The topic of severely over-thinking things that don't really need to be overthought about...

[SenEDDtor Missile]

So yeah, I just had a strange thought while I was thinking over about reviewing Sonic Generations (eventually), but I found out that I have absolutely no idea where this statement could fit in any of the existing Sonic Topics, and I wasn't really sure if any such topic where this statement could fit even exists at all.

So! I'm going to be a lazy ass and create this topic as a means of drawing attention to this fact, and hope that either people will have something to say, or that a mod or staff member can find a topic that this single thought can fit into and merge it into said topic. Of course, on the flip-side, maybe some people will get interested and start posting up their own over-thoughts and thus make this into a legitimate topic, in which case I'll probably have to make a shorter name for the topic.

With that all said and done, here is that statement:

If one really thinks about it, you could really interpret Sonic learning how to use the Boost in several ways:

• Sonic is a carefree individual, but he has also shown himself to be a very defiant character at times. I ended up wondering if he had ever noticed how his speed, if he didn't have the Chaos Emeralds, was always dictated by whether he could roll down a slope fast enough, and then maintain that speed afterwards. My ponderings lead me to think that he eventually got sick of the fact that his speed, which was supposed to be his trademark, was being controlled by a bunch of plastic-looking loops and slopes. And we know that he hates being controlled. So thus the boost was developed, to finally give him the full freedom and control over his own speed he desired.

  Of course there is also the alternate over-thought:

  • Sonic knows about his games. He was cool once upon a time. But then he starting getting older, and the coolness he once had started to fade, due to changing perspectives on what was cool. Sonic grew desperate, and began to emulate whatever he thought would draw people in. 3rd person shooters, party games, even something that wouldn't look out of place in a Final Fantasy game. They all backfired, and his popularity plummeted like a rock. Humiliated, but unable to face his mistakes, he ran. And ran. And ran until he became one with the speed of sound...and boosted. but now, several years after his disgrace, now that people have began to open to him again, he still runs away, sensitive to even the tiniest prod, something he would have laughed off once upon a time...

  Well, that's all I got to say. If you have any severe over-thoughts about Sonic you wish to dump off, feel free. And if the mods find a good place for this kind of statement, feel free to merge.

  EDIT: You know, in hindsight, this sounds like something out of a bad fanfic.

  XD

Edited October 30, 2012 by Malpercio

[Wentos]

You might be overthinking this a little bit.

Edited October 30, 2012 by Natsuru Senō

[Dr. Crusher]

Implying that overthinking things doesn't already happen in almost every single other topic.

Edited October 30, 2012 by Dr. Crusher

[Amomynous]

You might be overthinking this a little bit.

Edited October 30, 2012 by Mysterics

[Blackthorne]

I would post a vastly over-thought counterpoint to the OP, but I'm just not good at participating in these kinds of threads.

[Multikaris]

What happened to E-106 through E-122?

* E-106 became a Babylon Rogue

* E-107 is the illest rapper in the Sol Dimension

* E-108 is now used to clean by Robotnik

* E-109 was destroyed with Eggman's Interstellar intergalactic amusement park

* E-110 was used to find Shadow

* E-111 found 06 Blaze. Silver is now interrogating him for details.

* E-112 Also found 06 Blaze, but wasn't so lucky. He fell off a ridge

* E-113 is also a Babylon Rogue.

* E-114 is now a peddler

* E-115 is an independent bounty hunter

* E-116 was used to find the mortal remains of Eggman Nega and bury them.

[JezMM]

I can't think of anything I've overthought, but my favourite instance of other people overthinking was when I edited out the most ridiculous thing on Rouge The Bat's wikipedia article. Someone put on there that "In Sonic Adventure 2, Rouge's air can be refilled with only her ears touching the surface of the water. This suggests that Rouge can breathe through her ears."

It took all I had to not type in the edit notes "removed because this in fact actually suggests you're a complete dunce."

Edited October 30, 2012 by JezMM

[SIXTH-RATE SOMA]

Why did they give Knuckles the rap music in SA2? Is it a hobby of Knuckles'? Where would an echidna find rap music on a tropical island all by his lonesome? Is it just an echidna thing? Did whole tribes go competing in rap battles in a desperate struggle for supremacy? Even if they did, wouldn't Knuckles like some kind of folk-rap instead? Where did he get those cool shoes from? ....

