Remember That Time in 2006 When Sonic Died?

[Badnik Mechanic]

*looks at his post count*

You know, had it not been for the big forum wipe I would have reached that milestone a long time ago, however despite this, in all this time on SSMB. In the 6 years since the game came out, not once have I ever made a topic looking at this game or any specific moment from it. I’ve contributed to discussions on it, even said a small opinion on it. But not once have I made a topic looking at a specific moment from the game and looking at what it did right or wrong.

This is a topic I've wanted to do for a while. Mainly because this moment has always stuck out like a sore thumb for me yet it very rarely gets mentioned in peoples complaints about the game, so I wanted to share why I don't particually like this moment, why I don't think it works, and also what could be done to improve it.

So without further ado, for my 9000^th post on SSMB. Here we go, grab the whisky, it’s time to look at Sonic 06. Specifically, this moment.

SONIC DIES IN SONIC 06!

Sonic 06 has been out for almost 6 years, and a lot of the jokes have already been made and they keep getting made, the usual suspects are Princess Elise, Silver and... That kiss... which isn’t a kiss at all and if people continue TO SAY THAT IT IS WELL I’M GONNA *Please stand by, the minders are administering the happy pills.*

Right... calm... Continue...

If it’s not characters or... that scene at the end... it’s the technical aspects of Sonic 06 which tend to get brought up time and time again. Yet out of them all, one thing almost never gets brought up, yet it’s one of the biggest things to happen in the game and when you look at the wider picture... it’s quite a major decision to have been taken.

That being, Sonic dies. Well... technically, he’s not actually dead but... . . Shut up.

Now you need to remember why this was a big deal. Rumour had it that in Sonic 06 one character was going to die. All bets were on Blaze (which sort of happened but again not really depending on your interpretation) since we knew one plot point was the flames of disaster and had seen lots of footage of Crisis City. So when Sonic 06 came out and day 1 of release came, reports started to come in that Sonic died at one point. Many people couldn’t believe it until that infamous gif appeared which showed the scene in question followed by giant a giant ‘SONIC DIES’ sign that appears.

Yet it gets overshadowed because of how bad the game is as a whole and shortly after comes... that scene...

I hate you.

So let’s take a look at that death again. Fucking shit isn’t it? But... why? Why is it so crap? Well aside from the dodgy animation, just everything about it is wrong. But to understand why it’s so bad, you need to look at various other deaths and its own context in the game to see just why it doesn’t work, as well as what Sonic Team could have done to actually make this scene work.

If you’ve read the Archie comics thread, you might remember I said something similar when a certain French Soldier recently died... but didn’t... anyway.

What happens before this scene? The answer, not a lot, we see Mephiles holding up a chaos emerald... then we cut to Sonic & Elise walking through a field and then... Zap.

.. .. ... that’s it? That’s how Sonic dies? A shot to the back as he’s walking through a field with some girl? PISS OFF! Sonic is a hero who at the time was 15 years old! Who had conquered every continent in terms of popularity! Shown Nintendo it wasn’t immortal and even survived his own company coming out of the console market not to mention have an exceptionally loyal fan base in the millions! AND YOU KILL HIM LIKE THAT!?

No game! No! That is a cheap and pathetic death which effectively slaps every single person in the face whoever played a Sonic game and thought ‘I like this.’ You can’t kill any character like that because it’s cheap and it flies in the fact of everything we’ve seen the character do and experience in his entire history.

Take Mario for example, can you imagine the outcry if he was killed in a game by a koopa trooper popping out of a warp tube behind him and zapping him with a magic spell? How about if Nathan Drake got killed randomly whilst walking through the streets by some mugger? People would be outraged because we’ve seen these characters in more dangerous situations and even when controlling them in game we’ve seen them and caused them to survive more challenging and difficult situations.

You cannot kill any character as iconic as Sonic or who has a large following like that, people have invested too much time and love into them for it to be taken away like that, even if it’s just a trick and they come back later on, if you’re going to kill a character like Sonic or even his friends, you’d better make it one hell of a send off. They’d better go off at the top of their career because then fans can then except it better as they’ll see their hero being the best they could be before they went out.

Now let’s look at some other media to see what I mean. First example the Death of Supergirl!

Supergirl! Hooray!

