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Honestly, people bringing up ZS Samus so much made me think a bit on it. (as pulled from my tumblr post..)

I don’t have a problem with Samus being the way she is too much, or even the heels part, but I guess it just kinda sucks that she suddenly looks like a barbie doll in proportions. Like, she can have feminine traits and curve to her without looking ridiculous. She’s suddenly in mascara making really exaggerated stretch and twisty poses that emphasize da butt and bobbys.
 
Now I know she’s supposed to be more flexible outside of the suit, and there’s nothing wrong with Samus or any female character being that way, but you imagine all that and the heels would be suited for a character like Bayonetta, where she embraces and thrives off her sultry-based physique and movements. But Samus, (even while occasionally being given fanservice clothing by silly Nintendo employees), tended to look relatively normal by human body standards, and move in a way that didn’t try to accentuate her femininity in an overexaggerated manner.
 
That was sort of the appeal to her, I thought. You can’t tell if she’s male or female until you got her out of the armor, and even then while she was obviously female her body language wasn’t stereotypically sexualized.
 
And like said, it’s not like saying her being this way is wrong because it’s unacceptable, but because it just doesn’t seem to fit the character it’s given to. Like said, she seems to move and have proportions very similar to Bayonetta in this game, and while for Bayonetta it’s an endearing quirk and unique trait to her, it’s just came out of left field for Samus after she’s been treated in such a different way before.
 
Idk. It doesn’t bother me to any big extent, but it does make me wonder why she was changed this way. Maybe Other M has a lot to do with that problem, since that seems to be where they’re picking heavily from this time.

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> ZSS Smash 4 design

> downgrade

 

Have you seen her Brawl design? Just awful. Samus actually looks like a proper human being here, face-wise. And the rocket boots are an ingenious idea, and actually makes the high heels springy and practical, like Chell's Long Fall Boots from Portal.

 

Smash 4's ZSS is one of the last character's I'd ever describe as looking like a "proper human being". She looks like a Barbie. 

 

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I don't see how those heels look efficient at all, either. They'd have to be flatter lest she break her ankles falling from any sort of distance. As they are they're way too thin and elevated. Boots would not only have been more fitting for the character, but also look much more practical. They should have given her combat boots or something.

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Seems to me that the Smash Bros. team wanted to be faithful to the most recent design but thought like most of us that the high heels are idiotic, and the jet heels are their compromise.

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Seems to me that the Smash Bros. team wanted to be faithful to the most recent design but thought like most of us that the high heels are idiotic, and the jet heels are their compromise.

 

So to compromise for idiotic high heels they made them even more ridiculous...?

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I seriously barely see a difference between the two designs between SSB4 and SSBB. They look pratically identical to me. And considering the game is generally zoomed out, we'll barely notice anyways.

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Bulky boots do ruin the slim look of the zero suit though.  Every attempt I've seen to give her boots makes her design really bottom heavy.  The heels, despite their technical impracticality, are so bare-bones in design they just sort of have a "clipped on" look that doesn't affect her overall silhouette or lose the athletic aesthetic.

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Yeah, I suppose you're right. Like said, I don't particularly have a problem with it as much as I just kind of questioned the decision.

 

As long as Samus is her own different thing outside of Smash, I'm fine. Link and others aren't exactly representative of future installments either, anyways.

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The heels are clearly spring-loaded, giving her extra power in her legs, never mind the fucking rockets that are also attached. Also ZSS' moveset is based almost entirely around kicks. Have you ever been kicked by a girl wearing heels? Because it fucking hurts.

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The heels are clearly spring-loaded, giving her extra power in her legs, never mind the fucking rockets that are also attached. Also ZSS' moveset is based almost entirely around kicks. Have you ever been kicked by a girl wearing heels? Because it fucking hurts.

 

The heels are clearly quite thin and long, making them very unstable for quick movements and long jumps, never mind falling from fifty feet in the air like Smash characters do every ten seconds. Have you ever broken your ankle from falling on your foot wrong? Because it fucking hurts.

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I think you're forgetting something critically important here.

This is a video game.

Fun is the primary objective, not realism. If we're going to get all technical about the physical effect heels would have on a fight, let's also think about how the characters can breathe in space, and not turn into charcoal when in contact with fire. Hm?

