Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed...!

[Lady Soniko]

I can't beat any expert ghosts on this game no matter who i pick, or how flawlessly i traverse the track in the quickest way, am i doing something wrong? how the fuck do i shave another second off my best time on sunshine tour to beat these ghosts? this is giving me a headache, i've only beat the expert Rogue's Landing ghost!

[Jango]

I can't beat any expert ghosts on this game no matter who i pick, or how flawlessly i traverse the track in the quickest way, am i doing something wrong? how the fuck do i shave another second off my best time on sunshine tour to beat these ghosts? this is giving me a headache, i've only beat the expert Rogue's Landing ghost!

Sumo crew are machines I remember trying to beat the Naughty Dog staff/platinum ghosts in Crash 3 and CTR, Jesus, these guys not only make games, they are insane players too heh

Edited November 26, 2012 by Jingle

[Lady Soniko]

and after saying this I just beat the temple trouble one *sigh*

AND Seaside Hill ¬__¬

A-And Carrier Zone! .///.;

Edited November 26, 2012 by Gum/ Super Soniko

[Badnik Mechanic]

I can't beat any expert ghosts on this game no matter who i pick, or how flawlessly i traverse the track in the quickest way, am i doing something wrong? how the fuck do i shave another second off my best time on sunshine tour to beat these ghosts? this is giving me a headache, i've only beat the expert Rogue's Landing ghost!

Pick Sonic + Speed mod and do this...

First of all, do a lap of the course and keep your boost. Just as you're crossing the line, use the boost and you'll instantly be given another one when you cross the line. However you'll also be boosting at max speed.

The key to winning Sunshine Tour is the very first turn. When you need to do a drift and turn incredibly sharply, so you fly around the bend as tightly as possible (so experiment with when to take your hand off the gas and when to apply it again.

If you have done it right, you will be ahead of the staff ghost. From this moment on... DO EXACTLY what the staff ghost would do and he will never catch you. Also on one of the long straights you can even use your boost to get further ahead as I find the staff ghost on this one doesn't ever use it's boost.

And try starlight carnival with Metal Sonic + Genesis mod, if you hit every boost pad and do risks boosts for the space bit, chances are you'll destroy the staff ghost.

Also if you have the DLC, Outrun Bay is an incredibly easy course to get expert times on. No really it is.

[CallieMacN]

Eggman with standard stats is pretty good for beating the expert ghosts I found, he's quite popular on the leaderboards so I suggest trying him. Some expert ghosts do require alot of patience, (Billy Hatcher's level is pure evil) but eventually you'll beat them

P.S. It does kinda suck that you can't see what mods people are using on the leaderboards, would of helped me out a lot.

Edited November 26, 2012 by CallieMacN

[Ferr]

I wonder if S0L can talk to us a llitle about how the last character was created.

Dunno if still can be considered an spoiler.

[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

Ok so, I know some of you guys are following the news on the sega forums, but thought I would go ahead and throw it up here for anyone who is interested, or new comers, Whoever is wondering what petitions are official. Also, this is (as far as I know) the final list, and threw the signature numbers on there, was convient, and I thought they might be of interest

TB

Vectorman (1111 votes ) http://www.change.or...g-transformed-2

Ristar (991 Votes) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Alis Landale (384 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Bonanza Bros (202 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Ryo (2451 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Segata Sanshiro (2443) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Axel Stone (519 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Blaze Fielding (487 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Billy Hatcher (608 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Arle Nadja (285 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Amitie (149 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Kazuma (268 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Sketch Turner (261 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Jacky Bryant (99 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Rag Rappy (134 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Spiral Knight (94 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Ecco The Dolphin (55 ) http://www.change.or...g-transformed-2

Nack the Weasel/Fang the Sniper (98 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Rob Kent

Opa Opa (292 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

ToeJam & Earl (801 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Space Harrier (225 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Phantom R (421 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

ChuChus (238 ) http://www.change.or...g-transformed-2

Bayonetta (1098 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Sakura Shinguji (323 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Hatsune Miku (2445 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Welkin Gunther (332 ) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Selvaria Bles (406) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Ash (307) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Aika for ASRT general (45) http://www.change.or...ing-transformed

Aika for DLC? (3) http://www.change.or...ed-aika-for-dlc

TB is the one mainly running it, I believe, but might(but unlikely) be wrong, but I believe Rob Kent was helping him. far as I know any other petitions by other people are invalid, and will not go towards the compeition, hopes this clears up things for some of you.

Edited November 26, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik

[Autosaver]

Where is Bayonetta?