(a.d.d., is easy as 1 2 tree)

[Diogenes]

Sonic is a carefree individual, but he has also shown himself to be a very defiant character at times. I ended up wondering if he had ever noticed how his speed, if he didn't have the Chaos Emeralds, was always dictated by whether he could roll down a slope fast enough, and then maintain that speed afterwards. My ponderings lead me to think that he eventually got sick of the fact that his speed, which was supposed to be his trademark, was being controlled by a bunch of plastic-looking loops and slopes. And we know that he hates being controlled. So thus the boost was developed, to finally give him the full freedom and control over his own speed he desired.

[tenchibr]

Are the Chao Gardens part of an alternate dimension where time passes MUCH slower? Because let's say Sonic is like "meh, I don't feel like going there in a while", and then, a year later, he goes and everything is just as it was before, amiright?

Reminds me of Dragon Ball Z, when Goku takes Gohan and Vegeta to train in that alternate dimension area for a year when in real-time it's only a day's worth.

[Skull Leader]

*Comparing Sonic's values as a guy who will do what is right even if it means playing the bad guy role vs Amy's values based on the ideal of compassion make a nice contrast that would be interesting to explore.

*Is working at the Chaotix detective agency part of Espio's musha shugyou (warrior's pilgrimage) to perfect his skills a a shinobi?

Edited November 1, 2012 by Skull Leader

[Dr. Homem]

Dr. Eggman is constantly building huge armies of robots and bases, as well as other things. How does he get so many resources? What if he has a fake personality. When he's not trying to take over the world, he takes care of several front corporations which further fund and support his operations. These could include making robots for military and security use, or both his companies from Riders. His IQ of 300 should keep him safely on top of the market, both by having his products be far more advanced than the competition, and by having him make the right investments.

How did he start his fortune? It's very well possible he inherited a good deal of cash from his grandfather. In Heroes he was selling the red liquid from Grand Metropolis, too, indicating he can be involved with other goods. Not to mention he may have been melting down his destroyed bases and robots for years. Hell, all those casinos must also account for something.

[Vertekins]

Dr. Eggman is constantly building huge armies of robots and bases, as well as other things. How does he get so many resources? What if he has a fake personality. When he's not trying to take over the world, he takes care of several front corporations which further fund and support his operations. These could include making robots for military and security use, or both his companies from Riders. His IQ of 300 should keep him safely on top of the market, both by having his products be far more advanced than the competition, and by having him make the right investments.

How did he start his fortune? It's very well possible he inherited a good deal of cash from his grandfather. In Heroes he was selling the red liquid from Grand Metropolis, too, indicating he can be involved with other goods. Not to mention he may have been melting down his destroyed bases and robots for years. Hell, all those casinos must also account for something.

Oil Ocean Zone and Oil Desert Zone possibly explain why Eggman is so rich; He's got an ocean of black gold and the means to extract it from a desert.

I like topics like this :>

Overthinking it a bit but I always thought that this place...

Is one and the same as this place;

There's even an observation area atop the dome where Sonic likely uses the telescope that is shown on the table and there's a chimney for the fireplace. Perhaps clutching at straws but still...

[JezMM]

Dr. Eggman is constantly building huge armies of robots and bases, as well as other things. How does he get so many resources? What if he has a fake personality. When he's not trying to take over the world, he takes care of several front corporations which further fund and support his operations. These could include making robots for military and security use, or both his companies from Riders. His IQ of 300 should keep him safely on top of the market, both by having his products be far more advanced than the competition, and by having him make the right investments.

How did he start his fortune? It's very well possible he inherited a good deal of cash from his grandfather. In Heroes he was selling the red liquid from Grand Metropolis, too, indicating he can be involved with other goods. Not to mention he may have been melting down his destroyed bases and robots for years. Hell, all those casinos must also account for something.

He pretty much has been confirmed to. Much to Sonic and Co's surprise, he actually owns the MeteorTech company in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, who up to that point were just a generic run-of-the-mill robotics company that they thought nothing of.

Rather less hidden is Riders 1, where he owns Robotnik Corp, which develops and sells legitimate extreme gear.

He probably commands many completely innocent companies to fuel his not so innocent ones.

Edited November 1, 2012 by JezMM

[Dr. Homem]

Oh. I got another. Eggman is the real ultimate lifeform.

