Sonic-related pet peeves?

[Wraith]

Just now, Blue Blood said:

I still think applying specific ages to the Sonic cast is kinda dumb and unnecessary any way. They don't actually make sense in  any context within the series. Amy is an army general at age 12 in Forces? Charmy is a private detective and sent to infiltrate a dilapidated military facility at age 6, and Cream is supposed be the same age? Lol sod that. Personally, I just tend to disregard the ages entitling because they don't really mean nor add to anything. Some of the cast are kids, the majority aren't, and you can just sort gauge relative ages. Whether Sonic is 15 or 16 really doesn't matter. What birthday was he celebrating in Generations anyway?

Sonic characters are allowed to do all of those things st young ages because the series is at least partially a power fantasy for young kids. It makes sense in that context. 

[StaticMania]

37 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Knuckles being younger than Sonic is like the hardest pill for me to swallow and I can't place why.

It's probably because he's taller.

[Blue Blood]

11 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Sonic characters are allowed to do all of those things st young ages because the series is at least partially a power fantasy for young kids. It makes sense in that context. 

In that context and that context alone. When you look at three way that the series flip flops around its atmosphere and tone between sunshine and blue skies or torturing Sonic for months in solitary confinement etc, it loses all meaning.

[Wraith]

2 minutes ago, Blue Blood said:

Then you look at three way that the series flip flops around its atmosphere and tone between sunshine and blue skies or torturing Sonic for months in solitary confinement etc, it loses all meaning.

I'm not sure what that has to do with their ages. They're kids who go on larger than life adventures because that's who the audience is and what they want to see.

[Blue Blood]

1 hour ago, Wraith said:

I'm not sure what that has to do with their ages. They're kids who go on larger than life adventures because that's who the audience is and what they want to see.

Isn't this topic about pet peeves? I.e. those little niggles you might have that you recognise aren't necessarily the most important nor logical things but still bother you just a touch regardless? Character ages aren't a big deal. They irk me slightly regardless of how much sense they do or don't make in whatever context, but ultimately I don't care.

It's hard to see that applying specific age numbers to the characters really adds anything, and they kind of contradict each other when you look at them. They also don't impact anything except character bios that have virtually nothing to do with the games or other media. So it's a personal pet peeve.

[DabigRG]

3 hours ago, Wraith said:

Knuckles being younger than Sonic is like the hardest pill for me to swallow and I can't place why.

 

2 hours ago, StaticMania said:

It's probably because he's taller.

Probably because it's what you've known for the longest.

Also, because he's usually portrayed as being more logical, deeper voiced, and associated with older things.

[Foxthefox1000]

I don't like how the series treats a lot of it's characters.

That's it.

Also, I'd like a little consistency, Sonic Team. 

[DabigRG]

21 hours ago, Blue Blood said:

I still think applying specific ages to the Sonic cast is kinda dumb and unnecessary any way. They don't actually make sense in  any context within the series. Amy is an army general at age 12 in Forces? Charmy is a private detective and sent to infiltrate a dilapidated military facility at age 6, and Cream is supposed be the same age? Lol sod that. Personally, I just tend to disregard the ages entitling because they don't really mean nor add to anything. Some of the cast are kids, the majority aren't, and you can just sort gauge relative ages. Whether Sonic is 15 or 16 really doesn't matter. What birthday was he celebrating in Generations anyway?

Isn't that a couple of things in fiction, though?

[Splash the Otter]

A (relatively) recent one for me is people making "weak" jokes about Infinite. He isn't weak, he just had the misfortune of going up against the most OP character in the series.

[DabigRG]

25 minutes ago, Splash the Otter said:

A (relatively) recent one for me is people making "weak" jokes about Infinite. He isn't weak, he just had the misfortune of going up against the most OP character in the series.

