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Ok so things are getting a little interesting...

 

We know it's not for consoles.

 

We know it's NOT what people are expecting... but... yeah... This is from the Steam forums.

 

You see, I know there will be controversy around this one, I fully expect it. What's going to be amazing though is something else I have planned that is rather secret. That's going to be a full on popcorn moment but you might have a small wait.

I'll probably get into trouble, but it'll be worth it :)

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S0L

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May I share your popcorn S0L?

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Wish I hadn't entered the SEGA Forums discussion about the PC exclusivity - grand to see a certain Banjo fan hasn't gotten a grip yet.

 

Anywho, I'm not terribly enthused about the PC exclusivity - I have the PC version, but it's kinda gutting to see console owners continue to be neglected. I can see why the PC exclusive characters are exclusive, and hell, as for the characters themselves they're alright, but yet more ignorance towards consoles isn't doing SUMO any favours in the reputation department.

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I'm surprised he even has any popcorn left after the General Winter and Willemus stuff. Arguing over someone who acts like an entitled little fuck with the DLC for this game is honestly the worst thing I've ever experienced.

"Oh no, these new characters are taking up spots for Segata and Ryo, this is just making the game shittier."

 

Jesus H. Christ.

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I'm surprised he even has any popcorn left after the General Winter and Willemus stuff. Arguing over someone who acts like an entitled little fuck with the DLC for this game is honestly the worst thing I've ever experienced.

"Oh no, these new characters are taking up spots for Segata and Ryo, this is just making the game shittier."

 

Jesus H. Christ.

 

Aye - because characters/'characters' from Skies of Arcadia, Shinobi, Space Channel 5, After Burner, Daytona USA, NiGHTS, Super Monkey Ball, Alex Kidd, Golden Axe, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, Samba De Amigo, and more doesn't constitute a varied and diverse roster, apparently. 

 

Going off topic anywho so I'll cull it here - regardless, I am anticipating this announcement (because thankfully, at least SUMO optimised the PC port for this unlike every other Sonic game ever), but I just wish consoles wouldn't keep getting the blind eye so much.

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I can totally understand why the PC exclusive DLC characters were PC only. It makes sense. They are from PC exclusive properties and one not even a Sega brand so they would have had next to no control over where the property holder wanted it released.

But if the new DLC is a multi format character and its still PC only then yeah, there will be a lot of controversy, complaints, and a pretty big show on the Sega forums I imagine. Popcorn will be needed.

Still wondering why they waited so late in the game to do DLC tho. The more time passes the less people will care or buy it. Except the major fans who will be ever present. You lose the general market that tends to move on not long after they beat the game and a few months after release. Its kinda shooting your prospective sales in the foot isn't it?

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Still wondering why they waited so late in the game to do DLC tho. The more time passes the less people will care or buy it. Except the major fans who will be ever present. You lose the general market that tends to move on not long after they beat the game and a few months after release. Its kinda shooting your prospective sales in the foot isn't it?

 

Yes is true that this game is a great game on its own, the truth is that a majority of the audience of this game is Sega fans, that probably follow the game and its upgrades. Still I see your point but I think that the general audience is not the intended market for this dlc. And besides we still don't know if this paid dlc or not. 

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It most likely will be paid DLC, the previous characters were downloaded through a free patch.

 

And seeing as the new DLC entry is in the same section as the Metal Sonic/Outrun DLC, i'm inclined to believe it will be paid DLC.

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This is the moment to hate SEGA. Not releasing any DLC on consoles is their choice, not Sumo's. Seriously SEGA, I know it's easier, cheaper and even faster to release on Steam, but for god's sake, you released a ton of DLC for Sonic 06... Transformed was a huge sucess on consoles, especially the PS3 and Wii U versions, so why this decision? I don't get it. S0L?

 

Sumo will probably announce their next game.

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I'd like to see it be a new track, even though that's unlikely. To me, the tracks are far more important as far as content goes. 

While I would like a new track I don't think we will see one, since if I'm not mistaken SOL said that they wouldn't do any dlc tracks besides the outrun one.

 

So I'm really curious to know what the surprise is.

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This is the moment to hate SEGA. Not releasing any DLC on consoles is their choice, not Sumo's. Seriously SEGA, I know it's easier, cheaper and even faster to release on Steam, but for god's sake, you released a ton of DLC for Sonic 06... Transformed was a huge sucess on consoles, especially the PS3 and Wii U versions, so why this decision? I don't get it. S0L?

 

Sumo will probably announce their next game.

 

Keeping in mind that the content for 06 probably came out very close to the release of the game. Now with the game being a year old, I'm betting they don't see putting any of the DLC on consoles as worth it. And also the fact that the DLC for 06 probably wasn't even that big, and anything for Transformed will probably have a much larger filesize.

