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Dude, I think you're on the bad side of Fanfiction.net. Because the a ton fan art for this series is badass.

 

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if the sturgeon's law is about 90% of the fan-media being crap, roughly 90% of crappy fan-media has crappy shoujo girl-story elements that does not fit the franchise at all.

 

sorry if i'm sounding sexist but I just feel that it's ridiculously hard to find general fan-media (comics, art, fanfic, anything really) that is not plagued by that.

 

it's much easily to find badly written official characters in a badly written romance than say, an overpowered gary-stu that happens to be Shadow's long lost brother or something like that.

 

I noticed that pretty much all of character derailment in bad fan-media seems to come from OOC romance or derailed character dynamics adding weird shoujo romance elements that doesn't fit the series, so much more than DBZ-esque gary stu characters.

 

Why that happens anyway?

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if the sturgeon's law is about 90% of the fan-media being crap, roughly 90% of crappy fan-media has crappy shoujo girl-story elements that does not fit the franchise at all.

 

sorry if i'm sounding sexist but I just feel that it's ridiculously hard to find general fan-media (comics, art, fanfic, anything really) that is not plagued by that.

 

it's much easily to find badly written official characters in a badly written romance than say, an overpowered gary-stu that happens to be Shadow's long lost brother or something like that.

 

I noticed that pretty much all of character derailment in bad fan-media seems to come from OOC romance or derailed character dynamics adding weird shoujo romance elements that doesn't fit the series, so much more than DBZ-esque gary stu characters.

 

Why that happens anyway?

Female fans writing about things that appeal to feminine interests?  I've never heard of such a thing!

 

Seriously, though, fan works are all based on a fan's interpretation of the character.  Some may do it better than others, but no fan works are in perfect alignment with the official parties' interpretations.  With that said, this really applies to any fanbase, but when you have a popular franchise full of cute creatures that is more welcoming to female audiences than alienating, of course there's going to be a lot of bad romance stories written by 13-year-olds.

 

Not that I mind bad romance stories written by 13-year-olds, but that's typically why I avoid fan works in general unless they gain enough attention in the fanbase that my curiosity is perked.  (Or it somehow else captures my eye) - I've seen too many fan fictions of characters where they suffer explicitly brutal deaths or are raped and stabbed and I don't mean to sound judgmental, but how does a cute and campy concept like Sonic the Hedgehog inspire someone to write about something like that?!  That's not to say they can't touch upon more mature subjects, but at times it just puzzles me.

 

But I mean, people can write whatever they want and I have no problem with them doing so as long as I'm not forced to read it.

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Unpopular: Sonic 1 is over rated. With the exception of Green Hill and Star Light, most of the levels in the game feel too slow, which doesn't seem very Sonic-y to me( which is funny, seeing how it's the first Sonic game ever made. I still love the soundtrack, but the music doesn't hold a candle to Sonic 2 or Sonic 3's music.

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I'm not sure it's possible to compare the first game to the other games and call it a step back. You have to take it from a constructive standpoint in that it was the very first Sonic game and what comes with the first is room for improvement in the next ones.

 

It's like comparing Crash Bandicoot 1 to 2 and saying 1 is overrated because it can't compare to 2 when it's obvious that the first game was trying out a new series and mascot properly (I mention Crash because of the codename his game carries in relevance to Sonic).

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Unpopular: Sonic 1 is over rated. With the exception of Green Hill and Star Light, most of the levels in the game feel too slow, which doesn't seem very Sonic-y to me( which is funny, seeing how it's the first Sonic game ever made. I still love the soundtrack, but the music doesn't hold a candle to Sonic 2 or Sonic 3's music.

Yeah, like Mogtaki said, it's a little unfair to call it overrated since it was just an experiment.  The first iteration always leaves something to be desired.

 

With that being said, I can understand why you wouldn't like it for the reasons you stated above and that's perfectly okay.  I love the game myself, but if we were to be perfectly honest with ourselves, it only receives the warm reception it's gotten as a Sonic because it WAS the first.  If it were released today, people, and by people I mean myself, would say that as a Sonic game it's an okay title with good level and artistic design, but a slow gameplay engine.

 

Now for something completely different.

 

I don't know if this falls under "popular" or "unpopular," but everytime I try to talk about it, people always chew me out.  So here goes...

 

I don't like the title screen music for Unleashed and Colors.  It's not that I don't like orchestral music. In fact, I love orchestral music, and NO I'm not saying that it has to be all distortion-heavy metalcore, but Unleashed and Colors' title screen music just doesn't put you in the mood to play a high-speed platformer.  Granted, I love that they're experimenting with the musical style, but when I turn on a Sonic game, the last thing I expect to be treated to is a bland fanfare of trumpets that sounds like something I've heard a million times before.