They make weak jokes because he both infamously denies the notion and yet later calls himself as well as others that.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Infinite is actually solidly in the upper tier of powerful characters. The only reason Sonic even beat him was through the power of friendship and teamwork. Same for Eggman at the end.

[Skull Leader]

The Chaotix NOT being together in racing spinoff games. D:<

Blaze being drawn in the comics with a rack. I'm looking at you Tracy Yardley. >.>

Fan art related: modern Amy with quills on her back. That one design change is such a visceral betrayal to the original design. >~<*

[Multikaris]

20 minutes ago, Skull Leader said:

The Chaotix NOT being together in racing spinoff games. D:<

Blaze being drawn in the comics with a rack. I'm looking at you Tracy Yardley. >.>

Fan art related: modern Amy with quills on her back. That one design change is such a visceral betrayal to the original design. >~<*

Imagine a Blaze drawn by Jay Axer, Steven Butler,  or worse, someone like Mateus Santuloco or A.C. Farley...

[DabigRG]

56 minutes ago, Skull Leader said:

 

Blaze being drawn in the comics with a rack. I'm looking at you Tracy Yardley. >.>

Oh-hoho, you're that guy!

[Shadowlax]

On 2/17/2019 at 4:28 AM, Blue Blood said:

Sonic is a great runner, but when reaching his highest possible speeds as Super Sonic he just flies and doesn't use his legs at all. It doesn't make much sense that he just suddenly stops running, but I can let it by simply because of the rule of cool. It certainly gets across the idea of Super Sonic being incredibly powerful very well. But where I have to draw the line is Shadow's boosting animation. He already wears hover skates which are "rule of cool" enough as it is (plus he's got all his teleporting shenanigans and everything else), so why does he completely give up on any leg movement at all when he boosts? It's really just a minor pet peeve, but hey that's what this thread is for. I just wish that he kept his infinitely cooler and more unique skating animation over boring flight. 

Also on a similar note, Sonic's running drift in Unleashed looks way better than his ball drift in Generations. There's a place for both of them though, and I quite like seeing Sonic curl up for brief periods because that's his schtick.

I mean he flies when he first meets eggman. if i had to hazard a Guess, he's literally using chaos control to boost out of his shoes... and then says screw it and enters a higher speed boosting his whole body? I dunno its weird 

10 hours ago, Splash the Otter said:

A (relatively) recent one for me is people making "weak" jokes about Infinite. He isn't weak, he just had the misfortune of going up against the most OP character in the series.

I think its because people think he was disappointing. Less about him being weak. Like folks saying its no use, just a meme. 

3 hours ago, Foxthefox1000 said:

Infinite is actually solidly in the upper tier of powerful characters. The only reason Sonic even beat him was through the power of friendship and teamwork. Same for Eggman at the end.

He's not. He gained no powers that could stop anyone from just... punching him in the face. The story tries to bend itself to make him look strong, but in in the end characters like silver have to just forget they have powers and others have to be jailed or even dissapear for him to be threatening. That doesn't indicate a threat, that indicate someone wrote a villain who should have been a behind the scenes manipulation kind of guy. But they made him a big huge bad, and wrote a bad story by even sonic standards to make him look...well attempt to make him look threatening.

 

 

To contribute to the thread, them not using blaze's world. Use that shit

[Foxthefox1000]

Eh, I dunno. Being above Sonic consistently enough even to the point of needing help to beat him in the end? People just exaggerate him being weak for the meme.

[Splash the Otter]

Here's a new one: the fact that two of my favorite characters will never be in the Modern games.

[romeo]

Ok imma say it right now, sega needs to just make the official pairings right now and dont change em at all. These shipping wars are pissing me off, im getting harrassed for the ships i like, i can make the official pairings right now, hell i can probably make them right now and explain each. And fuck canon at this point.

Sonic & Sally - This doesnt even need an explanation, the two been friends since they were 5 and been there for each other when eggman took over and they grew naturally over the years. Thats how you develop a natural relationship

Tails & Cosmo - This one is tradgetic. The girl died and kissed tails as a ghost. They grew naturally it works i like it.