 

Like you said, it costs money for them to put any of that on the PS3 and 360. (Don't know about Wii U, or even PS3 really, but I know that's the case for the 360) It's much safer to put it out on PC, where there's a much more active community and also where you can put it out without paying any money.

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I'd like to just throw out something.

 

Could the controversial decision be... the game is being made free to play?

 

Well I'm sat here trying to think what it could be thats going to cause such a reaction, and the only thing I can think of, aside from a few die hard fans getting angry over a PC exclusive inclusion... would be the idea that the game is free to play and the DLC characters are at a premium?

 

Thoughts?

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I could deal with that. I forget if I've actually bought it on Steam or not, but still. The game is utterly fantastic and we know it's sold really on all platforms. I'd have no problem with it adopting an F2P model a year on. Rather out there as a guess though.

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I'd like to just throw out something.

 

Could the controversial decision be... the game is being made free to play?

 

Well I'm sat here trying to think what it could be thats going to cause such a reaction, and the only thing I can think of, aside from a few die hard fans getting angry over a PC exclusive inclusion... would be the idea that the game is free to play and the DLC characters are at a premium?

 

Thoughts?

Switching it to an F2P game would be a really strange choice to me. They would have to add a lot of new content in order to justify that type of move. Other F2P games on the service, like Team Fortress 2 and Dota have hundreds of purchasable items that are added in relatively frequent updates, and the games have enormous install bases. Obviously they wouldn't have to put out as much content as Valve does, but if they were going to make the game free, they would have to find some special way to make the 'premium' edition of the game enticing, no?

 

It's certainly an interesting guess, though. 

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The only thing is, I can't think of anything that would be considered really controversial, unless they're going to add all the characters from that fan list as PC only... that would do it. Though S0L has said that nobody guessed it so I'm not sure if it is that.

 

The only things I can think of that I think would generate a 'reaction' would be as follows.

 

1: All the DLC is PC exclusive, and it's the top few characters from that pol.

 

2: All the DLC are characters nobody has ever asked for (though I don't really see this as being a big deal at all since any new content is great in my book.

 

3: World Tour mode is getting revamped in line with the mobile versions of the game.

 

4: Free to Play (though if they could support this, I personally think this idea is brilliant).

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"Free to play" meaning that you don't even have to buy the game in the first place. You just download it and start playing while certain features and/or characters are put up at a premium price.

 

Stuff like Tekken Revolution, Dead or Alive 5: Core Fighters, etc.

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Free to play? I don't understand that...

 

The game has always been "Free to Play" (except XBL)...

 

Sonic Dash is free to play. You don't have to pay a single penny to purchase it, but it will include micro-transactions for all sorts of things to nickel and dime you, probably for content that would previously have been available just for buying the game. Also, ads likely.

 

ASRT at present isn't free to play since you have to pay for it initially.

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By controversial, perhaps they mean that the next All Stars Racing game will be coming soon and replacing Transformed? Fans loved the game, so replacing it, say, next year would be controversial.

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>implying F2P is a bad thing

 

What if it's a Space Marine from Warhammer 40K? Relic had the license for those games, so technically now they are SEGA properties.

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Sonic Dash is free to play. You don't have to pay a single penny to purchase it, but it will include micro-transactions for all sorts of things to nickel and dime you, probably for content that would previously have been available just for buying the game. Also, ads likely.

 

ASRT at present isn't free to play since you have to pay for it initially.

Which begs the question; if Sonic Transformed did go Free-to-Play, what would they nickel and dime anyone for? They would have to add a ton of new characters and features unless they wanted to start locking existing content to push micro-transactions, which nobody would go for.

 

And actually, most F2P games have you repeatedly buying content over periods of time, so unless they plan on supporting this game for a good long while, I don't see why they would adopt that model.

 

By controversial, perhaps they mean that the next All Stars Racing game will be coming soon and replacing Transformed? Fans loved the game, so replacing it, say, next year would be controversial.

Unless I'm wrong, didn't something appear in the Steam registry as DLC for Transformed? And currently, S0L hinted that this wasn't coming to consoles, so both of those point away from it being a new game.

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Despite not getting console DLC, this game is still a lot of fun. I always enjoy it every time I play. It's really a shame SEGA's decision, but I think we'll have to live with that.

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Ruh roh.

 

ASRT's being featured in a new Humble Bundle themed around the Yogscast.

 

Apparently featuring 'charity' DLC.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=91881388&postcount=214

 

Please, for the love of fucking everything, let this be a troll.

 

Yogscast are insanely popular though. They've got a game on the way, and frequently hit the Youtube front page. It would not surprise me, and fits with the PC only teasing from S0L.

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