For some back-story, Supergirl was going to die against an all powerful entity that wanted the destruction of the world/most of reality. Almost the entire DC universes most powerful heroes were brought into the battle, including Superman, Wonder Woman and Supergirl. Supergirl is locked in combat with the entity and is able to destroy it’s physical form, but because of being distracted by another hero she is killed by a lucky shot... however, for the pages leading up to this, she’s kicking ass! She’s effectively fist fighting with a God of destruction and winning, only for her to die because of a lucky shot. Even then, the being she’s beaten up is so weakened he has to retreat in order to heal, thus saving the world. Take a look.

Now let’s look at what’s similar to Sonic’s death in Sonic 06.

• A creature of incredible power wants to destroy the world/most of reality.
  
• Defeats the hero by a cheap/lucky shot.
  
• Friends of the hero are in shock/upset.
  
• Villain then sneaks away.
  
  But there’s one crucial difference. Super girl dies fighting, for several pages prior to this she’s in one of the most intense battles ever and she dies saving the world/most of reality. She dies being the hero fans saw her being. Despite it being a lucky shot, she died fighting and living up to the fans expectations.
  Sonic didn’t do this... he died walking through a field.
  
  Let’s take a look at another death, only this time... one from a video game.
  
  Call of Duty (insert title here).
  
  
  

  
  
  Ok, so this may make your eyes roll a tad but just stick with it. Call of Duty has done this in almost every game, however despite what you may think of the series and even these moments which are almost becoming a joke themselves. They still do them quite well which minimises fan backlash to quite a large degree.
  
  Call of Duty 4: Gaz and... that other guy die. At the end of Call of Duty 4, you are being chased on a highway being shot at, there’s a helicopter chasing you and you’re nearly safe when suddenly, you crash. There’s a slow motion effect and Gaz and... The other guy die. During the majority of the game you fight along with these characters, watching them die is quite the shock, but, they go out fighting, one of them is down to his side arm and even breaks cover to pick up a second weapon and is able to take out a few more enemies before he’s killed. Its one hell of a send-off and one hell of a scene, they die protecting you! You’ve been fighting alongside them for almost the whole game, often protecting them in some way by being in the dangerous areas, now they return the favour and pay for it with their lives. And like Sonic 06, it’s with a cheap and lucky shot.
  
  Modern Warfare 2: Soap and Roach die. Near to the end of MW2, you are playing as one of these characters and you have to infiltrate a house and then fend off against an endless stream of enemies. You then need to escape to the pickup zone. Now at the time, Soap was one of the most popular characters in the COD franchise, you played as him and saw him in some cut scenes, you were him in effect. How do Roach and Soap die? A cheap shot by someone they trusted. It’s a huge WTF moment, you don’t expect it or see it coming, it’s pretty big twist in the story.
  
  Now on normal difficulty, the build up whilst intense isn’t that hard a challenge... but what that difficulty up to veteran, the death becomes all the more shocking and expectable, mainly because you’ve just held off against what feels like an army and ran for your life. You feel that this was their high point, they wouldn’t get a grander stage than this. Even though the death is cheap, it comes right at the top of a high point in the stage and the game in terms of what the player feels and the experience of the characters.
  
  Just think back to films in which either a villain, the hero or both die at the end.
  
  Take Terminator 1 & Terminator 2 for example.
  
  

  

  Kyle Reese, shot, blown up, car crash, burnt, punched by a cyborg and he's stil ready to fight some terminaotors!

  
  
  Reese dies in the first movie... but how? First of all he gets shot and suffers a close range blast from a pipe bomb, because he was hanging out of a car at high speed on the highway throwing pipe bombs at the chasing terminator. The car then crashes and over turns several times, He’s then chased with Sara by a semi truck! He then blows up the truck! He’s then chased through a factory, collapses through exhaustion and his injuries.... BUT STILL he’s able to pick up a steel pipe and take several good shots to the T-800’s head! He then dies from a fall after he rams a pipe bomb into the T-800’s hip joint! FUCK! And they call Arnold the unstoppable one!
  
  

  

  I know now why you cry Elise... but why you are I just can't compute.

