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Alternatively, the Namekians could have used their creation magic, which all Namekians can do no matter the clan, to fashion a set of Potara Earrings for the two of them. It's technically not a weapon, just an accessory to completing a technique, like the Mafuba seal jars, so it's fair game.

 

I cannot see U6's Kaioshin tossing them in and the Zen'Os just allowing that, because then every Kaioshin would throw their earrings to their fighters to even it all out.

 

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6 hours ago, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

How are Potaras allowed?!

Unless I'm incorrect, it's never been explicitly said to be banned. It was banned in U6 V U7, and that seems to make sense now if Champa is aware of the fusion technique. It also makes sense why Goten and Trunks wouldn't be allowed to enter. While Gotenks would be a possibly good fighter, the two's lack of experience would be their downfall the second the fusion ended, making them a high risk character. Especially if SSJ3 Gotenks was used since it would decrease the fusion time further to five minutes a pop. While Gotenks might be able to do some damage in the short term, Goten and Trunks would really be unlikely to keep going in the tournament for long, and the second one of them got ringed out, the other would be screwed completely.

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8 minutes ago, -Robin- said:

Alternatively, the Namekians could have used their creation magic, which all Namekians can do no matter the clan, to fashion a set of Potara Earrings for the two of them. It's technically not a weapon, just an accessory to completing a technique, like the Mafuba seal jars, so it's fair game.

 

I cannot see U6's Kaioshin tossing them in and the Zen'Os just allowing that, because then every Kaioshin would throw their earrings to their fighters to even it all out.

 

Wait, wait, wait.

I know Namekians can create Dragon Ballas and clothes, but they can create anything?

 

5 minutes ago, Ryannumber1Scarer said:

Unless I'm incorrect, it's never been explicitly said to be banned. It was banned in U6 V U7, and that seems to make sense now if Champa is aware of the fusion technique. It also makes sense why Goten and Trunks wouldn't be allowed to enter. While Gotenks would be a possibly good fighter, the two's lack of experience would be their downfall the second the fusion ended, making them a high risk character. Especially if SSJ3 Gotenks was used since it would decrease the fusion time further to five minutes a pop. While Gotenks might be able to do some damage in the short term, Goten and Trunks would really be unlikely to keep going in the tournament for long, and the second one of them got ringed out, the other would be screwed completely.

I see it as a weapon, since it's not an ability. But knowing Zen-Oh, he will just agree because "It's cool."

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Just now, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Wait, wait, wait.

I know Namekians can create Dragon Ballas and clothes, but they can create anything?

 

I see it as a weapon, since it's not an ability. But knowing Zen-Oh, he will just agree because "It's cool."

It isn't a weapon. A weapon is something like Frost's poison, something that actively hinders your enemies through underhanded means, making an unfair battle. The fusion techniques are a natural set of techniques that two users can use to turn to a more powerful form. If they banned fusion, they might as well ban Super Saiyan, Potential Unlocked, Ultra Instinct etc.

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2 minutes ago, Ryannumber1Scarer said:

It isn't a weapon. A weapon is something like Frost's poison, something that actively hinders your enemies through underhanded means, making an unfair battle. The fusion techniques are a natural set of techniques that two users can use to turn to a more powerful form. If they banned fusion, they might as well ban Super Saiyan, Potential Unlocked, Ultra Instinct etc.

Well yes, but they are not doing the dance, they are using the Potaras. Those are still objects.

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Just now, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Well yes, but they are not doing the dance, they are using the Potaras. Those are still objects.

Yeah, accessories. It's not like you can throw them at people's heads as a weapon. It's been made very clear that objects that are simply needed for fighting techniques are allowed because they aren't explicitly weapons, they're something that is needed to unlock a legitimate technique. You're really stretching what can be considered a weapon if you're legitimately saying your only point is "well it's an object".

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9 minutes ago, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Wait, wait, wait.

I know Namekians can create Dragon Ballas and clothes, but they can create anything?

Piccolo conjured an hourglass to keep Super Buu aware of how long an hour is, and Goten and Trunks considered bribing Super Buu with candy and wanted Piccolo to conjure some up. 

With the exception of water, if the Namekian can think it, the Namekian can make it.

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2 minutes ago, Ryannumber1Scarer said:

Yeah, accessories. It's not like you can throw them at people's heads as a weapon. It's been made very clear that objects that are simply needed for fighting techniques are allowed because they aren't explicitly weapons, they're something that is needed to unlock a legitimate technique. You're really stretching what can be considered a weapon if you're legitimately saying your only point is "well it's an object".

Maybe calling it a weapon wasn't the best idea...