 

But that's just my opinion.

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Popular: Eggman is perhaps the coolest character in Sonic right now. Why is it that it's Eggman who keeps getting the better quips when being snarky is an established part of Sonic's personality?

 

Decidedly Unpopular: SA2 is a good deal more entertaining than SA1. Don't get me wrong, I know it's not the best game in town. But at least I could laugh at things like the Knuckles raps and Sonic kicking a Pharaoh statue in the face. It's a bit of a B-Movie game in that regard, haha. SA1, on the other hand, has maybe two or so sections that are legitimately entertaining (Sonic's story, Gamma's story) but the rest is sort of a slog, neither very awesome nor entertainingly bad.

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SA1, on the other hand, has maybe two or so sections that are legitimately entertaining (Sonic's story, Gamma's story) but the rest is sort of a slog, neither very awesome nor entertainingly bad.

 

Even Tails, who was basically like Sonic except completely broken?

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I'm not sure it's possible to compare the first game to the other games and call it a step back. You have to take it from a constructive standpoint in that it was the very first Sonic game and what comes with the first is room for improvement in the next ones.

 

It's like comparing Crash Bandicoot 1 to 2 and saying 1 is overrated because it can't compare to 2 when it's obvious that the first game was trying out a new series and mascot properly (I mention Crash because of the codename his game carries in relevance to Sonic).

I'm not trying to be unfair to the game, that's just how I feel about it. Sonic 1 isn't a bad game at all, I just think it's over rated. I understand it was the first game of the series and all, but that doesn't excuse it from being flawed. Thankfully, Sega improved on the sonic formula with sonic 2.

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Even Tails, who was basically like Sonic except completely broken?

 

Tails's section is basically Sonic's, except you get to race Eggman at the end. I consider it more like a challenge mode for Sonic's story than its own thing, really. That said:

 

Unpopular Opinion Numero Dos: I wouldn't mind at all (and in fact, would find it kind of neat) if future alternate characters play out a bit like Tails in SA1, being a twist on Sonic's gameplay. This would be assuming, of course, that Sonic Team have no real way of getting a Sonic 3 thing going with alternates.

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Tails's section is basically Sonic's, except you get to race Eggman at the end. I consider it more like a challenge mode for Sonic's story than its own thing, really.

 

What's challenging about flying over everything?

 

 

 

Unpopular Opinion Numero Dos: I wouldn't mind at all (and in fact, would find it kind of neat) if future alternate characters play out a bit like Tails in SA1, being a twist on Sonic's gameplay. This would be assuming, of course, that Sonic Team have no real way of getting a Sonic 3 thing going with alternates.

 

This is unpopular? It sounds like a great idea.

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What's challenging about flying over everything?

 

I didn't say it was successful.

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I guess this one's fairly unpopular, but I've never really liked Metal Harbour's music, I always thought it was too cheesy and "in your face".

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I will never, EVER, agree with someone defending 06.   At all.
Not even if they say the soundtrack is superb?
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I guess this one's fairly unpopular, but I've never really liked Metal Harbour's music, I always thought it was too cheesy and "in your face".
That's kind of why it's great. "Cheesy" and "in your face" pretty much define Sonic.

 

Not even if they say the soundtrack is superb?
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I guess this would be a pretty unpopular one.

 

Sonic CD (2011 Vers.) is one of my favorite classic Sonic games.

 

Compared to all of them, it just has this unique and different feel that really makes it stands out, not to mention it's the first game in the series to have CD quality music, and it really stands out. (Tidal Tempest Good Future JP is one of my favorite tracks, hands down) With it's own awesome animated opening and ending, it just feels like a bigger package.

 

Sure the time gimmick and level design can be annoying, but once you start mastering the stages, it'll feel like second nature. At least, to me anyway. I could speedrun all the stages pretty easily, and I was playing on my fucking iPhone.

 

The Nature vs Machine theme of the game is really played off well too. Failing to save the future will result in machinery destroying the world and making it a desolate wasteland. A good future shows the togetherness and harmony of machine and nature. And the scenery porn, and the music of either futures reflect that. Not to mention the present, which represents the now. And the primitive past, which showed how the zones were before modern times. The music and scenery reflect them just as well. There is nothing better than having a free run in all the Good Futures through the level select, no enemies, beautiful music, and wonderful scenery for Sonic to speed through.

 

So yeah, definitely love it to bits.