  
  
  Terminator 2, this final battle actually begins against the swat team, think about it, it starts with the terminator using the minigun on the swat, he’s then opened fire on by the LAPD and you see rounds hit him. He then goes to secure transport, he’s then opened fire on by a swat team, you see him take damage and even suffer slightly because of it. They then drive away and the T-1000 begins to open fire on them. The van crashes, the terminator is now badly damaged. They hijack a van he then hangs onto the van shooting grenades at the chasing truck. Then he jumps onto the chasing truck, is able to cause it to crash jumps off at high speed and smacks into a steel works! BUT IT’S NOT OVER! He then fights the T-1000, has his arm crushed in an industrial press... rips it off, attacks the T-1000 again! This time he is at critical damage and can’t stand, the T-1000 then puts a steel pipe through the terminator... yet he’s still not down! He pulls the pipe out of him, grabs the grenade launcher and is able to destroy the T-1000 and defeats him with a bit of a cheap shot... only two then say he himself must be destroyed... .. .. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE CRIED AT THIS SCENE!
  
  Their deaths come at the peak of their prime in the story.
  
  But before I show you the next example, lets go back to Sonic 06 again. Typically, most people play the game like this...

  • Play the Sonic story.
    
  • Play the Shadow story.
    
  • Play the Silver story.
    
  • Play the ‘last story.’
    

  Even if you assume, or if it’s possible, to play Sonic’s story last, how does that end? Like this.

  

  Ha ha ha, lets laugh!

  Sonic and Elise sat in a field laughing... erm... right... Ok maybe before this they escape the Egg Carrier but, that climax is over the moment you get to the laughing scene. The climax itself isn’t even that great, we’ve seen Sonic do that time and time again.

  Furthermore, you don’t go right into the last story, you come out of the game go through several loading screens and then various menus in order to select the last story, yet most people go into Shadow and Silvers story and play that. The build up for Sonic’s Death is, literally Sonic walking through a field.

  Even Blaze, if you want to argue that she dies in that game, has a better climax and build up than what Sonic gets.

  But you know what’s really odd about how Sonic Team got this particular scene so wrong? Because it wasn’t very long ago that they got it right. Some of you might be too young or not even Sonic fans to remember why this was such a big deal at the time, but if you don’t a bit of a history lesson.

  Presenting, what is arguably the first thing to make organised Sonic fandom rage... Shadow!

  

  Erm... no not the 90’s gladiator... this guy.

  

  Yeah... him. Back when Sonic Adventure 2 came out, Shadow had his fans and his critics, but his death at the end of SA2 was seen as being ok. Whilst some people wanted him back, the majority of the arguments were ‘who was better’ not if he should come back. Whilst there were some, the majority was just ‘who was better.’

  The bulk of the arguments about shadow came when Sonic Heroes came out and Shadow was back. The entire ending of SA2 at that point felt a bit of a cop-out at the time. Shadow for all evidence, had died. There was nothing in SA2 to suggest he had not, then when Sonic Heroes actually came out, it did nothing to clear things up.

  So why was there such a backlash to Shadows return? Well... his death in SA2 was quite well handled. No really it was. Just think back to SA 2 for a moment.

  Majority of people play as Sonic’s team first, and then Shadow, so you go into the last story with Shadow being victorious in the events of the game. So how does the Last Story build up, the Biolizard has attached itself to the front of the Arc and is now going to crash it into the Earth killing millions and causing a global catastrophe.

  Whilst a very basic fight, many people to this day still rave about it as being one of the best fights in Sonic history (I’m not sure why this is but people still go ape about it), it’s a pretty epic battle, you’re playing as both Super Sonic and Super Shadow. Heck your enemy’s full title is ‘Final Hazard: The Prototype of The Ultimate Life' But for the sake of length... I'm just gonna stick with 'The Biolizard.’ You’re effectively fighting a mad scientists attempt to create the ultimate life form. This is it, an attempt to create the peak of life and power... and you’re fighting it! But if you fail, it’s not just the end of you! It’s the end of all life on earth!

  The fight ends and instantly you see a cut scene of Shadow and Sonic flying towards the Arc, then Shadow makes a decision to ‘give them a chance to be happy’ which could be argued as being ‘save Sonic and his friends’ as well as the rest of the world. They destroy the biolizard, and stop the arc. But in the process Shadow uses all his power and begins to fall to earth and from the dialogue in the final cut scene, they’re all convinced he’s dead, there’s nothing at all to suggest otherwise. Even after the credits, no after scene suggesting he survived.

  What a way to go out of a videogame though. It was only after the popularity boom he got from this game that he was brought back, and from the SH script, it was clear they didn’t know if he should be a robot/clone/original or not, and it took his own game to explain it.

  But had SA2 been shadows last dance, what a tango to go out on... And then we go back to Sonic 06.... ‘walking through a field... zap.’