Rocket heels are only as ridiculous as everything else the Smash series has offered.

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I think you're forgetting something critically important here.

This is a video game.

Fun is the primary objective, not realism. If we're going to get all technical about the physical effect heels would have on a fight, let's also think about how the characters can breathe in space, and not turn into charcoal when in contact with fire. Hm?

Rocket heels are only as ridiculous as everything else the Smash series has offered.

 

Would the game have been less fun if her they had given her shoes that didn't look blatantly stupid? 

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Would the game have been less fun if her they had given her shoes that didn't look blatantly stupid?

'Look stupid'? That's your opinion. Frankly, I disagree. I like the clipped on look, and the complementary yellow glow.

And of course, that's just my opinion.

Edit:

And might I add- Would the game's fun be affected for you if the boots changed? This goes both ways.

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'Look stupid'? That's your opinion. Frankly, I disagree. I like the clipped on look, and the complementary yellow glow.

And of course, that's just my opinion.

 

Lovely. As far as I recall there wasn't a time at which I claimed my opinions were objective fact. 

 

I don't, however, see how my complaints are somehow invalidated by the fact that this is a video game. You're of course free to disagree, but I don't see how breathing in space is at all relevant to the fact that anyone with eyes can see the intent they had when changing Samus' design.

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While we're at it, let's talk about how pointy shoes wouldn't work for someone who runs an average of 700 mph

 

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...noodle-limbs and mono-eyes notwithstanding.

 

What's practical isn't always what's used. Samus' boots are hardly a problem in the bigger picture.

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The primary difference there is that Sonic's design was never changed to be more unrealistic, nor did the series ever have a more grounded look to it like Metroid did.

 

But whatever, I don't care enough about this to argue about it for multiple pages. It's clear that Samus has been very blatantly sexualized, and that's not something I care for. Obviously didn't start with Smash 4, but this is the worst it's ever been.

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Honestly, I'm not seeing it. The whole 'over sexualised' thing, I mean. To me, she looks more-or-less the same as she always has, except with Other M's zero suit.

...I dunno, maybe she's a little less skinny than she was in Brawl too?

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I don't think the high-heel boots are that much of an oddity.

 

But whatever. This thread is about Smash Bros, not Samus' sexualization.

She was also raised by bird people and infused with their blood, for all we know she moults and smells like a bird, and added heels cause she wanted a rear foot talon

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I think you're forgetting something critically important here.

This is a video game.

Comrade, video game or not, people do have genuine concerns here, concerns that wouldn't change much in film, books, or television. It's not enough to say that a game is merely entertainment, and thus that these things aren't problems. The more people defend the backwards nature of a new medium, the longer it stays backwards; just look at poor comic books. Video games have proven themselves capable of telling amazing stories and crafting interesting experiences; if the medium is to grow any further, we must take a closer look at what we consider integral to the medium. And I, for one, don't believe such nonsense to have any permanent place in the heart of the video game, this thing I've come to love.

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I honestly don't see a huge difference between how samus looks now and how she looked in the other smash bros and metroid games. You know, aside from the heels, which were probably intended to be more of a style thing than anything else. Smash Bros has always gone for overexaggerated and stylized depictions of their characters over practical ones. 

 

I've seen a few people say it looks like she's wearing some kind of makeup, and I initially thought the same thing, but I noticed that Link has a similar effect on HIS eyes. It's probably just an effect to make them look more intimidating. Or Link is wearing makeup. 

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I honestly don't see a huge difference between how samus looks now and how she looked in the other smash bros and metroid games. You know, aside from the heels, which were probably intended to be more of a style thing than anything else. Smash Bros has always gone for overexaggerated and stylized depictions of their characters over practical ones. 

 

I've seen a few people say it looks like she's wearing some kind of makeup, and I initially thought the same thing, but I noticed that Link has a similar effect on HIS eyes. It's probably just an effect to make them look more intimidating. Or Link is wearing makeup. 

 

So that's why people keep calling him Zelda!

 

edited the delivery of the joke there hehe

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for that matter, Samus is barely human at all, she has so much Chozo, metroid, and X DNA in her, then throw in some Phazon corruption, its surprising she hasnt started growing feathers or become translucent by now, heels should be the least of our worries, and in hindsight the old Nintendo power of her with purple hair might eventualy become accurate XD

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