Then again, you'd also have to explain why there are still tiny animals inside of them. Maybe they're piloting them instead of powering them? Either that, or Tails is secretly sadistic. :P)

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Maybe at the beginning, Eggman revives Metal because while searching Little Planet again, he finds him and decides to use him for his plan in Ep.2. However Metal is pissed about being forgotten and left there for so long (kinda like Omega, also let me point out that technically, it was Eggman who killed Metal Sonic in CD) so he disobeys Eggman and goes through Ep.1 trying to find and destroy the Doctor.

Then at the end either Eggman re-captures him and programs him to obey, or Eggman convinces him to work together and destroy the common enemy, Sonic and Tails.

Thats the only way I can really see the story working, plus it would allow Metal to kill some badniks and fight Eggman.

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it was Eggman who killed Metal Sonic in CD)

Well actually, Metal Sonic got hit by the door way before Eggman came through on his Egg Car Blaster, so it was actually Metal Sonic hitting the door at that speed that killed him

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So it wouldn't be consistent at all. Metal Sonic usually slides all over the place, but if he has E1 physics he'll have a top-notch breaking system.

...oh

I guess I got too adjusted to having to hold the d-pad for everything. Damn crappy ass game >=(

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If they do or did a Stardust speedway boss I don't think their going to use the generations visuals. The reason i say that is because they literally took the generations version of SS and put it in this. so unless they completely redo the stage i doubt it would happen.

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I'm confused. You say they use the Generations SS assets...but say they won't? Or are you meaning they won't take the way the boss fight worked from Generations and use it here?

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Not just pre-rendered graphics, pre-rendered from a different game. Cheeeaaaap! EM would seem a lot more worthwhile is it was made to E2 standards visually.

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Don't know if this has been posted or if the information is already known.

Near to the end of that interview. The rep confirms episode metals exact length, what stages will be in it (when you find out which ones you also learn about their 'design').

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Okay, so basically confirms that no Stardust Speedway except in cutscenes and Casino Street will appear.

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