Popular and unpopular Sonic opinions you agree and disagree with!

[Speedi]

Popular I disagree with: Sonic is a kids franchise. What kinds of marketing in the past couple of years has actually led people to believe this is the case? If anything they market way more towards people who are already Sonic fans due to how much nostalgia is in most of the newer games.

Unpopular agree with: Sonic Adventure 2 is not a good game.

[RedFox99]

Unpopular-ish: I kind of wish Perci replaced Sticks as the fifth member of Team Sonic.

[Whatever the WhoCares]

Marine the Raccoon is underrated. Yeah I said it. 

[JohnSMan]

Sonic Unleashed is okay, but not amazing IMO.

I don't know if that's considered popular or unpopular, but I've seen a lot of people that think it's the best Sonic game.

[Fr0zenanus]

Meh.....

-Sonic Mania is not that "good" of a game, i am convinced that Taxman payed a large sum of money to each critic that reviewed it. just to ensure a high ranking on review aggregators. (Gamerankings, Opencritic. Metacritic) now, i am not good at elaborating while using a keyboard. but for example. if the game was really all that good, then it would have had a high broadcast count and high viewership on Twitch during the time it was released. did it? not really, and like that it just faded away on twitch. you think a game with that much hype behind it, it would have been sharing the same spot that PUBG (which i don't fff-ing care about btw) occupies.

Now i am not necessarily saying Mania is a bad game (but at same time, i'm saying it's not that good) and me saying it wasn't popular on Twitch doesn't classify it as bad. what i'm saying is, people came off as Mania as some important or some special milestone,

keyword: Important/Special.   

what i'm saying is: Mania is not that Important or Special of an game, you can use complicated rebuttals about you're view on the series all you want, but ask yourself this. are you still going to be playing Mania in five years? is the novelty still going to be with it when you played something else between the time period Mania came out  and five years where you're possibly playing the next big hyped game?

[Diogenes]

7 minutes ago, Fr0zenanus said:

but ask yourself this. are you still going to be playing Mania in five years?

Fuck yes I will.

[Fr0zenanus]

2 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

Fuck yes I am.

Good for you, i rather just move on to play something else once i'm finished with a game. something that's not Sonic or 2D sidescroller related.

[Your Vest Friend]

Related to Mania (but not that this time), I don't think Eggette/Ohmlette/Scramble/Whoyoucallingeggheadeggface works for Eggman in the way people are proposing. 

There's a key difference between how Eggman and Bowser operate.

-Eggman is proud of his creations, but he doesn't really seem to view them with much compassion (even Metal Sonic, regardless of what the comic might have tried to imply...I'm actually not sure, I'd have to go back and check), so ultimately he doesn't form emotional bonds with his minions. This has been consistent throughout his entire run, even in alternate media where he had flesh and blood sidekicks (Grimer and Snively, the latter not being spared even as a nephew). 

-Bowser Jr was part of a series of moves to humanise Bowser in the games* and change up his dynamic. So he went from fearful and uncaring tyrant who minions would betray at the drop of a hat, to a compassionate and loving father (which they didn't ever show when the Koopalings were supposed to be his kids) with a crush who garners respect and loyalty (as well as fear) from his troops. In a sense, Bowser Jr is a tool to show off Bowser, something which has only recently come to be appreciated given how much hate he got when he debuted. 

I think my point is that the Sonic games don't seem to have any intention of doing similar for Eggman, so adding in Upside-Down Girl would ultimately be fruitless as there wouldn't be a unique dynamic between Eggman and her. 

 

*Bowser's crush on Peach has been a thing in other Japanese media since the 80's. 

[StaticMania]

Eggman doesn't need to be humanized like Bowser, Egg niece is just a neat fan creation.

[Wraith]

I mean, Eggman being apathetic toward Eggette would lead to a unique dynamic on it's own. You'd kind of want it to be different from Bowser Jr. Maybe she's just a genius fan who Eggman only uses when it's convenient. 

[Dr. Detective]

I still haven't bought Mania because I'm still terrified of it. 

It looks so innocent but I see through it. It's gonna get me killed and I'm gonna get frustrated. And I might even cry too because I'm still really sensitive despite being 24. 

[Dizcrybe]

A lot of people have been slamming Classic Sonic's music in Forces, but the only theme I actively dislike is the Green Hill theme. Casino Forest is good, Chemical Plant I remember being pretty sick, and the rest were just average.

[Yoko/葉子]

This is an unpopular opinion, as I sense most haven't thought of it. Besides, it's kinda fitting for Thanksgiving.

I wish more people would spend less time whining about the NY cast and imagine how adorable it will be to have their kids have chats about how their mom/dad is on their team of characters.

"My dad has the strong Knuckles, so he's on my team." "My mommie has been Blaze, who makes fire. She's the best." "No, my daddy has been two Super Saiyans. My team can beat your team."

Austin Griffith is still a baby, so he can join in, in a few years.

[Jar Jar Analysis 1138]

Unpopular: Sonic Mania's stages are underwhelming for a good portion of the game, same with Sonic Generations in many instances(City Escape). You can clearly see how the team put far more work into their own creative stages rather than the old ones and I honestly dislike how the original stages are in the game rather all the stages basically being new. It hampers on Mania's Quality which is why I don't really compare it to the main classic titles at all.

 

[Cayenne]

Popular(?):

-Sega and TT wasted the perfect engine for a 3D Sonic game with Sonic R.

Unpopular(?):

-Sonic Unleashed, Secret Rings and Black Knight have the best art direction of the 3D Sonic games.

