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  • People who hate on all modern games, or all classic games just because they are modern or classic.

  • Fans who hate whole games simply because Sonic's eyes went from black/gray to green.

  • Ship wars(like Sonamy vs. Sonally, despite both being from different continuities.)

  • Sonic's inability to go underwater in more new games. In Sonic 1, 2, and 3 he could go underwater like in the labyrinth and aquatic ruins zones. Sure, he can't swim very well, but at least in those games you could be underwater as long as you collected air bubbles.

Edited by colorfulzones104

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The automatic labelling of people who like or happen to prefer the Japanese voice option in the games, the Japanese designs of the classic characters and/or the Japanese storylines prior to Sonic Adventure as being weeaboo's.

This would only be so if those people's preferences for these things are solely because it's Japanese/of Japanese origin. Having an appreciation for excellent and emotive voice acting isn't being a weeaboo. Neither is having a preference for and/or liking the character designs and storylines in those old manuals.

This is no exaggeration, every single instance I've read of those pulling-up/criticising people who happen to like aspects of JP Sonic over the Western designs, stories and English VA'ing has culminated in the word "weeaboo" being thrown around without rhyme or reason, showing how much this word is misunderstood.

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I'll consider this another pet peeve of mine. This common sentiment of "Well, the Day Stages are awesome, but everything else is inexcusably terrible and you Unleashed fans can't ignore that!!!" drives me up the wall. It's like no one considers it a valid possibility that someone could actually like this game in its entirety. I like the Werehog and playing the Night stages. I find Chip enjoyable. I like the humorous tone of the game. The medal collecting is flawed, but I have found an easy and enjoyable workaround by not blazing mindlessly through the worlds, nabbing them as an indirect consequence of taking my time. I like the hub worlds, the inhabitants, and their missions. I like the art and the music. I pretty much like the whole game. I, and I would like to assume most true-blue Unleashed fans, don't ignore anything. We just happen to differ in opinion to others, and we understand why others don't like the game. But this snide implication that we're being willfully ignorant to the flaws is bullshit.

Let me put it this way: How would Colors fans like it if I assumed that they were just "ignoring" the dropped character and plot tangents, the unfitting climax, the overall shitty narrative, the slew of terrible jokes, the uninspired, blocky platforming, the context-sensitive Wisps that require no forethought or skill to use, the difficulty threshold that would allow a lobotmized dog to beat the game, and other things I personally considered flaws in justifying their like for it? I'd personally consider myself an asshole for even levelling such an assumption at them. Instead, I take it upon myself to believe that Colors fans either don't consider these things as flaws, or that other parts of the game make up for any flaws they see in the game, which is fine. I'd just love it dearly if Unleashed fans were afforded the same credibility.

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Let me put it this way: How would Colors fans like it if I assumed that they were just "ignoring" the dropped character and plot tangents, the unfitting climax, the overall shitty narrative, the slew of terrible jokes, the uninspired, blocky platforming, the context-sensitive Wisps that require no forethought or skill to use, the difficulty threshold that would allow a lobotmized dog to beat the game, and other things I personally considered flaws in justifying their like for it? I'd personally consider myself an asshole for even levelling such an assumption at them. Instead, I take it upon myself to believe that Colors fans either don't consider these things as flaws, or that other parts of the game make up for any flaws they see in the game, which is fine. I'd just love it dearly if Unleashed fans were afforded the same credibility.

This is fair, because as a Colors fan id assume that a lot of those things we "ignore" are either nonexistent (id say the narrative is formulaic, if anything) or I don't have much of a problem with them (the jokes) or not problem at all (wisps, level design, I guess everything else),

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Also, I think not only the fanbase, but the gaming community as a whole has basically tainted the franchise. Every game is met with an overwhelming amount of cynicism from both parties and it pisses me off. Yes, I get the games haven't been spectacular, but everyone talks as if Sonic has never had a good game in the 3D era at all, and he never will. It's just the amount of jaded people that's real turn off for me, and it slightly kills my excitement for any new game because the obligatory "Well this game is obviously another failure from Sonic Team" I mean god people.

This

I hate when people say "lol SEGA FAILED AGAIN THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT". It's sad that Sonic's once loyal fans want him to die now.