[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

Where is Bayonetta?

second spoiler, however dont forget about characters like Vectorman, Sketch Turner, and Nack the weasel/Fang the sniper(depends on locality)

Edited November 26, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik

[S0L]

TB is the one mainly running it, I believe, but might(but unlikely) be wrong, but I believe Rob Kent was helping him. far as I know any other petitions by other people are invalid, and will not go towards the compeition, hopes this clears up things for some of you.

I'm sure you're only trying to help, but if people are voting for characters we're not going to disqualify any of them. Bear in mind the goal originally was to get at least 3 characters with 1000 votes each. We're way past that now and I'm not sure if I'll take any character over 1000 votes or the top three, but certainly, I'm not discounting anyone at this stage.

When the polls end and the discussion starts - then we'll have to consider many things - but don't let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet!

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S0L

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[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

I'm sure you're only trying to help, but if people are voting for characters we're not going to disqualify any of them. Bear in mind the goal originally was to get at least 3 characters with 1000 votes each. We're way past that now and I'm not sure if I'll take any character over 1000 votes or the top three, but certainly, I'm not discounting anyone at this stage.

When the polls end and the discussion starts - then we'll have to consider many things - but don't let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet!

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S0L

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got it S0L, I was mainly refering to a handful of characters (like tails doll) that were added by random people, and only have a handful of votes. also trying to rally some votes for these guys, its been harder than I thought to rally the votes we need for Fang/Nack than I thought, appearently the sonic community can be quite hard to mobilize

and sketch turner needs votes as well

Edited November 26, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik

[Badnik Mechanic]

I'm sure you're only trying to help, but if people are voting for characters we're not going to disqualify any of them. Bear in mind the goal originally was to get at least 3 characters with 1000 votes each. We're way past that now and I'm not sure if I'll take any character over 1000 votes or the top three, but certainly, I'm not discounting anyone at this stage.

So.... if I wanted to then, could I start a pol here on SSMB, and even if the votes didn't hit 1000 (which they won't theres no way), they could still be considered to be put forward due to the whole eligibility thing. For instance, some characters on 'the list' can't ever be put into the game for several reasons, so others that might now have the 1000 votes might get selected based on if they're eligible to be in the game for one reason or another.

If any of that makes sense?

[JezMM]

I wonder if S0L can talk to us a llitle about how the last character was created.

Dunno if still can be considered an spoiler.

Considering Wii U, 3DS and Vita players still haven't got the darn game yet, yes it'd still be considered a spoiler. =U

[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

So.... if I wanted to then, could I start a pol here on SSMB, and even if the votes didn't hit 1000 (which they won't theres no way), they could still be considered to be put forward due to the whole eligibility thing. For instance, some characters on 'the list' can't ever be put into the game for several reasons, so others that might now have the 1000 votes might get selected based on if they're eligible to be in the game for one reason or another.

If any of that makes sense?

from my point maybe, however it proably wouldnt be considered by the guys on the sega forums, who are the ones who are putting together the final entries, also why dont we just try, and go full steam, try to get votes for some of the good lagging characters who really need them?

for example, Sketch turner is stalled right below 250, and he still needs a ton of votes to make the 1000 signature mark, and a lot of those would proably come if he was properly advertised, same with Fang, he just got added 2,3 days ago, and he is almost at 100, but needs a lot more as well, I would really like to think that the sonic fanbase in general should be able to mobilize on this

also Ristar passed the 1000 signature point

Edited November 26, 2012 by Mandobardanjusik

[Detective Shadzter]

Considering Wii U, 3DS and Vita players still haven't got the darn game yet, yes it'd still be considered a spoiler. =U

And PC players. Oh, and that iOS version we've heard about

Also, am I the only one who's sick of seeing all of this stuff about character petitions?

[S0L]

got it S0L, I was mainly refering to a handful of characters (like tails doll) that were added by random people, and only have a handful of votes. also trying to rally some votes for these guys, its been harder than I thought to rally the votes we need for Fang/Nack than I thought, appearently the sonic community can be quite hard to mobilize

and sketch turner needs votes as well

If it's in that thread - and TB is happy to put it in the first post, I'm taking it as agreed with the people running it. Bear in mind I set the challenge - all I want is accurate usable data by the 1st of December.

The challenge was also a test to see if the SEGA community (and I mean SEGA and not Sonic!) could pull together and agree on some characters to give to me to drive a discussion with SEGA. We were seeing lot of posts with lists of 20 characters in them - and that' just useless. If I can go to SEGA and go 'The fans have worked together and agreed and here are their top characters they'd like to see' then it's a different story altogether.

But... you have to pull together. If you spend all your time arguing over which characters are valid, or doing splinter polls, you're just divided and weak. The whole aim was to get you to pull together, we're seeing that for some characters certainly, which is why they are winning

So.... if I wanted to then, could I start a pol here on SSMB, and even if the votes didn't hit 1000 (which they won't theres no way), they could still be considered to be put forward due to the whole eligibility thing. For instance, some characters on 'the list' can't ever be put into the game for several reasons, so others that might now have the 1000 votes might get selected based on if they're eligible to be in the game for one reason or another.