  Now... back to Sonic 06. How could Sonic team have made this scene in particular ‘better’ or at the very least, something to be proud of, despite how controversial it would have been.

  DON’T KILL HIM AT ALL!

  Ok yeah, that’s the obvious answer. But for the sake of the plot and getting Elise to cry, let’s assume the idea was ‘Sonic has to die’ what could they have done.

  Well in all the examples I’ve shown, there’s several constants. Either the character is at the peak of awesome, there’s nothing more they could do to reach that moment of grandeur again, or they have to be fighting in an epic battle that can be seen/argued as being the biggest/best moment of the story at that point.

  

  C'mon Elise, lets go for a walk... whats the worst that could happen?

  So obviously, there needed to be a better build up... not the Sunday stroll, Sonic should have actually had a fight with Mephiles, be it a boss fight, or just an awesome cut scene, they should have had a fight. The outcome is that Sonic needs to lose... but how?

  If you excuse how this is obviously going to turn into a little bit of fan fiction, I’d just like to ask you to use your imaginations a tad. Lets say that you start the last story, you see Mephiles laughing with the emerald, then he emerges in front of Sonic and Elise and they fight. Whilst Mephiles has been defeated several times in the game, the game up to this point has already shown that Mephiles is a dangerous creature who has some super powers, but we’ve not seen them fully yet.

  So why not go down the Super Girl road of deaths. Sonic fights Mephiles, and greatly weakens him. But Mephiles starts performing more and more dangerous attacks, Sonic is aware Elise is close by, so he tells her to run. At that point Mephiles delivers the deathblow, Sonic dies and Elise runs over to him.

  Now why is this different to the Sonic 06 original? Because it lets us as fans and as gamers see the hero in action against a dangerous foe, he loses and is presumably killed. Elise’s tears are also more traumatic because it’s no longer a ‘oh dear I’m crying now’ reaction because she realises she’s effectively responsible for distracting Sonic, he gets ‘zapped’ because he tried to tell her to get to safety.

  It gives her more reason to cry and makes her pain more real due to the fact she’s partly responsible instead of being a bystander as Sonic 06 currently makes her out to be. But also... Mephiles himself. If he’s been in a fight with Sonic and it was a grand one in which neither held back, Mephiles’ physical form would probably be damaged, he could then merge with Iblis and... do all that magic stuff he does in the final story.

  Not only does this make sense and gives us a potentially great fight to lead into, it also enhances Mephiles’ as a villain, his plan was always to be defeated as it was the only way he could merge with Iblis instead of simply “let us merge Iblis!” which is what currently happens. It’d make him far more cunning and calculating other than ‘Silver! That blue hedgehog bad! GET HIM!”

  So why have I gone on for so long about this particular point in the game when it obviously has bigger problems... because in terms of what dodgy story is there, this was a major plot point which could have actually worked, or at least been somewhat respectable, yet it was executed so poorly (much like the rest of the game), that it was always doomed to be a terrible scene. That said, it also has sight implications on future characters and plots.

  SA2 showed that Sonic Team were not afraid to kill off a character (who had a major role in the game I might add), but they’re unlikely to do it again or even take risks like they did with that decision to kill off Shadow (yes they brought it back but every sign suggested they originally had no plans to) due to how bad the cocked it up in Sonic 06. They did everything right with Shadows death in SA2, but with Sonic 06, they did almost the exact opposite and it went completely wrong. Even with Shadows build up, you had Crush 40’s Live and Learn at full blast, Sonic 06... there’s nothing, virtually no sound effects at all up until Sonic hits the ground. The whole scene just feels like a throw away... yet they just killed Sonic the Hedgehog!?

  Yes I’m aware it’s one plot point and not the games worst problem. But other than just saying ‘I don’t like that scene’ I wanted to show why I don’t think that scene works and not just simply dismiss it as ‘you can’t kill the main character anyway’ well no you can’t... he has to come back before the end of the game if that character is called Sonic. But I wanted to show why that scene is so bad, yet offer ideas as to how they could have made it work or at best be somewhat respectful to both the character and the fans. It’s not been the first time that the hero has died (even if they are brought back later on), and it won’t be the last, the problem is that in videogames and other media, there’s a method as to how you can do it and I wanted to show you just how whoever scripted Sonic 06 completely messed up this one plot point... however, my intentions were also to offer a solution that attempted to keep the story outcome the same, but also enhance each character in that scene based on their role. Sonic gets to act like a real hero, Elise has a deeper reason to be upset, and Mephiles wouldn’t just be a powerful enemy, but also a cunning and patient one.

