Nintendo Exclusive for Next Three Sonic Games

[Tornado]

"Scandal rocks the industry as Nintendo was uncovered paying Capcom and Square to release games on competing systems!"

SEGA supported multi-consoles over the years, but they always got bigger profits from Nintendo consoles than all the other consoles together.

[SuperLink]

Honestly I think, from SEGA's point of view, it's a bizarre move. They're not in the best position financially, so I can't understand this unless Nintendo is taking care of a large part of finance.

 

My argument was simply that it's good news for the Wii U, and that it's an unfortunately necessary evil any system must go through to gain its place in the industry. I'm as surprised as anyone else that that company was one as financially unstable as SEGA.

[Kuzu]

Sonic is already billed along with Mario, Pokemon and Zelda on Nintendo Magazines anyway, may as well make it official.

[Tani Coyote]

The Wii U is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Developers feel they won't turn a profit, pull their games. Other developers see this and panic sell. It's no different than the stock market... and it ultimately makes that fear of loss a reality as before long practically everyone's cleared out.

 

Hopefully this and other exclusives will help inject some life into the Wii U. Nintendo has many cherished icons under its belt now... but the question is if that's enough to revitalise a struggling company.

 

I think the Wii U's prospects will improve by the holiday season, as its competitors will be less cutthroat in pricing and they'll likely have more games. It just looks bad right now is all.

[SuperLink]

In other news, SEGA are posting about this everywhere.

 

Are they proud of it, or are Nintendo forcing them to let the world know? Just figured it was worthy of note.

[MamboCat]

 I see SEGA made the right decision in slowly giving us the news that "Sonic now belongs to Nintendo".

 

But Sonic is still Sega's IP? There's no news of Nintendo buying Sonic himself, just the publishing for three games...

[Kuzu]

Out of all of this, why isn't Takashi Iizuka working for Nintendo then? He clearly isn't giving SEGA any USP with this decision. It's like Sonic being handcuffed to the Wii-U now. That's not how a free spirit works. 

 

You realize this was a SEGA decision and not a Sonic team one right?

[Crash]

Wait, Sega of Europe are only making PC releases.

 

OH MY GOD, WHAT THE FUCK, SEGA!

[Patticus]

Sonic's primary audience also happens to be Nintendo's, and Sonic games have always done well on Nintendo platforms, so Sonic being on the Wii U just makes good sense. It might not make sense to you, but are you really their primary audience?

 

Plus, games like these are necessary to make the Wii U worthy of purchase. Without them, "Wii U has no games" etc, so don't go saying this is a bad decision when games like these have to happen to make it worth buying. If this was multi-platform, many of you'd be saying "Why get it on Nintendo when you can get it on Sony?" etc.

[t0ms0nic]

In other news, SEGA are posting about this everywhere.

 

Are they proud of it, or are Nintendo forcing them to let the world know? Just figured it was worthy of note.

 

You have to remember that Nintendo always has a ton of coverage for whatever they do, so that would obviously extend to this partnership program they have going on. SEGA's having to step up their own coverage to match blow-for-blow with Nintendo's regular ones... plus, SEGA always goes all-out like this when it comes to the next big Sonic title.

 

so sonic wasn't handcuffed to the megadrive/genesis??

[Jango]

But Sonic is still Sega's IP? There's no news of Nintendo buying Sonic himself, just the publishing for three games...

 

I believe that already happened(or will eventually happen), we just don't know yet. These new 3 exclusive games will most likely sell a lot, after this, the next step to SEGA is announce that they will support Nintendo only.

 

 

 

I don't get it mate.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Jango

[Tornado]

Sonic's primary audience also happens to be Nintendo's, and Sonic games have always done well on Nintendo platforms, so Sonic being on the Wii U just makes good sense. It might not make sense to you, but are you really their primary audience?

Sonic games being on the Wii U makes sense. Sonic games exclusively being on the Wii U may very well not; with the amount of sense varying based on how much Nintendo is paying for the development.

[Patticus]

Given that these games seem to be second party projects now, would that mean that Nintendo might be able to, to a limited degree, oversee their production, and might sprinkle some of its magic upon them?

[Kuzu]

Sonic's primary audience also happens to be Nintendo's, and Sonic games have always done well on Nintendo platforms, so Sonic being on the Wii U just makes good sense. It might not make sense to you, but are you really their primary audience?

 

Plus, games like these are necessary to make the Wii U worthy of purchase. Without them, "Wii U has no games" etc, so don't go saying this is a bad decision when games like these have to happen to make it worth buying. If this was multi-platform, many of you'd be saying "Why get it on Nintendo when you can get it on Sony?" etc.

 

 

I don't this attitude; people complain that Wii U has no games, Wii U gets an exclusive and people complain how Sega are foolish for doing it? What?

[SuperLink]

Given that these games seem to be second party projects now, would that mean that Nintendo might be able to oversee their production, and might sprinkle some of its magic upon them?

That's a hope.

 

SEGA seem obsessed with Sonic's brand image right now, if they want the game to be really quality they maybe they'd actively seek another developer's help.

 

A good reputation is one thing the franchise desperately needs to get back.

[Tornado]

I don't this attitude; people complain that Wii U has no games, Wii U gets an exclusive and people complain how Sega are foolish for doing it? What?

If I have to explain it one more time...

What is in Nintendo's best interests are not necessarily what are in Sega's or the Sonic franchises' best interests. Which is why it is a gamble on Sega's part but not on Nintendo's.

[Kuzu]

If I have to explain it one more time...

What is in Nintendo's best interests are not necessarily what are in Sega's or the Sonic franchises' best interests. Which is why it is a gamble on Sega's part but not on Nintendo's.