-Sonic the Fighters is pretty good and that low-poly aesthetic is really, really cool. 

-Sonic Riders is (or was. It's practically dead nowadays) the best Sonic spin-off after Sonic & All-Stars Racing and Sonic Free Riders could have been a great sequel to Zero Gravity if it wasn't a Kinect game.

-Sonic Team is still great...as a developer for Puyo Puyo games.

[Monkey Destruction Switch]

On 11/20/2017 at 8:52 PM, Dizcrybe said:

A lot of people have been slamming Classic Sonic's music in Forces, but the only theme I actively dislike is the Green Hill theme. Casino Forest is good, Chemical Plant I remember being pretty sick, and the rest were just average.

FYI, this post was in the Unpopular Opinions Thread but was moved here because it's Sonic-specific.

[StaticMania]

On 11/23/17 at 11:12 PM, Cayenne said:

-Sonic Unleashed, Secret Rings and Black Knight have the best art direction of the 3D Sonic games.

Those are like 3 different art styles though, so this doesn't add up.

[Your Vest Friend]

Unpopular: I think Espio's design could be improved if he had more of an overhang on his lip.

I'd draw it out myself to give an accurate idea, but this pic conveniently has a very similar thing to what I'm seeing in my head. 

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Pretty much like that, only with the regular art style. I think it'd differentiate his design more from other standard Sonic template characters, and lend more to his reptilian nature (since it's more like actual chameleons). 

 

[Cayenne]

35 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Those are like 3 different art styles though, so this doesn't add up.

In Video Games, Art Direction covers many things like character design, artwork, tones, themes, colors, illustrations, etc. What I meant to say was that Unleashed, Secret Rings and Black Knight have the best use of these elements: The themes of each game are executed very well (in an artistic sense), characters and enemies have cool designs, levels are beautiful, eye-catching, with many details and color combinations:

Spoiler

 

[Skooks]

Very unpopular opinion here, but I think the first Sonic is better than the original Super Mario Bros. I never enjoyed the original Mario Bros as much as I did with Sonic, it just felt too boring and samey to me. (not to say it's a bad game by any means!) Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with Mario games or maybe I just have awful taste, I dunno. That's what a good majority of people o the Internet would lead me to believe. Sonic though had great varied visuals, fun momentum based gameplay and less linear level design. Sonic appealed to me as a character more than Mario ever did too. 

[Swing]

Unpopular: A lot of people bash the Deadly Six as one of the worst villains Sonic Team has ever created. But in my opinion their are not worst or better than other characters. I mean sure, their are horribly written, but that goes for almost all Sonic characters. I think the reason why people actually prefer villains like Infinite or Mephiles the Dark is, because their are edgy Sonic styled furry characters and because of that alone cooler in the eyes of man fans. The D6 are more their own thing, which really doesn't make them worst than the just now mentioned ones.

[SBR2]

Apparently Unpopular but Post Reboot Archie Sonic is just better more Well constructed Sonic Comics. I love Ian's Pre-Reboot stuff but I can name things I hate about it (How he portrayed Rouge, The Iron Dominion Saga) way easier than I can think of anything Negative about Post-Reboot.

[RedFox99]

21 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Apparently Unpopular but Post Reboot Archie Sonic is just better more Well constructed Sonic Comics. I love Ian's Pre-Reboot stuff but I can name things I hate about it (How he portrayed Rouge, The Iron Dominion Saga) way easier than I can think of anything Negative about Post-Reboot.

Yeah, I don't like how she was during the TTT arc. Was that the only time she was like that?

[Cayenne]

3 hours ago, Skooks said:

Very unpopular opinion here, but I think the first Sonic is better than the original Super Mario Bros. I never enjoyed the original Mario Bros as much as I did with Sonic, it just felt too boring and samey to me. (not to say it's a bad game by any means!) Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with Mario games or maybe I just have awful taste, I dunno. That's what a good majority of people o the Internet would lead me to believe. Sonic though had great varied visuals, fun momentum based gameplay and less linear level design. Sonic appealed to me as a character more than Mario ever did too. 

While I prefer Sonic 1 to SMB as well, I think these games are apples and oranges. The original Super Mario Bros. comes from a time where console platformers were getting better and better, but still were kinda rudimentary. Sonic 1 was a product of many years of evolution and more advanced hardware.

48 minutes ago, Swing said:

Unpopular: A lot of people bash the Deadly Six as one of the worst villains Sonic Team has ever created. But in my opinion their are not worst or better than other characters. I mean sure, their are horribly written, but that goes for almost all Sonic characters. I think the reason why people actually prefer villains like Infinite or Mephiles the Dark is, because their are edgy Sonic styled furry characters and because of that alone cooler in the eyes of man fans. The D6 are more their own thing, which really doesn't make them worst than the just now mentioned ones.

I only have 2 problems with the Deadly Six: Their origins and demise. Sonic Lost World doesn't explain what the Zeti are, their powers, why Eggman's conch controls them and, after Zavok is defeated, they simply vanish into thin air. As always, bad writing is what kills any potential for new characters and villains in this franchise.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

3 hours ago, RedFox99 said:

Yeah, I don't like how she was during the TTT arc. Was that the only time she was like that?

I'd say it's the most glaring moment she was like that, as any other moment she might have been like that was either hard to tell or actually fitted the moment.

I don't think most people liked how she was, even those who accepted that pre-Reboot characterizations had their own nuances from other canons. I know I didn't.