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Oh, wait. I've got one. The Sonic fans of YouTube. A lot will criticize peoples' Sonic-related work, calling them "stupid" and "the worst thing they've ever seen" without giving some sort of reason. Then when you click on their profile, you'll see that their videos consist of things like "Silvaze - i will always love you ~ ***" or "amy rose - call me maybe"...

k.

This can also tie in with a previous post I made on here about younger Sonic fans, as I'm gonna assume these people are under the age of 12.

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The automatic labelling of people who like or happen to prefer the Japanese voice option in the games, the Japanese designs of the classic characters and/or the Japanese storylines prior to Sonic Adventure as being weeaboo's.

This would only be so if those people's preferences for these things are solely because it's Japanese/of Japanese origin. Having an appreciation for excellent and emotive voice acting isn't being a weeaboo. Neither is having a preference for and/or liking the character designs and storylines in those old manuals.

This is no exaggeration, every single instance I've read of those pulling-up/criticising people who happen to like aspects of JP Sonic over the Western designs, stories and English VA'ing has culminated in the word "weeaboo" being thrown around without rhyme or reason, showing how much this word is misunderstood.

Word. I happen to think Junichi Kanemaru just sounds better than any of the American Sonic voice actors, so I prefer the Japanese voice settings.

Anyway, I've thought of additional peeves:

~ The size of the touch controls in the iPhone ports of Sonic games, namely S4E2. They could at least make the touch analog stick button larger so that you're given a bit of leeway when it comes to where you put your finger on the screen. Too many times have I had Sonic stop dead because my thumb moved a centimeter to the right.

~ Iizuka declaring Knuckles' Chaotix as non-canon. Yes, it's not a recurring event but it still disappointed me nonetheless, as Chaotix is a game I like.

~ Jet the Hawk, in general. (Okay, not really. Posting this cause of Nepenthe. :P)

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Whenever people call Vector an alligator. It's nothing big, it's probably because I know a lot about animals. But still I get a little bit irked when people call him an alligator.

Also I get a bit annoyed when two of my female friends (who are also big animal people) argue over whether Vector is a Nile Crocodile or a Saltwater Crocodile :lol:

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  • Ship wars(like Sonamy vs. Sonally, despite both being from different continuities.)

I NEVER understood this one...

different narrative continuities... the characters, the dynamics of the relationships, the situations, are NOT the same!

Edited by Anti Alias

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The whole notion of character seniority equalling character superiority.

No, character's predating other characters doesn't make them automatically better than them. Like characters for their personalities, appearances, abilities etc, not for how long they've been around. That notion of prizing characters for their seniority above other later-introduced characters and then deeming said later-introduced characters as being inferior because they were introduced later is such empty, prejudiced bullshit and is an amazingly shallow reason to prize/hate a character.

Edited by Verte

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It actually bugs me a bit when people say Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 have 'aged really badly'. Pesonally, I can't see it, myself. Admittedly, maybe that's just a case of playing them so much over the years that I'm used to and overlook their flaws, but still, I just can't see it. Maybe a little, but still.

I was thinking something very similar, but was afraid to say it. Having said that, there are three glitches that stick out to me (all three of which are in SA1), one on Emerald Coast, one on Final Egg, and one small one on Sky Deck...

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"Yeah but that should have been in the games to begin with." That line just really makes me mad. Okay, we get it. That was a fundamental that they finally got right. But they FINALLY got it so do you have to try and not be happy that they fixed it?

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Well, I guess it would be the fact that Sonic's friends don't serve much use anymore. If there'll be a game next time where Sonic's friends are re-established, then they'll always be known as "Sonic's Shitty Friends"

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People who draw Sonic porn on deviantART

I have had many an afternoon browsing ruined by this

Sonic porn? That's it?

Dude in this day and age, your whole childhood should be ruined due to "rule 34" by now.

Edited by ChaosSupremeSonic

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Well, I guess it would be the fact that Sonic's friends don't serve much use anymore. If there'll be a game next time where Sonic's friends are re-established, then they'll always be known as "Sonic's Shitty Friends"

Speaking of which (again), I also hate it when someone other than Sonic or Eggman appears (even if it's one of the older characters in the series like Tails), and commenters immediately declare the game "RUINED FOREVER" just because one or two of "Sonic's shitty friends" (which is sadly labeled on anyone not Sonic or Eggman) merely appeared. People are still doing this as shown by Generations, even though Sonic's friends did little in that entire game altogether. Ugh.

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