 

Well does it depend on how much Nintendo supports these games then?

[Tani Coyote]

so sonic wasn't handcuffed to the megadrive/genesis??

 

Ouch!

 

Yeah, at the end of the day it makes the most sense. They do best on Nintendo, fit with Nintendo's cast of characters more, and Nintendo/SEGA fans have been cross-pollinating with each other ever since the wall between the companies crumbled back in 2003. Nintendo may not be buying SEGA but it looks like they're going to be practically one company for the time being for stuff like this.

 

We'll see if the partnership is extended, but I'm betting it will. The higher end graphics of Sony and Microsoft are good and all, but let's face it, Sonic doesn't need to be hyperrealistic to be fun; graphics capabilities are used solely for scenery porn, anyway.

 

I think the Wii U will recover soon enough. They've got strong brands, they just haven't really put many of them out yet. Let's not be too hasty to write the Wii U off...

 

...now. If it doesn't recover by Holiday 2013, then yeah we might have reason to panic a bit.

 

Let's also look at the perks of a partnership here. Nintendo also has a massive merchandise base... closer ties between the two means Nintendo might help out there.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

Hm, one thing I'm noticing is there are lots of people saying "no number of franchises or exclusives can make me buy a Wii U"

 

So.. what can make you buy a Wii U? Just curious. A console can't become a thing people want if it doesn't have games other systems don't have, that's elementary. It's just as ridiculous as someone saying "I'm not buying a PS4 no matter how many different franchises it gets".

 

A console is its games, at the end of the day.

Gosh, the game's only just been revealed and we've had a full on revival of 6th and 7th gen console wars.

 

If this is one Sonic game that is exclusive (and Olympics) then fine I won't be annoyed. Because sure, Wii U needs an exclusive. But there's another one. And I don't know if Lost World is a main Sonic title like Colors and Unleashed but if it is and the unannounced one is, that is two main Sonic games that other platforms won't have and other platforms won't see daylight of Sonic until late 2015.

 

It just annoys me inside that I will not able to play this game and the other game until Christmas next year.

[Tornado]

Well does it depend on how much Nintendo supports these games then?

If Nintendo paid for the development of this game (which is probably what is happening since they are publishing it, but I still doubt it was anything at all like Bayonetta 2 where it just wouldn't exist if Nintendo didn't step in), Sega's risks are mitigated by a fair bit.

If Nintendo did not pay for the development of the game, and this is just an attempt to cut costs by cutting the amount of systems that Sega releases to to only the ones where Sonic sells "the best," then this could bite them in the ass in an absolutely massive way.

But in either situation Nintendo wins, so saying it isn't a stupid move for Sega to do because the Wii U (and therefore Nintendo) benefits doesn't mean anything.

I don't get it mate.

You repeated the exact sentiment that I just pointed out is nothing more than a "commonly held" fact rather than actually being true.

[SuperLink]

Let it be known that I totally understand the annoyance of not getting to play the game if you don't have the money for a Wii U or anything :c it was the same for me when I didn't get to play the Adventure series or Sonic R as a kid.

 

I'm just against the notion of not wanting a Wii U because it's a Wii U.

 

Well does it depend on how much Nintendo supports these games then?

For SEGA's sake, I hope Nintendo do support it.

 

For the Wii U's sake, they'd be stupid to not market it like crazy. I really hope Nintendo throw SEGA a bone here too :/ SEGA don't always seem like they even have the money for big-scale marketing.

[Remy]

Given that these games seem to be second party projects now, would that mean that Nintendo might be able to, to a limited degree, oversee their production, and might sprinkle some of its magic upon them?

Well didn't colors have an injection of Nintendo special sauce? considering the whole partnership thing I wouldn't be surprised if they sent some staff over to help with this as well.

[Tani Coyote]

But in either situation Nintendo wins.

 

Especially given that Nintendo's shown interest in buying SEGA before. If SEGA crumbled hard enough from bad sales, old Papa Nintendo could always give them a big bailout in exchange for... some favors.

 

Which is probably what this counts as given SEGA doesn't do quite as well as its brother, Sammy.

 

Now, whether or not Sammy's CEO would be willing to yield SEGA to Nintendo, I do not know. Though if the company's struggling I see no reason any sound businessmen would not get rid of it.

 

Whereas if SEGA sells well Nintendo collects a fat profit on it surely.

 

Xanatos Gambits are always fun to set up.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[Badnik Mechanic]

How deep exactly does this partnership go.

 

We're all talking about Sonic. But everybody is ignoring how Yakuza HD a series which does astonishingly well in Japan and considering how it gets no advertising at all doesn't do too badly in the west is now a Wii-U exclusive.

 

Where is the sense in that one? Why on earth is that one a Wii-U exclusive worldwide when at the very least it should be on the Japanese PSN since it'll sell bucket loads.

[Tani Coyote]

How deep exactly does this partnership go.

 

We're all talking about Sonic. But everybody is ignoring how Yakuza HD a series which does astonishingly well in Japan and considering how it gets no advertising at all doesn't do too badly in the west is now a Wii-U exclusive.

 

Where is the sense in that one? Why on earth is that one a Wii-U exclusive worldwide when at the very least it should be on the Japanese PSN since it'll sell bucket loads.

 

I'm getting the feeling there was some serious backroom dealing between the two. Sonic makes sense, but the others... are questionable.

 

Nintendo must have given them a pretty sweat deal, then demanded all SEGA properties be Nintendo-exclusive in exchange. I mean, it's all politics at the end of the day, and it's no different than a big country giving a small country a large sum of cash in exchange for some "favors."