Your Unanswered Sonic Questions

[DabigRG]

2 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

Because it's a road in the sky, 

Is it? Like, I know there's a fair bit of speed in half of it's levels, but if there's something it lacks, it's actual roads..

[Diogenes]

It's more of a road than the parts of the sky that are empty.

[DabigRG]

4 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

It's more of a road than the parts of the sky that are empty.

Keh.

Which brings me to the crux of that country: What was it even supposed to be?

[Dr. Detective]

I wonder if Charmy has an afro under his helmet. That's the real mystery here.

Its like Double D from Ed, Edd, n Eddy with the headwear mystery.

[DabigRG]

While this might be rather dumb, why do people dislike Charmy so much?

10 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

I wonder if Charmy has an afro under his helmet. That's the real mystery here.

Its like Double D from Ed, Edd, n Eddy with the headwear mystery.

Oh. Good question.

I think he's mainly "bald" with a bit of fuzz, though.

[Whatever the WhoCares]

When the Echidna tribe trampled over the Chao, they laid there motionless and with their eyes open. Narratively it would make sense that they’ve been killed, as whatever happened to them was enough to drive Chaos into a mass-murderous frenzy. But then, that seems like a plot point we wouldn’t have gotten until the series went in a darker direction. The Chao might have been motionless simply due to their limited animation, given that they’re actually low-poly, cutscene-only Chao that look a lot more rudimentary than the ones in the gardens. Is there any official material suggesting these Chao were killed?

On that subject, we also get a similar bunch of low-poly Chao when Chaos turns back to Zero. Does Chaos just carry a bunch of Chao around with it, or are those Chao actually the same ones from that flashback, once trapped in the Emerald just like Tikal was?

[DabigRG]

5 minutes ago, Whatever the WhoCares said:

When the Echidna tribe trampled over the Chao, they laid there motionless and with their eyes open. Narratively it would make sense that they’ve been killed, as whatever happened to them was enough to drive Chaos into a mass-murderous frenzy. But then, that seems like a plot point we wouldn’t have gotten until the series went in a darker direction. The Chao might have been motionless simply due to their limited animation, given that they’re actually low-poly, cutscene-only Chao that look a lot more rudimentary than the ones in the gardens. Is there any official material suggesting these Chao were killed?

The Complete Sonic Comic Encyclopedia mentions there being Seven Server Chao helping Tikal, so if that's how many Chao there are there, then I guess that counts.

7 minutes ago, Whatever the WhoCares said:

On that subject, we also get a similar bunch of low-poly Chao when Chaos turns back to Zero. Does Chaos just carry a bunch of Chao around with it, or are those Chao actually the same ones from that flashback, once trapped in the Emerald just like Tikal was?

I think they're just meant to be Chao who existed in the Present day that were led there by Tikal to help soothe Chaos.

[Silvereyes]

So here's my question. In Sonic '06, the game ends with Sonic and Elise going back to Solaris being a flame, blowing him out and therefore meaning the entire events of Sonic '06 cease from happening. However, in Silver's campaign, we see Blaze essentially sacrifice herself by sealing Iblis within herself and sending herself to an alternate dimension. My question: does the timeline change effect all dimensions or just the dimension Sonic and co are in? If it doesn't, then does that mean there is an another Blaze out there with a version of Iblis, which would eventually cause destruction against the populace of another dimension and could of been prevented?

[DabigRG]

2 hours ago, silvereye27 said:

So here's my question. In Sonic '06, the game ends with Sonic and Elise going back to Solaris being a flame, blowing him out and therefore meaning the entire events of Sonic '06 cease from happening. However, in Silver's campaign, we see Blaze essentially sacrifice herself by sealing Iblis within herself and sending herself to an alternate dimension. My question: does the timeline change effect all dimensions or just the dimension Sonic and co are in? If it doesn't, then does that mean there is an another Blaze out there with a version of Iblis, which would eventually cause destruction against the populace of another dimension and could of been prevented?

Potentially. Then again, Blaze isn't really the type to cry easily, so I would think she'd have better control than the Sonic-compromised Elise.
I know there was something about Blaze implying that the Crisis City in Generations was her fault, but I think that might be a hoax/misconception.

[Silvereyes]

9 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Potentially. Then again, Blaze isn't really the type to cry easily, so I would think she'd have better control than the Sonic-compromised Elise.
I know there was something about Blaze implying that the Crisis City in Generations was her fault, but I think that might be a hoax/misconception.

That's another issue with Sonic '06 though. In Silver's timeline, Iblis is released when Elise is killed aboard the Egg Carrier but throughout the game they only ever state that he can be released through tears. So theoretically, couldn't Blaze die of old age and release Iblis that way?

