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1 hour ago, DabigRG said:

Alright, calm down rabbit. 

I believe the illusion aspect refers more to the weirder things there, like Honeycomb Highway(?), Dessert Ruins, and hopefully all of Hidden World. Otherwise, the Zeti, the respective Acts, and by extension. most of the wildlife are clearly real.

 

I think that might be more evidence of the villains being real and/or earlier plans for the story, but don't quote me on that.

Perhaps this illusion aspect is why Sonic ended up taking a detour through Silent Forest and Sky Road to Lava Mountain? Maybe the Phantom Ruby prototypes were mined there? Well, this still means there’s like 5 types of animals, though...

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20 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Perhaps this illusion aspect is why Sonic ended up taking a detour through Silent Forest and Sky Road to Lava Mountain? 

Fair point.  

Honestly, I have to wonder what sort of roots Sonic and Eggman's groups had been traversing offscreen.

22 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

 Maybe the Phantom Ruby prototypes were mined there? 

Mm...don't it.

As far as we're told, the prototypes were likely based off the original's readings taken in Casino Forest and were being duplicated underground at Imperial Tower. 

Not sure the Lost Hex would've been involved during that, especially since the six Zeti band likely would've been on him pretty quick. 

28 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Maybe the Phantom Ruby prototypes were mined there? Well, this still means there’s like 5 types of animals, though...

That we see anyway. 

There are the sheep, cacti, sandworms, piranha, moray eels, yoni, gators, owls, moai, and for some reason Boos, iirc. 

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3 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Fair point.  

Honestly, I have to wonder what sort of roots Sonic and Eggman's groups had been traversing offscreen.

Mm...don't it.

As far as we're told, the prototypes were likely based off the original's readings taken in Casino Forest and were being duplicated underground at Imperial Tower. 

Not sure the Lost Hex would've been involved during that, especially since the six Zeti band likely would've been on him pretty quick. 

That we see anyway. 

There are the sheep, cacti, sandworms, piranha, moray eels, yoni, gators, owls, moai, and for some reason Boos, iirc. 

As in, we have Mobians, Mobini, SA1 Small Animals, Hex creatures/SH Giant Frogs, and normal animals. And, well, the Zeti pulling a Ninja smoke out is taken by some fans that they faded away, and didn’t Zor and Zavok get baked in lava? Eggman could also get the Conch back, to at least repel them.

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Testing, testing, please don't be erased again

@Miragnarok

I typed out full replies two or three times and they keep getting deleted, so I'm just doing a brief overview because fuck trying again:As in, we have Mobians, Mobini, SA1 Small Animals, Hex creatures/SH Giant Frogs, and normal animals. And, well, the Zeti pulling a Ninja smoke out is taken by some fans that they faded away, and didn’t Zor and Zavok get baked in lava? Eggman could also get the Conch back, to at least repel them.

  • Oh, that's what you meant
  • Mobini and the SA1 Small Animals are probably the same thing
  • Not sure if Hex and Frog Forest Zone are connected, but thought food.
  • Admittedly didn't consider smoke bombs until recently.
  • Zeti are almost certainly still up there given numerous factors.
  • Zor and Zavok are cause for concern, but likely "fine."
  • True, since the Zeti might not care about getting it as long as their enemies don't find it.
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When they say Knuckles is the last of his kind, do they truly mean the last echidna period or just specifically of the Knuckles Clan?

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4 hours ago, DabigRG said:

When they say Knuckles is the last of his kind, do they truly mean the last echidna period or just specifically of the Knuckles Clan?

Given Sega’s current mandates, probably the last echidna period.

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3 hours ago, DabigRG said:

When they say Knuckles is the last of his kind, do they truly mean the last echidna period or just specifically of the Knuckles Clan?

I think before the penders shit, maybe they were gonna go with the latter, but now post that its probably the former.

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35 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

I think before the penders shit, maybe they were gonna go with the latter, but now post that its probably the former.

On that note, is him being the last echidna in Sonic Boom, a series where he has none of his past baggage, actually meant to be canon, or just a one-off joke? 

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1 minute ago, Miragnarok said:

On that note, is him being the last echidna in Sonic Boom, a series where he has none of his past baggage, canon, or just a one-off joke? 

Canon.

 

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Just now, DabigRG said:

Canon.

 

Is there any proof of this? 

 

Also, is “Robotnik” canon in Boom?

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Just now, Miragnarok said:

Is there any proof of this? 

 

Because it's cited as if it was common knowledge amongst his friends and is taken relatively seriously. Plus, Angel Island also exists in some unspecified form.

Also, isn't it also mentioned in another episode?

Just now, Miragnarok said:

 

Also, is “Robotnik” canon in Boom?

I don't think so.

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4 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

On that note, is him being the last echidna in Sonic Boom, a series where he has none of his past baggage, actually meant to be canon, or just a one-off joke? 

 

1 minute ago, DabigRG said:

Because it's cited as if it was common knowledge amongst his friends and is taken relatively seriously. Plus, Angel Island also exists in some unspecified form.

Also, isn't it also mentioned in another episode?

I don't think so.

I mean to be fair, how " canon " was the cartoon meant to be all in all? Like it largely had nothing to with what was going in those games if I recall and was just a fun weird thing. That said I agree with you.

One of Knuckles's and even more so Shadow's issues in that show was they had a lot of baggage from previous versions that didn't make sense. Primary Knuckles not understanding stuff and shadow's powers and his attitude. With out chaos emeralds... there's no master emerald and there's no real reason for knuckles to stay on that island to be away from people, which is why knuckles can be a bit gullible at times. You could read it as " he's just dumb " but I would argue that its a pretty flat read of his character ontop of " Why make a different version of a character anyway if you are just going to give him the same traits but with no explanation " I could go into shadow but I posted that on this site...somewhere. Point is, considering that this is a general problem with boom in general you are probably right its canon.