Tails & Cream - Idk its personal preference but i dont think people would be mad if this happened

Shadow & Amy - Ok first off sonamy is a crack pairing. Sonic sees her as a little sister but amy is always tryna ride his leg 24/7 it cant work, its like if naruto and sasuke fused together then hes just as rude as sasuke but acts like naruto and is shipped with sakura, thats sonic and amy. Shadow and amy on the other hand, Amy is the reincarnation of Maria, she made shadow turn good and truly replicated maria to remember his promise to her. Thats flag one. Flag two, amy started to fall in love with sonic when she used tarot cards to find her true love which appeared to be sonic, i think she actually saw shadow but she mistaken him for sonic, she did this shadow in sa2, silver in 06, it could be possible. Flag 3, i think the shadow + amy = silver theory is correct.

Knuckles & Rouge - They flirt with each other all the damn time and rouge actually gave knuckles the emeralds in sa2 and smiled and winked at him, its clear shes attracted to him

Silver & Blaze - idc if sonic 06 isn't canon anymore, sega cant even maintain their own canon. Sonic 06 is all the proof you need, but sega refuses to use blaze in a game so we cant see them interact in this new timeline but team sonic racing is out and they look to be getting along very well

There i just made the official roster that can work and makes the most sense now take notes dammit

[Your Vest Friend]

They've walked back on pretty much all romance bar Amy having a crush on Sonic (and even that's somewhat fading), so the canon the games will go with is no ships whatsoever. 

[Shadowlax]

4 hours ago, Your Vest Friend said:

They've walked back on pretty much all romance bar Amy having a crush on Sonic (and even that's somewhat fading), so the canon the games will go with is no ships whatsoever. 

This , I personally don't think there is anything inherently wrong with romance. Infact even things like MLP figured out how to do it fine, even LGBTQ stuff. But I can understand sega being weary given uh the bad comic book stuff, and them just wanting ... inoffensive non changing branding. Amy mildly likes sonic and rouge flirts with knuckles and shadow on occasion... and that's it. Which may sound boring, and I might agree.

 

However, that conversation leads into how sega is handling the franchise in general in comparison to its peers and not just video games but infinite lifespan branded multimedia IP for kids and young teens in general and how its being left behind and it may have chose the wrong time to try and be static. And that Conversation, while interesting isn't fit for this thread... or at least this topic of conversation. Though its one that will be more and more pertinent as time goes on , especially with that film coming up

[Blue Blood]

11 hours ago, romeo said:

There i just made the official roster that can work and makes the most sense now take notes dammit

No, you just made a basic fan fiction.

[batson]

On 2/20/2019 at 3:09 AM, Skull Leader said:

Blaze being drawn in the comics with a rack. I'm looking at you Tracy Yardley. >.>

Considering that, accorading to that leaked Sonic 06 production document, Blaze is actually embarassed by her flat chest, I think she herself wouldn't mind artists drawing her with a more voluptious body.

[Splash the Otter]

A big one for me recently is Sega's dedication to ruining the universe they created. Stuff like Two Worlds, the Modern/Classic split, portrayal of characters like Tails and Shadow, money not existing and so on.

[Dr. Mechano]

On 9/27/2019 at 11:33 AM, Splash the Otter said:

money not existing and so on.

Wait, does money no longer canonically exist in Sonic's world?

I always thought rings were the Sonic world's currency. You buy stuff with them, gamble with them in the various casino zones, etc.

Did some official source say money didn't exist?

[Ivo-goji]

There are dollar bills in SA2 and gold coins in Sonic Riders, so yeah money definitely exists in the real Sonic universe.  Don't know about post-Colors Diet Coke Sonic universe.

The Sonic X comic apparently has money not existing on Sonic's nameless planet so maybe this has something to do with that.