If any of that makes sense?

See the above

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S0L

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[Shawshank Redemption]

Everyone wants Vectorman to finally get in the game, that is pretty well shown in the poll.

That disturbing lolita girl should not be considered, ever.

[FourCartridge]

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?409253-Semi-official-fire-questions-at-SUMO-and-get-vague-responses-thread&p=7687230&viewfull=1#post7687230

2. We don't show a speedo as we have plenty going off on screen as it is, you care about your position, lap, weapons, overall position with other players and all the scoring going off. Besides, we'd have to fake the speed on a speedo as you're actually travelling at over 180mph. Real world scales don't mean much in this game

[Heybunny]

Pick Sonic + Speed mod and do this...

First of all, do a lap of the course and keep your boost. Just as you're crossing the line, use the boost and you'll instantly be given another one when you cross the line. However you'll also be boosting at max speed.

The key to winning Sunshine Tour is the very first turn. When you need to do a drift and turn incredibly sharply, so you fly around the bend as tightly as possible (so experiment with when to take your hand off the gas and when to apply it again.

If you have done it right, you will be ahead of the staff ghost. From this moment on... DO EXACTLY what the staff ghost would do and he will never catch you. Also on one of the long straights you can even use your boost to get further ahead as I find the staff ghost on this one doesn't ever use it's boost.

I am still getting destroyed on this and after what happened earlier, I'm on the verge of giving up hope of beating these ghosts. The advice is very helpful, but on the occasions I ace that first set of turns, I stay ahead slightly until the final stretch and the ghost somehow overtakes me, so I'm either failing hard or it's boosting somehow. I'm not sure if I should be trying to drift boost through those last two turns before the end or not, since I get passed either way.

I mean, this is the closest I got to beating it:

We pretty much crossed the finishing line at the same time, but yeah. I've been trying to replicate that time for like 4-5 hours now and I just can't do it.

Been a long time since a game gave me hand cramps and I'm sure I'm developing a callus on my left trigger finger.

But yeah, I suck at this.;

EDIT: LOL Beat!

Edited November 26, 2012 by Heybunny

[FourCartridge]

EDIT: LOL Beat!

Outta curiosity I crunched the numbers for the first ASR on Roulette Road and came up with 242mph. No joke.

[Heybunny]

Outta curiosity I crunched the numbers for the first ASR on Roulette Road and came up with 242mph. No joke.

Sheesh - and here I thought that going down the M1 at 75 was a rush.

[Coral]

I am still getting destroyed on this and after what happened earlier, I'm on the verge of giving up hope of beating these ghosts. The advice is very helpful, but on the occasions I ace that first set of turns, I stay ahead slightly until the final stretch and the ghost somehow overtakes me, so I'm either failing hard or it's boosting somehow. I'm not sure if I should be trying to drift boost through those last two turns before the end or not, since I get passed either way.

I mean, this is the closest I got to beating it:

We pretty much crossed the finishing line at the same time, but yeah. I've been trying to replicate that time for like 4-5 hours now and I just can't do it.

Been a long time since a game gave me hand cramps and I'm sure I'm developing a callus on my left trigger finger.

But yeah, I suck at this.;

EDIT: LOL Beat!

I just attempted this a minute ago. Took awhile but here's what I did. I used Eggman with his console mod. Did everything the Sumo ghost did except for that final long, dark hallway. I used my boost there. After that, I drifted on the very last turn before you exit the hallway, not at the beginning of the S curve. That gave me enough speed to overtake the ghost! It was close though. My winning time was 48.121. ^^; Maybe you could try that? Eggman is pretty quick and has pretty great overall stats.

Edited November 27, 2012 by Coral

[KrazyBean]

I've been tackling some Time Attack ghosts today...wow, you guys don't PLAY AROUND! This is hard stuff!

[Coral]

It's not so bad. It really helps if you end your previous lap with a boost to start the new one at full speed.

Been doing world tour since I been mostly ignoring it. At 156 stars now and just did some expert pursuits. I noticed in a lot of them, the tank doesn't shoot a missile to the very far right of the stage. He shoots all the way to the left side's guardrail but not the right. Been exploiting that so badly!

[Detective Shadzter]

Game was rated on the 21st of this month in Korea for one or both of the Sony platforms.

http://www.grb.or.kr/Statistics/Popup/Pop_StatisticsDetails.aspx?1a7eb47eaef5f32a038c09d2215f2617cecd98f227eaeaf17ed258610ac557e8