I guess these problems and questions could be alleviated if there were more games in the series.

But there aren't and there wont be. So uh guess it doesn't really matter I suppose

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10 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

 

I mean to be fair, how " canon " was the cartoon meant to be all in all? Like it largely had nothing to with what was going in those games if I recall and was just a fun weird thing. That said I agree with you.

One of Knuckles's and even more so Shadow's issues in that show was they had a lot of baggage from previous versions that didn't make sense. Primary Knuckles not understanding stuff and shadow's powers and his attitude. With out chaos emeralds... there's no master emerald and there's no real reason for knuckles to stay on that island to be away from people, which is why knuckles can be a bit gullible at times. You could read it as " he's just dumb " but I would argue that its a pretty flat read of his character ontop of " Why make a different version of a character anyway if you are just going to give him the same traits but with no explanation " I could go into shadow but I posted that on this site...somewhere. Point is, considering that this is a general problem with boom in general you are probably right its canon.

I guess these problems and questions could be alleviated if there were more games in the series.

But there aren't and there wont be. So uh guess it doesn't really matter I suppose

The Boom games(or at least the ones with Lyric) barely matter to the Show, which just did whatever it wanted with what it wanted.

Hence why Fred gets a different name, Salty is a bouncer, and Perci has an identical twin or more with more character and role(s) in that show than she does. Also, Fastidius isn't a snarky acrofatic who's running for mayor.

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6 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

The Boom games(or at least the ones with Lyric) barely matter to the Show, which just did whatever it wanted with what it wanted.

Hence why Fred gets a different name, Salty is a bouncer, and Perci has an identical twin or more with more character and role(s) in that show than she does. Also, Fastidius isn't a snarky acrofatic who's running for mayor.

Makes sense, because originally they were two different projects just merged into one, its why I questioned the " canoncity of it all "

Then again, in a cosmic sense what does that matter in a show that no longer exists so... interpret it however you want.

I just hope sticks comes back, she was aiight

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2 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

Makes sense, because originally they were two different projects just merged into one, its why I questioned the " canoncity of it all "

Then again, in a cosmic sense what does that matter in a show that no longer exists so... interpret it however you want.

Yep, which is likely why we got that weirdness I mentioned amongst others. 

2 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

 

I just hope sticks comes back, she was aiight

Oh yeah, Sticks was one of the best things about that show.

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9 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

The Boom games(or at least the ones with Lyric) barely matter to the Show, which just did whatever it wanted with what it wanted.

Hence why Fred gets a different name, Salty is a bouncer, and Perci has an identical twin or more with more character and role(s) in that show than she does. Also, Fastidius isn't a snarky acrofatic who's running for mayor.

D-Fekt’s also really the only aspect of F&I to return. None of the new locales show up again. That game didn’t really use show locales either. The only asset of Archie Boom that got used was MeBot, and then again it was totally redesigned. Also, how did the Echidnas vanish in Boom? 

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4 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

D-Fekt’s also really the only aspect of F&I to return.  None of the new locales show up again. That game didn’t really use show locales either.

There were only three full games, so yeah.

4 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

The only asset of Archie Boom that got used was MeBot, and then again it was totally redesigned.

MeBot?

But yeah, a little weird that Kyle never showed up.

4 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

 Also, how did the Echidnas vanish in Boom? 

Doesn't matter unless the show decides to go into it.

Otherwise, just take their word for it.

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Considering that pangolins like echidnas are toothless insectivores with sharp powerful claws for digging, what are the chances that if SEGA had made a pangolin character they just would have ended up being to Knuckles as Mighty is to Sonic; an armored instead of spiky version of the same character pretty much?

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37 minutes ago, Sonic Fan J said:

Considering that pangolins like echidnas are toothless insectivores with sharp powerful claws for digging, what are the chances that if SEGA had made a pangolin character they just would have ended up being to Knuckles as Mighty is to Sonic; an armored instead of spiky version of the same character pretty much?

Honestly, a pangolin character would have room to look pretty cool and distinct. I wouldn't mind if it was a scaly Knuckles with ears, though.

Though it'd be some shit if it ended up being blue or teal.

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17 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Honestly, a pangolin character would have room to look pretty cool and distinct.

They would look pretty cool huh
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18 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

I wouldn't mind if it was a scaly Knuckles with ears, though.

Though I do wonder what type of ears you'd give one

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19 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Though it'd be some shit if it ended up being blue or teal.

No doubt 😆

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On 1/9/2019 at 12:39 PM, Sonic Fan J said:

They would look pretty cool huh
 

 

Though I do wonder what type of ears you'd give one

 

No doubt 😆

Dang strait!

 

...Oh. It just occurred to me that Mighty does have ears. Nevermind then. 

 

Has any other villain( or character in general) come relatively close to getting the type of promotional attention that the Deadly Six did?

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From time to time I wonder how different the franchise would be if either

The stories in the Japanese manuals had been used globally
If the English language adaptions had taken off in Japan
If Sonic CD had been more successful than Sonic 2

or some combination of the above. Sure thinking about it is an exercise in futility, but knowing that doesn't stop my mind from wandering their regardless.

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So I've been gradually watching the Sonic-a-thon run of Sonic Battle: what's up with Cream's voice clips?

EDIT: Cream's story is odd.

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