What I meant to say is that even accesories are banned. The only reason the jar for the Evil Containment Wave was allowed was becaise Zen-Oh liked it.

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1 minute ago, Limit Breaker Diamond said:

Maybe calling it a weapon wasn't the best idea...

What I meant to say is that even accesories are banned. The only reason the jar for the Evil Containment Wave was allowed was becaise Zen-Oh liked it.

Doesn't really matter when others are already established to be using Fusion. If Fusion was allowed through a natural technique, it only makes sense that the other method would be allowed to keep things interesting. 

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3 minutes ago, Ryannumber1Scarer said:

Doesn't really matter when others are already established to be using Fusion. If Fusion was allowed through a natural technique, it only makes sense that the other method would be allowed to keep things interesting. 

But no one fused so far...

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1 hour ago, -Robin- said:

I cannot see U6's Kaioshin tossing them in and the Zen'Os just allowing that, because then every Kaioshin would throw their earrings to their fighters to even it all out.

The Potara shown in the preview are green and appear to be the same ones worn by the Kaioshin of Universe 6 earlier in the series. I think they are actually the real thing from the stands and not a conjured item by the remaining Namekians.

Also, the Mafuba functions to redirect a foe without the jar. Potara are in a similar category as senzu beans, where the item does the heavy lifting and no ability interaction are required on the part of the user. They're not really comparable. That said, Universe 2 also employed an item to transfer power so they seem allowed on a case by case basis. It's also likely that they're simply focusing on items to extend combat, whereas fusion does not create additional energy or stamina.

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I'd have to say the Potaras could be banned as a weapon. Why?

Because they're in no way comparable to the Fusion Dance. The Fusion Dance is all you. The Potaras can be used by anyone who wears them, there's no "technique" required. No Potara = no fusion. Whereas with the Mafuba, you can still use that without a container (even though it wouldn't make sense to). There's a legitimate reason to ban Potara fusion, because it is item rather than skill-based.

Plus, Fusion makes you far more powerful than you were separate. If that's not a weapon, I don't know what is. A gun is a weapon. A knife is a weapon. All these items make you more powerful.

At the same time, we've seen that natural advantages do not qualify, like Lavender's poison being allowed but not Frost's needles. So hmm.

Synthesizing the Potaras with Namekian magic makes the most sense (and they'd likely use their Kai's earrings as a base), because then they can be construed as a natural byproduct of a person's skill. If Nameks can make Dragon Balls, I don't see why they couldn't create Potaras, even if only temporary or defective ones.

But, Zen-Oh's in play here, so don't bank too heavily on logic.

...watch it turn out the Namekian who makes them has to meditate to keep them active, only for him to be shot out of the ring by Frieza, forcing Kale and Caulifla to defuse right before they can score a critical hit against Goku.

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Thinking of another scenario:

I can see the Nameks conjuring up earrings for Kale and Caulifla, but either the earrings are defective or otherwise they'll defuse prematurely. While I thought of maybe the conjuring requires the Nameks to stay concentrated, the fact the Dragon Balls don't require constant concentration, just a pulse from the creator, would indicate conjured items can stay conjured.

Gohan and Piccolo will KO the Nameks (possibly with Piccolo going down), while Jiren might end up reactivating and getting rid of Kale just for insurance's sake, to make sure there's no way she and Caulifla can fuse again and possibly be a threat towards the end. Jiren does register Kale as a possible threat to U11 if not himself, hence his knocking her out earlier, but the fact she's able to recover her power and go berserk, never mind fuse with someone and become absurdly powerful, would necessitate getting rid of her completely. No doubt Belmod heard of Champa's master plan to simply maintain higher numbers than everyone else... and he may just order Jiren to get rid of Kale to be on the safe side (as well as tie U11 and U6 in the event of a worst case scenario).

Frieza would no doubt eliminate Caulifla, ending U6. No matter what happens, I think it's safe that the final knockout will go to Frieza. Goku and Gohan's conflicted feelings over the eliminations they caused aside, all of U7's heavy hitters are just too chummy with U6 to kill them.

Frieza? He'll be laughing the whole damned time. Maybe even prompting a fight with Vegeta.

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3 hours ago, Ice Vec said:

BTW...How does Goku recovers stamina by fighting 2 people and also transforming into SS2 and 3 briefly?

Uh... video game logic? I think the writers are only using mentioned amount of time as an aesthetic detail..

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The same reason you don't just lie down and go motionless after a prolonged sprint. Steadily getting your body back to its natural motions perks up your stamina quicker than essentially vegetating.

The Goku we saw in this episode was the martial arts master we've always been told he was, and he proved his own eclipsing power was not a crutch.

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