After Gerald constructed the ultimate lifeform, Shadow, he always had the idea something would go wrong with him being created partly from Black Doom's blood so he had the idea to create his own ultimate lifeform which was started and completed years before. He decided to construct it from his blood, thus creating Dr. Ivo Robotnik, who was allowed to live a normal life. Gerald had his son raise Dr. Robotnik as his own. Incase anything went wrong with the Shadow project, he would tell Eggman so he could grow up and defend the planet but never got the chance because he was executed by the government. Dr. Eggman being the ultimate lifeform is the reason for his incredible intelligence. To this day Dr. Robotnik doesn't realize what he really is.

Edited November 1, 2012 by Homem

[Skull Leader]

Dr. Eggman is constantly building huge armies of robots and bases, as well as other things. How does he get so many resources? What if he has a fake personality. When he's not trying to take over the world, he takes care of several front corporations which further fund and support his operations. These could include making robots for military and security use, or both his companies from Riders. His IQ of 300 should keep him safely on top of the market, both by having his products be far more advanced than the competition, and by having him make the right investments.

How did he start his fortune? It's very well possible he inherited a good deal of cash from his grandfather. In Heroes he was selling the red liquid from Grand Metropolis, too, indicating he can be involved with other goods. Not to mention he may have been melting down his destroyed bases and robots for years. Hell, all those casinos must also account for something.

I think he actually builds weapons for GUN, using them as testbeds, and then applying what he learned and upgrade it for his own robotic armies.

[tenchibr]

What bothers me is exactly what kind of world does Sonic live in? Does Sonic Unleashed have Station Square? If you take the Stage Select map from Sonic Adventure 2 and compare to the world in Sonic Unleashed... I don't even think you can.

So what happened after Adventure 2? Did he just say "Hey guys, let's hop off this boring world, I'm outta here?"

Edit: And Soleanna? I would assume it would be by Spagonia but still that's a little far-fetched.

Edited November 1, 2012 by tenchibr

[Dr. Homem]

What bothers me is exactly what kind of world does Sonic live in? Does Sonic Unleashed have Station Square? If you take the Stage Select map from Sonic Adventure 2 and compare to the world in Sonic Unleashed... I don't even think you can.

So what happened after Adventure 2? Did he just say "Hey guys, let's hop off this boring world, I'm outta here?"

So let's think like this. The games are in the same continuity as Sonic X. How does that work? Well, Unleashed, Colors and all the pre-Adventure games happen in the planet they start in X. It is not realistic and the humans are in the same vein as Eggman.

Fast forward to the cartoon's intro: they all get teleported to the post-Adventure world, with realistic humans, Station Square and all that.

At the end they go back to their original world, where Generations happens.

[Diogenes]

But then where does Heroes fit?

[BeautyRedefined]

But then where does Heroes fit?

Heroes is set after SA2. Didn't you know O_o

[SenEDDtor Missile]

But then where does Heroes fit?

It was a dimension in between made by some half drunk god.

...I'm joking.

[BeautyRedefined]

It was a dimension in between made by some half drunk god.

...I'm joking.

I thought Heroes was really good.Best 3D game after Generations.

[TheOcelot]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried drawing a map of Sonic's world with all the zones/stages and locations from ever game in the series. It would likely look like an absolute mess.

[WarioBone]

I've gone over this a few times before, but Sonic has Aerokinesis, i.e., the ability to control wind.

It's probably pretty known pretty well around these parts, but it's just not something that pops up too often. Sonic displays the ability to control wind in limited capacities in several games, most meaningfully the ones with the boost. One does not simply go "I'MMA GO FASTER" in midair and do it. Not to mention Sonic Wind and the Blue Tornado.

So, if Sonic could apply this ability further, you could create rather interesting gameplay for said Hedgehog. Just thought that was neat.

Edited November 1, 2012 by Mewtwo

[Vertekins]

I've gone over this a few times before, but Sonic has Aerokinesis, i.e., the ability to control wind.

This is overthinking? It's blatantly obvious.

Of course people like to say he generates wind by movement when this definitely is not true 100% of the time. Sonic Wind, the Crest of Wind and the way he manipulates wind in the SatSR fmv before Night Palace as well as his soul/ghost taking on the form of a gust of blue wind in '06 prove that he's aerokinetic.