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I like Sonic 1 a lot actually, loved how lives and continues mattered so much in order for you to beat the game. loved the hardcore platforming and loved Labyrinth Zone.

 

I like Sonic 4. both episodes.

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A popular view that I personally disagree with is that Sonic 06 is not fun. It has a lot of flaws, but despite the flaws, there's still a lot of fun to be had with the game. I'm having a blast with it right now.  I get a wonderful feeling when I manage to S-rank Crisis City with Sonic, or when I go through a bunch of enemies with Shadow in Chaos boost mode, or when I etc...

 

The game has a remarkable amount of shortcomings simply due to the game being unfinished; the meter in the lower right corner does not do half the things its supposed to do, Shadow's chaos blast is....sad, perhaps because of the unfinished 'maturity' meter mechanic. This might be also why the Chaos Lance can only hit one target at a time. I could go on and on about the flaws, but sometimes I just really enjoy the gameplay.

 

Maybe that makes me weird, having so much fun with a broken game, but that is the unpopular view that I have.

 

 

 

 

Side note: you know how the characters give you hints if you lose a life during a boss fight? If that was done during the Silver boss fight, the encounter with Silver would have been far less painful.

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Don't know if this is a popular opinion or not, but Sonic Genesis has the absolute WORST soundtrack in any Sonic game. Yes, even Chronicles was better.

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Whilst I don't like Amy Rose gameplay in Sonic 06 very much, I do feel that she is potrayed in a far better light in the cutscenes of 06. She certainly isn't annoying in this game.

 

Okay, she runs into Silver mistaking him for Sonic, but anyone could do that, right?

 

As soon as she sees that Silver is trying to kill Sonic, she throws herself in front of Sonic (in harms way) without a moments thought. Sonic then ditches Amy to chase after Elise again, leaving Amy (for all he knew) in the hands of this psychotic maniac. Sonic you bastard!

 

Later on in the Soleanna trials, Sonic has the choice to choose Amy of Elise as his true love. I have never chosen Elise. It's got to be Amy, always her. Elise is completely useless in 06, constantly getting captured.

 

Then at the end of the game Amy is really upset when Sonic dies. She (along with Knuckles) is pretty much the only one who shows any sadness that Sonic is sleeping with the fishes. Then she risks her life to get a chaos emerald.

 

Considering how she was portrayed as being totally obsessed with sonic in SA1 & SA2, Amy comes across as a more interesting/less annoying character in 06 and also in Unleashed.   

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Whilst I don't like Amy Rose gameplay in Sonic 06 very much, I do feel that she is potrayed in a far better light in the cutscenes of 06. She certainly isn't annoying in this game.   Okay, she runs into Silver mistaking him for Sonic, but anyone could do that, right?   As soon as she sees that Silver is trying to kill Sonic, she throws herself in front of Sonic (in harms way) without a moments thought. Sonic then ditches Amy to chase after Elise again, leaving Amy (for all he knew) in the hands of this psychotic maniac. Sonic you bastard!   Later on in the Soleanna trials, Sonic has the choice to choose Amy of Elise as his true love. I have never chosen Elise. It's got to be Amy, always her. Elise is completely useless in 06, constantly getting captured.   Then at the end of the game Amy is really upset when Sonic dies. She (along with Knuckles) is pretty much the only one who shows any sadness that Sonic is sleeping with the fishes. Then she risks her life to get a chaos emerald.   Considering how she was portrayed as being totally obsessed with sonic in SA1 & SA2, Amy comes across as a more interesting/less annoying character in 06 and also in Unleashed.   
I never remember Amy being obsessed with sonic in adventure 1. She felt to me more independent and mature. I didn't find her crazy obsessed at all.
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Considering how she was portrayed as being totally obsessed with sonic in SA1 & SA2, Amy comes across as a more interesting/less annoying character in 06 and also in Unleashed.   

lol

 

You'd think Amy would be offended at Sonic leaving her in front of a psychokinetic hedgehog out for blood and then going after a Princess he met like a day ago.

 

Sonic Adventure 1 shows Amy's best development in the series by far.

 

First she is dependant on Sonic, even expecting Sonic to help her watch the birdie, but when Sonic refuses, Amy doesn't just chase after him, she declares to watch him herself. Not only does she have to deal with a robot that could take her out easily, but there is no one to help her, she's on her own this time. The fact this young girl was brave enough to destroy a robot that had been chasing her the entire game and reunite the young birdie with his family/siblings is amazing enough.

 

You'd think they would have stuck with this..but looking at Free Riders...ugh.

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