[DabigRG]

2 hours ago, silvereye27 said:

That's another issue with Sonic '06 though. In Silver's timeline, Iblis is released when Elise is killed aboard the Egg Carrier but throughout the game they only ever state that he can be released through tears. So theoretically, couldn't Blaze die of old age and release Iblis that way?

..Well shit.

You know, unless Elise either broke down once she realized Sonic wouldn't be able to save her [for Soleanna] or wasn't instantly killed when the ship went up.

[Silvereyes]

2 hours ago, DabigRG said:

..Well shit.

You know, unless Elise either broke down once she realized Sonic wouldn't be able to save her [for Soleanna] or wasn't instantly killed when the ship went up.

The even bigger plot hole of '06 is Mephilis' plan. If Iblis has to be released for him to be able to fuse with it so that they can become Solaris... why doesn't he do it immedietly in Silver's timeline? They never state why Iblis must be released through tears for the fusion to happen. It seems like it is just a fan thing to make that connection so that the Mephilis' entire plan doesn't immedietly not make sense.

And ofcourse there is the very weird way Elise dies too. The Egg Carrier just seems to spontaneously develop a fault and crash in the original timeline. The other fan theory I've seen is that Mephilis is the one responsible for it, but that is never implied and it is such a strange plot development, I have no idea why it happens either.

Then again, we are talking about Sonic ''06.

I might as well throw one more question into the '06 pile: wouldn't Silver and Blaze make a far more logical love story than Sonic and Elise? Honestly the only reason I bring this up is because of the baffling trials Sonic and Silver have to go through in their respective episodes.

Sonic has a trial where he gets to pick between 2 chicks without any pressure whatsoever, while Silver has to fight 50 robots to save Blaze from the literal friendzone. I just find it funny how the game seems to insist that Sonic and Elise ARE IN LOVE while Silver and Blaze ARE JUST SUPER CLOSE FRIENDS but Silver is the one who has to prove his friendship. It seems like those specific trials exist just to remind the player about these relationships so that the way the story turns is meant to be more impactful with Sonic's death and resurrection and Blaze's sacrifice.

I guess I just find it funny in numerous ways due to how the idea of 2 people who seem to live by themselves, alone in a desolate apocalypse wouldn't wind up being together compared to Sonic and a woman who has absolutely nothing in common with him. That and the way in some games like TSR and I believe an upcoming story in the IDW comics, Silver and Blaze are paired up and they seem to be a popular ship within in the fanbase, but Elise might as well not exist. I dunno, I guess I just find it funny.

I find Sonic '06s plot so filled with holes and such bizarre ideas, I can't help but find it utterly fascinating. It's the kind of thing I would love to see a documentary or some kind of novelisation of, to see what the writer's true intentions about it were.

[DabigRG]

1 hour ago, silvereye27 said:

The even bigger plot hole of '06 is Mephilis' plan. If Iblis has to be released for him to be able to fuse with it so that they can become Solaris... why doesn't he do it immedietly in Silver's timeline? They never state why Iblis must be released through tears for the fusion to happen. It seems like it is just a fan thing to make that connection so that the Mephilis' entire plan doesn't immedietly not make sense.

 

Given that the first thing we see him do is head for the future, I think the unspoken implication was that he did try once he got his hands on the purple Chaos Emerald, but it didn't work. Perhaps due to the fact that Iblis needed to be in a "pure" state ala the actual flame and had instead being running around creating devastation as an immortal lava monster for 2000 years. 

1 hour ago, silvereye27 said:

 

And ofcourse there is the very weird way Elise dies too. The Egg Carrier just seems to spontaneously develop a fault and crash in the original timeline. The other fan theory I've seen is that Mephilis is the one responsible for it, but that is never implied and it is such a strange plot development, I have no idea why it happens either.

Then again, we are talking about Sonic ''06.

Yeah, that never gets a real explanation.

Mephiles(or the Monsters he apparently started bringing along from the future) doing something to it sounds like a decent explanation until you realize that he does resort to getting Elise to cry to properly fuse.

There's always the extra possibility that Sonic and Silver timetraveling about a minute after the crash threw things off, but that's not really something they bother exploring iirc.

1 hour ago, silvereye27 said:

 

I might as well throw one more question into the '06 pile: wouldn't Silver and Blaze make a far more logical love story than Sonic and Elise? Honestly the only reason I bring this up is because of the baffling trials Sonic and Silver have to go through in their respective episodes.