  That and I didn’t want to moan about the usual things people moan about with regards to Sonic 06. Also... 9000^th post

  

[Debug Ring]

They really could have thought up a better idea than this. The death part is very insignificant other than to make Elise cry. I'm sure other ways of making Elise cry and a way of collecting the Emeralds could have been made.

I can't think of one from the top of my head but I'm sure there is a few.

[Soniman]

*9001 comments posted.

I also remember that time in 2006 where it would have been funny if I mentioned this meme.

[MegaMan_EXE]

After this post, you'll reach an OVER 9000 post count!!!

Yeah, this was a terrible time for Spikey Mcspeedster (my name for Sonic.) Not only did his 15 anniversary include that abomination, but it also butchered the original Sonic 1. Shameful time that was.

I say Sonic came back with Colors, and NOT 4 Episode 1. Colors was a nice change in pace, and was just as enjoyable as the classics. It was unique, original, and felt like the Sonic game I was looking for. Generations was also a step up, and the games have been getting some good reviews.

I can't wait to see what the next game in the series is. I hope it's awesome, and not a bastardization to the classics.

[Jack / Joker]

I'm just gonna say it. He gets stabbed up his ass hole, which goes through his crotch (seriously), causing him to derpishly slump over. It could only be in Sonic '06 couldn't it?

...and where the FUCK is my Sonic 1 Game Over theme orchestra remix?!?

[Vertekins]

The problem with Sonic in '06 is that he was the plot's bitch.

He's a catalyst. He only existed and only functioned to be used as a plot device, to bring a certain plot point to fruition. It's so fucking gratuitous and disrespectful to the character and makes you wonder just how much respect Sonic Team even had for him when they stuck two fingers up to him by having Shadow and Silver leech what is his supposed role as the main protagonist considering the game's title is his name and when they had him killed by a rip off of a rip off in such a disingenious ridiculous manner.

There is so much that could have been done to improve that scene. If they insisted that Sonic MUST die then they should've milked that plot point for all it was worth. Such as have Sonic not go down without a fight. Or have Mephiles aim at Elise knowing that Sonic would jump in the way to protect her.

This would accomplish three things;

1 - It'd make Sonic's death more noble because he'd have gone down defending Elise, showing the depths of his selflessness.

2 - It would've made Mephiles a truly magnificent bastard.

3 - It would've given Elise more character development by providing her the means of making her resolve a compelling one - Sonic sacrificed his life in her defense so she wants to pay back the favor.

Alas, the plot point of Sonic's death is made out to be a joke and a mere inconvenience for the other characters and results in the most cringeworthy moment in the series.

[Kiovle]

Oh God seriously.

That's a nice post and all, lots of detail and well thought out... but seriously.

Do we really need another thread about '06? Come on man. We all know it's a shit game in virtually every single aspect by now, at this point we're just beating a dead horse.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Kiovle

[sonfan1984]

Yeah, Sonic's death scene is pretty shit. I always thought the way Sonic would've died is by either sacrificing himself to save another or from a heated battle. The game just pisses on Sonic's character as a whole. :\

[Burnt Ash]

That was definitely a good read, and I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, even Blaze's 'death' was played out somewhat decently, but then you see Sonic's death in the game and it's like...what. There's no life in the cutscene, and to be honest, the way Sonic reacts to the purple Chaos Emerald, being all "OMG SOMETHING SHINY", and not at all being apprehensive about it is just...well odd. If they did things differently, they could have had Sonic actually fight Mephiles for once, but Mephiles, pulling an Eggman, has one final attack that actually does kill him. Anything, almost anything would have been better than that one kill scene.

[TheOcelot]

Really the only reason why Sonic died in 2006 was to allow you to play in those fucking awful stages to collect the seven chaos emeralds as Blaze, Rouge, Silver, Shadow, Tails, Amy and Omega (not in that order). Then you get to play as Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Super Silver in that confusing final boss. Then the game ends as if Sonic never died...

As from a story element I thought it was okay. Sonic dies. It showed at least that he is not invincible, that he needed his friends to save him. I liked that.