Sonic has a trial where he gets to pick between 2 chicks without any pressure whatsoever, while Silver has to fight 50 robots to save Blaze from the literal friendzone. I just find it funny how the game seems to insist that Sonic and Elise ARE IN LOVE while Silver and Blaze ARE JUST SUPER CLOSE FRIENDS but Silver is the one who has to prove his friendship. It seems like those specific trials exist just to remind the player about these relationships so that the way the story turns is meant to be more impactful with Sonic's death and resurrection and Blaze's sacrifice.

That is a thematic reason for why those missions probably exist, yes.

 

1 hour ago, silvereye27 said:

 

I guess I just find it funny in numerous ways due to how the idea of 2 people who seem to live by themselves, alone in a desolate apocalypse wouldn't wind up being together compared to Sonic and a woman who has absolutely nothing in common with him. That and the way in some games like TSR and I believe an upcoming story in the IDW comics, Silver and Blaze are paired up and they seem to be a popular ship within in the fanbase, but Elise might as well not exist. I dunno, I guess I just find it funny.

I'm still wondering why this character was even Blaze, never mind any [supposed] love story going on there.

But yeah, I have to wonder where the idea to do what is ultimately a romantic connection between Elise & Sonic came from and why they decided to go with it, however tangentally.

1 hour ago, silvereye27 said:

I find Sonic '06s plot so filled with holes and such bizarre ideas, I can't help but find it utterly fascinating. It's the kind of thing I would love to see a documentary or some kind of novelisation of, to see what the writer's true intentions about it were.

Ch'yeah.

[DabigRG]

<strike>There are apparently two hidden levels in Lost World outside of the Hidden World. What is the second one?</strike>

So the Casino level(s) are actually in Sky Road in Lost World 3DS. Any idea why the Wii U version didn't follow suit?

[DabigRG]

How popular is Blaze in Japan?

[Your Vest Friend]

She's really popular as long as it's in context of Silver also being present. 

[Kuzu]

25 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

She's really popular as long as it's in context of Silver also being present. 

Which I really hate because she stood fine as a character on her own without him. But the Hedgehogs are popular I guess...

[Your Vest Friend]

1 minute ago, Kuzu the Boloedge said:

Which I really hate because she stood fine as a character on her own without him. But the Hedgehogs are popular I guess...

It doesn't help that Japanese Sonic fans don't like Rush nearly as much as Sonic '06 (story-wise, I think actual gamewise their opinion on it is similar to the West). There's a reason why Mephiles of all characters got a playable slot in Runners of all characters, 

[DabigRG]

1 hour ago, VEDJ-F said:

She's really popular as long as it's in context of Silver also being present. 

Really now? That's interesting...

Which begs the counterpart question, while we're at it.

1 hour ago, VEDJ-F said:

It doesn't help that Japanese Sonic fans don't like Rush nearly as much as Sonic '06 (story-wise, I think actual gamewise their opinion on it is similar to the West). There's a reason why Mephiles of all characters got a playable slot in Runners of all characters, 

Eh, makes sense. If SomecallmeJohnny can be used as an example, Blaze caters more to Western "strong independent woman" expectations, not to mention how she was rather cold and shrewish initially.

[DabigRG]

Is there any logic to why who is found where in Sonic Advance 3?

[Multikaris]

Why did Sonic Lost World have so many organic enemies? 

[DabigRG]

7 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Why did Sonic Lost World have so many organic enemies? 

Because it takes place on the Lost Hex.

[NikoS]

About the Lost Hex, since it's described by Tails as a "land of illusions" or something along those lines (in the JP dub), can it be that some of it's locations and enemies are actually illusions? I know it'll probably never come back again, but now with the introduction of the phantom ruby this could lead to some interesting things, in both backstory/lore and for future games.

[Multikaris]

4 minutes ago, NikoS said:

About the Lost Hex, since it's described by Tails as a "land of illusions" or something along those lines (in the JP dub), can it be that some of it's locations and enemies are actually illusions? I know it'll probably never come back again, but now with the introduction of the phantom ruby this could lead to some interesting things, in both backstory/lore and for future games.

Would explain why two of the Desert Ruins levels aren’t a desert. Or why there are Wisps, in cages, on the Lost Hex. And perhaps why the sandworms made an unexplained cameo in Forces.

[DabigRG]

26 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Would explain why two of the Desert Ruins levels aren’t a desert. Or why there are Wisps, in cages, on the Lost Hex. And perhaps why the sandworms made an unexplained cameo in Forces.

Alright, calm down rabbit. 

I believe the illusion aspect refers more to the weirder things there, like Honeycomb Highway(?), Dessert Ruins, and hopefully all of Hidden World. Otherwise, the Zeti, the respective Acts, and by extension. most of the wildlife are clearly real.

 

35 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

And perhaps why the sandworms made an unexplained cameo in Forces.

I think that might be more evidence of the villains being real and/or earlier plans for the story, but don't quote me on that.