[Chooch]

I hate to be such a wet blanket about this, but honestly, we all know that death scene was total garbage. :\

There is no need for an essay with examples as to why it's shit. It's total shit. We know it's shit. End of story.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Chooch

[Semi-colon e]

The Duke's fucking death scene was better than Sonic's. You got the sad music, you got the Duke trying to protect Elise (sealing Iblis in her not withstanding), and you got the Duke's last words to Silver. And at the very very end of the game, you've got his sympathetic side as well.

Sonic's death scene is also terrible because Sonic never even MET Mephiles. He saw him for like 3 seconds after Crisis City but that's it. There's no build up when someone Sonic never directly interacted with took a pot shot. As well right it's like they have the nice CG for the stupid scene with Elise and Sonic in the forest, yet they don't even bother and use ingame graphics for Sonic's most important scene in the game? Really? Though on a side note it shows how little Sonic contributes to 06's story when his role is to get killed.

Say what you will about Adam Malkovich in Metroid: Other M, but his death scene was handled a MILLION times better than this.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Semi-colon e

[Debug Ring]

Really the only reason why Sonic died in 2006 was to allow you to play in those fucking awful stages to collect the seven chaos emeralds as Blaze, Rouge, Silver, Shadow, Tails, Amy and Omega (not in that order). Then you get to play as Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Super Silver in that confusing final boss. Then the game ends as if Sonic never died...

As from a story element I thought it was okay. Sonic dies. It showed at least that he is not invincible, that he needed his friends to save him. I liked that.

I agree here, nobody was surprised when Sonic woke from the dead, not even a "Well, that's cool". Then it was completely ignored forever.

[Badnik Mechanic]

You know... the more I think about it.

I can't actually remember having a fight with Mephiles as Sonic, I'm sure there was one, I definately remember one as Shadow. Actually now that I think about it, these are the boss fights I remember as Sonic.

Sonic Vs Silver (It's no use... I can't remember why I remember this one).

Sonic Vs that orange spider robot thing in the field. (I thought the robot was actually kinda cool)

Oh wait a third... wasn't there some kind of robot dog thing.

Would have probably made Mephiles more memorable as well as Sonic had they actually had a fight, and it ended with Sonic's not so death moment.

There is no need for an essay with examples as to why it's shit. It's total shit. We know it's shit. End of story.

Well yes we do... but you see these are the reasons why we have essays, and editorials and the like. So we can discuss and look at the reasons why we all think something or in some cases why we might disagree with something.

[Semi-colon e]

Sonic doesn't even MEET Mephiles, let alone get a boss fight. Shadow gets the two boss fights against Mephiles. Actually, Shadow gets all the glory in this game.

[Chooch]

I guess my main issue is that everything about this game has been discussed to death. Pun intended, of course.

I just don't even see the value in it.

[Azzy]

Of course it's awful, in every conceivable way, from being anti climatic and just a death scene out of nowhere, not to mention the 'revival' being cliche (among other things). But, nice wall of text, although it's odd to spend so much time analysing something that we all knew anyway...

Also 'that guy' in MW1 was Sergeant Griggs, it's Roach and Ghost that die in MW2 (Soap dies in MW3, and so did Yuri but no one cared).

Edited September 6, 2012 by Azzy

[TheOcelot]

Sonic doesn't even MEET Mephiles, let alone get a boss fight. Shadow gets the two boss fights against Mephiles. Actually, Shadow gets all the glory in this game.

Exactly. Shadow fights Mephilis twice and they are interesting boss fights. You have to work hard to beat him. Shadow also gets to be Super Shadow and he kicks out at Silver - sending him flying - in that legendary cutscene. Shadow is pretty cool in this game.

I don't think the death scene is a big deal. When I played and completed the game for the first time last week, I was actually slightly shocked when I saw the death scene. I was suprised, it came out of the blue and left me feeling a little bit empty/numb (I am not joking, I am being serious).

Edited September 6, 2012 by NightwingFox

[Autosaver]

Do we really need another thread about '06? Come on man. We all know it's a shit game in virtually every single aspect by now, at this point we're just beating a dead horse.

B-b-but it's Hogfather! He makes it so going back is ENTERTAINING. It isn't like he just lazily slapped

"OMG TEN FALLEN HEROES SAWNIN HEDHEOHSS 2006 DEATH BEASTILITY"

unlike a certain gametrailer

[Sean]

I'm sorry about this but I decided just now that I'm going to lock every single 2006 topic I see from now on that isn't this one, so please direct discussion there.